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moderated Hello

Pastor Gil Pries <gilp@...>
 

Hello,

I decided to resubscribe to this group.

 

Pastor Gil


moderated Re: Jaws F3 find command

David Kingsbury
 

If I understand the question correctly, simply type the text of a new search in the edit field. There is no need to clear it.


moderated Re: System Mechanic

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

I’m with you here, I hate any of these so-called PC Health apps.

 

All the best


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 16 December 2021 16:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Mechanic

 

If you are within a return window and can get the cost refunded, that's precisely what I'd do.

As someone who is a PC tech for part of my living, I have a strong dislike for this particular software.  And it's not because it stops me from getting business, but because it not infrequently screws things up for those who use it.  It's on the "uninstall immediately" list when I see it on a computer if the owner consents, and it's on a lot of techs' uninstall immediately lists.

The choice, of course, is yours.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: System Mechanic

clarence carter
 

Thanks! I will try that when I re-install it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 10:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: System Mechanic

 

Hi Clarence,

Did you try turning on the Jaws touch cursor?

I have often found that when things aren't identified, I can access them with the Jaws touch cursor.

To activate it, press shift + PC cursor.

To turn it off, double tap the PC cursor.

You navigate with the four arrow keys.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:12 PM

Subject: System Mechanic

 

I recently purchased the software System Mechanic. It is a package offered by AOL for cleaning up your hard drive. 

I downloaded it and discovered that JAWS was not able to identify the buttons, or the controls on the application. 

Has anyone used System Mechanic, and how did you get JAWS to interact with the controls. 

I have not contacted the manufacturer, because I think that they would not even know what I am talking about. 

I have uninstalled the software pending a resolution to this issue. 

I am considering having a sighted person share the screen and operate the system for me. I don't really want to do that. So, any help would be appreciated.


moderated Re: Today's JAWS2022.2112.24 Update Download Link + What's New

Phillip Gross
 

Just out of curiosity, I wonder why it reminds a user of the Sound Splitter in Zoom, Skype, or teams but not Webex? It's not a big deal. It's easy enough to turn on and off, but it just struck me as odd.


moderated problems moving around in Outlook

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I just upgraded to the latest version of Jaws and now I'm having issues moving
around in Outlook, when I delete a message Jaws doesn't move to the next one.
Any idea what I can do to fix this? Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365
and Windows 10. Thanks for any help that any of you can provide,
Madison


moderated Today's JAWS2022.2112.24 Update Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
Below is the direct download link for today's JAWS2022 update + what's new in this release.
 
32 & 64 bit download link:
 
 
What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2022.2112.24 (December 2021)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the November 2021 release and the December 2021 update.
 
To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.
You must be logged on as an administrator to install this software.
 
Show the Clock Right On Your Braille Display
 
If you use a braille display that offers status cells, JAWS and Fusion can now show the time from the system clock in the status cells of your braille
display. You can even choose between 12 or 24 hour time as well as display either hours and minutes or minutes and seconds and the time will automatically
update. Having a running clock right on the braille display can be helpful when you are giving a presentation or you need to talk until you reach a specific
time, enabling you to quickly check the time similar to a user glancing at the on screen clock.
 
To toggle the clock display in the status cells on or off, press INSERT+SHIFT+F12, or if using a Focus braille display, LEFT SHIFT+RIGHT SHIFT+DOTS 1-2-3.
You can also use the Show time in status cells check box in Settings Center to toggle this feature. If your status cells are disabled, turning this feature
on also temporarily enables them until you turn it off. Turning on or off the clock display affects all applications.
 
To change how the time is displayed, open Settings Center, search for "clock," and use the following options:
 
list of 2 items
• Select or clear the 24 Hour Format check box to display the clock using either 24 hour or 12 hour time. For English, the default is to show 12 hour time,
however, this may vary depending on the active JAWS language.
• Use the Time Format group of radio buttons to change the clock display between hours and minutes or minutes and seconds. The default is hours and minutes.
list end
 
Both settings can be configured for specific applications. For example, you might want to change the time format to minutes and seconds in one application,
but leave it on hours and minutes everywhere else.
 
If you prefer not to continuously show the clock, pressing a Cursor Router over the status cells area on most displays will briefly show the time as a
flash message and then return to what is currently being displayed. Alternatively, if the clock is currently being shown, pressing a Cursor Router over
a status cell causes what would normally be displayed to be briefly shown as a flash message.
 
Note: On certain braille displays, the cursor routers and status cells may have a unique function, which could impact this feature working completely on
that display.
 
