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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Adrian Spratt
No, that wasn't me, but for the record, the person (who shall remain nameless) wasn't disparaging your experience. Just stating his own.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 5:55 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't! I already did by detailing the tests I did with Narrator and their results. And regardless of what I might think, I said nothing about the rep being wrong, I figure they should be intelligent enough to figure that out on their own. I don't know if it was you or somebody else, but they mentioned having a cheap keyboard and had never seen what I was describing. Just because they've never had a particular problem themselves, why do people insist on not believing that someone else might actually be experiencing it? Anyway, I do have another keyboard from a different manufacturer. I don't use it regularly, its just a spare. Anyway I hooked it up to see if the problem is specific to the keyboard I am using and the problem occurred with that keyboard too. Gene... On 11/28/2022 5:34 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: You might consider sending a report of your experience via tech support's email system. It wouldn't be to criticize the rep, but rather to alert them that you've encountered a legitimate JAWS defect in Edge that their reps appear not to know about. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Gene Warner
I already did by detailing the tests I did with Narrator and their results. And regardless of what I might think, I said nothing about the rep being wrong, I figure they should be intelligent enough to figure that out on their own.
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I don't know if it was you or somebody else, but they mentioned having a cheap keyboard and had never seen what I was describing. Just because they've never had a particular problem themselves, why do people insist on not believing that someone else might actually be experiencing it? Anyway, I do have another keyboard from a different manufacturer. I don't use it regularly, its just a spare. Anyway I hooked it up to see if the problem is specific to the keyboard I am using and the problem occurred with that keyboard too. Gene... On 11/28/2022 5:34 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
You might consider sending a report of your experience via tech support's email system. It wouldn't be to criticize the rep, but rather to alert them that you've encountered a legitimate JAWS defect in Edge that their reps appear not to know about. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Adrian Spratt
You might consider sending a report of your experience via tech support's email system. It wouldn't be to criticize the rep, but rather to alert them that you've encountered a legitimate JAWS defect in Edge that their reps appear not to know about.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 5:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't! Well, that didn't take long. While in Narrator Edge did not respond at all to either alt+up arrow or alt+down arrow. Even more, when I tried those keys and got nothing from Edge, I tried them again, this time making it a point not to release the alt key at the same time as the arrow key and Edge again did not respond to it like it did with JAWS running. Sounds to me like whomever I got for a support rep at Vispero didn't know what they were talking about, or they were just trying to dismiss a legitimate case. Gene... On 11/28/2022 4:57 PM, Gene Warner wrote: That will be fun, the only time I ever use Narrator is when I am |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
JM Casey
I'm not using edge, and actually don't know what make of keyboard I had as it was just one I took from an old workplace. It'sa pretty standard and cheap office keyboard. I've never noticed this behaviour in any other browser.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: November 28, 2022 04:55 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't! Yeah, that would be interesting to hear if anyone else sees this behavior. I am using a wired Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 without the inaccessible Microsoft Intelitype Pro drivers, just the standard generic keyboard drivers. The behavior has been occurring for quite a while now, so long in fact that I can't recall if it was there from day one or showed up later in the game. Also: This email came to me with "**** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****" in the subject. How do I figure out where it is coming from? Because if it is my system, I will need to figure out how to prevent it from being added in the future. Gene... On 11/28/2022 4:41 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yeah, that certainly isnt' expected behaviour. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Gene Warner
Well, that didn't take long. While in Narrator Edge did not respond at all to either alt+up arrow or alt+down arrow. Even more, when I tried those keys and got nothing from Edge, I tried them again, this time making it a point not to release the alt key at the same time as the arrow key and Edge again did not respond to it like it did with JAWS running.
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Sounds to me like whomever I got for a support rep at Vispero didn't know what they were talking about, or they were just trying to dismiss a legitimate case. Gene... On 11/28/2022 4:57 PM, Gene Warner wrote:
That will be fun, the only time I ever use Narrator is when I am installing Windows or JAWS. But I will give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Gene Warner
That will be fun, the only time I ever use Narrator is when I am installing Windows or JAWS. But I will give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Gene... On 11/28/2022 4:52 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
You might double-check by turning off JAWS and opening Narrator, then doing those keystrokes again. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Gene Warner
Yeah, that would be interesting to hear if anyone else sees this behavior. I am using a wired Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 without the inaccessible Microsoft Intelitype Pro drivers, just the standard generic keyboard drivers. The behavior has been occurring for quite a while now, so long in fact that I can't recall if it was there from day one or showed up later in the game.
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Also: This email came to me with "**** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****" in the subject. How do I figure out where it is coming from? Because if it is my system, I will need to figure out how to prevent it from being added in the future. Gene... On 11/28/2022 4:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yeah, that certainly isnt' expected behaviour. |
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Re: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Adrian Spratt
You might double-check by turning off JAWS and opening Narrator, then doing those keystrokes again.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 4:39 PM To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't! Hi everyone! For those that celebrate it, I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving holiday. I contacted Vispero about a problem I was experiencing with JAWS and Edge and they told me that the alt+up arrow and down arrow to expand and collapse combo boxes where native to the browser and not JAWS key strokes I had always thought they were. The problem that I was experiencing was that if I am not careful to release the alt key at the same time I release the arrow key, Edge sees it as a separate key stroke and jumps me to the settings and more button, requiring that I F6 back to the web page I am working on. Its very frustrating and annoying. I could see it doing that if I pressed and released the alt key without any other keys, but if you press an alt key along with another key, it should not be treated as a separate key stroke just because I didn't release it soon enough. Gene... |
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Re: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
JM Casey
Yeah, that certainly isnt' expected behaviour.
