Date   

moderated Re: Reformatting a computer

Joseph Machise
 

TC there is a way of doing it sorry don't remember it will wipe out your
hard drive it is someware in your recover system.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1@...>
To: <undisclosed-recipients:>
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:22 PM
Subject: Reformatting a computer


Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC


moderated Reformatting a computer

Tom Cramer
 

Hello,
I have a laptop that I'd like to completely wipe out and basically
start it over as a brand new machine with Windows 10. Am I able to do
this? How would I either load or reload Windows 10? I can load JAWS
when I'm done.
I simply don't want to do something from which I couldn't recover.
TC


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

 

In Windows 10 (and I'd presume 11, but I haven't looked to confirm) Clipboard settings are found in Settings, System, Clipboard Pane.  The Clipboard History toggle is the first one, and Sync across devices is the second.

If you need the ability to clip multiple items to the clipboard history and possibly paste more than once and in different orders then Clipboard History is a godsend.  If you need the same content on different computers the Sync feature creates a clipboard in the cloud.

All of this is accessible by built-in Windows commands.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Brian Zolo
 

Awesome, Curtis, definitely will try this out!  Curtis, I’m just curious, when I was at ohio northern college of law, there were two guys with your last name: one’s name was Curtis and the other one’s first name was Clayton.  They were from Hawaii.  Any relation?  Have a great weekend!  BZ!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Tim Ford
 

Terrific! It is almost always the case that I copy new material to the clipboard, forgetting that I had not pasted the previous contents anywhere. It works like a charm!

Thanks,
Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Tim:

Insert space followed by the letter c will display the last text copied to the clipboard. If you want a clipboard history, you hve to turn on Windows 10 Smart Paste feature.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing clipboard texts.

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

 

I agree with Mike. Ditto is outstanding.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

In addition to what Curtis has mentioned, there are programs out there that
can be used to extend the storage of the clipboard.
The one I've used for years is called Ditto.
To learn more about Ditto, do a google search for "ditto" + "clipboard
extender"
and this will give one abundant info.



On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, Curtis Chong wrote:

Tim:

Insert space followed by the letter c will display the last text copied to
the clipboard. If you want a clipboard history, you hve to turn on Windows
10 Smart Paste feature.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing clipboard texts.

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard,
specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford















moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi Bill,

Interesting. When I spoke to FS about this issue they never mentioned
that it was something other users were experiencing.

I just transitioned to the subscription version of Jaws last fall with
2022 and have had the problem of disappearing menus and options on and
off ever since.

The work-around Curtis describes has resolved the issue, though I
would love to know what causes this problem to begin with. FS has been
next to worthless in diagnosing and fixing the problem. So if you know
others who are experiencing the same issue, please tell them to be
assertive with FS while implementing Curtis's fix in the meantime.

Kim

On 3/11/22, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows
you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you
using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the
$96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and
several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using
the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not
there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a
JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager.
see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no
joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

Adrian Spratt
 

I remember needing to answer this question for myself, and the answer has varied with different versions of JAWS. I notice that I have the following in quick settings:

 

Speak Single Digits if Number Contains Dashes

 

This works for me. I note also that when I put the area code in parentheses, JAWS still verbalizes single digits.

 

Of course, this is for the US and Canada. As Brian notes, other countries have very different numbering sequences. Still, my JAWS quick setting handles those in the UK and France just fine.

 

--

My novel Caroline is now available in paperback, Kindle and audiobook versions: https://adrianspratt.com/book/

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 6:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

 

Are there opinions on how to write phone numbers and extensions in a way that is user-friendly with JAWS?  I can't seem to find a setting in the  JAWS setting center that might do conversions. 


moderated Re: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

Van Lant, Robin
 

The real challenge is  that people type them in so many different ways, even here in the U.s.  I just looked in Quick Settings and found one setting that helps.  I typed “number” in search and found “Speak Single Digits if Number Contains Dashes checked” which would work for numbers written that way.  What I find though are people who use a period, do or don’t use the parentheses, use a slash to separate the area code, or just run the whole number together.    In that settings section for numbers, I also found a threshold setting for when JAWS reads individual digits.  Mine is set to 5.  I don’t’ think I’ve ever really thought about this an; seems like that threshold would be good in some cases and annoying in others   I cannot really figure out how it works though.  It might also depending on the synthesizer you are using. In a quick test, I just typed one hundred thousand in numbers.  If I include the comma, it reds it out as I would hope, but  without the comma, it reads it as digits.  So, lots of factors that can be at play with number interpretation.

I personally like the phone number written with hyphens, as

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Are there opinions on how to write phone numbers and extensions in a way that is user-friendly with JAWS?  I can't seem to find a setting in the  JAWS setting center that might do conversions. 