Other Changes
list of 16 items
• When launching Teams, Zoom, or Skype, where it is beneficial to separate JAWS speech and audio in a call or meeting, JAWS or Fusion now displays a dialog
box offering a quick tip on using the Sound Splitter feature. There is a check box in that dialog you can select to avoid seeing this reminder in the future.
• The Audio Ducking feature, which lowers the volume of other programs while JAWS is speaking, is now unavailable if JAWS has been routed to the left or
right speaker using Sound Splitter.
• If you are focused on a link in an email message or web page that you are not sure about, you can now say a command like "Hey Sharky, Tell Me the Address"
to quickly find out where the link is going.
• Addressed a reported issue in Word where JAWS was not indicating the word count status in a document when pressing INSERT+PAGE DOWN.
• Addressed reported issues where JAWS was not reading the Clipboard History (WINDOWS+V) or the Emoji panel (WINDOWS+PERIOD) in Windows 11.
• In Google Sheets, resolved an issue where JAWS was announcing the previous cell along with the current cell when using table navigation commands (ALT+CTRL+ARROW
keys).
• Added a new Quick Settings option for Outlook 365 for toggling the sounds heard when the auto-complete list opens or closes when typing in message header
fields like To or CC.
• When using JAWS on Citrix, improved performance with navigating Excel spreadsheets, and resolved an issue with Say All not working correctly in long
documents.
• JAWS now says "selection deleted" when pressing DELETE on a selected block of text.
• After deleting a line in Word, resolved a reported issue where JAWS would only read the first letter of each line while navigating.
• Resolved an issue in Firefox where JAWS was announcing an extra item when tabbing into a radio button group.
• Addressed a reported issue where JAWS would continue to say "star" when pressing BACKSPACE in an empty login password field.
• When entering text into Word or an Outlook message in a language other than English, addressed an issue where JAWS was reading as if there were no spaces
between words. This was observed with several international languages.
• When pressing CTRL+ENTER in Chrome to open a link in a new tab and you then used CTRL+TAB to switch to it, resolved an issue where JAWS would continue
reading the previous page instead of the new page that gained focus.
• In Google Chat, added the ability to press CTRL+UP ARROW to display the most recent message from the chat history in the Chat edit field. This functionality
will be available in an update to Google Chat coming soon.
• JAWS and Fusion users will now have limited access to Windows Terminal/PowerShell. The December update has some of this working now and we will continue
to expand and improve the support for this with upcoming releases.
list end
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Labling function keys

Jim
 

Members
My system Windows 7 running Jaws 2020.
In Thunderbird the F5 is the hot key to get mail. How can I get Jaws to
echo getting mail when this key is pressed?
Thanks
Jim


moderated Re: Jaws F3 find command

Jim
 

Thanks, makes sense now.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws F3 find command

Hi, Jim. Rather than using F3 to perform a search, use JAWS key plus F to
perform the initial search. Use F3 to repeat the search. If you want your
initial search criteria to be cleared, use JAWS key plus F, followed by a
new search string.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 4:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws F3 find command

Members
My system Jaws 2020 Windows 7
I hit the f3 function key and type in text to find. How do I clear this
search feature as when I hit f3 a second time Jaws says search not found. I
can restart Jaws and clear this edit field.
Thanks
Jim


moderated Re: Jaws F3 find command

Bill White
 

Hi, Jim. Rather than using F3 to perform a search, use JAWS key plus F to
perform the initial search. Use F3 to repeat the search. If you want your
initial search criteria to be cleared, use JAWS key plus F, followed by a
new search string.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 4:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws F3 find command

Members
My system Jaws 2020 Windows 7
I hit the f3 function key and type in text to find. How do I clear this
search feature as when I hit f3 a second time Jaws says search not found. I
can restart Jaws and clear this edit field.
Thanks
Jim


moderated Re: Jaws F3 find command

Soronel Haetir
 

Usually you use either jaws+f3 or ctrl+f3 to set an initial search and
f3 to repeat the current search.

On 12/16/21, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis@...> wrote:
Jim:

I am at a loss here. What seems to be the problem? Can you provide more
information please?

Kindly,

Curtis Chong



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 5:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws F3 find command

Members
My system Jaws 2020 Windows 7
I hit the f3 function key and type in text to find. How do I clear this
search feature as when I hit f3 a second time Jaws says search not found. I
can restart Jaws and clear this edit field.
Thanks
Jim












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soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: Jaws F3 find command

Curtis Chong
 

Jim:

I am at a loss here. What seems to be the problem? Can you provide more
information please?

