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moderated Using JAWS with Facebook

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I am having a problem with Facebook.  I would like to add someone as a Facebook friend.  When I first found this person the “add friend,” button was there, but just to be sure it was the right person, as there were several other people by the same name I sent this person a message asking if it was the same person I knew of.  When this person got back to me and confirmed that she was I found her name on Facebook and hit the Enter key on the link her page popped up but now the “add friend,” button is hidden, yet it still is saying that we are not Facebook friends.  How can I uncover this “add friend,” button again?  Is there a way?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Table of Contents in Word document

Steve Nutt
 

But these are external links if they lead to file downloads. Try it with internal links in a Word document, I reckon it won’t work.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 27 January 2022 18:04
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Table of Contents in Word document

 

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:50 PM, Bill White wrote:

I believe you are wrong, when you say that all you need do is to hit Enter on the hyperlink. When in Word, this will edit the link.

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And I believe you are incorrect.  And hitting Enter on a number of links in a document several seconds ago shows that to be so.

I have a document with many links that download various files.  Hitting Enter when on any of them causes the Save dialog for that file to come up, which I'm cancelling.

Hyperlinks are edited by gaining focus and hitting CTRL + K.  Heaven knows how many times I've had to do this, but it's in the thousands by now.
 
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moderated Re: Table of Contents in Word document

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

No, it doesn’t work. If you press enter on a link inside Word, then you will enter a carriage return into the document.

 

The best way I have found is to bring up the elements list with Insert/Caps Lock and F7, then go to the link and press enter.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 26 January 2022 17:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Table of Contents in Word document

 

The use of CTRL + Left Click is only for external hyperlinks, that is, that take you out of the document and open a webpage in a web browser.  When you hover over those, there is actually a pop-up that tells you to hit CTRL + Left Click if you want to open the webpage.  

For ToC hyperlinks, that simply relocate you in the document, "the sighted way" is just left clicking and I'd imagine screen reader way is just activating the link.
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moderated Using JAWS with Facebook

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I am having a problem with Facebook.  I would like to add someone as a Facebook friend.  When I first found this person the “add friend,” button was there, but just to be sure it was the right person, as there were several other people by the same name I sent this person a message asking if it was the same person I knew of.  When this person got back to me and confirmed that she was I found her name on Facebook and hit the Enter key on the link her page popped up but now the “add friend,” button is hidden, yet it still is saying that we are not Facebook friends.  How can I uncover this “add friend,” button again?  Is there a way?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: discord

dennis
 

thanks bill.

On 2/7/2022 5:17 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Dennis. Discord:

 

VoIP communications, instant messaging, videoconferences, content delivery, and social media

Website               discord.com

 

It is a communications app, used by gamers, and by the public in general to send instant messages, and to communicate in chat rooms.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: discord

 

parden me please but what is this?

On 2/7/2022 4:08 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I use it all the time nowadays. Try it; yo u’ll figure it out pretty quick. Works well on all platforms I’ve tried.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: February 7, 2022 12:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discord

 

Discord

 

Does anyone else use discord?

is it accessible?

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

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moderated Re: Dialog of heading list: JAWS versus NVDA

Mark
 

It's not only websites that using headings. ePub is a format for electronic books and I would hope and imagine publishers follow the heading structure better since books lend themselves to obvious nested sections. 


moderated Re: question on Google drive sync to PC tool

 

Robin,

By the way, if you happen to use the Gmail webmail interface, all attachments will be presented with an option to download (as in to local storage on your machine) or to add to Google drive.  If you start using Google Drive to any extent, it's often much quicker to respond to add it to Google Drive as no downloading occurs (immediately, anyway) and it will be sitting on Google Drive whenever you finally decide to directly access it.

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moderated Re: JAWS2022, windows 11, Eudora

meow meow
 

thanks Ann



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From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2022 7:57 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS2022, windows 11, Eudora

Dan Clark, who is a retired JAWS trainer, has an excellent series of lessons on how to manage with windows 11 and JAWS.

https://dsurf.net/windows-11-training/

At 03:23 PM 2/6/2022, you wrote:
Rosie here...
is there a way to go back to window 10 from window 11?

thanks


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From: "Curtis Chong" <chong.curtis@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:59 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS2022, windows 11, Eudora

Greetings:

It is an unfortunate problem. I believe the move to Windows 11 is the reason
for your problem. The fix may take a while.

