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If you are still hearing JAWS prior to a Zoom meeting, to me it points to the audio settings in Zoom. How are the ear-buds listed in the sound settings? Or, which speaker is JAWS being heard from, which one is used by JAWS in the JAWS menus? Knowing this will help set the Zoom settings
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 7:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Zoom and ear bud Not at all. I only hear Jaws through the ear buds if I’m not in a zoom session. Can you hear JAWS talking through your ear buds? On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 6:55 PM kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote: The ear buds don’t show up in audio settings of Zoom. When I pull them out of the case they automatically turn on. Then Jaws doesn’t talk so I cannot do anything until I put the ear buds back in the case. When I’m not in Zoom the ear buds work. Any thoughts of what I could do? Thanks, Kevin I would check the Zoom audio settings. After you have the buds working, look at the Zoom settings & set the ear-buds as the default output and mic. Hello, I’m assuming the ear buds are being connected by B;lutooth. Did you go to the Utilities Menu in JAWS and select Sound Card and check to see if the model ear buds you are using is listed and checked? ThenYou can also use the layered command Insert + Spacebar + C and change the sound card option. If your ear buds then connect, you need to check the Audio settings in Zoom. When you open Zoom, find the Settings button followed by either pressing the Spacebar or the Enter key and Tab once. Arrow Down the list from the General to Audio and Press Enter. Tab through the items to be sure the ear buds show in the Speaker combo/dropdown and keep tabbing to the Microphone and be sure that the earbud microphone is the mike you wish to use. If all checks out, press Escape and then try joining a meeting. Hope this helps. Hello, I use the most recent versions of Windows10, Jaws2022 and Zoom. I was using an ear bud while in a meeting. I had to setup the Zoom session and once in the meeting I would turn on the ear bud. It would connect and I could hear everything in the meeting. Today I did the same and now I couldn’t hear anything. I turned off the ear bud and sound comes back to the speakers on the laptop. I then backed out of zoom, turned on the eaar bud and went back into Zoom. Once zoom was up Jaws couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t start the session as I couldn’t move around. Any thoughts of what would be causing this problem? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: changing how jaws speaks a word
You want to modify the Jaws dictionary. If you only
want to change the pronunciation of this word while in a specific program try
the following.
1. Open the specific app / program and press,
Insert + D, to open the Jaws dictionary for this app / program.
2. Tab to, Add, press the spacebar to open.
You're in the, Actual word edit field, so type the word as it actually
is.
3. Tab once to the, Replacement field, and type the word
the way you want it to be pronounced by Jaws.
4. Now tab through the other dialogues making any
settings changes you feel you might need to make, which there shouldn't be any,
until you get to the, Okay button, and press the spacebar.
4. Now press, Control + S, to save and, Alt + F4, to
close.
If you want this dictionary change to be in effect for
all programs do it this way:
1. Press, Insert + D, to open
the Jaws dictionary, then press, Control, Shift + D, to open the Jaws
default dictionary.
2. Tab to, Add, press the spacebar to open.
You're in the, Actual word edit field, so type the word as it actually
is.
3. Tab once to the, Replacement field, and type the word
the way you want it to be pronounced by Jaws.
4. Now tab through the other dialogues making any
settings changes you feel you might need to make, which there shouldn't be any,
until you get to the, Okay button, and press the spacebar.
Stay safe and take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 6:00 PM
Subject: changing how jaws speaks a word
Hi,
I was reading about the Great Lakes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes
I was going through by headings and one of them is sewage,
which if you are listening to this you will discover it is pronounced
incorrectly. It should be sueage, or that is as close as I can get to it. How do
I change how Jaws speaks this word to speak it correctly? Also, when there are
updates will it keep it?
Karen
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Re: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Yes, I have one too. It is an S. I can't delete it.
On 4/6/2022 7:43 PM, Albert Cutolo
wrote:
Good evening everyone,
When I go into my google chrome’s address
bar too type a search, there is a letter a that comes up which
I can’t get rid of, even when I try using the delete key on
my dell laptop computer. No matter how many times I try
deleting that a letter, its still appears. I’ve gone into the
settings for chrome, deleted history, cash cookies and
passwords and also did a clear all data. How can I get rid of
that a letter?
Thanks for any and all suggestions and
advice,
Al
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Re: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Brave has the same annoying occurrence. Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of
Google chrome browser.
Al:
I’ve also noticed this recently.
The letter “A” always pops up in the Google Chrome address
bar.
I’ve tried to get rid of it too, but have had no luck so
far.
I’m now getting to the point where I just ignore it and move
on.
Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 8:44
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An anoying letter that
comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Good evening everyone,
When I go into my google chrome’s address bar too type a
search, there is a letter a that comes up which I can’t get rid of, even
when I try using the delete key on my dell laptop computer. No
matter how many times I try deleting that a letter, its still appears.
I’ve gone into the settings for chrome, deleted history, cash cookies and
passwords and also did a clear all data. How can I get rid of that a
letter?
Thanks for any and all suggestions and advice,
Al
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Re: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Al: I’ve also noticed this recently. The letter “A” always pops up in the Google Chrome address bar. I’ve tried to get rid of it too, but have had no luck so far. I’m now getting to the point where I just ignore it and move on. Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 8:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser. Good evening everyone, When I go into my google chrome’s address bar too type a search, there is a letter a that comes up which I can’t get rid of, even when I try using the delete key on my dell laptop computer. No matter how many times I try deleting that a letter, its still appears. I’ve gone into the settings for chrome, deleted history, cash cookies and passwords and also did a clear all data. How can I get rid of that a letter? Thanks for any and all suggestions and advice, Al
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Not at all. I only hear Jaws through the ear buds if I’m not in a zoom session.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 7:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Zoom and ear bud Can you hear JAWS talking through your ear buds? On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 6:55 PM kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote: The ear buds don’t show up in audio settings of Zoom. When I pull them out of the case they automatically turn on. Then Jaws doesn’t talk so I cannot do anything until I put the ear buds back in the case. When I’m not in Zoom the ear buds work. Any thoughts of what I could do? Thanks, Kevin I would check the Zoom audio settings. After you have the buds working, look at the Zoom settings & set the ear-buds as the default output and mic. Hello, I’m assuming the ear buds are being connected by B;lutooth. Did you go to the Utilities Menu in JAWS and select Sound Card and check to see if the model ear buds you are using is listed and checked? ThenYou can also use the layered command Insert + Spacebar + C and change the sound card option. If your ear buds then connect, you need to check the Audio settings in Zoom. When you open Zoom, find the Settings button followed by either pressing the Spacebar or the Enter key and Tab once. Arrow Down the list from the General to Audio and Press Enter. Tab through the items to be sure the ear buds show in the Speaker combo/dropdown and keep tabbing to the Microphone and be sure that the earbud microphone is the mike you wish to use. If all checks out, press Escape and then try joining a meeting. Hope this helps. Hello, I use the most recent versions of Windows10, Jaws2022 and Zoom. I was using an ear bud while in a meeting. I had to setup the Zoom session and once in the meeting I would turn on the ear bud. It would connect and I could hear everything in the meeting. Today I did the same and now I couldn’t hear anything. I turned off the ear bud and sound comes back to the speakers on the laptop. I then backed out of zoom, turned on the eaar bud and went back into Zoom. Once zoom was up Jaws couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t start the session as I couldn’t move around. Any thoughts of what would be causing this problem? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Hi, Albert. You Can't. It happens to everyone, but it doesn't interfere with the search.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser. Good evening everyone, When I go into my google chrome’s address bar too type a search, there is a letter a that comes up which I can’t get rid of, even when I try using the delete key on my dell laptop computer. No matter how many times I try deleting that a letter, its still appears. I’ve gone into the settings for chrome, deleted history, cash cookies and passwords and also did a clear all data. How can I get rid of that a letter? Thanks for any and all suggestions and advice, Al
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Hi, I was reading about the Great Lakes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes I was going through by headings and one of them is sewage, which if you are listening to this you will discover it is pronounced incorrectly. It should be sueage, or that is as close as I can get to it. How do I change how Jaws speaks this word to speak it correctly? Also, when there are updates will it keep it? Karen
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An anoying letter that comes up in the address bar of Google chrome browser.
