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moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

 

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 01:43 PM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
Does JFW offer the ability to append text to that which is already in the
clipboard?
-
Not of which I'm aware, as the Clipboard is a function of Windows.

But, and it's an important but, if you're using Windows 10 or 11 (I don't know whether the feature exists in WIndows 8.1) you should seriously consider learning about and using Clipboard History  (Settings, System, Clipboard Pane).  Introduced several years into Windows 10 it makes the clipboard a multi-clipboard where, up to a limit, each thing you clip gets "pushed down the list" of clipped things when you clip the next one until, at some point, the oldest thing clipped gets pushed off.

Afterward, when you open Clipboard History with WinKey + V, the list of things clipped (the last 24, when I brought mine up right now) are presented and each has can be pasted just by gaining focus and activating that item.  Each item also has its own triple dot menu that allows you to delete it at will or pin it to the clipboard so that it cannot get "pushed off" by newer additions.

It makes selecting multiple chunks of text from source(s) a cinch and then allows you to paste them back in your target in whatever order makes sense for what you're doing.

There are multiple discussions on using Clipboard History on the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group.  Probably elsewhere on the various blind technology groups, too.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Mario
 

Yes. JAWSKey+Windows+c should append text to the first copy or subsequent appends. As long as the text has been selected.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Pietruk [mailto:pietruk@...]
Subject: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2022, 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Thanks to Mario, Adrian and Brian for some interesting perspectives on
clipping and marking text.
Hope others may have found some useful practical ideas from this
discussion.

Now, for a follow-up question whose answer I expect is a "no."
Does JFW offer the ability to append text to that which is already in the
clipboard?







.


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

 

"u Does JFW offer the ability to append text to that which is already in the

clipboard?"

 

I believe it does.

 

Append Selected Text To Clipboard. Insert + Windows + C

Also referred to as FSClipboard, text will be added to the clipboard directly after the previous clipboard content. This feature removes all formatting from text that you copy, Making it useful in programs like Microsoft Word when you do not want to include styles, numbering, and other formatting information when pasting text into a document. Using a Copy To Clipboard command instead of an Append To Clipboard command erases any previous clipboard content and replaces it with the new content.

JAWSKey + Windows + C

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

 

Thanks to Mario, Adrian and Brian for some interesting perspectives on

clipping and marking text.

Hope others may have found some useful practical ideas from this

discussion.

 

Now, for a follow-up question whose answer I expect is a "no."

Does JFW offer the ability to append text to that which is already in the

clipboard?

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Mike Pietruk
 

Thanks to Mario, Adrian and Brian for some interesting perspectives on
clipping and marking text.
Hope others may have found some useful practical ideas from this
discussion.

Now, for a follow-up question whose answer I expect is a "no."
Does JFW offer the ability to append text to that which is already in the
clipboard?


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

 

Also, depending on how precise you need to be, it can often be easier to select "slightly beyond the text you need" whether that's a bit more ahead of or following where you want to actually begin/end, and slice those bits off after you've pasted.  Even being sighted, the way that select defaults to working with the mouse means I often get more than I want, by a bit, and I do the precision cutting after pasting to my destination.

Whether I get really precise during selection or not is situationally dependent.

Selecting Text Using Windows Keyboard Shortcuts
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Adrian Spratt
 

You can set the starting point at the end of the text to be selected. I find it convenient when I've read a passage I realize I want to save. Having marked the starting point at the end of that passage, I might press shift-h to read the heading at the beginning of the article or some other navigation command to locate my selection's end point, then confirmed the selection with JAWS key-spacebar, m.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Mike, try:

move to the beginning of what you want to copy, press control+Windows+k to set a temporary placeMarker, move to the end of what you want to copy, press JAWSKey+spacebar and then m to select text between the temporary placemarker and current cursor location, press control+c to copy it to the clipboard.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Pietruk [mailto:pietruk@...]
Subject: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2022, 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
When in a browser such as Edge or Chrome using JFW2022, what is the procedure for marking the beginning and end of a block of text to be copied to the clipboard?
I presume, once marked, ctrl+c would do the actual copying.

Thanks!







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moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

 

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 12:05 PM, Robert Cole wrote:
You will be asked to reinstall from this computer, or download from the internet.
-
I never use the Reset option, as I want to completely wipe the system drive, too, but Reset is an ideal option for the situation at hand.

I agree that you definitely want to choose the "Download from the internet" option if it's presented.  That will get you the very latest version of Windows 10 directly from Microsoft rather than using the built-in recovery partition, which most often contains a very old Windows 10 version if you've owned the machine for several years.

If there is now a choice that's a change, and a positive one, from the early days of the Reset function.  One of the reasons I avoided it was that in the early days it always used the recovery partition which not only got you an older version of WIndows which then needed to have a feature update applied, but also most frequently got you the computer maker's bloatware as well.

When I want a "fresh machine" I want Windows as Microsoft ships it, sans any bloatware.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

Robert Cole
 

Hi,
If you type reset into the search box on the windows start menu, reset this PC will show.
Follow the instructions. You will not need to boot from USB or DVD.
You will be asked to reinstall from this computer, or download from the internet.
I think you should choose to download from the internet.
Dont be afraid when you loose speech, just give it a while and try Narrator with ctrl+windows+enter.
Good luck!
Rob

On Mar 11, 2022, at 10:22 PM, Tom Cramer <tom.cramer1@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC





moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Brian Zolo
 

No problem, Curtis, just wondered if you were the same Curtis Chong that I knew at ohio northern college of law, grin!  I just retired from the department of Defense in June after 35 years of service.  Have a great weekend and really enjoy your contributions to the e-mail list.  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Brian:

 

Although I am from Hawaii (having grown up there for 20 years), I never lived in Ohio. I went from Hawaii to California to Minnesota to Maryland to Iowa to New Mexico and finally to Colorado where I am retired but incredibly busy.

