i get this sometimes. and i have to go into the properties and the shortcut will be there but will not work until i put it back to none, click on ok to save it and re set it back to control alt j again. then it will start working again.

-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost.  Doublecheck in
properties that it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter.  This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay.  sometimes you get an error message saying that only
an administrator can make this change.  Okay the message, then you
can okay the change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to
be sure it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David

On Jul 17, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:



I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.

 

I can't remember the name.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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I have used Zoom on many occasions on a laptop without a camera so no you do not need one. The participants hear you but there is no view obviously of you just an icon with your name.

In fact for many Zoom meetings   you do not even need a computer or smart phone being able to access them with a normal landline phone.

About 50% of those attending my NFB meetings access Zoom in this way.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I don’t have one on my computer either.

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

Sherri

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

Cheers, Jon

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open
JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open
NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and
she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the
problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or
something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David

With Microsoft 365, and probably with stand-alone Word versions for a while, opening in PDF is a free feature.  I used to use the SendTo menu to send documents to Word, now I’ve just made it the default.

I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.

I can't remember the name.

Justin

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss

I don’t have one on my computer either.

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

Sherri

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

Cheers, Jon

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

Sherri

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

Cheers, Jon

So would that mean I would have to purchase a webcamera?



Rick Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view

In the Zoom book from Carol Center it gives the keystrokes alt+f2,
and to switch to speaker view is alt+f1. You can also tab to these
settings, a third one being full screen. the book points out that if
video is turned off, so are gallery view and speaker view.
At 03:47 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:

I tried that too, but it didn't work.



Rick Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom

I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.
At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:

Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?



Rick Miller

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom

Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have
to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow
up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix
it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be
put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do
this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab
around until you find the names of participants and press enter on
the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to
send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom

Dear Listers:

I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join
a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a
few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a
meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when
I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever
I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says,
"Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then
the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to
that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find
Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it
just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So
what does this mean?



Rick Miller

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

Cheers, Jon

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

Cheers, Jon

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On Jul 13, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Hi Teresa,

 

Sometimes it requires more than 1 or 2 attempts:

Use the keystroke, CTRL, INSERT, + NUMPAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press,
CTRL, INSERT + NUMPAD SLASH

You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the item press,

CTRL, INSERT + NUMPAD SLASH

again, and the item will be moved to the position of the active cursor.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.

----- Original Message -----

From: Teresa

To: JFW

Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 6:55 AM

Subject: drag and drop with Jaws

Good morning list: I have jaws 2020 and I am running windows 10. Is it possible to drag and drop with Jaws? If yes, how would I do that? Thanks in advance. Teresa

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On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@...> wrote:

I'm a fan of opening them in Word by default, but Chrome is good
also. I'm not sure on what basis to choose one over the other.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi,

The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to
select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.

Bill White
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its
own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to
another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to
bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried.
That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail
to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around
it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff
up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page
word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do?

Rahul