Good evening everyone, When I go into my google chrome’s address bar too type a search, there is a letter a that comes up which I can’t get rid of, even when I try using the delete key on my dell laptop computer. No matter how many times I try deleting that a letter, its still appears. I’ve gone into the settings for chrome, deleted history, cash cookies and passwords and also did a clear all data. How can I get rid of that a letter? Thanks for any and all suggestions and advice, Al
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Can you hear JAWS talking through your ear buds?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 6:55 PM kevin meyers < kman2020@...> wrote: The ear buds don’t show up in audio settings of Zoom. When I pull them out of the case they automatically turn on. Then Jaws doesn’t talk so I cannot do anything until I put the ear buds back in the case. When I’m not in Zoom the ear buds work. Any thoughts of what I could do? Thanks, Kevin I would check the Zoom audio settings. After you have the buds working, look at the Zoom settings & set the ear-buds as the default output and mic. Hello, I’m assuming the ear buds are being connected by B;lutooth. Did you go to the Utilities Menu in JAWS and select Sound Card and check to see if the model ear buds you are using is listed and checked? ThenYou can also use the layered command Insert + Spacebar + C and change the sound card option. If your ear buds then connect, you need to check the Audio settings in Zoom. When you open Zoom, find the Settings button followed by either pressing the Spacebar or the Enter key and Tab once. Arrow Down the list from the General to Audio and Press Enter. Tab through the items to be sure the ear buds show in the Speaker combo/dropdown and keep tabbing to the Microphone and be sure that the earbud microphone is the mike you wish to use. If all checks out, press Escape and then try joining a meeting. Hope this helps. Hello, I use the most recent versions of Windows10, Jaws2022 and Zoom. I was using an ear bud while in a meeting. I had to setup the Zoom session and once in the meeting I would turn on the ear bud. It would connect and I could hear everything in the meeting. Today I did the same and now I couldn’t hear anything. I turned off the ear bud and sound comes back to the speakers on the laptop. I then backed out of zoom, turned on the eaar bud and went back into Zoom. Once zoom was up Jaws couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t start the session as I couldn’t move around. Any thoughts of what would be causing this problem? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: homes and environments with more than one JAWS users: Switching JAWS user settings
What you're suggesting would be good to put in the suggestions list for freedom scientific. Find that email where you find all your freedom scientific stuff online.
Sent from Ashleigh's Fire
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On April 5, 2022, at 9:29 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
I doubt that would work, as it would throw registry entries.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 29 March 2022 03:08
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: homes and environments with more than one JAWS users: Switching JAWS user settings
What if you rename the folder Jaws is in, like \freedom scientific\Jaws1
and change the desktop shortcut path in its properties, to reflect it, and then install Jaws a second time, and it will get installed in \freedom scientific\jaws and then there
should be two copies in \freedom scientific.
I am only speculating, but it might work.
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: homes and environments with more than one JAWS users: Switching JAWS user settings
As mentioned, I'm not looking to create separate window user accounts. The scenario I presented is more akin to one family member sitting down to help another family member out and adjusting the JAWS settings for their comfort, after which
the first family member switches the settings back for their comfort. It sounds like the only option is the import and export settings feature. I've never done that before. Do you think it is good for this sort of quick settings changes? That would include
things like dictionary changes, voice profile changes, speech and sound scheme changes, etc.
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Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
I wonder, when you're setting up your hot key, if you're not maximizing the window do you want the hot key to apply to? When you're in the jaws properties for there desktop app you wanna set a hot key for, and you have set that hot key, tab to
run and press your end key for maximized window. Hopefully that should help.
Sent from Ashleigh's Fire
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On April 6, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:
If the shortcut disappearing is due to an upgrade the deleted shortcut will not show in the recycle bin. To prevent an accidental delete of an icon go to the properties of the recycle bin and check the option to get a delete
confirmation warning.----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
I do find it hard to believe it is the delete accidentally being pressed, if it always the same desktop shortcut disappearing.
Now if random shortcuts got deleted, then that I might attribute to someone accidentally deleting them.
I remember when icons used to get duplicated all the time, and I believe that was done by someone accidentally right clicking a mouse.
Maybe MS changed the context menu such that accidental right mouse clicks don't duplicate the shortcut.
Also, it would be interesting to note if the folks with the missing chrome shortcuts are the only users of the computer in question.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Hi,
I also have this problem with the Google Chrome shortcut.
So now I've renamed it and will wait to see if the hotkey gets blanked out.
I did have this problem with my Desktop shortcut for Jaws. With every Jaws update the hot key was blanked out. This hasn't happened for over a year now perhaps since I renamed it to Jaws22. Each year I have a new shortcut for that year's
version of Jaws. There is no longer a problem with the short cut being blanked out.
Peter T.
On 4/5/2022 10:05 PM, Bill White wrote:
I doubt that others have found what I have found, tom, because it is only Google Chrome that chooses to put a new shortcut in each time Google Chrome updates.
Bill:
Thanks for the warning.
I’d be curious if others have found the same thing that Bill has.
Kind of disconcerting, in my opinion.
Tom Behler
Hi, Tom. I realize that your original Google Chrome shortcut is now gone, but it will be back, the minute Google Chrome updates again. That is why I don't use the approach you have used.
Glenn:
Thanks for the tip.
I went to users, default user desktop, and deleted the shortcut from there.
It is now gone.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
I would look in c:\users\default user\desktop, and the desktop of other automatically installed users, like public or administrator, and remove the extra from there.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Adrian:
I followed the simpler steps you use from Vispero Tech Support, and they seem to have worked at least so far.
I guess the true answer will be known when Google Chrome does another update.
One interesting issue I discovered, though, is that I can’t get rid of my original Google Chrome desktop shortcut.
