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moderated Re: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Bill White
 

Hi, Marianne. You cannot read any BARD books on your computer, because they are protected by an authorization key. That's why so many Victor Reader Streams, Victor Treks and other talking book players are sold. BARD doesn't want books read on the computer, for fear that they could be copied with digital recording software, and distributed as unprotected books, which would be illegal under copyright law.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: DAISY for computer that works with BARD

 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated DAISY for computer that works with BARD

Marianne Denning
 

What software can I download onto my Windows 10 computer running the latest version of JAWS that will work with BARD?


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

JM Casey
 

I've never had JAWS provided at an interview. However, if testing of some kind is needed, I've have been successful in getting nVDA installed on a single, test computer for this purpose. Narrator may also work for some cases. Mileage will certainly vary based on where you're aiming to work (I imagine big government orgs and maybe some companies will possibly already have JAWS licenses), but it's kind of like when you are applying for a home rental (in my possibly narrow experience anyway) -- at this point they're not an employer yet, so they really are not bound to extend anything to you. I would bring the laptop, and keep it in your bag, but take it out if it's necessary to take notes. It's likely they wil want any sort of testing to be doen on one of their own machines, but maybe that depends on what's needed. Just be open and project assurredness that you are the man for the job.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: June 28, 2021 06:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Michael Walker
 

Hi Rod,


Your situation sounds similar to mine. At my previous job which was also my first to have to deal with interviewing as a programmer analyst, I did not disclose my disability on the application, before, or during the interview. The interview was just me answering questions about the job. I only disclosed that I was blind after accepting the job offer, so I could get permission to install JAWS on the company laptop. I wanted to keep everything as job relevant as possible.


Mike

On 6/29/2021 3:54 PM, Rod wrote:
I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions.  They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me.  I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike
































moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Rod
 

I am a musician. I do not go into interviews feeling that I need to talk about this. However, when conversations naturally lead to that as being relevant, I share that background.

I do the same thing with my visual impairment. you need to contextualize how and when you address it. After a few interviews under your belt, you will begin to identify the appropriate spot to get it out of the way and make your interviewer comfortable.

I have been in interview situations where my visual impairment was frankly irrelevant. It never came up as an issue because I was referencing my accomplishments in previous positions while responding to questions.








Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

I do focus on my qualifications. I am also just trying to be as prepared as possible. It is helpful to hear others’ perspectives on this, for that reason. At my last company, I was a programmer analyst. They did a phone interview, and I was hired. Therefore, other formats will be new to me. For others who asked, I will likely apply for jobs like programming and database positions.

Best regards,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike:

I understand your concerns but I would advise you to focus on your qualifications for the job irrespective of your blindness. You cannot control how anyone will act once they find out that you are blind. Go in there with the attitude that you are the best candidate for the role. if that is in fact the case, your blindness will not matter. this may be difficult for you to pull off at the beginning but this will help you with your career down the road.

It is self-defeating to spend precious time anticipating what others reaction will be about you while you could have been preparing to impress them at the interview with your knowledge, skills, and abilities.





Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike

























moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Rod
 

Excellent clarification, Justin. Indeed, if all that happens is you having to answer questions, you do not want to prematurely start talking about accommodations.

Prepare to use all surprises to your advantage. If they ask you: "was it difficult to find our office." Use that as an invitation to educate by referring to capturing the train, the fact that you allotted sufficient time to ensure that you got there on time, etc..

you are interviewing. Every interaction from the time you enter the building is part of the interview, use it to your advantage.


Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 12:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Be careful about asking about accommodations in an interview if all that is
required is that you answer questions.
You only get accommodations if necessary during the interview process, or
when you get the job.

Thanks,

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,

What kind of job are you applying for? If you will have to take a test at
the time of the interview then ask them about accommodations in advance.
However, if the interview is just that, asking and answering questions, then
I would ask about accommodations during the interview.

All of my work history was with the Federal government and they always had
accommodations available.

Good luck with the interview.

Lori Lynn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 5:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or
did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently
only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I
cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared.
Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

Monica S
 

Hi, I have a question about Outlook on my iPhone.  Since I installed it, it is giving me notifications about meetings that were 3 years ago but it says something like ‘Meeting in 15 minutes.”  Since I am new to using outlook calendar, is there a way to remove these events so I don’t hear them again since I no longer participate in these meetings.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.

