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moderated Re: Outlook won't let me use al f to save emails

Adrian Spratt
 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kestrel Verlager
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook won't let me use al f to save emails

 

I’ve had this issue on and off before, but last time I solved it through random key presses and dumb luck, so I don’t remember specifically what I did to fix it.

 

I’m running Windows 10, Office 365, and Jaws 2022, the latest update.

 

The issue is that when I am in Outlook and I read an email I want to save, when I press alt f to invoke the file menu, no menus appear, and Windows just makes the ding sound that indicates you can’t do that.

 

When I am in the inbox list of emails and I first press enter to get into an email I want to read, Jaws says “Read only” before reading the email.

 

I know there is a reading pane checkbox somewhere on the ribbon, but I know I have that set to the correct setting to allow me to read everything, because I checked this the previous time I had this issue.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Kestrell


moderated Re: Ongoing Quick Assist update issue

Bharat
 

Hi Bill,

Thank you so much for posting the solution. It worked for me perfectly well.

YOur help is really appreciated.

Thank you,

Bharat.

On 6/3/22, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Actually, I did. I always try to verrify procedures before I send them out.
I'm sorry it didn't work for you.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Ongoing Quick Assist update issue

Hi,
Did you have any luck using it that way?
Because it doesn't work with me.
I've tried it a few days back, and after I read your e-mail gave it
another shot, no go.
BTW, checked if there is an update for the quick assist, already have
the latest one.
both narrator's scan modes off and on gives "no next edit, no previous
edit" bla bla with the "e" and "shift plus e"

On 6/3/22, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
I just spoke with Microsoft, and for now, there is another temporary
solution to not being able to use the Quick Assist app with a screen
reader.
They told me that, with Narrator, it is usable with the following
instructions:

1. Quit whichever screen reader you have running, unless your screen
reader
is Narrator.
2. Start Narrator with CONTROL plus WIN Key plus ENTER, unless Narrator
is
already running.
3. Open Quick Assist with CONTROL plus Win Key plus Q
4. While holding down the Narrator Command Key (usually CAPSLOCK), press
the
Space Bar to start Scan Mode.
5. Press the letter E to navigate to the edit box where you would enter
your
code.
6. Press the Space Bar to enter forms mode.
7. Enter the code, and proceed as usual.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

















moderated Outlook won't let me use al f to save emails

Kestrel Verlager <kestrell@...>
 

I’ve had this issue on and off before, but last time I solved it through random key presses and dumb luck, so I don’t remember specifically what I did to fix it.

 

I’m running Windows 10, Office 365, and Jaws 2022, the latest update.

 

The issue is that when I am in Outlook and I read an email I want to save, when I press alt f to invoke the file menu, no menus appear, and Windows just makes the ding sound that indicates you can’t do that.

 

When I am in the inbox list of emails and I first press enter to get into an email I want to read, Jaws says “Read only” before reading the email.

 

I know there is a reading pane checkbox somewhere on the ribbon, but I know I have that set to the correct setting to allow me to read everything, because I checked this the previous time I had this issue.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Kestrell


moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

Sean Murphy
 

All,

 

The root issue with such technology outlined in this thread is the developers, User Experience and Designers are not being educated or upskilled in Accessibility. If they understood accessibility correctly, included in their standard way-of-working, etc, etc. We wouldn’t need these tools. They are a band-aid approach hiding the true root issue. Product teams do not consider everyone when they design. They are not using correct Human Centric Design which is a discipline in creating services, goods and products. Accessibility teams have a hard enough time in getting these teams to fix issues. The stats of disable people vs the main stream is low. We as a community is responsible to improve this engagement and stats. As metrics speak louder than complaints. If they get 1000 complaints saying hey I cannot use your tool, then this has a ripple effect throughout the company. As the Product Owners metrics are impacted.

 

The other issue is the disability community as a whole is not vocal enough or vocal in the right way. How many people send complaints to the companies for specific web sites; ring their support desk; does the company track such information; does the company action on such complaints; etc. A conference my wife attended for Print Disabilities highlighted this point from one of the vendors. They are trying to bring in a solution into shopping centres and their answers: No one who is blind goes to our shops. I have heard the same comeback from a range of tech companies as well.

 

I am not talking about utilising the ADA, as this is a stick. If they know they have a vocal disability community who will walk away from their services and tell everyone. This impacts their brand and bottom line. This what counts for companies.