Curtis

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2022, windows 11, Eudora

I did, although JAWS2022 was running smoothly with Eudora in windows 10.
At 12:22 PM 2/6/2022, you wrote:
Did you try exporting the settings from the older jaws and importing
the settings to the newer one?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:20 PM
Subject: JAWS2022, windows 11, Eudora


After installing windows 11 on my computer, JAWS 2022with Eudora no
longer reliably reads status graphics--unread, sent, etc. turning
graphics to all, I see different graphic numbers for unread
messages, where in windows 10 graphic 621 consistently indicated
unread. When I open an unread graphic, the status graphic number
does not change to indicate the item was read. this happened in an
earlier version of JAWS and was corrected in a subsequent
version. since JAWS no longer supports Eudora,I will just hope the
correction happens with a new JAWS. I have graphics set to
labeled, but I haven't labeled any because they are
inconsistent--graphic 676 preceeds 'read' and 'unread', for example.
Additionally, after accessing the internet, the message list in
Eudora often reads "no selected item", and the only way I can fix
that is to reboot the computer ... or of course use NVDA, which
reads the message list correctly.

Further testing shows JAWS2021 reading Eudora much better.




















moderated Re: discord

Bill White
 

Hi, Dennis. Discord:

 

VoIP communications, instant messaging, videoconferences, content delivery, and social media

Website               discord.com

 

It is a communications app, used by gamers, and by the public in general to send instant messages, and to communicate in chat rooms.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 2:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: discord

 

parden me please but what is this?

On 2/7/2022 4:08 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I use it all the time nowadays. Try it; yo u’ll figure it out pretty quick. Works well on all platforms I’ve tried.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: February 7, 2022 12:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discord

 

Discord

 

Does anyone else use discord?

is it accessible?

 

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

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moderated Re: discord

dennis
 

parden me please but what is this?

On 2/7/2022 4:08 PM, JM Casey wrote:

I use it all the time nowadays. Try it; yo u’ll figure it out pretty quick. Works well on all platforms I’ve tried.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: February 7, 2022 12:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discord

 

Discord

 

Does anyone else use discord?

is it accessible?

 

Justin

 

 

 



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moderated Re: discord

JM Casey
 

I use it all the time nowadays. Try it; yo u’ll figure it out pretty quick. Works well on all platforms I’ve tried.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: February 7, 2022 12:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: discord

 

Discord

 

Does anyone else use discord?

is it accessible?

 

Justin

 

 

 


moderated Re: question on Google drive sync to PC tool

Van Lant, Robin
 

Brian,

You have eased my mind and motivated me to set this up tonight.  Thank you!

Robin

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 1:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question on Google drive sync to PC tool

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Robin,

A couple of quick thoughts in reply:

1.  If you are already used to OneDrive using the PC File Explorer interface, Google Drive will at the very least feel familiar to you.

2.  When I file is shared with you, you have a choice as to whether to add that shared file to your drive or not.  I generally do if it's something I'm expected to edit or maintain in some way.  If it's just something I'm intended to print or file, I just open it and print, or save it locally.  But there is nothing wrong with adding it to your Google Drive as a matter of course.  Different strokes for different folks.

3. You may have up to 4 Google accounts connected to Google Drive on the PC desktop.  As it so happens, I just recently set up all three of my frequently used Google Drive accounts to show up on Google Drive for PC Desktop.  They are shown in the folder tree very much like any other drive is, except they're clearly denoted by the Google Account (first) followed by the words "Google Drive" followed by the drive letter that they are assigned.  That last part is exactly like any other drive.

The only thing I consider kinda weird about Google Drive for PC is that when you open any one of the attached drives, you will always see three things in the drive, only one of which you actually open and interact with, which is the first in my list:
1. My Drive  (when opened this is the actual Google Drive content for the noted account).
2. .file-revisions-by-id
3. .shortcut-targets-by-id

Items 2 & 3 are what I call dot files used by Google Drive itself, and those should just be left alone.

I don't know why this is not set up just to open to "My Drive" for the account the given Google Drive belongs to, but it isn't.  So you'll be opening "My Drive" every time you actually open the drive for a given Google Account.

Hope the above proves useful.  I've been using Google Drive for years for file sharing.
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moderated Re: question on Google drive sync to PC tool

 

Robin,

A couple of quick thoughts in reply:

1.  If you are already used to OneDrive using the PC File Explorer interface, Google Drive will at the very least feel familiar to you.

