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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Rick Miller
Usually, when I try to access National Day Calendar I do not enter either http or https when I get to the address bar. Microsoft Edge is my default browser. When my Facebook page pops up I hit the Control+L keystroke to get to the address bar. When it pops up I just enter nationaldaycalendar.com and then hit the Enter Key.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Definitely something screwy about that page. But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,
https://nationaldaycalendar.com
The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.
http://nationaldaycalendar.com
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Rick Miller
I have tried accessing it both with Microsoft Edge and with Google Chrome.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 11:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Hello Rick:
What browser do you use with JAWS? I am using Google Chrome and so far, the page seems to come up just fine.
Kindly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Bill White
Maybe it shouldn't matter, but, for some reason, it does. When I loaded the url without the S, it loaded three times. When I did use the S, it wouldn't load at all. It said that Chrome and Edge were not responding.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:32 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Definitely something screwy about that page. But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,
https://nationaldaycalendar.com
The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.
http://nationaldaycalendar.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
JM Casey
Definitely something screwy about that page. But it shoudln’t matter if you don’t use https: anymore. As of a few years ago, browsers will autmoatically add the secure html property to any url. It’s just assumed and when you type in http://, which I often do as I enter in addresses manually, the “s” simply gets added and will show up in the address bar as soon as the site is loaded.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: December 12, 2021 05:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,
https://nationaldaycalendar.com
The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.
http://nationaldaycalendar.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Bill White
Hi, Rick. I encountered the same problems as did you when going to,
https://nationaldaycalendar.com
The page is extremely unresponsive to any screen reader, including Narrator. I had better luck when I removed the S from the https: link. Try loading the link below without the S, and wait until the page loads, and begins reading the links.
http://nationaldaycalendar.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:19 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Outlook.com email account issue/question
Madison Martin
Hi all,
About two months ago I created an Outlook.com email account because I was tired of the email account that I have with our ISP (which is the account that I'm sending this message from) either blocking messages or marking messages that aren't junk as junk even though I've marked them as not junk so many times. I hate worrying about whether or not I'll receive a message, which is why I decided to create an Outlook.com account. Anyway, now for my issue/question, with my Outlook.com account sometimes it'd let me send messages and other times they wouldn't go through and then my account would get locked because they thought I was doing something bad when I wasn't. The last time this happened I got a message telling me to sign into my account, but I've been avoiding doing this for fear that I'm just going to keep having the same issue which I really don't want to continue to have to deal with. I've called the MS Disability Answer Desk twice regarding this, and they've been able to unlock my account but both times they haven't told me why this happens or if there's anything that I can do to prevent this from happening in the future. So for anyone who has or has had an Outlook.com account have you ever had this issue? If so, any idea what I can do to prevent this from happening again? If no one else has had this issue then what did I do wrong? If anyone else has ideas please share them also. I really don't want to get rid of my account; and I really want to have all of my emails going to one address as checking two inboxes is annoying. I hate accessing mail on the web. Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope someone can help me, any ideas/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks Madison
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Re: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Curtis Chong
Hello Rick:
What browser do you use with JAWS? I am using Google Chrome and so far, the page seems to come up just fine.
Kindly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 6:19 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: Jaws2022 to disable Jaws2021 to use
Soronel Haetir
Shut down jaws 2022 (if running) by hitting jaws+f4 followed by enter
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if needed to confirm Start jaws 2021 (I use win+r then type j "jaws2021" followed by hitting the enter key). Hit jaws+j Go to options -> basics and hit the enter key Hit alt+j to trigger the "automatically start jaws button" Set the dialog controls to match your desired settings then hit the enter key. (I suggest at least checking the "Start JAWS at the logon screen" box and "Always" for "Start JAWS after logon for this user") Hit the enter key Hit alt+y if you get a UIA confirmation dialog Hit the enter key and jaws 2021 should now run by default instead of jaws 2022
On 12/12/21, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:
I’m using laptop computer I meant to said in here that I don’t want to --
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Re: Jaws2022 to disable Jaws2021 to use
O.Addison Gethers
I’m using laptop computer I meant to said in here that I don’t want to use jaws2022 and want to used jaws2021 When I was on jaws2022 windows I press alt-o then arrow to basic press enter can’t remember exact word I press tab key 2 time tonot have jaws something where the box is checks so I press spacebar to have the box say not check then I press tab it say all users and etc where it have box check then I press tab to OK button press enter wWheen I press insert –f4 key to unload jaws2022 I press spacebar then I press windows key –r to type in jaws2021 it loaded jaws2021 to come on When I either shut down or restart the computer jaws2022 still come on not jaws2021 Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of crayton Benner
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Cc: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws2022 to disable Jaws2021 to use
So, do you have jaws 2021 coming on at startup? On Dec 12, 2021, at 08:39, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:
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Re: Jaws2022 to disable Jaws2021 to use
crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
So, do you have jaws 2021 coming on at startup?