I went to the applications menu and tried deleting it that way, but had no luck. When I hit on the delete option, I was asked if I wanted to send the shortcut to the re-cycle bin, and when I said yes, I was told that the shortcut
is not found.
So, I now have two Google Chrome shortcuts on my desktop.
If you or anyone else has any ideas as to how I can permanently get rid of the original shortcut, please let me know.
I appreciate everyone’s help and suggestions.
Tom Behler
Tom and Jeff,
It might be worth trying a completely different approach that Vispero’s tech guys gave me for JAWS’ desktop items. Those icons used to disappear on me all the time. The solution was to add another word or phrase to the icon’s
name. In the case of JAWS 22, for instance, I added “shortcut.” Thus: JAWS 2022 shortcut.” I have no idea why it makes a difference, but it does. I haven’t lost a JAWS icon since. Shouldn’t the same fix work for other icons?
So, the steps:
Place focus on the icon.
Press F2 to enable editing of the icon’s name.
Make the desired change.
Press enter.
That’s it. Simple, utterly mysterious and completely effective.
Jeff:
I tried your new set of instructions, but got only so far.
Here’s what I did:
1 touch the start key, the search menu opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop icon settings Link, press enter here
However, once I got to this point, and tried to tabbed to allow themes to change desktop icons, I only found a link, not a checkbox to uncheck.
I think I’m close, but not quite there.
All I know is that this seems much more complicated than it needs to be for making such a simple change.
And, of course, I’m still confused as to why the shortcut is lost to begin with.
If you don’t mind, please let me know where I might still be going wrong, and I’ll give things another try.
Hopefully, more people than just me will benefit from these instructions.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
Bill
Try this, hoping it works better
1 touch the start key, the search menu opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop icon settings Link, press enter here
4 tab to, Allow themes to change desktop icons check box, you want this unchecked
5 apply the change, Alt+A, or tab to the apply button & press enter
6 close the settings window
Jeff:
I tried several times, but can’t seem to get to the item that you say needs to be un-checked.
Could you send me step-by-step instructions for accomplishing this?
I think I’m missing a step somewhere.
As additional information, I’m using Windows 10 here on a Dell laptop.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler
From:
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On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
You will need to uncheck, permit themes to change the desktop, in
Themes and related settings, System settings & then, desktop icons
Tab through the options and uncheck the box indicated above
HTH
Hello:
I wonder if it is not a Windows 10 thing.
I have the same problem with the Outlook short cut I created on my desk top.
Every once in a while it will disappear and I have to set it up again.
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Hello, everyone.
I’m not sure if this is a Jaws or Google issue, but recently, it seems that my alt control G Google Chrome shortcut constantly disappears. Sometimes, it stays for a week or so, but at other times, it doesn’t even stick for a day.
I reinstate the shortcut by accessing Google Chrome on my desktop, and then by going to properties to the shortcut page.
Is there any way I can stop this behavior??
Thanks!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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The ear buds don’t show up in audio settings of Zoom. When I pull them out of the case they automatically turn on. Then Jaws doesn’t talk so I cannot do anything until I put the ear buds back in the case. When I’m not in Zoom the ear buds work. Any thoughts of what I could do? Thanks, Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Zoom and ear bud I would check the Zoom audio settings. After you have the buds working, look at the Zoom settings & set the ear-buds as the default output and mic. Hello, I’m assuming the ear buds are being connected by B;lutooth. Did you go to the Utilities Menu in JAWS and select Sound Card and check to see if the model ear buds you are using is listed and checked? ThenYou can also use the layered command Insert + Spacebar + C and change the sound card option. If your ear buds then connect, you need to check the Audio settings in Zoom. When you open Zoom, find the Settings button followed by either pressing the Spacebar or the Enter key and Tab once. Arrow Down the list from the General to Audio and Press Enter. Tab through the items to be sure the ear buds show in the Speaker combo/dropdown and keep tabbing to the Microphone and be sure that the earbud microphone is the mike you wish to use. If all checks out, press Escape and then try joining a meeting. Hope this helps. Hello, I use the most recent versions of Windows10, Jaws2022 and Zoom. I was using an ear bud while in a meeting. I had to setup the Zoom session and once in the meeting I would turn on the ear bud. It would connect and I could hear everything in the meeting. Today I did the same and now I couldn’t hear anything. I turned off the ear bud and sound comes back to the speakers on the laptop. I then backed out of zoom, turned on the eaar bud and went back into Zoom. Once zoom was up Jaws couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t start the session as I couldn’t move around. Any thoughts of what would be causing this problem? Cheers, Kevin
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Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
If the shortcut disappearing is due to an upgrade
the deleted shortcut will not show in the recycle bin. To prevent an accidental
delete of an icon go to the properties of the recycle bin and check the option
to get a delete confirmation warning.----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 10:55
AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut
Constantly Disappearing
I do find it hard to believe it is the delete
accidentally being pressed, if it always the same desktop shortcut
disappearing.
