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moderated Re: Buying a laptop

David Goldfield
 

If having a numeric keypad on your laptop’s keyboard is important to you I’d recommend two things. First, look at the description of the laptop on the page since it might mention that a number pad is included. If it doesn’t I would send a link to a sighted person to ask if they see a number pad on the keyboard.

 

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Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

 

I, like others, don't use the numpad. In fact, at home where I use a bluetooth keyboard, I still use laptop layout, but that's just my preference. 

Anyway, you have two options. If you never travel with your laptop, then I would go get a keyboard that you like. Try several and see which one fits you best. If you do travel with your laptop, then get an external numpad. That will fit in a laptop bag and shouldn't take up much room.


moderated Re: new jaws program

David Goldfield
 

It does appear that the download links for JAWS are not available on the FS Web site including the offline installer. I'm sure it's a temporary glitch but I'll inform them via their @FreedomSci handle on Twitter.


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 9:02 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: new jaws program

Hello All-


I just visited the JAWS website and frankly was unable to download the newest JAW installer for a new windows 11 computer...can someone help here?  Thanks.

S

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moderated Re: new jaws program

Mario
 

FS is experiencing technical difficulties with their server that handles file downloads.

-------- Original Message --------
From: G. Gray [mailto:geogray@...]
Subject: new jaws program
Date: Thursday, December 23, 2021, 9:02 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Hello All-


I just visited the JAWS website and frankly was unable to download the
newest JAW installer for a new windows 11 computer...can someone help
here?  Thanks.

S


moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Phillip Gross
 

I, like others, don't use the numpad. In fact, at home where I use a bluetooth keyboard, I still use laptop layout, but that's just my preference. 

Anyway, you have two options. If you never travel with your laptop, then I would go get a keyboard that you like. Try several and see which one fits you best. If you do travel with your laptop, then get an external numpad. That will fit in a laptop bag and shouldn't take up much room.


moderated new jaws program

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


I just visited the JAWS website and frankly was unable to download the newest JAW installer for a new windows 11 computer...can someone help here?  Thanks.

S

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moderated Re: email client question

 

Hello Tom, if you go to the groups.io website, and login to the website, and then go and find the group that you want, and click on manage subscription. There is a button that says leave group. Perhaps that would possibly be easier for you. If you need more instructions on working the website please feel free to reach out.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 11:03 PM, bushyx008@... wrote:

Hi,
If Madison uses an Outlook.com account and hopes things will improve under Thunderbird then she may be disappointed.

Outlook 2013,using outlook.com, gave me many problems so I changed the email client to Thunderbird but this was not without its problems either.

Currently,groups.io is returning all my outlook.com based messages sent to the two lists which use groups.io and has been doing so for the past month or more. The messages are returned as undeliverable.

I have had to switch to a different email account while using Thunderbird

Now I am having a problem unsubscribing from the listsbecause of the problem with Outlook.com and groups.io.

Anyone got an address for groups.io where it will be possible to unsubscribe?

Thanks
Tom



On 23/12/2021 12:04 pm, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Ken. Madison knows she has Outlook. It's not working properly for her,
so she's contemplating the differences between Thunderbird and Outlook.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken
Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email client question
Good evening.
If you have Office365 then you already have Outlook!
HTH,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: email client question
Hi all,
I got to wondering, what are the differences and similarities between
Outlook and Thunderbird in terms of keystrokes, using them with Jaws etc.? I
know the big one, that Thunderbird is free and Outlook isn't. I currently
use Office 365, but I've heard people talking about Thunderbird and so I got
curious. If it's pretty similar and if there wouldn't be much of a learning
curve then I might think about trying it especially if it would solve the
issue with my Outlook.com account. Using  latest versions of Jaws and
Windows 10. Look forward to any info that anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison




moderated Re: email client question

bushyx008@...
 

Hi,
If Madison uses an Outlook.com account and hopes things will improve under Thunderbird then she may be disappointed.

Outlook 2013,using outlook.com, gave me many problems so I changed the email client to Thunderbird but this was not without its problems either.

Currently,groups.io is returning all my outlook.com based messages sent to the two lists which use groups.io and has been doing so for the past month or more. The messages are returned as undeliverable.