 

Monica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I also have Outlook on my iPhone, and I get the alerts 15 minutes before meetings as well.  They also pop up on my computer, but I mostly find the phone reminders helpful.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I’m not aware of the option to have an email sent to you and cannot find such a setting.  Are you using the reminder pop-ups?  Under Options, then advanced, you can have a Reminder window appear and also set whether that is always on top. I have both of these options checked   Ten minutes before my appointment, the specific alarm sounds and the reminder window pops up in the upper left of my screen.  True, if you aren’t at your computer when the alarm goes off, it’s possible to miss the alarm.  The reminder window is in the alt tab list and JAWS window list, so you’ll notice it if you are switching between programs. If you are in Outlook when you walk away, I think you can hit insert T when you return to see if focus has gone to a Reminder, assuming that you have the always keep on top option set. Frankly, this is a key reason I have my mail and calendar linked to my phone.  I love getting the reminders on my phone in case I’ve walked away from my laptop. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

I’m sorry, my explanation is not accurate enough. I really mean meeting reminder events from the calendar. I used to be able to have an email sent 10 minutes before a meeting and that no longer happens. The was an Office365 update that Oracle sent out and I thought a setting might have changed but alas, I cannot find anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

All –

I’ve been trying to figure out how to get email reminders in Outlook and I cannot. I can get a reminder, if I remember to alt tab until I find it but I really need emails reminders, can anyone help?



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moderated Re: word problem

Juan Hernandez
 

Wow! I didn’t know about any of those settings.  Thanks so much.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: word problem

 

Hi, Juan. Make sure zoom is set to 100%, make sure that, in the View Menu, Side by Side is unchecked, and make sure it is set to single page viewing, not multiple pages. This should allow page by page viewing while in Print View.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: word problem

 

Hi All,

 

So I have a problem.  When I get documents to read them in word, I move through the document, it’ll read page1, then I’ll down arrow, and be on page 3, and so forth.  So it skips the ven pages.  Sometimes I want to read it in print view, but al ways get into this page skipping issue.  And another issue related to this as I alt tab away from the doc I often come back and it’ll be back skipping pages, so I have to go again into draft mode.

 

When I go into draft mode, it seems to go away, but is there away to stop this functionality?

 

I hope this makes sense.

 

Best,


moderated Re: question about Jaws at job interview

G. Gray
 

school teacher....history/typing/economics


Listening for the Shout!,
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18


George

On 6/29/2021 8:29 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
Hi George,

What job did you interview for?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 29, 2021, at 5:20 AM, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

A few thoughts about this subject which may or may not help. First off I interviewed for a job back in the dinosaur age...1971. We didn't have laptops then, but I did have a small micro cassette recorder. I had it in my shirt pocket and it was ready to go when needed. That was a help in taking notes during the interview.


2. I did not tell the interviewer that I was blind before the interview. I chose to disarm him/her at the interview. After greetings were exchanged...I explained that I had lived with blindness for several years and knew how to deal with problems and obstacles. I told him/her that I wanted them to feel comfortable with me during the interview and that they could feel free to ask me anything! That seemed to lift barriers.


I personally feel that an interviewer subconsciously thinks "if I were blind...how would I do this task?" Since they have no familiarity with it, they conclude...it can't be done...which is why I tried to disarm them at the outset.


Anyway I did get the job, but I did go through many interviews before getting it!!!


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moderated Re: word problem

Rick Mladek
 

Hit alt + w then e. All pages will be found and read...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: word problem

 

Hi All,

 

So I have a problem.  When I get documents to read them in word, I move through the document, it’ll read page1, then I’ll down arrow, and be on page 3, and so forth.  So it skips the ven pages.  Sometimes I want to read it in print view, but al ways get into this page skipping issue.  And another issue related to this as I alt tab away from the doc I often come back and it’ll be back skipping pages, so I have to go again into draft mode.

 

When I go into draft mode, it seems to go away, but is there away to stop this functionality?

 

I hope this makes sense.