2.  When I file is shared with you, you have a choice as to whether to add that shared file to your drive or not.  I generally do if it's something I'm expected to edit or maintain in some way.  If it's just something I'm intended to print or file, I just open it and print, or save it locally.  But there is nothing wrong with adding it to your Google Drive as a matter of course.  Different strokes for different folks.

3. You may have up to 4 Google accounts connected to Google Drive on the PC desktop.  As it so happens, I just recently set up all three of my frequently used Google Drive accounts to show up on Google Drive for PC Desktop.  They are shown in the folder tree very much like any other drive is, except they're clearly denoted by the Google Account (first) followed by the words "Google Drive" followed by the drive letter that they are assigned.  That last part is exactly like any other drive.

The only thing I consider kinda weird about Google Drive for PC is that when you open any one of the attached drives, you will always see three things in the drive, only one of which you actually open and interact with, which is the first in my list:
1. My Drive  (when opened this is the actual Google Drive content for the noted account).
2. .file-revisions-by-id
3. .shortcut-targets-by-id

Items 2 & 3 are what I call dot files used by Google Drive itself, and those should just be left alone.

I don't know why this is not set up just to open to "My Drive" for the account the given Google Drive belongs to, but it isn't.  So you'll be opening "My Drive" every time you actually open the drive for a given Google Account.

Hope the above proves useful.  I've been using Google Drive for years for file sharing.
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moderated question on Google drive sync to PC tool

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m working my way through the Mystic Access training on Google Suite, as I’m having to use it for volunteer activities with my kids school.   I’m on the parent teacher group and we have a gmail account and use drive to save budget files, meeting minutes and so on.  The school also uses Google Classroom and will share files with us.   Since my skills with the web-based Google Drive are still challenged, I was excited to learn about a tool from Google that allows us to sync Google Drive with  file explorer so I can manage files from that familiar interface.  From the Mystic Access demo, which is a bit dated (e.g., they are using JAWS 17), the tool will ask me for my Google account information during installation to make the connection. I guess I will enter the parent teacher group account, since I do not use a personal drive account. So, here are my three questions for those of you who use Google.

  • First, Does anyone have any experience with this tool and any cautions?  I use OneDrive at Work, so I’m assuming it will feel the same.
  • Second, and more importantly.  If the school shared a file with me, will those appear in my Drive or can I only access them from a link sent to me ?
  • Finally, if you use this sync tool, can I bring in more than one Google Drive account to this interface?  That is, if I set up the parent teacher account now, then start to use a personal drive account for some reason, can I manage both in the tool?

 

I’m using Windows 10 with JAWS 2022.

 

Thanks for thoughts.   My team has ben gracious at my ineptness with Google, but I’d like to be more self-sufficient.

 

Robin

 



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moderated Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

 

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 01:03 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
This is just to make the point that it’s good to know many ways and appreciate that we may need to accomplish things in different ways based on our context.
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Robin,

We were typing at the same time, and in the end, even with objections I raised, on this we agree completely.  I stand by my position, though, that the actual title of this topic was (and remains) misleading.  That was not by intent, but that's beside the point.  The original tutorial was simply the same thing you do to attach a file to any message being sent, be it new, forward, or reply.
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moderated Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

 

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 12:53 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
It's an Outlook thing Microsoft started doing.
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Several notes:

1. Outlook didn't "start doing" this, or if it did it was in the very distant past.  It's always been that replies do not keep attachments sent on the original message, and for precisely the reasons you (and I, earlier) stated.

2. The actual topic title is misleading.  It's not about "keeping attachments" that came with, but adding attachments (which so happen to be updated versions of what originally came with).  This is absolutely no different than adding attachments to a new message, or even to a forwarded one that already has existing attachments if you need to send more.

3. The use of cloud file sharing, with automatic locking (essentially, it's a file database where, when any single user has the file open for edit, others can only open it read only), has made "revised attachment ping-pong" very largely a thing of the past.  It still gets used on occasion, but large organizations pretty much abandoned that practice, and so have many individual users, with rare exceptions.

There's nothing wrong, at all, with what was proposed at the outset.  If this is how you wish to handle file hand-off for something under revision by multiple parties, go for it.  But, there's nothing new there in terms of adding an attachment.  It's the same process, whether via the "copy to clipboard and insert once focus is in message body" method, or the full keyboard method where you use a browse dialog to find and attach the file.  You're just attaching a file to a message that so happens to be a reply.  You are not keeping any attachment that came with the reply, unless you re-attach it.