I have had to switch to a different email account while using Thunderbird

Now I am having a problem unsubscribing from the listsbecause of the problem with Outlook.com and groups.io.

Anyone got an address for groups.io where it will be possible to unsubscribe?

Thanks
Tom

On 23/12/2021 12:04 pm, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Ken. Madison knows she has Outlook. It's not working properly for her,
so she's contemplating the differences between Thunderbird and Outlook.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken
Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email client question
Good evening.
If you have Office365 then you already have Outlook!
HTH,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: email client question
Hi all,
I got to wondering, what are the differences and similarities between
Outlook and Thunderbird in terms of keystrokes, using them with Jaws etc.? I
know the big one, that Thunderbird is free and Outlook isn't. I currently
use Office 365, but I've heard people talking about Thunderbird and so I got
curious. If it's pretty similar and if there wouldn't be much of a learning
curve then I might think about trying it especially if it would solve the
issue with my Outlook.com account. Using latest versions of Jaws and
Windows 10. Look forward to any info that anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: email client question

Bill White
 

Hi, Ken. Madison knows she has Outlook. It's not working properly for her,
so she's contemplating the differences between Thunderbird and Outlook.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken
Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 5:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: email client question

Good evening.
If you have Office365 then you already have Outlook!
HTH,
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: email client question

Hi all,
I got to wondering, what are the differences and similarities between
Outlook and Thunderbird in terms of keystrokes, using them with Jaws etc.? I
know the big one, that Thunderbird is free and Outlook isn't. I currently
use Office 365, but I've heard people talking about Thunderbird and so I got
curious. If it's pretty similar and if there wouldn't be much of a learning
curve then I might think about trying it especially if it would solve the
issue with my Outlook.com account. Using latest versions of Jaws and
Windows 10. Look forward to any info that anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: email client question

Ken Chernack
 

Good evening.
If you have Office365 then you already have Outlook!
HTH,
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: email client question

Hi all,
I got to wondering, what are the differences and similarities between
Outlook and Thunderbird in terms of keystrokes, using them with Jaws etc.? I
know the big one, that Thunderbird is free and Outlook isn't. I currently
use Office 365, but I've heard people talking about Thunderbird and so I got
curious. If it's pretty similar and if there wouldn't be much of a learning
curve then I might think about trying it especially if it would solve the
issue with my Outlook.com account. Using latest versions of Jaws and
Windows 10. Look forward to any info that anyone can provide me!! Thanks
Madison


moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Zachary Morris
 

Hello,
I typically don’t find myself using a laptopwith a numpad, or using a numpad in general. There have been a few times where I wished I had a numpad, but again, that’s few and far between. Currently, I use a mac, so I don’t have a numpad regardless, and my previous windows machines never had numpads on them. I still need to get slightly better at using the number row, since I’m still very slow with it, but still, all things considered, they’re usually not needed. I’ve always preferred laptop layouts, no matter which screen reader I used.
Regards,
Zach
Sent from my MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2020)

On Dec 22, 2021, at 17:39, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

I haven't specifically relied on the numpad in a very, very long time.
There are certainly cases in which it is warranted, and for that I would simply get a USB numpad which by all accounts would work far nicer and alleviate the need to look for a laptop with one.
This is just my personal opinion, however I can safely say the lack of a numpad really hasn't negatively effected me in daily use. Your mileage may vary however.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 5:30 PM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
On my next purchase, I'll skip the numpad for this reason. I was not ready to give it up last time, which pushed me to a 17-inch laptop and raised the cost. I think I could have gotten a more powerful computer for the same price if I'd gone with a 14 or 15 inch and just plugged in a keyboard. Oh, and the laptop was also touchscreen, which seemed cool at the time, but is just not worth it for me. Couldn't figure out how to use it with JAWS on, even for a quick button click when a sighted person is helping me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

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To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard
















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moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Tyler Wood
 

I haven't specifically relied on the numpad in a very, very long time.
There are certainly cases in which it is warranted, and for that I would simply get a USB numpad which by all accounts would work far nicer and alleviate the need to look for a laptop with one.
This is just my personal opinion, however I can safely say the lack of a numpad really hasn't negatively effected me in daily use. Your mileage may vary however.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 5:30 PM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
On my next purchase, I'll skip the numpad for this reason.  I was not ready to give it up last time, which pushed me to a 17-inch laptop and raised the cost. I think I could have gotten a more powerful computer for the same price if I'd gone with a 14 or 15 inch and just plugged in a keyboard.   Oh, and the laptop was also touchscreen, which seemed cool at the time, but is just not worth it for me. Couldn't figure out how to use it with JAWS on, even for a quick button click when a sighted person is helping me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.