Now if random shortcuts got deleted, then that I
might attribute to someone accidentally deleting them.
I remember when icons used to get duplicated all
the time, and I believe that was done by someone accidentally right clicking a
mouse.
Maybe MS changed the context menu such that
accidental right mouse clicks don't duplicate the shortcut.
Also, it would be interesting to note if the
folks with the missing chrome shortcuts are the only users of the
computer in question.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly
Disappearing
Hi,
I also have this problem with the Google Chrome
shortcut.
So now I've renamed it and will wait to see if the
hotkey gets blanked out.
I did have this problem with my Desktop shortcut for
Jaws. With every Jaws update the hot key was blanked out. This hasn't happened
for over a year now perhaps since I renamed it to Jaws22. Each year I have a
new shortcut for that year's version of Jaws. There is no longer a problem
with the short cut being blanked out.
Peter T.
On 4/5/2022 10:05 PM, Bill White wrote:
I doubt that others have found what I have found,
tom, because it is only Google Chrome that chooses to put a new shortcut in
each time Google Chrome updates.
Bill:
Thanks for the warning.
I’d be curious if others have found the same thing
that Bill has.
Kind of disconcerting, in my opinion.
Tom Behler
Hi, Tom. I realize that your original Google Chrome
shortcut is now gone, but it will be back, the minute Google Chrome updates
again. That is why I don't use the approach you have used.
Glenn:
Thanks for the tip.
I went to users, default user desktop, and deleted
the shortcut from there.
It is now gone.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
I would look in c:\users\default user\desktop, and
the desktop of other automatically installed users, like public or
administrator, and remove the extra from there.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022
7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome
Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Adrian:
I followed the simpler steps you use from
Vispero Tech Support, and they seem to have worked at least so
far.
I guess the true answer will be known when Google
Chrome does another update.
One interesting issue I discovered, though, is that
I can’t get rid of my original Google Chrome desktop
shortcut.
I went to the applications menu and tried deleting
it that way, but had no luck. When I hit on the delete option, I was
asked if I wanted to send the shortcut to the re-cycle bin, and when I said
yes, I was told that the shortcut is not found.
So, I now have two Google Chrome shortcuts on my
desktop.
If you or anyone else has any ideas as to how I can
permanently get rid of the original shortcut, please let me know.
I appreciate everyone’s help and
suggestions.
Tom Behler
Tom and
Jeff,
It might be worth trying a completely
different approach that Vispero’s tech guys gave me for JAWS’ desktop items.
Those icons used to disappear on me all the time. The solution was to add
another word or phrase to the icon’s name. In the case of JAWS 22, for
instance, I added “shortcut.” Thus: JAWS 2022 shortcut.” I have no idea why
it makes a difference, but it does. I haven’t lost a JAWS icon since.
Shouldn’t the same fix work for other icons?
So, the steps:
Place focus on the icon.
Press F2 to enable editing of the icon’s
name.
Make the desired change.
Press enter.
That’s it. Simple, utterly mysterious and
completely effective.
Jeff:
I tried your new set of instructions, but got only
so far.
Here’s what I did:
1 touch the start key, the search menu
opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and
related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press
enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop
icon settings Link, press enter here
However, once I got to this point, and tried to
tabbed to allow themes to change desktop icons, I only found a link, not a
checkbox to uncheck.
I think I’m close, but not quite there.
All I know is that this seems much more complicated
than it needs to be for making such a simple change.
And, of course, I’m still confused as to why the
shortcut is lost to begin with.
If you don’t mind, please let me know where I might
still be going wrong, and I’ll give things another try.
Hopefully, more people than just me will benefit
from these instructions.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
Bill
Try this, hoping it works better
1 touch the start key, the search menu
opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and
related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press
enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop
icon settings Link, press enter here
4 tab to, Allow themes to change desktop icons
check box, you want this unchecked
5 apply the change, Alt+A, or tab to the apply
button & press enter
6 close the settings window
Jeff:
I tried several times, but can’t seem to get to the
item that you say needs to be un-checked.
Could you send me step-by-step instructions for
accomplishing this?
I think I’m missing a step
somewhere.
As additional information, I’m using Windows 10
here on a Dell laptop.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, April 5,
2022 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
You will need to uncheck, permit themes to change
the desktop, in
Themes and related settings, System settings &
then, desktop icons
Tab through the options and uncheck the box
indicated above
HTH
Hello:
I wonder if it is not a Windows 10
thing.
