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moderated Re: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

Maria Campbell
 

I can't believe the mistake I made about my installation of j2020.  It's this simple:  I kept on hearing j2019, rather than J20.19 and the rest of the version number, thus thinking j2020 had not installed properly.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 10/30/2019 12:11 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Maria,

If you installed Jaws 2020 and activated it and then accidently loaded Jaws 2019 it would of course report you have 1 less SMA than before.
Make sure you use the correct shortcut to load Jaws 2020.
As for Windows asking to continue with administrator rights that is not at all related to Jaws, it happens on some of my Windows 10 machines all the time regardless which shortcut I want to create or add a keyboard shortcut to.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 4:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

It's bad.  I must have a bad installation of J2020.  When I check the version in use, it still says J2019, even though I'm supposed to be inJ 2020.  However, in j2019 I had four upgrades, and in this new confused version I see only three upgrades left.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

On 10/29/2019 6:19 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
Oh that, That has been going on with windows for years. It is just
more frequent with windows 10. Not sure why it happens to most of us
but not to everyone then all of a sudden it does. Nothing you can do
about it. If there was a way to stop it be leave me a lot of us would
do it.`


On 10/29/2019 3:06 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Why would I have to hit continue with administration rights just to
set up a shortcut key to start JAWS all of a sudden?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.

On 10/29/2019 5:59 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
If you are using a normal or guest account you have to log into your
main user account that has administrative rights. This has nothing
to do with jaws it is windows restricting access to your PC. Only
administrators can install programs or change most settings.

On 10/29/2019 2:48 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
How do I give myself administration rights that JAWS 2020 is
suddenly asking for?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
nothing.

On 10/29/2019 4:31 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:
It works fine on my win 10 1903 version with TB 60.

On 10/29/2019 10:36 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
Sorry Andrew that's what I meant.

On 10/29/2019 1:33 PM, Andrew Summers via Groups.Io wrote:
It's not JAWS key plus F3, it's JAWS key plus NumPad3.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: 29 October 2019 16:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Found my first problem with JFW 2020

Well to me its minor IMHO, but JAWS 2020 will not read the
status using JAWS key plus F3 using Thunderbird V 68.2.










moderated Re: [External] J2020.1910.54.400 Download Link + What's New

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 06:49 AM 10/30/2019, David Goldfield wrote:
I'll admit that I was one of those users who was initially
disappointed at what I perceived as a minor update without the
earthshaking large feature set I was hoping to see in the initial 2020
release. However, I thought better of it when I considered what we
experienced with the 2019 release cycle. The initial 2019 update also
didn't contain a huge amount of new features but we certainly saw that
new features were added over time during the 2019 update cycle, such
as the picture smart feature. I know that JAWS users are used to
massive feature updates when the new release is launched, followed by
a series of minor maintenance updates during the year. What I think
we're seeing are features which roll out over time, rather than one
big update containing 25 brand new features all at once.
I'm more concerned about old features continuing to work than new features. Ever since the first beta and now with the official 2020 release, I cannot add dictionary entries to my default file, nor can I associate another file as my default dictionary. My only recourse is to add entries manually to the file in Notepad, which is tedious and time consuming. How can such a basic aspect of screen-reading software go unnoticed and unattended, especially since I've reported this problem since the first beta, and sent Vispero Support detailed crash dumps? Answer: They just don't care. Software developers only listen to us when we threaten to withdraw our financial support.Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090
Email: ofiol@verizon.net


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Chris Hill
 

Probably more when you include a decent voice or two and the ocr engine.

On 10/30/2019 11:33, Marty Hutchings wrote:
I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing.  Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true.  I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone:  (518)330-5188
E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website:  http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program  release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson































moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 

Jaws 2020 download file is 44,122 KB or about 40MB.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Hutchings" <mhutchings152730@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020


500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson


























moderated Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

JM Casey
 

Oh yeah, only the classic skin will work properly. Accept no substitutes.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 30, 2019 11:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Hay all,  The comment about skins got me thinking, so I reinstalled Winamp on the laptop and set the skins to classic, which is what I had it set to on my desktop and what to you know, it works now.  JAWS reads the tracks in the play list as i up and down arrow through it and the cross-fading works after a little fiddling  with it.

Thanks for baring with me through this.

Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:25 PM

Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

His email said he was on Jaws 2019  and not Jaws 15 this end which should be completely unproblematic.

.

However I agree  that he should experiment with views/skins in Winamp.