 
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moderated Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

Van Lant, Robin
 

Not all companies allow cloud editing of a document. In our financial services company, we have shared network folders  and teams channels, but I may be, for example, asking a colleague to review a document where she and I do not have a shared workspace. We are not permitted to share documents from our OneDrive account due to privacy and regulatory rules.   This is just to make the point that it’s good to know many ways and appreciate that we may need to accomplish things in different ways based on our context.

 

Robin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

 

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On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 10:44 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

In the case you describe here, a revised document, I’d think it constitutes a new item; hence the need to attach it in a reply. I handle such situations the same way as you.

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I certainly used to do so as well.  But not anymore.

These days with cloud storage and file sharing, where locking functionality when a given shared file is actively under edit is almost standard (and definitely is on Google Drive and, I think, OneDrive), I never engage in the I update and return updated copy, you update and return updated update, lather rinse repeat.

On far too many occasions that leads to someone "fumbling the ball" at some point and one (or more) of the previous handoffs not being used as the correct baseline for the next cycle.

There's a reason that things like Teams, Sharepoint, cloud sharing, and the like came into existence.  And they work beautifully when multi-person collaboration on the same items is necessary.

I even love the fact that I can look at the same file on different PCs in my home, but if I have it under active edit on one of them, all I can do is open it read-only on the others.  It protects me from the chaos that can happen from even the same baseline file being edited, but differently, in different locations by the same user.
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moderated Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

Van Lant, Robin
 

It is not a JAWS issue. It's an Outlook thing Microsoft started doing. Another way to reply with attachment is to forward the email instead. If you do Control F to forward and address the email to the person, the attachment will go with it. If you think about it, that makes sense. Unless you have edited the attachment, the person who sent it to you already has a copy. In business, this saves a LOT of server space with larger files being included on replies unnecessarily. I recall my company making an announcement about it when we went to Office 365.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 4:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

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Greetings:

When you reply to an email in Outlook, how is it that JAWS won't let you include an attachment? I fail to understand the problem here. More detail please?

Cordially,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2022 4:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

Okay, I have a follow-up question; when I reply to an email and want to include an attachment Outlook/Jaws won't let me which means that I have to start a whole new message in order to send an attachment that's most likely related to whatever conversation I'm having with a person. I should mention that these are messages that didn't have an attachment previously. Any idea why this happens and if there's anything that I can do to be able to include an attachment in my reply? Using latest versions of Jaws Microsoft 365 and Windows 11.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: February 4, 2022 4:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: In Outlook, Keeping Attachments with a Reply

Greetings:

Everyone who uses Outlook knows that when you reply to an email with a document attached, the document does not go back with the reply. In other words, the attachment is lost.

If you want to reply and keep the attached document in the email, do the following.

First, open the email that has the attached document.

Second, Shift tab to the list of attachments and focus on the document, using the left or right arrow keys.

Third, copy to the clipboard with CTRL+C.

Fourth, press the Reply or Reply-to-all command. While in the body of the message, press CTRL+V. The attachment will be connected to the reply.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong





















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moderated Re: confusion on battary anouncements.

Van Lant, Robin
 

My business laptop battery life is always longer than the laptops I buy for home use, so I'm sure it's just a matter of the quality of the battery in your machine.

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Leonard

Those numbers are very similar to what I get displayed when querying laptops that I have used.
The way we use laptops must be very draining on the battery.
Thus, whenever possible, I run a laptop on electric power.









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moderated Re: Dialog of heading list: JAWS versus NVDA

Van Lant, Robin
 

I haven’t really looked for the heading level filters in the dialog, but that could be interesting.  I am not an NVDA user, so cannot speak to that tree view approach per se.  I could see how this could be preferable to some to get a feel for the structural layout, but I wouldn’t necessarily want to have to expand each heading.  Sometimes I find that page creators are using headings for visual effect and the headings they use may not really indicate structure as we would want. Sometimes I just want to see the full layout in a list to preview the entire content, which is where I would not want to have to expand each level to see this quickly.  So, I guess I’m content with the JAWS method, but would adapt to the NVDA approach if it were in use. 

 

Robin

 

 

 

 

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I think that NDVA's representation of the heading structures as a tree view reflects the nested structure of headings better than JAWS.  JAWS uses a tree view in the regions dialog.  Tree views also allow folding.  However, I just realized, that JAWS heading list dialog has access keys, like alt + 2 to filter just the heading levels 2 in the list box. That's kind of interesting. It makes it easy to just review a level of headings.  I can now see a case why the JAWS way is more user friendly.  Do others use the alt access keys in the heading list dialog to filter and I'm just late to the party?



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