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 5:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws F3 find command

Members
My system Jaws 2020 Windows 7
I hit the f3 function key and type in text to find. How do I clear this
search feature as when I hit f3 a second time Jaws says search not found. I
can restart Jaws and clear this edit field.
Thanks
Jim


moderated Jaws F3 find command

Jim
 

Members
My system Jaws 2020 Windows 7
I hit the f3 function key and type in text to find. How do I clear this
search feature as when I hit f3 a second time Jaws says search not found. I
can restart Jaws and clear this edit field.
Thanks
Jim


moderated Re: a couple of JAWS and zoom questions

Bill White
 

Hi again, Cynthia. A correction to my last message regarding enabling and disabling alerts in Zoom. F9 is not a toggle. It only tells you if alerts are enabled or disabled. To toggle this function, press ALT plus WINDOWS KEY plus S.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 5:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a couple of JAWS and zoom questions

 

Hello All,

 

I have noticed a couple of changes in what JAWS is speaking when in zoom – I wonder if anyone has found a solution? I am using the most up to date version of zoom, the current JAWS 2021 (haven’t upgraded yet), and windows 10 on my Dell XPS laptop.

 

  1. Recently, when I go into the participant list in a meeting, JAWS reads something like  “To move to an item press the arrow keys” before saying the participant name. It is incredibly annoying, and it just keeps saying that as I arrow through the list.
  2. It has also stopped letting me know when someone has entered the waiting room or raised their hand. If I have navigated away from the zoom meeting and am in, for example, Outlook, it will tell me someone has been put in the waiting room. If I am in the meeting, it tells me nothing.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: a couple of JAWS and zoom questions

Bill White
 

Hi, Cynthia. In regard to your first question,

 

1. Recently, when I go into the participant list in a meeting, JAWS reads something like  “To move to an item press the arrow keys” before saying the participant name. It is incredibly annoying, and it just keeps saying that as I arrow through the list.

 

To correct this problem, you will need to enter JAWS Options, by pressing JAWS Key plus J, then enter JAWS Options>Basic.

Change the first option from,

Tutor Messages Announce menu and control help radio button‑ checked‑

to,

Tutor Messages Turn off menu and control help radio button‑ checked‑

 

As to your second question,

 

2. It has also stopped letting me know when someone has entered the waiting room or raised their hand. If I have navigated away from the zoom meeting and am in, for example, Outlook, it will tell me someone has been put in the waiting room. If I am in the meeting, it tells me nothing.

 

While in the Zoom Window labelled, Zoom Meeting, press CONTROL plus F9 (Function key 9), to make sure alerts and chat messages are enabled.

You can also accomplish the same thing by pressing ALT plus WINDOWS KEY plus S. These keystrokes are both toggles.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 5:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: a couple of JAWS and zoom questions

 

Hello All,

 

I have noticed a couple of changes in what JAWS is speaking when in zoom – I wonder if anyone has found a solution? I am using the most up to date version of zoom, the current JAWS 2021 (haven’t upgraded yet), and windows 10 on my Dell XPS laptop.

 

  1. Recently, when I go into the participant list in a meeting, JAWS reads something like  “To move to an item press the arrow keys” before saying the participant name. It is incredibly annoying, and it just keeps saying that as I arrow through the list.
  2. It has also stopped letting me know when someone has entered the waiting room or raised their hand. If I have navigated away from the zoom meeting and am in, for example, Outlook, it will tell me someone has been put in the waiting room. If I am in the meeting, it tells me nothing.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...>
 

See now, it sounds like you are using an expired account.  When the subscription is not kept up, you can receive messages but can’t send or reply to them.  At least that is my understanding. I thought my sister paid for office 365 years ago and a year later I couldn’t send or reply to any messages I received.  I was told it was because my annual subscription had run out.  Since then I renew it every year.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 15, 2021 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

I don’t keep myself logged in to any accounts. If I ignore the sign-in message then I can’t send messages, but I can still receive them. Generally I’m trying to reply to a message, but not always.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: December 15, 2021 6:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Madison,

 

By default, I don’t know not having an Outlook.com account.

Security is a good possibility but unsure.

What exactly are you sending when you are required to sign in? an attachment of some sort? Or, mass-mailing? Or, none of these?

 

If you were to ignore the sign-in prompt what happens?

Do you keep yourself logged into an Office or Microsoft account, is this what is prompting you to sign-in?

Sorry, Madison, I don’t have more on troubleshooting this beyond the above.