 

 

Sean

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2022 4:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

 

Yes, I understand the problem. I was just passing on information requested by Andy.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 10:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

 

The trouble with only using something like this, and not contacting the company with the page in question is, that just like if you do the keystroke to use the overlay, this add-on won't let the owner of the page and paying for the overlay, that we are, or aren't using it or even blocking it.

So we aren't doing our part to get rid of the problem.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:20 AM

Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi, again, Tony. Here is a review of

 

Overview

Compatible with your device


Web accessibility overlays don't work. Wave them all bye-bye in one easy step, with AccessiByeBye!

If you use a screen reader and have been prompted to press a hotkey to turn on some website's screen reader mode, you've likely encountered the category of website add-ons known as accessibility overlays. These include services like AccessiBe, EqualWeb, MaxAccess, and UserWay.
 
We know that while these overlays are supposed to make websites more accessible, they're actually annoying and often counter-productive. That's why we made AccessiByeBye, a simple browser extension that blocks these overlays.
 
Just install AccessiByeBye into your browser, and those pesky overlays won't bother you again. There's no catch. We don't collect your web browsing habits or other personal information, and the AccessiByeBye extension won't slow down your browser or computer. If you ever decide you do want one of those overlays, it's easy to turn off the extension at any time.
 
At Pneuma Solutions, we're all in favor of any tools that truly improve accessibility. So if any of the accessibility overlays that we block actually become useful to the people that they claim to serve, then we'll remove those blocks. But until then, we believe that the spread of accessibility overlays is hindering true improvements in website accessibility.

 

You may read more by clicking the link below.

 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/accessibyebye/ikcamkknjfdplkdjjncobgmpciklohjg?hl=en

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from

the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

 

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

 

The website is:

 

https://pneumasolutions.com/

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: youtube keystrokes

Mike Pietruk
 

Bill

Thanks for posting all this. One other point that should mention that for
these KB commands to work is that we, JAWS users, have to press insert+t
to get out of the virtual mode.
This, by far, is the most complete list I've seen on this topic and
includes something I have been curious to play with, that "c" command for
bringing up the caption mode.
What I am hoping to discover is whether this will allow for clipping of
text from a video for quick easy review and searching later offline and
for saving of the info in a text searchable form.
And, oh yes, Madison, thanks for raising the question which prompted
Bill's thorough list.


moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

Bill White
 

Yes, I understand the problem. I was just passing on information requested by Andy.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 10:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

 

The trouble with only using something like this, and not contacting the company with the page in question is, that just like if you do the keystroke to use the overlay, this add-on won't let the owner of the page and paying for the overlay, that we are, or aren't using it or even blocking it.

So we aren't doing our part to get rid of the problem.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:20 AM

Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi, again, Tony. Here is a review of

 

Overview

Compatible with your device


Web accessibility overlays don't work. Wave them all bye-bye in one easy step, with AccessiByeBye!

If you use a screen reader and have been prompted to press a hotkey to turn on some website's screen reader mode, you've likely encountered the category of website add-ons known as accessibility overlays. These include services like AccessiBe, EqualWeb, MaxAccess, and UserWay.
 
We know that while these overlays are supposed to make websites more accessible, they're actually annoying and often counter-productive. That's why we made AccessiByeBye, a simple browser extension that blocks these overlays.
 
Just install AccessiByeBye into your browser, and those pesky overlays won't bother you again. There's no catch. We don't collect your web browsing habits or other personal information, and the AccessiByeBye extension won't slow down your browser or computer. If you ever decide you do want one of those overlays, it's easy to turn off the extension at any time.
 
At Pneuma Solutions, we're all in favor of any tools that truly improve accessibility. So if any of the accessibility overlays that we block actually become useful to the people that they claim to serve, then we'll remove those blocks. But until then, we believe that the spread of accessibility overlays is hindering true improvements in website accessibility.

 

You may read more by clicking the link below.

 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/accessibyebye/ikcamkknjfdplkdjjncobgmpciklohjg?hl=en

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from

the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

 

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

 

The website is:

 

https://pneumasolutions.com/

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

K0LNY
 


The trouble with only using something like this, and not contacting the company with the page in question is, that just like if you do the keystroke to use the overlay, this add-on won't let the owner of the page and paying for the overlay, that we are, or aren't using it or even blocking it.
So we aren't doing our part to get rid of the problem.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2022 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: AccessiByeBye!

