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moderated Re: Jaws And Searches

Curtis Chong
 

Ashley:

 

In that vcase, try the JAWS key with F3.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Searches

 

For me, F3 doesn't seem to repeat or search whenever I do it with jaws plus F.. I don't know why that is.

Sent from Ashleigh's Fire



On December 17, 2021, at 12:40 PM, "Pastor Gil Pries via groups.io" <gilp@...> wrote:

I hope you get your searches okay.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws And Searches

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

For me, F3 doesn't seem to repeat or search whenever I do it with jaws plus F.. I don't know why that is.

Sent from Ashleigh's Fire



On December 17, 2021, at 12:40 PM, "Pastor Gil Pries via groups.io" <gilp@...> wrote:

I hope you get your searches okay.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: JAWS And Windows 11

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

This is good to know. I don't plan on changing to windows 11 just yet, as I don't want to mess up my computer during school semesters.

Sent from Ashleigh's Fire



On December 17, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:

So long as you keep current with periodic updates. Previous versions (I’m not sure what the correct term is) of Windows 10 are being phased out from support.

 

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For my blog and news about my upcoming novel, please visit www.adrianspratt.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS And Windows 11

 

Windows 10 will be supported until October of 2025.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Reordering Linked In Entries

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

Linked In is one of my least favorite websites, in terms of accessibility and usability, but a necessary evil for many people. Does anybody know how to reorder postings on job experience, volunteer activities, etc. It is easy to find the relevant button for reordering a given entry. But nothing happens when I click on it. In theory, activities that I am presently doing reorder themselves to the top, but that is not happening. Googling a question about how to do it tells me to find a red or blue mark and drag it or something completely unhelpful like that. Any ideas on how to do this with a screen reader?

Thanks,

David

 

 

 


moderated Re: Help with Spotify

Paul Faucheux
 

985-318-7723.Hi betsy this is paul. I am a blind user of spotify. What is it u need help with when navigating spotify. I can be reached at pf112781@.... I can also can be reached at

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Binney
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:37 AM
To: JAWS List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Help with Spotify

 

Happy Holidays one and all.

 

I am having trouble navigating Spotify with JAWS 2022.  Does anyone know of a list of keyboard shortcuts or scripts that make the music service more accessible? I have been on the hunt for this for months and I just can’t find anything.  I sent a message to Freedom Scientific technical support but of course no answer back.

 

Any help or suggestions are always welcome.  “Don’t use Spotify” is not an answer I would appreciate.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy R. Binney

 


moderated Re: Outlook.com account question

 

If you allow Outlook to set up your account, that is, you just give it the e-mail address and, when prompted, the password, it will take care of setting up the retrieval protocol without any additional intervention.   And it will always choose the following protocols, in this order, if they are available for a given email service provider:

1. Microsoft Exchange  (most secure and optimized for Outlook)
2. IMAP
3. POP3

I cannot recall the last time I've had any account set up by either Outlook or Thunderbird (which also does automatic configuration) using POP3 protocol.

What the e-mail client "configurators" choose is virtually always best left alone.
--

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moderated Re: Outlook.com account question

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

How would IMAP help you, in your opinion? Can you walk me through how to set it up if it’s better than POP or whatever it is? I’ll need specific details, of course. It might be better for you to do a screen sharing option with me so you can help with this. I absolutely hate messing with settings and stuff and possibly screwing something up totally.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Jeff Christiansen <jeff@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 7:14:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question
 

Hi Ashleigh

 

IMAP is different from POP

These are the protocols used to fetch & sync your email folders

IMAP is more desirable, in my opinion, than POP

Having a “365” account or software, means you have the ability to use the above protocols described

 

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 5:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question

 

What’s IMAP, and is it better than having a 365 account?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question

 

Hi Madison

Check this out


POP is turned off by default
IMAP Settings
Outlook.com does not require Secure Password Authentication (SPA).
IMAP server name outlook.office365.com
IMAP port 993
IMAP encryption method TLS


SMTP server name smtp-mail.outlook.com
SMTP port 587
SMTP encryption method STARTTLS



i  would remove the exchange account setup and use the above with your sign
in credentials

HTH
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com account question

Hi all,
I noticed that my Outlook.com account is an Exchange account, and no I
didn't set it up to be one that's just how it got created. I'm wondering if
the undeliverable email issues that I'm having could be caused by this..
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to change it to an IMAP account?
Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison










 


moderated Re: Outlook.com account question

Jeff Christiansen
 

Hi Ashleigh

 

IMAP is different from POP

These are the protocols used to fetch & sync your email folders

IMAP is more desirable, in my opinion, than POP

Having a “365” account or software, means you have the ability to use the above protocols described

 