I have the same problem with the Outlook short cut
I created on my desk top.
Every once in a while it will disappear and I have
to set it up again.
🤔
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West
Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
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Hello, everyone.
I’m not sure if this is a Jaws or Google issue, but
recently, it seems that my alt control G Google Chrome shortcut constantly
disappears. Sometimes, it stays for a week or so, but at other times,
it doesn’t even stick for a day.
I reinstate the shortcut by accessing Google Chrome
on my desktop, and then by going to properties to the shortcut
page.
Is there any way I can stop this
behavior??
Thanks!
Dr. Tom Behler From
Michigan
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Do you know the model number of your keyboard? You may be able to reset that without a key mapper. That being said, the question you're asking has been asked and answered, multiple times, in this group. One example: Accessible app to map menu key
Searching a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive
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I’ve a full Del keyboard that doesn’t have a Windows key on the right side of the spacebar. What is on the right is (going from the spacebar) Alt, key that does nothing, Application key and the control key.
I want to assign that key that does nothing to be my Windows key on the right side. So, I’m looking for a utility that works with JAWS to accomplish this task. Any ideas?
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Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
I do find it hard to believe it is the delete
accidentally being pressed, if it always the same desktop shortcut
disappearing.
Now if random shortcuts got deleted, then that I
might attribute to someone accidentally deleting them.
I remember when icons used to get duplicated all
the time, and I believe that was done by someone accidentally right clicking a
mouse.
Maybe MS changed the context menu such that
accidental right mouse clicks don't duplicate the shortcut.
Also, it would be interesting to note if the folks
with the missing chrome shortcuts are the only users of the computer in
question.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly
Disappearing
Hi,
I also have this problem with the Google Chrome
shortcut.
So now I've renamed it and will wait to see if the hotkey
gets blanked out.
I did have this problem with my Desktop shortcut for Jaws.
With every Jaws update the hot key was blanked out. This hasn't happened for
over a year now perhaps since I renamed it to Jaws22. Each year I have a new
shortcut for that year's version of Jaws. There is no longer a problem with the
short cut being blanked out.
Peter T.
On 4/5/2022 10:05 PM, Bill White wrote:
I doubt that others have found what I have found,
tom, because it is only Google Chrome that chooses to put a new shortcut in
each time Google Chrome updates.
Bill:
Thanks for the warning.
I’d be curious if others have found the same thing
that Bill has.
Kind of disconcerting, in my opinion.
Tom Behler
Hi, Tom. I realize that your original Google Chrome
shortcut is now gone, but it will be back, the minute Google Chrome updates
again. That is why I don't use the approach you have used.
Glenn:
Thanks for the tip.
I went to users, default user desktop, and deleted
the shortcut from there.
It is now gone.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
I would look in c:\users\default user\desktop, and
the desktop of other automatically installed users, like public or
administrator, and remove the extra from there.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022
7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome
Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Adrian:
I followed the simpler steps you use from
Vispero Tech Support, and they seem to have worked at least so far.
I guess the true answer will be known when Google
Chrome does another update.
One interesting issue I discovered, though, is that I
can’t get rid of my original Google Chrome desktop shortcut.
I went to the applications menu and tried deleting it
that way, but had no luck. When I hit on the delete option, I was asked
if I wanted to send the shortcut to the re-cycle bin, and when I said yes, I
was told that the shortcut is not found.
So, I now have two Google Chrome shortcuts on my
desktop.
If you or anyone else has any ideas as to how I can
permanently get rid of the original shortcut, please let me know.
I appreciate everyone’s help and
suggestions.
Tom Behler
Tom and
Jeff,
It might be worth trying a completely different
approach that Vispero’s tech guys gave me for JAWS’ desktop items. Those icons
used to disappear on me all the time. The solution was to add another word or
phrase to the icon’s name. In the case of JAWS 22, for instance, I added
“shortcut.” Thus: JAWS 2022 shortcut.” I have no idea why it makes a
difference, but it does. I haven’t lost a JAWS icon since. Shouldn’t the same
fix work for other icons?
So, the steps:
Place focus on the icon.
Press F2 to enable editing of the icon’s
name.
Make the desired change.
Press enter.
That’s it. Simple, utterly mysterious and
completely effective.
Jeff:
I tried your new set of instructions, but got only so
far.
Here’s what I did:
1 touch the start key, the search menu
opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and
related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press enter
here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop
icon settings Link, press enter here
However, once I got to this point, and tried to
tabbed to allow themes to change desktop icons, I only found a link, not a
checkbox to uncheck.
I think I’m close, but not quite there.
All I know is that this seems much more complicated
than it needs to be for making such a simple change.