 

Best,


moderated Re: word problem

Bill White
 

Hi, Juan. Make sure zoom is set to 100%, make sure that, in the View Menu, Side by Side is unchecked, and make sure it is set to single page viewing, not multiple pages. This should allow page by page viewing while in Print View.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 9:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: word problem

 

Hi All,

 

So I have a problem.  When I get documents to read them in word, I move through the document, it’ll read page1, then I’ll down arrow, and be on page 3, and so forth.  So it skips the ven pages.  Sometimes I want to read it in print view, but al ways get into this page skipping issue.  And another issue related to this as I alt tab away from the doc I often come back and it’ll be back skipping pages, so I have to go again into draft mode.

 

When I go into draft mode, it seems to go away, but is there away to stop this functionality?

 

I hope this makes sense.

 

Best,


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

 

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 07:33 PM, Rod wrote:
Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.
-
I am not saying one is, or is not, required to bring any specific thing to an interview.  That being said, whatever it is that you would typically use as your at-home note-taking method is something you should have.  There's nothing wrong with taking notes during an interview.

And, getting away from the legalistic side of things, you have to realize that many employers have no idea what reasonable accommodations are (regardless of the specific disability involved) because they've never had to provide them in the past.  And even those that do know about screen readers, braille displays, and the like are very unlikely to have same available to you during an interview process unless some formal on-computer exercise is a part of their process, and it seldom is.

There is the distinct possibility that you can impress them, greatly, with your own impromptu demonstration of your own technology and using it for tasks routine to the setting in which your seeking employment.  Many individuals have never, ever seen or heard a screen reader or encountered someone using one.  And that's not due to malice, but because those who do use this technology are a small, very small, minority of the world as a whole.  It's unrealistic to expect that your average Joe or Jane "on the street, or in the office" will have even the slightest exposure to assistive technologies.

And none of the above is saying or suggesting you must, or should, feel pressured to put on the proverbial "dog and pony show."  If you don't think that anything specifically related to technology or the use of same will come up as part of an interview then leaving everything at home is fine.  But if you suspect is might, being able to put on your own display to impress them certainly is not going to hurt.

Most sighted people are completely ignorant about what individuals who are blind are capable of.  And that's because they don't know any, and it's very easy to go through life not knowing anyone who's blind beyond the very infrequent casual encounter.  Strutting your stuff in an interview is a part of what's expected, along with tooting your own horn.  It's not a time for modesty, but for showing what you've got that the employer wants.
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moderated word problem

Juan Hernandez
 

Hi All,

 

So I have a problem.  When I get documents to read them in word, I move through the document, it’ll read page1, then I’ll down arrow, and be on page 3, and so forth.  So it skips the ven pages.  Sometimes I want to read it in print view, but al ways get into this page skipping issue.  And another issue related to this as I alt tab away from the doc I often come back and it’ll be back skipping pages, so I have to go again into draft mode.

 

When I go into draft mode, it seems to go away, but is there away to stop this functionality?

 

I hope this makes sense.

 

Best,


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Juan Hernandez
 

They are required, but most of the time they will find reasons not to bring you in if you become troublesome. That is just my experience.

It is the sad state of the world . ☹

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rod
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 4:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Juan Hernandez
 

HI Michael,

I always take a laptop to any in-person interview. I try to make things as easy for myself and the company I am interviewing with. I feel like it shows a good sense of responsibility and preparedness, and often times like 95% of the time they will ask how do you do your work, and its cool to show the screen reader and braille display if you use one. That’s my two cents, I am sure others will disagree with me. But that is how I've found success.

Best and good luck!

Juan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

 

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:52 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND wrote:
The biggest thing that helped me once I had some experience was providing references of people who I had previously worked with.
-
That has been a major help as one builds one's career over the years, but not so much anymore, at least if those people are still employed by the employer(s) you've left.

There have been a number of lawsuits, some of which the person who asked for a reference have won, which arose after that reference was not as "glowing" as they had anticipated and they felt it cost them the job they were trying to get (and that's even after having left the employer where the person giving reference works).

Many companies will not allow any reference of any sort to be given these days.  The only thing they'll allow is for HR to state that you were employed there and the dates of said employment.  Of course, some who give references will still do so as "a private individual" but they have to watch out in regard to what their employer allows or do it on the QT.
 