 

Have a great weekend.

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Awesome, Curtis, definitely will try this out!  Curtis, I’m just curious, when I was at ohio northern college of law, there were two guys with your last name: one’s name was Curtis and the other one’s first name was Clayton.  They were from Hawaii.  Any relation?  Have a great weekend!  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Brian:

 

Although I am from Hawaii (having grown up there for 20 years), I never lived in Ohio. I went from Hawaii to California to Minnesota to Maryland to Iowa to New Mexico and finally to Colorado where I am retired but incredibly busy.

 

Have a great weekend.

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 7:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Awesome, Curtis, definitely will try this out!  Curtis, I’m just curious, when I was at ohio northern college of law, there were two guys with your last name: one’s name was Curtis and the other one’s first name was Clayton.  They were from Hawaii.  Any relation?  Have a great weekend!  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Hi Brian:

 

These days, with the Run command and the ability to recycle JAWS with two keyboard commands (JAWSKEY+SPACE then F4), there is really no longer any need for the keyboard shortcut to be added to the Desktop JAWS shortcut. I appreciate the cautionary information, however. You are absolutely right that we don’t need the same shortcut associated with two different shortcuts.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 6:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Good morning, Bill, sure appreciate this info, I’ve just installed silencio so we’ll see how that solution does and then we’ll check out solution 2, grin!  Stay safe, warm, and have a blessed weekend!  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Curtis and Brian. You might want to add an extra step to this "Copy the JAWS shortcut to the Startup folder. After the step,

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder,

 

At this point, you might want to remove the hot key ALT plus CONTROL plus J from the shortcut you pasted into the startup folder. It is never a good thing to have two shortcuts that have the same assigned hot key. so, go into properties of the shortcut you place into the startup folder, and press the delete key on

 

Shortcut key: Hot key‑
Ctrl + Alt + J

 

Tab to Apply, and then proceed with Curtis' directions below,

then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Mario
 

Mike, try:

move to the beginning of what you want to copy,
press control+Windows+k to set a temporary placeMarker,
move to the end of what you want to copy,
press JAWSKey+spacebar and then m to select text between the temporary placemarker and current cursor location,
press control+c to copy it to the clipboard.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike Pietruk [mailto:pietruk@...]
Subject: Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2022, 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
When in a browser such as Edge or Chrome using JFW2022, what is the
procedure for marking the beginning and end of a block of text to be
copied to the clipboard?
I presume, once marked, ctrl+c would do the actual copying.

Thanks!







.


moderated Marking Text for Copying to the Clipboard

Mike Pietruk
 

When in a browser such as Edge or Chrome using JFW2022, what is the
procedure for marking the beginning and end of a block of text to be
copied to the clipboard?
I presume, once marked, ctrl+c would do the actual copying.

Thanks!


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Brian Zolo
 

Good morning, Bill, sure appreciate this info, I’ve just installed silencio so we’ll see how that solution does and then we’ll check out solution 2, grin!  Stay safe, warm, and have a blessed weekend!  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Curtis and Brian. You might want to add an extra step to this "Copy the JAWS shortcut to the Startup folder. After the step,

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder,

 

At this point, you might want to remove the hot key ALT plus CONTROL plus J from the shortcut you pasted into the startup folder. It is never a good thing to have two shortcuts that have the same assigned hot key. so, go into properties of the shortcut you place into the startup folder, and press the delete key on

 

Shortcut key: Hot key‑
Ctrl + Alt + J

 

Tab to Apply, and then proceed with Curtis' directions below,

then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill White
 

Hi, Curtis and Brian. You might want to add an extra step to this "Copy the JAWS shortcut to the Startup folder. After the step,

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder,

 

At this point, you might want to remove the hot key ALT plus CONTROL plus J from the shortcut you pasted into the startup folder. It is never a good thing to have two shortcuts that have the same assigned hot key. so, go into properties of the shortcut you place into the startup folder, and press the delete key on

 

Shortcut key: Hot key‑
Ctrl + Alt + J

 

Tab to Apply, and then proceed with Curtis' directions below,

then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

 

Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

Cornelius
 

Hello Tom,
You can do it with just a few preparation.
What you need at first is to backup all important data from the laptop. After that, you need a windows 10 bootable USB. You can google for the Media creation tool and use it to download a copy of windows 10 media suitable for your laptop.
To wipe off and reinstall windows 10 fresh, connect the bootable USB to your laptop, press the power button to turn it on, then immediately press the appropriate key to get into the boot menu. It can be either f12, f11, or the escape key depending on the brand of laptop you have. For this boot part you may need sighted person to help you choose the USB drive, unless you remember the correct sequence. If things doesn't work out, chances are you need to go into bios and turn off secure boot for it to work.
Once you have successfully boot off the USB, and the windows installation screen comes out, you can turn on narrator and complete the installation of windows.
If you find this task overwhelming, then I would suggest send it to a shop or ask someone with experience to do it for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Cramer
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 11:22 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: Reformatting a computer

Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC


moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

Glenn / Lenny
 

If you download the windows 10 stub install file, it will give you the option to wipe the drive and install a clean copy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1@...>
To: <undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:22 PM
Subject: Reformatting a computer


Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC




moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

Joseph Machise
 

TC there is a way of doing it sorry don't remember it will wipe out your
hard drive it is someware in your recover system.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1@...>
To: <undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:22 PM
Subject: Reformatting a computer


Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC


moderated Reformatting a computer

Tom Cramer
 

Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC

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