  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 5:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question

 

What’s IMAP, and is it better than having a 365 account?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question

 

Hi Madison

Check this out


POP is turned off by default
IMAP Settings
Outlook.com does not require Secure Password Authentication (SPA).
IMAP server name outlook.office365.com
IMAP port 993
IMAP encryption method TLS


SMTP server name smtp-mail.outlook.com
SMTP port 587
SMTP encryption method STARTTLS



i  would remove the exchange account setup and use the above with your sign
in credentials

HTH
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com account question

Hi all,
I noticed that my Outlook.com account is an Exchange account, and no I
didn't set it up to be one that's just how it got created. I'm wondering if
the undeliverable email issues that I'm having could be caused by this..
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to change it to an IMAP account?
Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison










 


moderated Re: Outlook.com account question

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

What’s IMAP, and is it better than having a 365 account?

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com account question

 

Hi Madison

Check this out


POP is turned off by default
IMAP Settings
Outlook.com does not require Secure Password Authentication (SPA).
IMAP server name outlook.office365.com
IMAP port 993
IMAP encryption method TLS


SMTP server name smtp-mail.outlook.com
SMTP port 587
SMTP encryption method STARTTLS



i  would remove the exchange account setup and use the above with your sign
in credentials

HTH
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com account question

Hi all,
I noticed that my Outlook.com account is an Exchange account, and no I
didn't set it up to be one that's just how it got created. I'm wondering if
the undeliverable email issues that I'm having could be caused by this..
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to change it to an IMAP account?
Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison











 


moderated Re: Help with Spotify

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
I use the main Spotify program which is not in the Microsoft store for a few reasons.
First and foremost, the ability to navigate by screen reader shortcuts. I can use next and previous button, for example, or checkbox. Spotify's accessibility has really came a long way.
In order to get Jaws into so called forms mode, simply use Jaws key plus z, which deactivates the virtual cursor and allows you to move as though in forms mode. This would let you, for example, use keyboard shortcuts like control up and down to control the volume. Pressing Jaws key plus Z again will allow you to browse normally, as though on a website.

I hope that helps!
thanks

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:26 AM Jacob <dx@...> wrote:

On Windows 10 I use the Spotify app from the Microsoft Store. You can see the shortcuts for playback etc in the menubar. The shortcuts only works if I turn off virtual PC curosr by JAWS+Z.

Here is a few key strokes:

Play=Space

Volume=CTRL+Down or Up arrow

Change track=CTRL+Left or right arrow

Seek=Shift+Left or Right arrow


Long time ago I try the desktop app but at that time I find the app from Microsoft Store to be much more useful. Maybe it has changed.

Here is the shorcut list from Spotify's site.

https://support.spotify.com/us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts/

I Think the best accessibility for Spotify will be find in the apps for phones and tablets.

Earlier I think there was some scripts available from some one called snowman but I don't remember what they do. As I remember they're not offered for free.

Seems they're no onger at his site but maybe you can try to contact him. The e-mail is listed at the site.

http://www.snowmanradio.com/scripts.html


OZ0TE Jacob


On 2021-12-30 at 08:37 Betsy Binney wrote:

Happy Holidays one and all.

 

I am having trouble navigating Spotify with JAWS 2022.  Does anyone know of a list of keyboard shortcuts or scripts that make the music service more accessible? I have been on the hunt for this for months and I just can’t find anything.  I sent a message to Freedom Scientific technical support but of course no answer back.

 

Any help or suggestions are always welcome.  “Don’t use Spotify” is not an answer I would appreciate.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy R. Binney

 


moderated Re: Help with Spotify

Jacob
 

On Windows 10 I use the Spotify app from the Microsoft Store. You can see the shortcuts for playback etc in the menubar. The shortcuts only works if I turn off virtual PC curosr by JAWS+Z.

Here is a few key strokes:

Play=Space

Volume=CTRL+Down or Up arrow

Change track=CTRL+Left or right arrow

Seek=Shift+Left or Right arrow


Long time ago I try the desktop app but at that time I find the app from Microsoft Store to be much more useful. Maybe it has changed.

Here is the shorcut list from Spotify's site.

https://support.spotify.com/us/article/Keyboard-shortcuts/

I Think the best accessibility for Spotify will be find in the apps for phones and tablets.

Earlier I think there was some scripts available from some one called snowman but I don't remember what they do. As I remember they're not offered for free.

Seems they're no onger at his site but maybe you can try to contact him. The e-mail is listed at the site.

http://www.snowmanradio.com/scripts.html


OZ0TE Jacob


On 2021-12-30 at 08:37 Betsy Binney wrote:

Happy Holidays one and all.