Hi, again, Tony. Here is a review of

 

Overview

Compatible with your device


Web accessibility overlays don't work. Wave them all bye-bye in one easy step, with AccessiByeBye!

If you use a screen reader and have been prompted to press a hotkey to turn on some website's screen reader mode, you've likely encountered the category of website add-ons known as accessibility overlays. These include services like AccessiBe, EqualWeb, MaxAccess, and UserWay.
 
We know that while these overlays are supposed to make websites more accessible, they're actually annoying and often counter-productive. That's why we made AccessiByeBye, a simple browser extension that blocks these overlays.
 
Just install AccessiByeBye into your browser, and those pesky overlays won't bother you again. There's no catch. We don't collect your web browsing habits or other personal information, and the AccessiByeBye extension won't slow down your browser or computer. If you ever decide you do want one of those overlays, it's easy to turn off the extension at any time.
 
At Pneuma Solutions, we're all in favor of any tools that truly improve accessibility. So if any of the accessibility overlays that we block actually become useful to the people that they claim to serve, then we'll remove those blocks. But until then, we believe that the spread of accessibility overlays is hindering true improvements in website accessibility.

 

You may read more by clicking the link below.

 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/accessibyebye/ikcamkknjfdplkdjjncobgmpciklohjg?hl=en

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from

the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

 

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

 

The website is:

 

https://pneumasolutions.com/

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

Bill White
 

Hi, again, Tony. Here is a review of

 

Overview

Compatible with your device


Web accessibility overlays don't work. Wave them all bye-bye in one easy step, with AccessiByeBye!

If you use a screen reader and have been prompted to press a hotkey to turn on some website's screen reader mode, you've likely encountered the category of website add-ons known as accessibility overlays. These include services like AccessiBe, EqualWeb, MaxAccess, and UserWay.
 
We know that while these overlays are supposed to make websites more accessible, they're actually annoying and often counter-productive. That's why we made AccessiByeBye, a simple browser extension that blocks these overlays.
 
Just install AccessiByeBye into your browser, and those pesky overlays won't bother you again. There's no catch. We don't collect your web browsing habits or other personal information, and the AccessiByeBye extension won't slow down your browser or computer. If you ever decide you do want one of those overlays, it's easy to turn off the extension at any time.
 
At Pneuma Solutions, we're all in favor of any tools that truly improve accessibility. So if any of the accessibility overlays that we block actually become useful to the people that they claim to serve, then we'll remove those blocks. But until then, we believe that the spread of accessibility overlays is hindering true improvements in website accessibility.

 

You may read more by clicking the link below.

 

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/accessibyebye/ikcamkknjfdplkdjjncobgmpciklohjg?hl=en

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: AccessiByeBye!

 

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from

the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

 

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

 

The website is:

 

https://pneumasolutions.com/

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: youtube keystrokes

David Moore
 

Turn off the virtual cursor, and press J to rewind, K to pause or play, and L to fast forward! That helps a lot right there!


On Sat, Jun 4, 2022, 12:12 AM Madison Martin <Madison.Martin2000@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I was just wondering, are there any keystrokes for using Youtube (watching
videos) with Jaws? Using latest versions of Edge, Jaws and Windows 11.
Madison







moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

Bill White
 

Hi, Tony. I perused the whole webpage you gave

https://pneumasolutions.com/

and there was no mention of the Chrome extension you mentioned,
AccessiByeBye!

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 3:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: AccessiByeBye!

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from
the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

The website is:

https://pneumasolutions.com/


moderated Re: youtube keystrokes

Bill White
 

Hi, Madison. Check out the following.


YouTube Shortcuts

Pause and Resume Video

Let's start with the most common and useful YouTube keyboard shortcuts. You
can press the Spacebar while watching a video to pause it. You can also
press the Spacebar to resume a paused video. What many people don't know,
however, is that you can get the same results using the K key.

Skip Forward or Backward

Another set of well known YouTube keyboard shortcut keys are the forward
arrow and backward arrow keys. The video skips 5 seconds ahead or behind
depending on the arrow key. And once again, here's something not many people
know.

You can also forward or rewind a YouTube video in 10 second increments by
pressing the J and L keys.

Skip to a Different Point or Repeat

That's not all that YouTube offers in the way of keyboard navigation. You
can actually jump to a specific part of the video. A YouTube video, no
matter how long, is divided into ten parts. From the number row on your
keyboard, you can press any key from 0 to 9 to jump to the specific parts.

