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moderated Re: Question on how too print an address on an envelope using a standard printer.

 

Albert,

Rather than trying to describe all the steps necessary to eventually end up with an envelope template you can use, that doesn't use text boxes (and most do), I am simply going to offer one I have created:

Commercial #10 Envelope Template without Text Boxes

This will download as an MS-Word document template (DOTX) file.  Selecting it and activating will cause a fresh copy of an envelope to open in MS-Word ready for addressing.

There are three lines of text I have as place holders for the return address:

Return Line One

Return Line Two

Return Line Three
Selecting from the R in Return, to the end of the line, then typing the Name, Street Address, and City/State/Zip for lines One, Two, and Three, respectively will get you a return address properly sized and positioned.

There are three lines of text I have as place holders for the main address that are centered horizontally and vertically on the envelope:

Main Address Line One

Main Address Line Two

Main Address Line Three

Again, selecting from Main to the end of line for and using the same items, but for the main addressee, that were identified for the return address, will get you a correctly placed address.  Make sure not to select the spaces leading up to the word Main or the position of the address will be wrong.

I cannot tell you how to print it specifically, because how you actually feed an envelope varies from printer to printer, even within a single maker's models.  Sighted assistance would be needed just so that the actual feed information can be learned as far as which side goes up or down and which direction the flap should be oriented so that you get the front of the envelope printed and with the return address at the upper left of the envelope.

I hope this helps you, and potentially others.
--

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moderated Question on how too print an address on an envelope using a standard printer.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good evening everyone, 

 

Would anyone happen too have step by step instructions on how too print an address on an envelope using a printer?  My girlfriend uses office word 365, Jaws 2022 on an HP laptop computer. I understand, that there is a way too do this in word, that is located in the format options, but I’m not sure if it’s a template, or if there is another way too do this specific task.     


moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

paul lemm
 

Hi James,

Pleased the information helped

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 13 December 2021 18:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

@Paul:
Wow thanks so much! This is exactly what I've been trying to do, I can't believe I never even thought to just do it in notepad (this is coming from someone who's modified scripts and such before). I guess I just assumed those files weren't supposed to be readable that way at all. Also now I think about it, I think someone offered the suggestion to leave the keys unassigned the other day in my other thread and I just completely forgot until you brought it up.
@James:
Oh god... another me? 😂

On 12/14/21, James Malone <malone_j@...> wrote:
Okay! Who has stolen my name on this list? Just joking!


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James
Malone
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

I've tried that, but all I see are a bunch of preset applications that
come with Jaws, I guess? I thought I was supposed to be able to see
all open applications in that list as well? Because I definitely don't
and this is where I'm confused.

On 12/14/21, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for
specific applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years
past, I seem to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the
insert plus f2 menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap
file for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.

















moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

From the Freedom Scientific website:-

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/ScriptManual/02-1_StartingTheKeyboardManager.htm

2.1 Starting the Keyboard Manager
Press INSERT+F2 to open the Run JAWS Manager dialog, then press K, followed by ENTER.

When you start the Keyboard Manager from within an application, the Keyboard Manager automatically opens the key map file for that application.

When you start the Keyboard Manager from the Utilities menu within the JAWS interface, the Keyboard Manager opens the default key map file.

So you need to start the keyboard manager using Insert F2 then K, making sure the application you want the keymap file for is in focus, rather than from the utilities menu, then it will open a new file with the application name.

If you open it from the Utilities menu, then the default keymap file will be opened.

If, having opened the manager with Insert F2, K, you want to go back to the default keymap file, press Control+Shift+D as in the Settings Center.

All the best

Steve

u
After you start the Keyboard Manager, JAWS selects the appropriate key map file name in the left hand pane of the manager.

When you open the Keyboard Manager from an application, you can open the default key map file by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+D.

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 13 December 2021 16:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

Okay! Who has stolen my name on this list? Just joking!


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

I've tried that, but all I see are a bunch of preset applications that come with Jaws, I guess? I thought I was supposed to be able to see all open applications in that list as well? Because I definitely don't and this is where I'm confused.