And, of course, I’m still confused as to why the
shortcut is lost to begin with.
If you don’t mind, please let me know where I might
still be going wrong, and I’ll give things another try.
Hopefully, more people than just me will benefit from
these instructions.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
Bill
Try this, hoping it works better
1 touch the start key, the search menu
opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces, Themes and
related settings, System settings, press right to switch preview, press enter
here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS announces, Desktop
icon settings Link, press enter here
4 tab to, Allow themes to change desktop icons check
box, you want this unchecked
5 apply the change, Alt+A, or tab to the apply button
& press enter
6 close the settings window
Jeff:
I tried several times, but can’t seem to get to the
item that you say needs to be un-checked.
Could you send me step-by-step instructions for
accomplishing this?
I think I’m missing a step
somewhere.
As additional information, I’m using Windows 10
here on a Dell laptop.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, April 5,
2022 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject:
Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
You will need to uncheck, permit themes to change the
desktop, in
Themes and related settings, System settings &
then, desktop icons
Tab through the options and uncheck the box indicated
above
HTH
Hello:
I wonder if it is not a Windows 10 thing.
I have the same problem with the Outlook short cut I
created on my desk top.
Every once in a while it will disappear and I have to
set it up again.
🤔
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West
Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability
for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on
the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently
confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified
that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the
contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
External Message - Use caution when opening links or
attachments
Hello, everyone.
I’m not sure if this is a Jaws or Google issue, but
recently, it seems that my alt control G Google Chrome shortcut constantly
disappears. Sometimes, it stays for a week or so, but at other times, it
doesn’t even stick for a day.
I reinstate the shortcut by accessing Google Chrome
on my desktop, and then by going to properties to the shortcut
page.
Is there any way I can stop this
behavior??
Thanks!
Dr. Tom Behler From
Michigan
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moderated
Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Hi,
I also have this problem with the Google
Chrome shortcut.
So now I've renamed it and will wait to see
if the hotkey gets blanked out.
I did have this problem with my Desktop
shortcut for Jaws. With every Jaws update the hot key was
blanked out. This hasn't happened for over a year now perhaps
since I renamed it to Jaws22. Each year I have a new shortcut
for that year's version of Jaws. There is no longer a problem
with the short cut being blanked out.
Peter T.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 4/5/2022 10:05 PM, Bill White wrote:
I doubt that others have found what I
have found, tom, because it is only Google Chrome that
chooses to put a new shortcut in each time Google Chrome
updates.
Bill:
Thanks for the warning.
I’d be curious if others have found
the same thing that Bill has.
Kind of disconcerting, in my opinion.
Tom Behler
Hi, Tom. I realize that your original
Google Chrome shortcut is now gone, but it will be back, the
minute Google Chrome updates again. That is why I don't use
the approach you have used.
Glenn:
Thanks for the tip.
I went to users, default user
desktop, and deleted the shortcut from there.
It is now gone.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
I would look in c:\users\default
user\desktop, and the desktop of other automatically
installed users, like public or administrator, and remove
the extra from there.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, April 05, 2022 7:23 PM
Subject: Re:
Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
Adrian:
I followed the simpler steps you use
from Vispero Tech Support, and they seem to have worked at
least so far.
I guess the true answer will be known
when Google Chrome does another update.
One interesting issue I discovered,
though, is that I can’t get rid of my original Google
Chrome desktop shortcut.
I went to the applications menu and
tried deleting it that way, but had no luck. When I hit on
the delete option, I was asked if I wanted to send the
shortcut to the re-cycle bin, and when I said yes, I was
told that the shortcut is not found.
So, I now have two Google Chrome
shortcuts on my desktop.
If you or anyone else has any ideas
as to how I can permanently get rid of the original
shortcut, please let me know.
I appreciate everyone’s help and
suggestions.
Tom Behler
Tom and Jeff,
It might be worth trying a
completely different approach that Vispero’s tech guys
gave me for JAWS’ desktop items. Those icons used to
disappear on me all the time. The solution was to add
another word or phrase to the icon’s name. In the case of
JAWS 22, for instance, I added “shortcut.” Thus: JAWS 2022
shortcut.” I have no idea why it makes a difference, but
it does. I haven’t lost a JAWS icon since. Shouldn’t the
same fix work for other icons?
So, the steps:
Place focus on the icon.
Press F2 to enable editing of
the icon’s name.
Make the desired change.
Press enter.
That’s it. Simple, utterly
mysterious and completely effective.
Jeff:
I tried your new set of instructions,
but got only so far.
