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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Marty Hutchings
 

Morey,  If I remember right and you are the one having trouble editing in a cell in Excel, than you want to uncheck that box that says Allow editing in a cell.  I know that this sounds strange, but it will work.

On 1/17/2022 5:32 PM, Morey Worthington wrote:

Hi Curtis, checked that and it is checked.

Thanks for input.
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moderated Re: File and folder size

Curtis Chong
 

No, this is not a JAWS settings issue. Perhaps we can chat offline.

Curtis Chong
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On Jan 17, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Barbara Sheinbein <sheinbeinb@...> wrote:



Hi Curtis,

 

OK I did as you directed.  I still do not hear the figure for the size.  Is there something I also need to do in the JAWS settings?

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: File and folder size

 

Greetings:

 

Change to the Details View. First, press control space to be sure nothing is selected. Then, press shift f10 function key. Arrow to view submenu, press right arrow, and arrow down to details. Press Enter to pick this view.

 

Best wishes,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Jan 17, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Barbara Sheinbein <sheinbeinb@...> wrote:



Hi Everyone,

 

I know I used to be able to read this, but not now.  I want to know the total size of specific files and also some folders.

 

I have Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.

 

I recall using Windows Explorer for this.  I would go to the file or folder name and right arrow to the size.  When I do this now, all I hear is the word size, but no figure.

 

How to resolve?  Is it an adjustment in Windows 10 or in JAWS?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara

 
moderated Re: File and folder size

Barbara Sheinbein
 

Hi Curtis,

 

OK I did as you directed.  I still do not hear the figure for the size.  Is there something I also need to do in the JAWS settings?

 

Thanks.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: JFW List <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: File and folder size

 

Greetings:

 

Change to the Details View. First, press control space to be sure nothing is selected. Then, press shift f10 function key. Arrow to view submenu, press right arrow, and arrow down to details. Press Enter to pick this view.

 

Best wishes,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Jan 17, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Barbara Sheinbein <sheinbeinb@...> wrote:



Hi Everyone,

 

I know I used to be able to read this, but not now.  I want to know the total size of specific files and also some folders.

 

I have Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.

 

I recall using Windows Explorer for this.  I would go to the file or folder name and right arrow to the size.  When I do this now, all I hear is the word size, but no figure.

 

How to resolve?  Is it an adjustment in Windows 10 or in JAWS?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara

 
moderated Re: File and folder size

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

Change to the Details View. First, press control space to be sure nothing is selected. Then, press shift f10 function key. Arrow to view submenu, press right arrow, and arrow down to details. Press Enter to pick this view.

Best wishes,

Curtis Chong


On Jan 17, 2022, at 7:20 PM, Barbara Sheinbein <sheinbeinb@...> wrote:



Hi Everyone,

 

I know I used to be able to read this, but not now.  I want to know the total size of specific files and also some folders.

 

I have Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.

 

I recall using Windows Explorer for this.  I would go to the file or folder name and right arrow to the size.  When I do this now, all I hear is the word size, but no figure.

 

How to resolve?  Is it an adjustment in Windows 10 or in JAWS?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara

 
moderated File and folder size

Barbara Sheinbein
 

Hi Everyone,

 

I know I used to be able to read this, but not now.  I want to know the total size of specific files and also some folders.

 

I have Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS.

 

I recall using Windows Explorer for this.  I would go to the file or folder name and right arrow to the size.  When I do this now, all I hear is the word size, but no figure.

 

How to resolve?  Is it an adjustment in Windows 10 or in JAWS?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara

 
moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Morey Worthington
 

Hi Curtis, checked that and it is checked.

Thanks for input.

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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Morey:

In Excel, check the Options > Advanced dialog to see if allow editing directly in cells is checked. In extremis this is what I would do barring simply upgrading to the most current version of Excel.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 2:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel for dummies help

Probably have to do that, or other alternative way for me , just use
Jaws 2020 all the time, for now , lol.

Thanks all for input..again.

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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Morey Worthington
 

Probably have to do that, or other alternative way for me , just use Jaws 2020 all the time, for now , lol.

Thanks all for input..again.

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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

David Kingsbury
 

Hi Morey,

You mentioned that you are using Excel 2007. I am pretty sure that is your problem. As recently as Office 2016, reading characters inside Excel often misbehaved in the ways you describe. Upgrading to Office 365 or 2021 would almost certainly solve your problem.

David

David
moderated Excel for Dummies solution

Morey Worthington
 

Hi all.

I went back to Jaws 2018, and Jaws 2020, keep them around for just this type of thing, and both of them work just fine, meaning the numpad keys for selecting text, etc.

Why not working in 2022...HMMMMM..

Will contact Jaws and see what they have to say. Probably something like I have to update Excel to work with the updated Jaws or something like that...whatcha think??

Thanks all for trying to help with my problem.


Morey Worthington
moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

I tried this on my computer, and it is working for me. I am using the latest versions of Office and JAWS running on Windows 10. I can edit the formula by pressing F2 and using the arrow keys to navigate.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel for dummies help

Will give the numlock thing a try.

In a given cell if there is a formula, the jaws/ctr/f2 keystrokes will
read formula, but, again, if try to edit the formula using f2 key,
cannot get it to move to any certain character.


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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Morey Worthington
 

Will give the numlock thing a try.

In a given cell if there is a formula, the jaws/ctr/f2 keystrokes will read formula, but, again, if try to edit the formula using f2 key, cannot get it to move to any certain character.


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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Morey Worthington
 

same thing, meaning no key response at all

I tried using the jaws/1 to get key help and it says move to next character and move back to prior character in both cases, meaning in the arrow keys and on the numpad.