On 12/14/21, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.







moderated Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Give them time. Web development doesn’t usually happen overnight. J

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: December 13, 2021 12:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

I have reported it, but all they say is that they are just updating the site.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hm, well, once the page loaded, I checked my address bar, and the https: was there anyway, as I expected it would be. All websites are now supposed to have SSL security certificates, which I believe is what the s: designates. Without them, your modern browsers will throw up an error message and ask you if you’re sure you want to proceed.

Anyway, the page loaded but the whole experience was pretty slow in Firefox, which is the browser I was using. I eventually had to close it out. Not really sure what this site is useful for but, I’m guessing there’s some buggy script on there that’s causing sluggishness in all browsers, and may or may not be related to screen-reader use. Report to webmaster, I’d say.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 06:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Maybe it shouldn't matter, but, for some reason, it does. When I loaded the url without the S, it loaded three times. When I did use the S, it wouldn't load at all. It said that Chrome and Edge were not responding.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Definitely something screwy about that page.

But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 05:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,

 

https://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.

 

http://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:19 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Dear Listers:

 

My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com.  Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning.  All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it.  The page would load.  When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings.  When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.”  I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site.  But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to.  I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome.  Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links.  I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022.  Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem?  By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Word press with jaws

Steve Nutt
 

There’s actually quite a few too. Another one is WordPress: The Missing Manual by Daniel MacDonald. Unfortunately, Bookshare are completely out of date with it, so I had to buy the latest edition on Kindle.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 11 December 2021 18:53
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word press with jaws

 

Here are the title and author:

 

WordPress 5 Complete: Build beautiful and feature-rich websites from scratch, 7th Edition

By: Karol Król

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Word press with jaws

 

Richard,
Could you give the title of this book? I have yet to create a bookshare account, and unless the book is prohibitively expensive, I can afford it. 
Thanks!
Jonathan 


moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

James Malone <james.malone93502@...>
 

@Paul:
Wow thanks so much! This is exactly what I've been trying to do, I
can't believe I never even thought to just do it in notepad (this is
coming from someone who's modified scripts and such before). I guess I
just assumed those files weren't supposed to be readable that way at
all. Also now I think about it, I think someone offered the suggestion
to leave the keys unassigned the other day in my other thread and I
just completely forgot until you brought it up.
@James:
Oh god... another me? 😂

On 12/14/21, James Malone <malone_j@...> wrote:
Okay! Who has stolen my name on this list? Just joking!


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

I've tried that, but all I see are a bunch of preset applications that come
with Jaws, I guess? I thought I was supposed to be able to see all open
applications in that list as well? Because I definitely don't and this is
where I'm confused.

On 12/14/21, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.

















moderated Re: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

Chris Hill
 

Have Jaws read the info you want and then use
Insert plus space bar then h will get you into speech history. 

CH

On 12/13/2021 12:00, Albert Cutolo wrote:

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

Is there anyway that I can read an email address?  I’ve tried doing this using the alt key number 1 while in an open message, but I’m not able too arrow through the address Caracter by Caracter, for me too copy it down in braille, so this is why I’m asking. He is someone   who is a volunteer reader, that I’d like too send an  electronic  gift card too for Christmas, as a thank you for taking time out   of his work             schedule    too reading my mail.   



moderated Re: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Usually if you do control F to forward a message from the sender, or however you forward with your email client, it will put the original message into the body, and the email address should be at the top, and you can copy it from there.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 12:00 PM
Subject: Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

Is there anyway that I can read an email address?  I’ve tried doing this using the alt key number 1 while in an open message, but I’m not able too arrow through the address Caracter by Caracter, for me too copy it down in braille, so this is why I’m asking. He is someone   who is a volunteer reader, that I’d like too send an  electronic  gift card too for Christmas, as a thank you for taking time out   of his work             schedule    too reading my mail.   


moderated Question on how can i retrieve an email address?