Here’s what I did:
1 touch the start key, the search
menu opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces,
Themes and related settings, System settings, press right to
switch preview, press enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS
announces, Desktop icon settings Link, press enter here
However, once I got to this point,
and tried to tabbed to allow themes to change desktop icons,
I only found a link, not a checkbox to uncheck.
I think I’m close, but not quite
there.
All I know is that this seems much
more complicated than it needs to be for making such a
simple change.
And, of course, I’m still confused as
to why the shortcut is lost to begin with.
If you don’t mind, please let me know
where I might still be going wrong, and I’ll give things
another try.
Hopefully, more people than just me
will benefit from these instructions.
Thanks again!
Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
Bill
Try this, hoping it works better
1 touch the start key, the search
menu opens
2 type, desktop icon, JAWS announces,
Themes and related settings, System settings, press right to
switch preview, press enter here
3 tab to related settings, JAWS
announces, Desktop icon settings Link, press enter here
4 tab to, Allow themes to change
desktop icons check box, you want this unchecked
5 apply the change, Alt+A, or tab to
the apply button & press enter
6 close the settings window
Jeff:
I tried several times, but can’t seem
to get to the item that you say needs to be un-checked.
Could you send me step-by-step
instructions for accomplishing this?
I think I’m missing a step
somewhere.
As additional information, I’m
using Windows 10 here on a Dell laptop.
Thank you!
Dr. Tom Behler
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut
Constantly Disappearing
You will need to uncheck, permit
themes to change the desktop, in
Themes and related settings, System
settings & then, desktop icons
Tab through the options and uncheck
the box indicated above
HTH
Hello:
I wonder if it is not a Windows 10
thing.
I have the same problem with the
Outlook short cut I created on my desk top.
Every once in a while it will
disappear and I have to set it up again.
🤔
Regards,
John Doering
Pricing Analyst
Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org
Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired
accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for
the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the
information provided, unless that information is
subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the
intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing,
copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on
the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
External Message - Use caution when
opening links or attachments
Hello, everyone.
I’m not sure if this is a Jaws or
Google issue, but recently, it seems that my alt control G
Google Chrome shortcut constantly disappears. Sometimes,
it stays for a week or so, but at other times, it doesn’t
even stick for a day.
I reinstate the shortcut by
accessing Google Chrome on my desktop, and then by going
to properties to the shortcut page.
Is there any way I can stop this
behavior??
Thanks!
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
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Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
People can just press F2 on an icon or any other
file for that matter, and you can rename it.
Note that when pressing F2, like when most any edit
field, all of the name that is in the field is highlighted, so if you want to
just edit the name and not completely retype it, press home or end or left or
right arrow first, otherwise when you type any letter, the old name will
disappear for the letter you just typed.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly
Disappearing
Hi
Brian,
There is a simple
solution to this problem to be fair.
Take off the Google
Chrome shortcut completely, create a new one and just call it Chrome. Assign
your hotkey to it, and Google Chrome won’t touch it.
All the
best
Steve
Lenore,
I don't think that either Bill or you are
kidding. Part of this is a misunderstanding on my part triggered by the
use of "disappearing," as when Google Chrome is reinstalled I have never seen
(literally) the Chrome desktop shortcut disappear if you set one up to begin
with.
But it's become clear now that what's disappearing isn't the
desktop shortcut, per se, but the one you had previously modified to use a
custom keyboard shortcut to fire it up. And I kinda sorta alluded to the
idea that certain programs (and Google Chrome is apparently one of them) will
replace their existing desktop with a new one when new versions are
installed. In most every case I've seen this occur, it's because the full
path to the program the desktop shortcut fires up is installed in a new, and
version dependent, folder. But when I look at the Chrome desktop shortcut
on my machine, that doesn't seem to be the case for Chrome.
It's a
mystery to me why any program installer would delete the existing desktop
shortcut, and create a new one afresh, if the application path remains
unchanged. That's just strange.
I have no problem admitting that it
would be very annoying indeed if, with every Chrome version update, you have to
go back in to the desktop shortcut and re-establish a keyboard shortcut for
it. (That, or delete it and restore the one that is sent to the Recycle
Bin back to the desktop).
This might be a good time to have a look at
the Google Accessibility Get In Touch
Page and to Contact
the Google Disability Support Team.
There doesn't seem to
be a rational reason for the Google Chrome installer to do this.
--
Brian - Windows 10,
64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Friendship.
. . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.
~ Kim Chernin
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Re: Google Chrome Shortcut Constantly Disappearing
One thing I like doing with shortcuts, upon occasion, is giving them a
unique starting character.
If one has a shortcut called Google Chrome or Chrome,
as an example, there may be other shortcuts beginning with a "g" or a "c".
So, before the first letter, insert a character that is less likely to be
used to make it unique.
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