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           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi Mike,

I had a few programmer/analyst jobs before becoming a DBA. My first DBA job was at a place where I had been a programmer, so they already knew me. I have been a DBA now for more years than I care to count. Generally, I feel more comfortable telling the interviewer up front that I am blind, but I have done it both ways. During phone interviews, I have found that it is not always easy to work that into the conversation.

I have been working remotely in my current job for over 15 years now, and many people I work with have come to know that I am blind, but I haven't made a point of saying it unless I feel there is
A need for someone to know.

I guess the bottom line for me is that what I do depends on the situation. I have worked for some wonderful people, and I have also been interviewed by some that I knew wouldn't hire me as soon as the interview started.

The biggest thing that helped me once I had some experience was providing references of people who I had previously worked with.

Pam

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Pam,

This is very helpful. How did your employer for the database administrator position react, when you told them you were blind? How do you know when you should disclose your blindness? What other jobs did you have before that position?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com> wrote:

Mike,

It was for a database administrator job, so they asked a lot of technical questions. They had already done a preliminary interview by phone, and flew me out to where they were located, so I had told them I was blind. We had a good discussion about how I was able to do my work, but I did not take a laptop with me. I actually am not sure what I would have shown them, since I would not have had access to their systems at that point. They also contacted a few references which I provided that were previous employers.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 7:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi Rod,

Technical interviews may require coding exercises. I am not sure how people who can see do those. At my prior programming job, it was just a phone interview.

Pam, what did they do at your in-person interview?

Thank you,
Mike

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Rod <rodalcidonis@gmail.com> wrote:

Why would you need to bring a laptop to the interview?

Employers are required to provide reasonable accommodations at all stages in the employment process.

Do you have specific concerns?

Rod,



Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with
JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I
currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am
assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I
should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike


















moderated Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

Van Lant, Robin
 

Alt V M will bring up the same reminder window that appears when a reminder goes off.  Focus should be in the list of reminders. Tab to the Dismiss All button to clear them. 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 2:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

Is there a way of accessing the reminders screen in Outlook on the computer? It keeps reminding me about events that have already taken place but I can’t find a way of deleting the event when using the PC.

Alison

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: 28 June 2021 23:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I’ve not set the reminder window on top. I did assign a totally different sound so I’ll at least really be sure of the sound. On the phone is true enough.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

I’m not aware of the option to have an email sent to you and cannot find such a setting.  Are you using the reminder pop-ups?  Under Options, then advanced, you can have a Reminder window appear and also set whether that is always on top. I have both of these options checked   Ten minutes before my appointment, the specific alarm sounds and the reminder window pops up in the upper left of my screen.  True, if you aren’t at your computer when the alarm goes off, it’s possible to miss the alarm.  The reminder window is in the alt tab list and JAWS window list, so you’ll notice it if you are switching between programs. If you are in Outlook when you walk away, I think you can hit insert T when you return to see if focus has gone to a Reminder, assuming that you have the always keep on top option set. Frankly, this is a key reason I have my mail and calendar linked to my phone.  I love getting the reminders on my phone in case I’ve walked away from my laptop. 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 1:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

I’m sorry, my explanation is not accurate enough. I really mean meeting reminder events from the calendar. I used to be able to have an email sent 10 minutes before a meeting and that no longer happens. The was an Office365 update that Oracle sent out and I thought a setting might have changed but alas, I cannot find anything.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 12:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Reminders in Outlook Office365

 

All –

I’ve been trying to figure out how to get email reminders in Outlook and I cannot. I can get a reminder, if I remember to alt tab until I find it but I really need emails reminders, can anyone help?



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moderated Enabling FTP Transfer in Your Browser

Richard Turner
 

Greetings,

I just found that I could not download a file through an FTP link.  After some searching, discovered this article that explains about browsers recently blocking FTP links and how to fix it.

 

Enabling FTP Transfer in Your Browser

Starting in late 2020, web browser developers began disabling FTP (File Transfer Protocol) file downloads by default. Our assumption is that they consider such downloads security risks. Artwork makes all of our software available to customers via FTP so until we change this, our customers still need to use FTP. This article describes how the user can change the browser to allow FTP file downloads.