If that does not work then Possibly uninstall Winamp completely and re-download from  http://ninite.com/ and try again with the tried and tested method.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 28 October 2019 22:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Something is wrong if you cannot arrow through eh playlist editor. This works fine for me in Windows 10, using JFW. And as Winamp hasn’t been updated much since 2013 or so (except for that 5.8 beta version that was mysteriously released recently), JAWS 15 should really still do what you need. However, if you are on Windows 10 with JAWS 15, you may already be experiencing a whole host of problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 28, 2019 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

My daughter wants me to DJ for her 16 birthday this Saturday.  Her play list is completed.  I had planned to run the music from a Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2019 and Winamp which allows cross fading of songs, but JAWS does not tell me which screen that I am in nor does it let me arrow up and down through the play list as it used to with Windows 7 on my desktop machine.  I decided to use Windows Media Player on the laptop which does let me arrow through the play list and reads the tracks, but no cross fading feature.  Is there a plugin for Windows Media Player that will do this for me?  I tried looking at the plugin download menu option through the player, but no joy.  Just sound enhancers for surround sound.

 


moderated Re: a couple of Jaws questions

JM Casey
 

Hi.

No need to remove the old version -- you may find it useful someday if
something isn't working right. There's also not much need, in my experience,
to keep numerous old versions of the screen-reader around -- but some even
still swear by JAWS 17 for certain things, so eh, it's up to you.

The other thing is also up to you --- you have configuration files in your
old jFW. JAWS can "import" those settings to the new one. Say "yes" and
you'll never see that message again.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: October 30, 2019 12:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a couple of Jaws questions

Hi List:

Had latest Jaws (2020 downloaded(via tandem) this morning. 2019 version
still remains. Should the older(2019) version be deleted, and if yes,
what's the best method to do this?

Further, when the new(2020) Jaws version starts, it says something about an
older version being detected, and asking me if I want to "import/migrate
settings". Is this anything to be concerned about, and should this have
been done via the tandem session when the 2020 release was installed?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson.


moderated a couple of Jaws questions

David Pearson
 

Hi List:

Had latest Jaws (2020 downloaded(via tandem) this morning. 2019 version still remains. Should the older(2019) version be deleted, and if yes, what's the best method to do this?

Further, when the new(2020) Jaws version starts, it says something about an older version being detected, and asking me if I want to "import/migrate settings". Is this anything to be concerned about, and should this have been done via the tandem session when the 2020 release was installed?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson.


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Marty Hutchings
 

I am sure that JAWS 2020 is not a half of a terabyte.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

Since I like to provide correct information wherever possible I just downloaded the offline installer for the 64 Bit version of Jaws 2020.1910.54 and it is 832Mb.
The regular installer which downloads what is needed during the setup is 44.1Mb.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

What are you asking?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version.
For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install.
The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Marty Hutchings
 

500 or 600 GB?



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 10:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

Marty Hutchings
 

Hay all,  The comment about skins got me thinking, so I reinstalled Winamp on the laptop and set the skins to classic, which is what I had it set to on my desktop and what to you know, it works now.  JAWS reads the tracks in the play list as i up and down arrow through it and the cross-fading works after a little fiddling  with it.
Thanks for baring with me through this.
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
 

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player
 

His email said he was on Jaws 2019  and not Jaws 15 this end which should be completely unproblematic.

.

However I agree  that he should experiment with views/skins in Winamp.

If that does not work then Possibly uninstall Winamp completely and re-download from  http://ninite.com/ and try again with the tried and tested method.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 28 October 2019 22:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

Something is wrong if you cannot arrow through eh playlist editor. This works fine for me in Windows 10, using JFW. And as Winamp hasn’t been updated much since 2013 or so (except for that 5.8 beta version that was mysteriously released recently), JAWS 15 should really still do what you need. However, if you are on Windows 10 with JAWS 15, you may already be experiencing a whole host of problems.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: October 28, 2019 5:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Plugins for Windows Media Player

 

My daughter wants me to DJ for her 16 birthday this Saturday.  Her play list is completed.  I had planned to run the music from a Windows 10 laptop running JAWS 2019 and Winamp which allows cross fading of songs, but JAWS does not tell me which screen that I am in nor does it let me arrow up and down through the play list as it used to with Windows 7 on my desktop machine.  I decided to use Windows Media Player on the laptop which does let me arrow through the play list and reads the tracks, but no cross fading feature.  Is there a plugin for Windows Media Player that will do this for me?  I tried looking at the plugin download menu option through the player, but no joy.  Just sound enhancers for surround sound.