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Do you mean where JAWS would say something like, "three one o, three two two, five five o o"? I'm trying to find that setting myself, and I can't seem to tell which way to turn for that one.

On 03/11/2022 3:27 PM Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:


Are there opinions on how to write phone numbers and extensions in a way that is user-friendly with JAWS?  I can't seem to find a setting in the  JAWS setting center that might do conversions. 


moderated Re: Reading phone numbers: Opinions

 

Serious request:  Define the format(s) you consider to be phone numbers.

Depending on your part of the world, this varies quite a bit.  The only way I can even think of for trying to do matches on phone number formats would be the use of regular expressions, and I don't think JAWS supports that.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Friendship. . . Intimacy, untroubled by eros.

         ~ Kim Chernin


moderated Reading phone numbers: Opinions

Mark
 

Are there opinions on how to write phone numbers and extensions in a way that is user-friendly with JAWS?  I can't seem to find a setting in the  JAWS setting center that might do conversions. 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Howdy BZ:

 

Here is the procedure.

 

Hello

 

1.            Ensure that JAWS does not attempt to start itself automatically under any circumstances except for the possibility of logging in to the computer.

A.            Go into JAWS, and navigate to Options > Basics...

B.            Tab to and activate Automatically Start JAWS...

C.            Start JAWS at the Logon screen can be checked or not depending on whether you have to enter a password when turning on or rebooting your system. I myself prefer to use Narrator when performing a logon since it starts a lot faster than JAWS.

D.            Ensure that “Start JAWS after logon for all users” is not checked.

E.            In the Start JAWS After Logon for this user combo box, select the “Never” choice.

2.            Now, find the JAWS shortcut on your Desktop and copy it to the Clipboard.

3.            Press Windows R to bring up the Run dialog, type “shell:startup” without the quotes, and press Enter.

4.            Paste the JAWS shortcut you copied from the Desktop into this folder, then close it with ALT+F4.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder?  My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works.  Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day!  BZ! 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hello Bill:

 

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

 

Kindly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

 

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.

Start jaws for all users is unchecked.

 

 

The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

 

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

 

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

 

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

 

K

 

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

> Hello Kim:

> When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine

> the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

> Thanks.

> Warmly,

> Curtis Chong

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber

> Gardner

> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

> Hi Curtis,

> Jaws does appear in the startup group.

> I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the

> run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."

> Thanks,

> K

> On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:

>> Good morning:

>> 

>> Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a

>> JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task

>> manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

>> 

>> Best,

>> 

>> Curtis Chong

>> 

>> 

>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner

>> <kimbersinbox1963@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi all,

>> 

>> I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with

>> jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are

>> disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more

>> observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

>> 

>> Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to

>> be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580

>> running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.

>> The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

>> 

>> Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically

>> but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options

>> are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

>> 

>> Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I

>> uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I

>> have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the

>> windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there

>> is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

>> 

>> I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

>> 

>> Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup

>> to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the

>> best next step?

>> 

>> Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

>> 

>> Kim

>> 

>> --

>> Kimberly

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Kimberly

>

 

 

--

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Curtis, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin! Could you provide the instructions with respect to copying the jaws 2022 shortcut to the shell:startup folder? My wife kathy and I just got new jbl bluetooth headsets and we've had some issues with speech getting cut off and certainly have used the jaws setting that's supposed to prevent this so definitely will also consider Bill White's solution with silencio but also wanted to try your approach to see how well it works. Sure appreciate your postings and assistance to the list, you have a great day! BZ!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are present. So there is something happening in the startup process that is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine
the combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a
JAWS shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task
manager. see if JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner
<kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are
disappearing when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more
observations and perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580
running windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Bill:

Got it. Thanks.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Curtis. I am referring to an SMA as opposed to the $96 per year subscription.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill:

I am afraid I did not gather that information. Maybe if Kimberly can tell us?

I am not sure what you are referring to when you mention a two-year license. I thought the JAWS Home Annual License was for anywhere from one to five years.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Curtis. I'm glad Kimber's problem is resolved. I would still be interested to know if Kimber is using the one-year license, or the older, 2-year license, since it is mainly the users of the one-year license that have been experiencing the problem which Kimber mentioned.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Van Lant, Robin
 

I don’t think I aver actively turned on the Windows clipboard history, but it seems to work.  Press Windows key V and a list box appears in reverse chronological order of things you’ve copied to it.  I’ve used this a lot lately when I accidentally copy something before I pasted the last item.  I cannot install Ditto my work computer, but this Windows feature is sufficient.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

 

Install Ditto, a neat little utility that stores all previous clipboard clips for easy access and retrieval.  Totally JAWS accessible:

 

https://ditto-cp.sourceforge.io/

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/11/2022 2:07 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hello All,
 
Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?
 