Albert Cutolo
 

Good afternoon everyone, 

 

Is there anyway that I can read an email address?  I’ve tried doing this using the alt key number 1 while in an open message, but I’m not able too arrow through the address Caracter by Caracter, for me too copy it down in braille, so this is why I’m asking. He is someone   who is a volunteer reader, that I’d like too send an  electronic  gift card too for Christmas, as a thank you for taking time out   of his work             schedule    too reading my mail.   


moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

James Malone
 

Okay! Who has stolen my name on this list? Just joking!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

I've tried that, but all I see are a bunch of preset applications that come with Jaws, I guess? I thought I was supposed to be able to see all open applications in that list as well? Because I definitely don't and this is where I'm confused.

On 12/14/21, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.







moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

paul lemm
 

Hi James,

I'm not sure how to create one using Jaws, but you can always manually create one using notepad and then just pace the file in the correct folder on your PC. If creating it in notepad you just have to remember when saving the file that in the 'save as type' drop down you select 'all files' and then name the file with the name of the application you want to use it with and add the .jkm' extension to the end of the file name. if it helps I'll post a JKM file I have for an audio game called 'A heroes call', you could use this as a template or amend it using notepad to fit your needs, then just rename it with the exact name of the application you want it to work with and place in the correct folder and it should work fine. I'll post a link to the 'A heroes call' file below, and put below some instructions on where to place any JKM files you create. I can't take credit for the file, since it was provided by a user over on the audiogames.net forum in the A heroes call topic, so a shout out to that user for the file and instructions on where to place manually created JKM files.

Instructions:
Go to your user folder and follow this folder path:
AppData
Roaming
Freedom Scientific
JAWS
[Whatever version you have]
Settings
ENU (or whatever language settings you have)
And paste it there.

Dropbox link to 'A heroes Call.jkm' file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6xcjepn5d9njhyh/A%20Hero%27s%20Call.jkm?dl=1

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: 13 December 2021 13:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2 menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using Jaws in probably 12/13 years


moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

James Malone <james.malone93502@...>
 

I've tried that, but all I see are a bunch of preset applications that
come with Jaws, I guess? I thought I was supposed to be able to see
all open applications in that list as well? Because I definitely don't
and this is where I'm confused.

On 12/14/21, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.







moderated Re: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

Mario
 

open the keyboard manager and press control+n.

-------- Original Message --------
From: James Malone [mailto:james.malone93502@...]
Subject: Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps
Date: Monday, December 13, 2021, 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years





.


moderated Creating a Jaws Keyboard Manager file for specific apps

James Malone <james.malone93502@...>
 

Hi guys,
I've been wanting to create custom keyboard manager files for specific
applications, but can't figure out how to do it? In years past, I seem
to recall being able to run keyboard manager from the insert plus f2
menu and then going new keymap and selecting a custom app from there.
I could be totally wrong, but I see no way to create a new keymap file
for a given application outside what is in the new keymap list.
How am I best to go about doing this? I'm sure I'm just missing
something seriously obvious somewhere, this is my first time using
Jaws in probably 12/13 years


moderated Re: [External] Re: Question !

Cook, Steve
 

Hi All,

Over the weekend I updated my home computer to Windows 11 and JAWS 2022. I attempted to use the dictation feature by pressing Windows key and the letter H> I heard the beep sound and spoke some words and then pressed the Windows H to stop the dictation. Then I read it with JAWS, but their was not any text on the screen. I did check my microphone and it was working. What can I try? Thanks in advance!

Steve


moderated Re: Outlook.com email account issue/question

Chris
 

Im not surprised you are being blocked, when you continuously send the same message to multiple email addresses

 

What do you think people are going to do when you insist on spamming the same  message all over the place???

 

Yes, Thats right, mark as junk!