For instance, pressing 0 will bring you to the start of the video, i.e.
repeat the video.
Pressing 5 will bring you to the exact middle of the video.
Press 9 and you will jump to the last 10th of the video.

Speed Up or Slow Down YouTube Video

YouTube has a lot of videos of just people talking. Sometimes they talk
really fast while sometimes they talk really slow. Luckily, you can speed up
or slow down YouTube videos rather easily. This functionality isn't made
obvious. But you can get to these controls by clicking on the gear icon and
selecting Playback speed. That requires at least 3 clicks. A much easier way
to speed up or slow down YouTube videos is to use YouTube keyboard shortcut
keys.

How to Speed Up or Slow Down YouTube video

YouTube offers 8 playback speed options: 0.25x, 0.50x, 0.75x, Normal, 1.25x,
1.5x, 1.75x, 2.0x. You can switch between these using the following shortcut
keys.

Shift + . or >
Shift + , or <

Navigate YouTube Video Frame by Frame

If you thought the ability to speed up or slow down a YouTube video was
impressive, prepare to be surprised. YouTube also lets you go through a
video frame by frame.
First, you have to pause the video, which you can do using Spacebar or K.
Next, press the . (Period) to go forward a frame or press the , (comma) to
go back a frame.

You can also hold down either of these keys to watch the video is super slow
motion in either direction.

Raise or Lower Volume

Most keyboards have some media controls keys to control things such as
volume. These are almost always smaller than the other keys and fixated on
the top row where you have to look down and find them.

Luckily, the online YouTube video player has its own volume control with
YouTube keyboard shortcuts. You can control it using the up arrow key to
raise the volume or down arrow key to lower the volume.

Mute YouTube Video

This is another useful YouTube keyboard shortcut but not many know about it.
You can actually mute or unmute a YouTube video by pressing the M key.

Play the Next Video or Previous Video

YouTube always has a list of suggestions whether Autoplay is on or not. If
the video you're currently watching fails to hold your attention, you can
completely skip it and move to the next one on the list. To do this you just
have to use the Shift + N YouTube keyboard shortcut keys. This also works if
you're watching a playlist. In a playlist, you can even go back to the
previous video by pressing Shift + P.

Select Search Box

While watching a video on YouTube you can simply press "/" and start typing
your search query. Pressing the "/" key brings the search bar into focus.
You can also select search suggestions using the arrow keys and hit Enter to
run the selected search. This is mighty convenient because you never have to
use your mouse or slide on the trackpad to click on the search bar.

Switch to Fullscreen

While playing a YouTube video you can simply press the F key to switch to
full screen. If the video is already in full screen, pressing F will switch
it back to the normal view.

You can also press the F11 on the keyboard to toggle between Fullscreen
modes in Windows PCs.

Enable or Disable Closed Captions

Many YouTube videos have auto-generated closed captions for people with a
hearing disability. Closed captions are also helpful when you're in an
environment where you can't really rely on audio. They're also helpful if
you're watching something in a language you don't fully understand, or maybe
you don't get the accent.

You can turn on or turn off closed captions with YouTube keyboard shortcuts
by simply pressing "C" on the keyboard.

Open YouTube Mini-Player in the Bottom Right


YouTube mini-player keyboard shortcuts

Another cool feature not many people know about on YouTube is the YouTube
mini-player. Yes, you can actually continue to browse YouTube while your
video plays without having to open another tab or anything. Press I while
the video is playing to move the video into the bottom right corner.

So, there they are, some of the most useful YouTube keyboard shortcut keys
that we found. Whether you are a power user, a nerd, or a regular Joe who is
used to clicking things, these YouTube shortcut keys above should prove very
useful.


Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 9:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: youtube keystrokes

Hi all,
I was just wondering, are there any keystrokes for using Youtube (watching
videos) with Jaws? Using latest versions of Edge, Jaws and Windows 11.
Madison


moderated Re: Verbosity, stop saying bullet?

Mike B.
 


Hi Mark,
 
After I sent the steps I went into the punctuation list and found that there was no Bullets in there.
 
I should have checked first but, I didn't and I'm sorry for sending you on that wild goose chase, so to speak.
 
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2022 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Verbosity, stop saying bullet?