 

I am having trouble navigating Spotify with JAWS 2022.  Does anyone know of a list of keyboard shortcuts or scripts that make the music service more accessible? I have been on the hunt for this for months and I just can’t find anything.  I sent a message to Freedom Scientific technical support but of course no answer back.

 

Any help or suggestions are always welcome.  “Don’t use Spotify” is not an answer I would appreciate.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy R. Binney

 


moderated Re: Help with Spotify

Joseph Machise
 

betsy from Joseph, give them a phone call hope this helps.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 2:37 AM
Subject: Help with Spotify

Happy Holidays one and all.

 

I am having trouble navigating Spotify with JAWS 2022.  Does anyone know of a list of keyboard shortcuts or scripts that make the music service more accessible? I have been on the hunt for this for months and I just can’t find anything.  I sent a message to Freedom Scientific technical support but of course no answer back.

 

Any help or suggestions are always welcome.  “Don’t use Spotify” is not an answer I would appreciate.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy R. Binney

 


moderated Help with Spotify

Betsy Binney
 

Happy Holidays one and all.

 

I am having trouble navigating Spotify with JAWS 2022.  Does anyone know of a list of keyboard shortcuts or scripts that make the music service more accessible? I have been on the hunt for this for months and I just can’t find anything.  I sent a message to Freedom Scientific technical support but of course no answer back.

 

Any help or suggestions are always welcome.  “Don’t use Spotify” is not an answer I would appreciate.

 

Betsy

 

Betsy R. Binney

 


moderated Re: Outlook.com account question

Jeff Christiansen
 

Hi Madison

Check this out


POP is turned off by default
IMAP Settings
Outlook.com does not require Secure Password Authentication (SPA).
IMAP server name outlook.office365.com
IMAP port 993
IMAP encryption method TLS


SMTP server name smtp-mail.outlook.com
SMTP port 587
SMTP encryption method STARTTLS



i would remove the exchange account setup and use the above with your sign
in credentials

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com account question

Hi all,
I noticed that my Outlook.com account is an Exchange account, and no I
didn't set it up to be one that's just how it got created. I'm wondering if
the undeliverable email issues that I'm having could be caused by this..
Does anyone know if it's possible for me to change it to an IMAP account?
Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

Van Lant, Robin
 

To build off what Curtis said, I’ve been experiencing an inconsistency that sounds similar.  I’m just been playing with collapsing the ribbon and using the simplified ribbon option, but neither seem to activate the issue I have.  One thing that seems to get me close to the issue is the auto show/hide ribbon option.  If I turn on the auto hide ribbon, then hit and for the insert ribbon, I cannot just tab to the firs option, I have to hit down arrow.   Apparently, Control F1 is a toggle of this feature in Office.  I suppose I could be accidentally turning it on or off without realizing it.  Another way to get to this options list is to hit alt then shift tab until you hear the Ribbon display options menu, then alt down arrow to open the submenu.  There are a couple settings – show just tabs, show tabs and controls, and auto hide. 

 

Oddly, now that I’ve been playing around with options, I’m not even able to hit Alt S to send this message and I think I went back to standard ribbon view. Strange…

                             

 

Robin

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hello David:

 

May I assume here that you have already determined that the ribbon is not collapsed? I have actually experienced this problem a lot but resolve this by not Wonder tapping Alt but by pressing Alt with H instead to get to the Home Tab. This is one of many inconsistencies that new students find confusing with JAWS<smile>.

Shift tab till you hear the option and alt down arrow to open the menu. 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:37 AM
To: JAWS Discussion List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

 

Hi all,

I am a tech instructor, and from time to time, I get a client whose Alt key acts strangely. That is, when they press the Alt key, the ribbon or dropdown menus do not appear. When I ask them to press Alt in combination with another key (for example, Alt H for the Home tab), it works. But this inconsistency is annoying. All are using up to date versions of JAWS, Windows 10, and MS Office, so outdated software is not the problem. If I remember correctly, we also tried temporarily switching to Narrator, but that didn’t do anything. It also didn’t matter whether we used the left or the right Alt key. In some cases, rebooting the computer worked, at least for some time, in other cases, it didn’t help at all. Any suggestions on how to fix this obnoxious problem?