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

 

I for one am glad Vispero has finally left the 90's and early 2000's behind and does no longer send out what to many are useless pieces of plastic especially since in my case I haven't had a PC with a DVD drive for many years.
The Jaws installer has changed some time ago and it is now a fairly small setup program which means it does not contain all the files needed for installation, instead it will download what is required from the web.
This approach is used by more and more software companies, it's been this way with Adobe Acrobat Reader for a long time, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are both installed this way, if you subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 the installer for the Office suite is also like this and so are many others.
The one difference between installers like most of the ones I mentioned above and the Jaws installer is that you can actually keep the Chrome installer or the Edge installer and if you run it a year from now on a new system it will still work and also download whatever is the latest version. For Jaws you still need to download a different setup program for the version of Jaws you want to install, but since it is only a bit over 40Mb, it only takes a few seconds on most fast internet connections nowadays and another nice thing is that you don't have to worry about 32 Bit and 64 Bit, the installer does both, looks at your system and knows which to install. The older installer was about 180 Mb, but it still downloaded the OCR component during the installation.
If for some reason you need a full installer or maybe you have a very slow internet connection where it's better to have everything downloaded to your computer first you can still download the entire DVD so to speak, it's I think something like a 500 or 600 Gb download and it is entirely meant to be run offline if needed.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 5:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

Hay bud;

 

From your desktop hit the windows key and type the name in the run box and hit enter

 

It takes you to the windows store and the desktop version is there

 

Is it cold in pasco??

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via Groups.Io
Sent: October 30, 2019 8:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

Where do I go to download the desktop app?

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

it appears to be barely accessible with Chrome and NVDA so I wouldn’t take any bets. In both cases on this machine, both NVDA and Chrome are current versions.

 

From: Sameer

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 02:45

Subject: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

Is Whatzapp’s desktop app accessible with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mulund, Mumbai


moderated Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Where do I go to download the desktop app?

 

Best regards,

 

Kimsan Song

 

kimsansong@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 3:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

it appears to be barely accessible with Chrome and NVDA so I wouldn’t take any bets. In both cases on this machine, both NVDA and Chrome are current versions.

 

From: Sameer

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 02:45

Subject: Accessibility of Whatzapp's desktop app

 

 

Dear List friends,

 

Is Whatzapp’s desktop app accessible with JAWS 2019?

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mulund, Mumbai


moderated Shortcut keys issue resolved in Jaws2020

Richard Turner
 

For those who may remember, Jaws 2019 prevented me from using my desktop shortcut keys that I had defined that worked perfectly prior to Jaws2019.  Things like control+alt+w to open word.

Jaws2020 has resolved that issue, which was fairly unique to a few systems; mine included.

Now, all my old shortcut keys work perfectly.

 

I will also say that Jaws2020 seems more responsive.

 

Later,

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2020

george b <gbmagoo@...>
 

The reason is because they make major updates through the year now and would
to keep sending out c d's for the updates.
They suggest downloading the update and then installing. Then saving the
update on a thumb drive and do for each update through the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loreal Lavigna
Sent: October 30, 2019 4:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020
Importance: High

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson



moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Rick Mladek
 

Is the 2020 version talked about the beta or full release version? Should they not be sending out email notifications directly to inform users and not have us find about the versions released through these types lists?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

correct

On 2019-10-30 12:54, Loreal Lavigna wrote:
This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that
they are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue
this in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out
DVD's, the version which will be current by the time you receive the
DVD will already be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release
which you would get on the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd,
and if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson















moderated Re: Jaws 2020

mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
 

correct

On 2019-10-30 12:54, Loreal Lavigna wrote:
This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd, and
if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson














moderated Re: Jaws 2020

Loreal Lavigna
 

This is true. I do remember hearing on a podcast and later reading
somewhere they would no longer be sending out CD/DVD discs with JAWS.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: http://www.facebook.com/TranscriptsByLoreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

They announced in one of the pod casts this summer updating jaws that they
are not sending out c d's anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 29, 2019 20:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

Why don't you just download it, the fact is that even if they continue this
in my opinion useless and wasteful tradition of mailing out DVD's, the
version which will be current by the time you receive the DVD will already
be newer than the original Jaws 2020.1910.54 release which you would get on
the DVD.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 2020

No, they no longer will mail out CD's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Pearson" <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 9:22 PM
Subject: Jaws 2020


Hi list:

Will Vispero be mailing out this latest Jaws program release on cd, and
if yes, when should I expect to receive it?

Sincerely,



David S. Pearson