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Would be interesting to hear if others have the same experience. Or maybe this is something peculiar to/about your keyboard, even if it wasn't doing that previously. -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Warner Sent: November 28, 2022 04:39 PM To: JAWS support list <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't! Hi everyone! For those that celebrate it, I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving holiday. I contacted Vispero about a problem I was experiencing with JAWS and Edge and they told me that the alt+up arrow and down arrow to expand and collapse combo boxes where native to the browser and not JAWS key strokes I had always thought they were. The problem that I was experiencing was that if I am not careful to release the alt key at the same time I release the arrow key, Edge sees it as a separate key stroke and jumps me to the settings and more button, requiring that I F6 back to the web page I am working on. Its very frustrating and annoying. I could see it doing that if I pressed and released the alt key without any other keys, but if you press an alt key along with another key, it should not be treated as a separate key stroke just because I didn't release it soon enough. Gene... |
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Interesting! Key strokes I thought were JAWS keys aren't!
Gene Warner
Hi everyone!
For those that celebrate it, I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving holiday. I contacted Vispero about a problem I was experiencing with JAWS and Edge and they told me that the alt+up arrow and down arrow to expand and collapse combo boxes where native to the browser and not JAWS key strokes I had always thought they were. The problem that I was experiencing was that if I am not careful to release the alt key at the same time I release the arrow key, Edge sees it as a separate key stroke and jumps me to the settings and more button, requiring that I F6 back to the web page I am working on. Its very frustrating and annoying. I could see it doing that if I pressed and released the alt key without any other keys, but if you press an alt key along with another key, it should not be treated as a separate key stroke just because I didn't release it soon enough. Gene... |
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OutLook 19, I think
Karen Reynolds
I’m running Office 19, I think. I know Windows 10, latest updated, and latest Jaws. I’ve noticed a recent change. If I type in an e-mail address into a message and it is a new one typed in by me, not from a link in a webpage, and it is not one I’ve sent or received messages from before, It pops up a dialog box and nothing I do will let me get past it to send the message. It has me create a new contact which doesn’t always work. How can I turn this off?
Karen
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Re: inaccessible page links
Van Lant, Robin
Justin, Since you have AIRA, try asking the rep to tell you what is visually happening and where the clickable aspect is. You might find a trick that is repeatable. For example, may they will tell you that there is a small graphic just to the left of where the Listen Now text is or that when you left mouse click it, a button appears. I like to ask AIRA to describe the page for me so I can see if I can come up with a workaround for the future.
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 11:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: inaccessible page links
Sometimes it works to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then arrow a couple times to be sure I landed in the right place and then do a left mouse click.
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On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.
I’ve never used anything like that, but here’s something that has worked for me with pages that don’t appear to have links or buttons.
My doctor’s office uses a page that has links and buttons that are labeled very badly. I’ve learned through trial and error that if I think something should be a link or button, to try pressing enter. It doesn’t always work, but usually gets me where I need to go.
Good Luck.
Lori Lynn
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On Behalf Of Justin Williams
It has to b logged in to.
Not sure how to get around that.
Justin
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On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Is there a URL you can share so myself and others can play around with it? Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian
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Re: inaccessible page links
Van Lant, Robin
Sometimes it works to route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then arrow a couple times to be sure I landed in the right place and then do a left mouse click.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: inaccessible page links
WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.
I’ve never used anything like that, but here’s something that has worked for me with pages that don’t appear to have links or buttons.
My doctor’s office uses a page that has links and buttons that are labeled very badly. I’ve learned through trial and error that if I think something should be a link or button, to try pressing enter. It doesn’t always work, but usually gets me where I need to go.
Good Luck.
Lori Lynn
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Justin Williams
It has to b logged in to.
Not sure how to get around that.
Justin
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On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Is there a URL you can share so myself and others can play around with it? Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 If you cannot or will not imagine the results of your actions, there’s no way you can act morally or responsibly. Little kids can’t do it; babies are morally monsters — completely greedy. Their imagination has to be trained into foresight and empathy. ~ Ursula LeGuin, 2005 Interview in The Guardian KeyCorp Public KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other unapproved messaging applications for business purposes. This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. |
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Arabic Jaws
Abdulla Luqman <abdulla@...>
Does anyone use Jaws with Arabic voices please?
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Re: Read Iris
Abdulla Luqman <abdulla@...>
Hello Howard
Thanks for the interest. The software can be downloaded from:
Many thanks
Abdulla
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2022 4:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Read Iris
Is this Read Iris a softwaare package or ? Where can it be found and purchased or downloaded? Thanks. Howard
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Re: Read Iris
Howard Traxler
Is this Read Iris a softwaare package or ? Where can it be found and purchased or downloaded? Thanks. Howard
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I don't think many people use that anymore.
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On 11/28/22, fahadali9014@... <fahadali9014@...> wrote:
Greetings. I follow different posts. But this is my first post here. Anyone |
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Re: Read Iris
Curtis Chong
Thank you. Unfortunately, I do not use this and have had no experience with Read Iris. Sorry I can’t be of help. I’d be glad to do some experimentation assuming this is a free software. Kindly, Curtis Chong On Nov 27, 2022, at 8:12 PM, Abdulla Luqman <abdulla@...> wrote:
Read Iris is an OCR and PDF convertor. On 27 Nov 2022, at 11:20 PM, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
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fahad ali
Greetings. I follow different posts. But this is my first post here. Anyone who could share tutorials on Team Talk with JAWS would be tremendous! Note: Latest versions of both are highly recommended.
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Re: Read Iris
Abdulla Luqman <abdulla@...>
Read Iris is an OCR and PDF convertor. On 27 Nov 2022, at 11:20 PM, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
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