Thanks,

David

 

 



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moderated Outlook.com account question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I noticed that my Outlook.com account is an Exchange account, and no I didn't
set it up to be one that's just how it got created. I'm wondering if the
undeliverable email issues that I'm having could be caused by this.. Does anyone
know if it's possible for me to change it to an IMAP account? Using latest
versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

Curtis Chong
 

Hello David:

 

May I assume here that you have already determined that the ribbon is not collapsed? I have actually experienced this problem a lot but resolve this by not tapping Alt but by pressing Alt with H instead to get to the Home Tab. This is one of many inconsistencies that new students find confusing with JAWS<smile>.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 9:37 AM
To: JAWS Discussion List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

 

Hi all,

I am a tech instructor, and from time to time, I get a client whose Alt key acts strangely. That is, when they press the Alt key, the ribbon or dropdown menus do not appear. When I ask them to press Alt in combination with another key (for example, Alt H for the Home tab), it works. But this inconsistency is annoying. All are using up to date versions of JAWS, Windows 10, and MS Office, so outdated software is not the problem. If I remember correctly, we also tried temporarily switching to Narrator, but that didn’t do anything. It also didn’t matter whether we used the left or the right Alt key. In some cases, rebooting the computer worked, at least for some time, in other cases, it didn’t help at all. Any suggestions on how to fix this obnoxious problem?

Thanks,

David

 

 


moderated Re: Alt Key Not Working for Accessing Menus

Udo Egner-Walter
 

Hi David, 

First thing I would try is to shutdown JAWS and pressing the Alt key to find out if JAWS causes this problem. Maybe there's a sighted person around to check this or your client restarts JAWS immediately after pressing the Alt key in office so JAWS can detect if the Ribbons are activated. Another possibility if you can't find sighted help is to make a screenshot after pressing the Alt key. 

If this is a JAWS problem I would activate the alternate user by pressing JAWS+Space then Z (this is the shortcut in Germany I hope it's the same on English versions). This temporally sets back the settings to find out if a settings causes this problem. You can press the shortcut again to get back to the user's settings. 

General questions: 

Do you know if the ribbons are visible on screen? 
Do you know which apps are running in the background (anti-virus apps or similar)? 
Is it possible to test the scenario with another screenreader like NVDA? 

Hope this helps a little.. 

Good luck in finding the problem
Udo 



Am 29.12.2021 um 17:37 schrieb David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...>:

Hi all,

I am a tech instructor, and from time to time, I get a client whose Alt key acts strangely. That is, when they press the Alt key, the ribbon or dropdown menus do not appear. When I ask them to press Alt in combination with another key (for example, Alt H for the Home tab), it works. But this inconsistency is annoying. All are using up to date versions of JAWS, Windows 10, and MS Office, so outdated software is not the problem. If I remember correctly, we also tried temporarily switching to Narrator, but that didn’t do anything. It also didn’t matter whether we used the left or the right Alt key. In some cases, rebooting the computer worked, at least for some time, in other cases, it didn’t help at all. Any suggestions on how to fix this obnoxious problem?

Thanks,

David

 

 



moderated Re: Employment with the Federal Government?

Brian Zolo
 

Hey there, Claudia, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio, feel free to call me BZ, grin!  I just retired from the departmetn of defense after 35 years of service.  It all depdns on what agency you work for and how seriously they take reasonable accomodation.  I first started out with the defense logistics agency and they now do have an excellent section 508 program and a section 508 help desk.  They’ve learned a lesson as it took a class action suit from blind employees but they learned a positive lesson from that and now have a great program.  I then switched to the defense information systems agency in 1999 and my last year of employment with them I actually worked in their reasonable accomodation division.  I’m a firm believer in accentuating the positive and always tried to approach them in a positive manner but when the rubber met the road, the defense information systems agency didn’t want to spend the money necessary to be fully section 508 compliant.  I certainly was blessed to work with some awesome folks but in my exit interview before retirement, I told my supervisor that there was far too much we can’t in disa.  So your mileage will vary depending upon what federal agency you work for.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance, have a great day!  BZ! 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Employment with the Federal Government?

 

Hello All,

 

Is anyone who is totally blind currently employed, with the federal government?

If so, could I reach out with some questions related to JAWS and accessibility of the government data bases?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 


moderated Re: Employment with the Federal Government?

Kane Brolin
 

On 12/29/21, Claudia <claudiadr2013@...> wrote:
Is anyone who is totally blind currently employed, with the federal
government?
Reach out to Ronza Othman: ROthmanJD@.... She seems to have a
lot of experience relevant to your questions. As recently as 2019,
Ronza was working as an attorney for the federal Department of Health
and Human Services. She is chair of the NFB Blind Federal Employment
Committee and as president of the Maryland State Affiliate in the
National Federation of the Blind. Maryland arguably is the largest and
most influential state affiliate in the Federation. I do not know
Ronza well on a personal level, but she is quite articulate and seems
to be very accomplished in her field. She also seems quite willing
and able to help other blind folks who are seeking or trying to
navigate federal employment.

To join the e-mail list that is native to the Blind Federal Employment
Committee, visit
https://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-federal-employment-committee_nfbnet.org.

I hope this helps.

-Kane

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