Mike I tried your instructions but I couldn't get it to work. In terms of using the dictionary, that did work. I associated it with a space and a click sound.  Keep in mind that you have to enter the bullet character and not the word bullet. I don't know how to describe the bullet character non-visually or how to type it. I copied it from the Speech history. 


moderated youtube keystrokes

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I was just wondering, are there any keystrokes for using Youtube (watching
videos) with Jaws? Using latest versions of Edge, Jaws and Windows 11.
Madison


moderated Re: Verbosity, stop saying bullet?

Mark
 

Mike I tried your instructions but I couldn't get it to work. In terms of using the dictionary, that did work. I associated it with a space and a click sound.  Keep in mind that you have to enter the bullet character and not the word bullet. I don't know how to describe the bullet character non-visually or how to type it. I copied it from the Speech history. 


moderated Re: reading pdfs

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi David Kingsbury and all, I couldn’t download the book either. I answered and filled out everything until the end and it wouldn’t do anything else.  Andy and Leroy

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 8:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdfs

 

David,

 

I tried to order your book but kept getting an error message. It didn’t tell me what I must have filled out wrong. I was able to donate—because I think it’s a good cause—but I can’t download your book. Any suggestions?

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdfs

 

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

 


moderated Re: reading pdfs

Shirley Tracy
 

David,

 

I tried to order your book but kept getting an error message. It didn’t tell me what I must have filled out wrong. I was able to donate—because I think it’s a good cause—but I can’t download your book. Any suggestions?

 

Shirley

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: David Kingsbury
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdfs

 

Hi,
As Kestrell and others have pointed out, you can run into various problems with PDF's. For best results generally, use Adobe Acrobat Reader rather than one of the browser PDF readers. And you can read about the vvarious issues encountered and how to deal with them in Chapter 10 of my book.
Regards,
David

 


moderated Re: AccessiByeBye!

Andy
 

What does it do?

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Sohl" <tonysohl@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2022 3:05 PM
Subject: AccessiByeBye!


Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from
the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

The website is:

https://pneumasolutions.com/


moderated AccessiByeBye!

Tony Sohl
 

Hi there is an extention for chrome called AccessiByeBye! It is from the company pnuma solutions formally serotech.

I believe you can install it on chrome and use it with any screenreader.

The website is:

https://pneumasolutions.com/


moderated Re: : Re: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

Don Mauck
 

They don’t however, create accessible  web sites and only create more problems. Overlays are BAD, BAD!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Machise
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

 

Milton and list, was told don't use that feature, it really doesn't work.

----- Original Message -----

From: Milton Ota

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2022 1:23 PM

Subject: Re: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

 

Yes, when you see a message like what you described, that is what is known as overlay. You will find that it is beginning to be deployed on large and small sites. Subscription to such an overlay annual cost around $500.00 plus per year and sellers are telling organizations and large coorperation that deploying this overlay will protect them from lawsuits related to an inaccessible website.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

 

Milton, what do you mean by overlay technology? Lately I have run into some sites where it says at the top to “click here to use in screen reader mode.” Sometimes it works and lots of times it doesn’t. Is that what you are talking about, and can you explain it more? Tghanks. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 11:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

 

I hope these banks don’t deploy overlay technology as many companies and organization are beginning to subscribe to this kind of technology and not forcing webmasters to properly code websites according to the W3C guidelines for accessible website.

 

They pay quite a log of money for this technology but it doesn’t necessarily solve all the accessibility issues of the website and at times it makes it worst.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 10:19 AM
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Subject: AnWells Fargo has made changes to web site

 

Well, another bank, Wells Fargo has become almost unusable with JAWS. I just got off the phone with Wells Fargo but they were not able to help me navigate their web page.  They are going to work on the problem and get back with me in a few days. Up until a few days ago it was very accessible, but now it is almost impossible to use.  Just a few days ago US Bank also made changes and made it harder to navigate.  Very frustrated.


moderated Re: But the bullet yut you don't spokfen is actuallty is a single character not the word.

K0LNY
 

I have a regular web page I use that puts bullets on all the lines I want to read on a regular basis, so my method  works well for eliminating hearing it.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2022 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: But the bullet yut you don't spokfen is actuallty is a single character not the word.

Hi, Ratshtron. This will probably work, but you would need to add an entry for each type of bullet, and there are several marks for different types of bullets.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:49 PM
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Subject: But the bullet yut you don’t spokfen is actuallty is a single character not the word.

 

 

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