To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
>
> Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
> That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
> laptops have a num pad.
>
>> On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
>> Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the  BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!
>>
>> Bonnie Vegiard
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>












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moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Van Lant, Robin
 

On my next purchase, I'll skip the numpad for this reason. I was not ready to give it up last time, which pushed me to a 17-inch laptop and raised the cost. I think I could have gotten a more powerful computer for the same price if I'd gone with a 14 or 15 inch and just plugged in a keyboard. Oh, and the laptop was also touchscreen, which seemed cool at the time, but is just not worth it for me. Couldn't figure out how to use it with JAWS on, even for a quick button click when a sighted person is helping me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

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To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard
















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moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Nancy Hill
 

I use a separate keyboard for my Lenovo.  When I called JFW to ask how to use jaws without a numpad, the technical person I talked with told me to get an external keyboard with numpad on it...Easy peasy ever since.


Good Luck!

nancy

On 12/22/2021 4:50 PM, David Diamond wrote:
To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard











moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Bonnie Vegiard
 

I guess then I could keep the laptop I bought last year and just add the NUM pad. Silly me, I really did not think of that.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:50 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:

To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard














moderated Re: Buying a laptop

David Diamond
 

To avoid that problem, I just bought a USB or wireless keyboard and either paired it or plugged it in to the laptop. Trust me it saves on a lot of grief and wondering if the laptop comes with a numpad or not. Naturally too, it gives one more buying power, more buying choices.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bonnie Vegiard
Sent: December 22, 2021 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Buying a laptop

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard






moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Bonnie Vegiard
 

That helps, thanks.

On Dec 22, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard






moderated Re: Buying a laptop

Don H
 

Usually you need to purchase a 15 or 17 inch laptop to get a num pad.
That holds true for most HP and Lenovo models however very few Dell
laptops have a num pad.

On 12/22/2021 3:07 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard



moderated Buying a laptop

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Hi everyone. I thought I had someone to help me buy a new laptop, but that fell through. A year ago I got a Lenovo, but it turned out not to have a separate number pad and I find I just cannot make the laptop configuration work with jaws. I know others can do it, but I just want that separate number pet. When I’m online though, it’s very difficult to figure out if the computer has that separate number pad. Also, the one I got a year ago had to have the BIOS altered so that I could install fusion. How do I figure out if I’ve got a laptop that will work out of the box that has a separate number pad? Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

Bonnie Vegiard


moderated email client question

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I got to wondering, what are the differences and similarities between Outlook
and Thunderbird in terms of keystrokes, using them with Jaws etc.? I know the
big one, that Thunderbird is free and Outlook isn't. I currently use Office 365,
but I've heard people talking about Thunderbird and so I got curious. If it's
pretty similar and if there wouldn't be much of a learning curve then I might
think about trying it especially if it would solve the issue with my Outlook.com
account. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Look forward to any info
that anyone can provide me!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: perplexing punctuation problem

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Orlando

I've got 194, too. Have you tried using the "Restore Defaults" button in the
Customise Punctuation dialog box?

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Orlando Enrique
Fiol via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: perplexing punctuation problem

Merry Christmas, y'all.
I'm experiencing a perplexing punctuation problem with JAWS 2022 and Windows
10. My Customize Punctuation list contains only 72 entries, but my girl's
contains 194. In attempts to repopulate my punctuation list, I've deleted
all .sibil files, renamed my Settings directory and started from scratch,
uninstalled and reinstalled JAWS. The only time when my punctuation list
reaches 194 entries is when I delete/rename my settings directory and start
over. That only lasts until I restart JAWS; then, the list returns to only
72 items.
Can any of you fantastic folks check your punctuation lists to see if they
contain 72 or 194 entries? Then, if anyone's list indeed contains 194
entries for different symbols, how can I match that?


Thanks,
Orlando

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