Is JAWS reading everything for you in the App and online?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 2:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Madison, just sign into your outlook.com account.  As mentioned earlier it is just a security thing that now and then, mostly then, LOL, we have to do.  Is it frustrating and even annoying at times?  Absolutely.  In some ways it is an offshoot of the COVID 19 virus.  People are board so find ways of relieving their boredom. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: December 14, 2021 10:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

So you mean log into my Outlook.com account and check things out? I don’t have any filters set up, could’ve any been set up by default?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: December 14, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Not sure if there was a useful answer, but this may require a web log on and a check of settings from there regarding any filters or privileges that need setting or un-selecting.

I do not use this type account but would be interested in the resolve.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 6:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Im not surprised you are being blocked, when you continuously send the same message to multiple email addresses

 

What do you think people are going to do when you insist on spamming the same  message all over the place???

 

Yes, Thats right, mark as junk!

 

So change your emailing practices if you dont want to be annoying

 

From: Madison Martin
Sent: 12 December 2021 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Hi all,

About two months ago I created an Outlook.com email account because I was tired

of the email account that I have with our ISP (which is the account that I'm

sending this message from) either blocking messages or marking messages that

aren't junk as junk even though I've marked them as not junk so many times. I

hate worrying about whether or not I'll receive a message, which is why I

decided to create an Outlook.com account. Anyway, now for my issue/question,

with my Outlook.com account sometimes it'd let me send messages and other times

they wouldn't go through and then my account would get locked because they

thought I was doing something bad when I wasn't. The last time this happened I

got a message telling me to sign into my account, but I've been avoiding doing

this for fear that I'm just going to keep having the same issue which I really

don't want to continue to have to deal with. I've called the MS Disability

Answer Desk twice regarding this, and they've been able to unlock my account but

both times they haven't told me why this happens or if there's anything that I

can do to prevent this from happening in the future. So for anyone who has or

has had an Outlook.com account have you ever had this issue? If so, any idea

what I can do to  prevent this from happening again? If no one else has had this

issue then what did I do wrong? If anyone else has ideas please share them also.

I really don't want to get rid of my account; and I really want to have all of

my emails going to one address as checking two inboxes is annoying. I hate

accessing mail on the web.

Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope someone

can help me, any ideas/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: System Mechanic

 

If you are within a return window and can get the cost refunded, that's precisely what I'd do.

As someone who is a PC tech for part of my living, I have a strong dislike for this particular software.  And it's not because it stops me from getting business, but because it not infrequently screws things up for those who use it.  It's on the "uninstall immediately" list when I see it on a computer if the owner consents, and it's on a lot of techs' uninstall immediately lists.

The choice, of course, is yours.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Microsoft Editor

Mark Arnold ABG
 

List,

 

I am using Word in Office 365 and I decided to try Microsoft Editor.  I tried it and do not like it.  I am trying to disable it or turn it off but cannot find a way to get rid of it…  I have done searches to find a solution with no luck.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

Thanks in advance,

Mark

 


moderated Re: System Mechanic

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Clarence,
Did you try turning on the Jaws touch cursor?
I have often found that when things aren't identified, I can access them with the Jaws touch cursor.
To activate it, press shift + PC cursor.
To turn it off, double tap the PC cursor.
You navigate with the four arrow keys.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:12 PM
Subject: System Mechanic

I recently purchased the software System Mechanic. It is a package offered by AOL for cleaning up your hard drive. 

I downloaded it and discovered that JAWS was not able to identify the buttons, or the controls on the application. 

Has anyone used System Mechanic, and how did you get JAWS to interact with the controls. 

I have not contacted the manufacturer, because I think that they would not even know what I am talking about. 

I have uninstalled the software pending a resolution to this issue. 

I am considering having a sighted person share the screen and operate the system for me. I don't really want to do that. So, any help would be appreciated.


moderated Re: System Mechanic

Tony
 

They know, just don’t care.  This is an old problem.

 

It has been a few years since I used it and was not able to use all features.  Much can be accessed using the jaws cursor and simulated mouse keys.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of clarence carter via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: System Mechanic

 

I recently purchased the software System Mechanic. It is a package offered by AOL for cleaning up your hard drive. 

I downloaded it and discovered that JAWS was not able to identify the buttons, or the controls on the application. 

Has anyone used System Mechanic, and how did you get JAWS to interact with the controls. 

I have not contacted the manufacturer, because I think that they would not even know what I am talking about. 

I have uninstalled the software pending a resolution to this issue. 

I am considering having a sighted person share the screen and operate the system for me. I don't really want to do that. So, any help would be appreciated.

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