 

So change your emailing practices if you dont want to be annoying

 

From: Madison Martin
Sent: 12 December 2021 22:02
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook.com email account issue/question

 

Hi all,

About two months ago I created an Outlook.com email account because I was tired

of the email account that I have with our ISP (which is the account that I'm

sending this message from) either blocking messages or marking messages that

aren't junk as junk even though I've marked them as not junk so many times. I

hate worrying about whether or not I'll receive a message, which is why I

decided to create an Outlook.com account. Anyway, now for my issue/question,

with my Outlook.com account sometimes it'd let me send messages and other times

they wouldn't go through and then my account would get locked because they

thought I was doing something bad when I wasn't. The last time this happened I

got a message telling me to sign into my account, but I've been avoiding doing

this for fear that I'm just going to keep having the same issue which I really

don't want to continue to have to deal with. I've called the MS Disability

Answer Desk twice regarding this, and they've been able to unlock my account but

both times they haven't told me why this happens or if there's anything that I

can do to prevent this from happening in the future. So for anyone who has or

has had an Outlook.com account have you ever had this issue? If so, any idea

what I can do to  prevent this from happening again? If no one else has had this

issue then what did I do wrong? If anyone else has ideas please share them also.

I really don't want to get rid of my account; and I really want to have all of

my emails going to one address as checking two inboxes is annoying. I hate

accessing mail on the web.

Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope someone

can help me, any ideas/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

Rick Miller
 

I have reported it, but all they say is that they are just updating the site.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hm, well, once the page loaded, I checked my address bar, and the https: was there anyway, as I expected it would be. All websites are now supposed to have SSL security certificates, which I believe is what the s: designates. Without them, your modern browsers will throw up an error message and ask you if you’re sure you want to proceed.

Anyway, the page loaded but the whole experience was pretty slow in Firefox, which is the browser I was using. I eventually had to close it out. Not really sure what this site is useful for but, I’m guessing there’s some buggy script on there that’s causing sluggishness in all browsers, and may or may not be related to screen-reader use. Report to webmaster, I’d say.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 06:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Maybe it shouldn't matter, but, for some reason, it does. When I loaded the url without the S, it loaded three times. When I did use the S, it wouldn't load at all. It said that Chrome and Edge were not responding.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Definitely something screwy about that page.

But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 05:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,

 

https://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.

 

http://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:19 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Dear Listers:

 

My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com.  Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning.  All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it.  The page would load.  When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings.  When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.”  I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site.  But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to.  I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome.  Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links.  I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022.  Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem?  By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

Rick Miller
 

I tried what you suggested, Bill, but it doesn’t make any difference.  When the page loads, JAWS starts reading off the number of headings and regions and then starts reading the  home page, but after I hit the Control key to silence it and then try to arrow down to the link I want all I hear is the notice that it is the home page.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Maybe it shouldn't matter, but, for some reason, it does. When I loaded the url without the S, it loaded three times. When I did use the S, it wouldn't load at all. It said that Chrome and Edge were not responding.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Definitely something screwy about that page.

But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 05:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,

 

https://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.

 

http://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:19 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Dear Listers:

 

My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com.  Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning.  All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it.  The page would load.  When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings.  When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.”  I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site.  But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to.  I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome.  Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links.  I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022.  Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem?  By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Hm, well, once the page loaded, I checked my address bar, and the https: was there anyway, as I expected it would be. All websites are now supposed to have SSL security certificates, which I believe is what the s: designates. Without them, your modern browsers will throw up an error message and ask you if you’re sure you want to proceed.

Anyway, the page loaded but the whole experience was pretty slow in Firefox, which is the browser I was using. I eventually had to close it out. Not really sure what this site is useful for but, I’m guessing there’s some buggy script on there that’s causing sluggishness in all browsers, and may or may not be related to screen-reader use. Report to webmaster, I’d say.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 06:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Maybe it shouldn't matter, but, for some reason, it does. When I loaded the url without the S, it loaded three times. When I did use the S, it wouldn't load at all. It said that Chrome and Edge were not responding.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Definitely something screwy about that page.

But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 05:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,

 

https://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.

 

http://nationaldaycalendar.com

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:19 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS

 

Dear Listers:

 

My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com.  Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning.  All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it.  The page would load.  When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings.  When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.”  I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site.  But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to.  I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome.  Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links.  I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022.  Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem?  By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

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