Thanks,
Tim Ford
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill White
 

Hi, Curtis. I am referring to an SMA as opposed to the $96 per year subscription.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Bill:

I am afraid I did not gather that information. Maybe if Kimberly can tell us?

I am not sure what you are referring to when you mention a two-year license. I thought the JAWS Home Annual License was for anywhere from one to five years.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Curtis. I'm glad Kimber's problem is resolved. I would still be interested to know if Kimber is using the one-year license, or the older, 2-year license, since it is mainly the users of the one-year license that have been experiencing the problem which Kimber mentioned.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Truncated speech from JAWS

Paul Filpus
 

Thanks Bill and Curtis! I tried Curtis's solution first, since it was so simple, and it worked! I'll keep Bill's around as well, in case further truncating problems crop up.
Paul Filpus


moderated Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Curtis Chong
 

Bill:

I am afraid I did not gather that information. Maybe if Kimberly can tell us?

I am not sure what you are referring to when you mention a two-year license. I thought the JAWS Home Annual License was for anywhere from one to five years.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Curtis. I'm glad Kimber's problem is resolved. I would still be interested to know if Kimber is using the one-year license, or the older, 2-year license, since it is mainly the users of the one-year license that have been experiencing the problem which Kimber mentioned.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 11:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hello Bill:

Kim's problem was resolved. We disabled all of the JAWS automatic startups and copied the JAWS shortcut into the shell:startup folder. JAWS starts up a little later, but the problem is no longer there.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi, Kimber. May I ask you a question? Are you using the license which allows you to use JAWS from an SMA (Software Maintenance Agreement, or are you using the $96 per year, yearly subscription to JAWS? If you are using the $96 per year subscription, this has been a problem for over a year, and several people have mentioned that JAWS starts in a strange mode when using the yearly license. People have said that their options are limited, or not there at all at startup when using the $96 per year, yearly license.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Here's the status of the boxes that tell jaws what to do on startup:

Start jaws at logon screen is unchecked.
Start jaws for all users is unchecked.


The combo box that tells jaws what to do for this user is confusing
me. When it is set to never, jaws doesn't start automatically. Which
is what I would expect. However, when set to always, jaws starts
automatically regardless of whether or not those first two boxes are
checked or unchecked.

Is that what you would expect to see? Because to me, the status of
that combo box seems to cancel out whatever has been indicated in
those first two boxes.

I'm sorry if this is confusing. But I feel like I'm getting closer to
figuring out what's happening.

As a side note, If I have jaws starting automatically and the options
have disappeared, if I unload jaws then reload by typing jaws2022 at
the run command, everything is fine and all menus and options are
present. So there is something happening in the startup process that
is corrupting jaws. Very weird.

K

On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Hello Kim:

When checking the JAWS automatic startup settings, be sure to examine the
combo box which says what should happen "for this user".

Thanks.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: More on my ongoing problem with jaws 2022

Hi Curtis,

Jaws does appear in the startup group.

I don't know what you mean by, "Try invoking shell:startup with the
run command to see if there is a JAWS shortcut in that folder."


Thanks,
K
On 3/11/22, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Good morning:

Try invoking shell:startup with the run command to see if there is a JAWS
shortcut in that folder. Another thing to check is your Task manager. see
if
JAWS is somewhere shown in the Startup tab.

Best,

Curtis Chong


On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:37 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...>
wrote:

Hi all,

I wrote in a couple of weeks ago regarding a problem I've had with
jaws 2022 in which all the options in the jaws window are disappearing
when I restart my laptop. I now have a few more observations and
perhaps have detected a pattern.

Just to recap briefly. When I install jaws 2022 the install seems to
be successful. But when I restart my laptop (Lenovo model E580 running
windows 10 latest build), all the options in my jaws window disappear.
The only options remaining are exit and about jaws.

Now here's the interesting part. If I do not start jaws automatically
but rather run jaws after the laptop has fully booted up, the options
are there. If I have jaws start automatically the options are gone.

Another strange issue is that jaws will start automatically even if I
uncheck the box that says start jaws automatically. The only way I
have found to start jaws and have the options present is to press the
windows key +R and type jaws2022. This leads me to believe that there
is something in the startup process that is dinging jaws.

I've spoken to FS tech support repeatedly about this problem with no joy.

Here's my next question. How can I see what's going on during startup
to try and determine where the problem is occurring? Is this even the
best next step?

Thanks for reading. All suggestions will be gratefully considered.

Kim

--
Kimberly











--
Kimberly












--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Accessing clipboard texts.

Gerald Levy
 


Install Ditto, a neat little utility that stores all previous clipboard clips for easy access and retrieval.  Totally JAWS accessible:


https://ditto-cp.sourceforge.io/


Gerald



On 3/11/2022 2:07 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hello All,

Is there a JAWS friendly way to access contents of the clipboard, specifically previous items?

Thanks,
Tim Ford








6761 - 6780 of 102557