Firefox

Firefox version 86 and later block FTP by default. If you get a strange dialog box after clicking on an ftp link on one of Artwork's download pages, this is the reason. (Note - it is also possible that your company's firewall may block all FTP traffic. Check with your IT department if you are not sure.)



type into Firefox's address bar: about:config




You will be warned to proceed with caution:

Accept the Risk and Continue.




When presented with the next window, enter into the search box the term "ftp". You will see a number of settings related to ftp file transfers.

We are interested in the parameter network.ftp.enabled. If the value is set to false, then ftp is disabled. We want to change that value from false to true. To change the value from false to true click on the toggle button.



After doing this you will see the value is now true.

You can close this window; now you will be able to use ftp to download Artwork's programs.

 


 

Google Chrome

By default, Google Chrome will attempt to send you to a different application in order to use FTP as you can see below when I try to download Qckvu3 from Artwork's web site:




To correct this, first type into the address bar: chrome://flags and you will see the following window:



Now type into the search bar: enable-ftp

You should see the flag for enable-ftp. If it is set to Default or to Disabled, press the label/button and select Enabled.



Now all you need to do is to press the button labeled Relaunch at the bottom of the window. This will restart Chrome and your change will take effect.

Once you have done this, you should be able to download Artwork's software from our web site using Chrome.

 


 

Microsoft Edge

Since recent versions of Microsoft Edge are built on Chrome, the instructions for enabling ftp on Edge are exactly the same as those for Chrome. (see above)

 

From: Enable FTP File Transfer/Download in Your Browser (artwork.com)

 

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 


moderated Re: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Pat Byrne
 

When I was interviewing, mostly before ADA I mentioned in my cover letter that I was blind. I always thought that if I showed up for an interview withouut warning it might piss off the employer and endanger my future employment. If the blindness wnaring put them off, then probably I wouldn't have been considered anyway.
From what I've heard and guessed, since ADA an employer can still justify not hiring a person with a disability, for some other obscure reason. Then just suck it up and move on.
Pat ByrneAt 11:24 PM 6/28/2021, you wrote:

Mike,

I can't tell why you're wondering if you should take a laptop to an interview. What kind of job are you seeking? Is there something about it that suggests the need for a laptop?

Several people have suggested legalistic approaches to interviews. I'd try not to get hung up on what your rights are. Those arguments are for afterwards, if the employer treats you unfairly.

It may or may not be true that a prospective employer is required to accommodate a disabled interviewee. Assuming for the sake of argument that they are, it does raise the question about whether to inform an employer ahead of an interview of your disability. This is really a question of timing, and it has been a tricky one since long before the ADA. For example, do you mention or imply it on your resume? Or do you wait until you're invited for an interview? Or, yet another possibility, do you show up without your disability announced ahead of time in order to ensure the employer can't pretend you weren't qualified? After all, if they are willing to take the time to interview, it means they've concluded you are qualified. From that point it's a question of convincing them you're also the best person for that job. Which approach to take can vary from applicant to applicant and from employer to employer.

It's wrong to say that if the employer doesn’t treat you right, you wouldn't want to work there anyway. The reality is that rejection hurts, and rejection due to disability is galling.

You need to go into an interview with knowledge of what the employer does and, to the extent possible, the nature of the work environment. If you can show genuine confidence, great. If you don't feel confident, try to manage your discomfort. In either case, listen carefully for every signal the people you speak to send. Adapt how you present yourself accordingly.

In theory, meaning according to the law, an employer shouldn’t ask you at the interview stage how you'd function at the job for which you're applying. In practice, the moment is likely to come when you find yourself asking yourself should you explain anyway. My sense is that the answer is usually yes. An employer can always find a non-disability-related excuse not to hire a disabled person, so putting them at ease in this respect most likely can only help you. In addition, in that moment when you ask yourself the question, it's likely it will be because you have a sense you've piqued their interest. Go for it. Think in terms of how to convince your interviewers that you'd do a great job for them.

Good luck. I hope you're excited at the prospect of the interview, even though you're also surely nervous.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:29 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Question about JAWS at job interviews

Hi,


When you went to job interviews, did you bring your own laptop with JAWS, or did the employer provide JAWS as an interview accommodation? I currently only have a desktop, but am willing to obtain a laptop. I am assuming that I cannot expect any interview accommodations, and that I should be prepared. Any thoughts?


Thank you,

Mike






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