This is really confusing. Might have to call tech tomorrow and maybe they can help.

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moderated Re: Search functionality in Gmail standard view

MAYANK SHARMA
 

Hi Rahul,

I've tried replicating the jaws issue on Chrome and Edge with Jaws 20. I'm consistently finding the search edit  below the heading. Have you come across that with any other screen reader, in case you've tried it? Do check if your Chrome is up to date. 
There's a shortcut to open search edit box using the'/'  key when in focus mode just in case, please do check if that works. 

Kind regards

Mayank

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 1:43 PM Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038@...> wrote:
Hi,

I use Gmail standard view with jaws in edge and chrome. The problem I am facing is that it often says that the search mail/all conversations functionality is unavailable. I am referring to the first option under the 'search' heading. I am forced  to then switch to basic HTML view. Are there ways to consistently use the search function in Gmail standard view?

Warmly,
Rahul



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moderated Re: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

Al Sorrentino
 

Hi Everyone,

 

I would like to thank all of you for this simple way of retrieving a sender’s e-mail.  I knew about the Alt plus 1, 2, 3, etc., but I did not know about the history function using insert and the letter H.  It sure is a fool proof way of getting senders correct e-mail.  You can also use the copy and paste function to really have the sender’s e-mail correct.

 

Thank you for this GREAT tip!!!

 

Al Sorrentino

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2022 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

 

I usually press Alt 1, then Insert Space then H, and I’m in Speech History, with the top line being the Email address. Then you can read it char by char.

 

What would be nice would be if you are in the Email field of outlook it would read it char by char, but it doesn’t. Then, you could press Alt 1 twice to get into the field, and read it char by char.

 

Maybe a suggestion for improvement FS?

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 01 January 2022 00:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

 

Sent from Ashleigh's Fire What if, for example, the speech history doesn't have the email address, though? I wouldn't think you would want tons and tons of drafts in your drafts folder, just to view email addresses but not sending you messages or forward any. I am also asking this question,



On December 13, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:

Have Jaws read the info you want and then use
Insert plus space bar then h will get you into speech history. 

CH

On 12/13/2021 12:00, Albert Cutolo wrote:

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

Is there anyway that I can read an email address?  I’ve tried doing this using the alt key number 1 while in an open message, but I’m not able too arrow through the address Caracter by Caracter, for me too copy it down in braille, so this is why I’m asking. He is someone   who is a volunteer reader, that I’d like too send an  electronic  gift card too for Christmas, as a thank you for taking time out   of his work             schedule    too reading my mail.   

 
moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

Why not use the arrow keys instead? Also, it might help to toggle the num lock function on and then back off.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 11:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel for dummies help

Good Thought but no good. I did max the xcreen, and also restarted Jaws
2022/ but nothing got the numpad 6 key to work or move to the next
character.

One thing that might help, or not, after opening the cell, using the F2
key, pressing the home key, pressing the numpad 5 key does say the first
letter. If I press the delete key on that letter it does bring up the
next letter to delete and so on. I can then insert whatever needed and
press the enter key and all is well.

But sure would sure like the numpad 6 key to highlight the next letter
so that it can then be changed.

HMMMMMM

Thanks for input so far and good thoughts.


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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

John Covici
 

Instead of the numpad key what happens if you use the regular arrow
keys in the shape of a t, not the numpad keys?

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:10:45 -0500,
Morey Worthington wrote:

Good Thought but no good. I did max the xcreen, and also
restarted Jaws 2022/ but nothing got the numpad 6 key to work or
move to the next character.

One thing that might help, or not, after opening the cell, using
the F2 key, pressing the home key, pressing the numpad 5 key does
say the first letter. If I press the delete key on that letter it
does bring up the next letter to delete and so on. I can then
insert whatever needed and press the enter key and all is well.

But sure would sure like the numpad 6 key to highlight the next
letter so that it can then be changed.

HMMMMMM

Thanks for input so far and good thoughts.


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moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Morey Worthington
 

Good Thought but no good. I did max the xcreen, and also restarted Jaws 2022/ but nothing got the numpad 6 key to work or move to the next character.

One thing that might help, or not, after opening the cell, using the F2 key, pressing the home key, pressing the numpad 5 key does say the first letter. If I press the delete key on that letter it does bring up the next letter to delete and so on. I can then insert whatever needed and press the enter key and all is well.

But sure would sure like the numpad 6 key to highlight the next letter so that it can then be changed.

HMMMMMM

Thanks for input so far and good thoughts.


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Morey Worthington
moderated Re: Search functionality in Gmail standard view

Bill White
 

Hi, Rahul. Next time this happens in Standard View, check the following,

 

1. Is your browser maximized?

2. Are other windows closed?

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 12:13 AM
To: main
Subject: Search functionality in Gmail standard view

 

Hi,

 

I use Gmail standard view with jaws in edge and chrome. The problem I am facing is that it often says that the search mail/all conversations functionality is unavailable. I am referring to the first option under the 'search' heading. I am forced  to then switch to basic HTML view. Are there ways to consistently use the search function in Gmail standard view?

 

Warmly,

Rahul

 


 

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University of Oxford
moderated Re: Excel for dummies help

Mario
 

Morey, when I had that kind of problem, I maximized the window by pressing alt+spacebar and then x, or another way is to press Windows+up arrow. I also found that pressing alt+dash maximized, I think it's called, the working area or something similar. give it a try and do write back if these keystrokes helped or not.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Morey Worthington [mailto:worthington@...]
Subject: Excel for dummies help
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2022, 8:48 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Let me change word in my message, I press the numberpad 6 key, not the
F6 key to get to next letter.

Sorry
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