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On Dec 12, 2021, at 08:39, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:
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Jaws2022 to disable Jaws2021 to use
O.Addison Gethers
Hi All I have jaws2022 and want to disable it to use jaws2021 How do I do that? Addison
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I Cannot Use National Day Calendar's Home Page Anymore with JAWS
Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
My favorite website today is https://nationaldaycalendar.com. Until just a couple of weeks I used to go to this page every morning. All of a sudden whenever I would go to this page I found myself unable to use it. The page would load. When the load was completed JAWS would read how many regions there were on the page and how many headings and then would start reading all of the links and all of the headings. When I would hit the Control key to silence JAWS and then try to arrow to the link I wanted to activate the only link that would appear was a link called “adchoices.” I contacted National Day Calendar via Facebook and they told me they were upgrading their site. But even now after almost two weeks whenever I try to load this webpage JAWS will read off the names of the links, but when I silence it I cannot go to the link I want to. I have tried using both my default browser, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome. Sometimes I will just have the “adchoices,” link, and at other times JAWS will just say “home page,” after I silence it after it automatically starts reading all of the links. I am using Windows 2010 and JAWS 2022. Can either of you give me some advice as to how I can rectify this problem? By the way, this only happens with National Day Calendar and not with any other webpage.
Rick Miller
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Re: Word press with jaws
Adrian Spratt
Here are the title and author:
WordPress 5 Complete: Build beautiful and feature-rich websites from scratch, 7th Edition By: Karol Król
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word press with jaws
Richard,
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Re: Word press with jaws
Richard B. McDonald
The provided link takes you to the site where its title and other details are shown.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 7:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word press with jaws
Richard,
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Re: testing, please ignore
Chris
Yes it bloody well does! Now enough of this testing shit
Enough is enough!
From: tom x
Sent: 11 December 2021 15:57 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: testing, please ignore
See if this gets to the list.
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testing, please ignore
tom x <ballistic719@...>
See if this gets to the list.
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Re: Word press with jaws
Cohn, Jonathan
Richard,
Could you give the title of this book? I have yet to create a bookshare account, and unless the book is prohibitively expensive, I can afford it. Thanks! Jonathan
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Re: Windows 11 Task Bar Question
Steve Nutt
Hi,
No, this is one of those things that MS broke for us in Windows 11.
All the best
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Sent: 10 December 2021 16:02 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Windows 11 Task Bar Question
Hello All,
In Windows 10 I was able to use first letter navigation on the task bar to open pinned apps. This does not seem to work in Windows 11. Any way to change this?
As always, thanks in advance… Mark
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Re: Bypassing certain keys in a specific application?
James Malone <james.malone93502@...>
Just catching up on this thread now.
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@Adrian: Yeah I think I'll definitely throw forward that suggestion for a passthrough toggle, it'd be a neat idea. With that being said, there's very few cases where I'd probably use it, but could potentially be an easy way to get around the issues people sometimes have with Jaws intercepting keys before the application. I also can't think of too many cases where most people would need to use that either, but I personally say that about a lot of Jaws features. 😂 @Nermin: I was aware of the sleep thing, thanks for the suggestion though. That would be fine if I didn't need speech from Jaws in this specific case. @Paul: I had no idea either of those games had keyboard files for them, that's neat. I also haven't played either of them since they were released so that would explain it. ☺ This is exactly the kind of thing I was trying to do, I was trying to make a new keymap for the application but for whatever reason I couldn't see it in the keyboard manager (even running it from the quick settings menu). In years past, I seem to recall being able to choose from any open applications when choosing new keymap? I of course could be totally wrong and I'm misunderstanding how keyboard manager works now. I'm about to go look at that post you linked to, this could also answer some questions. @Steve: Again thanks for the suggestion. I'll totally try that if I can figure out why I can't seem to be able to create a new keymap for this specific application. Unless it's something I'm supposed to make in notepad now? For anyone curious, the application in question I was trying to work with is called Visual Boy Advance, which is an emulator for Gameboy Advance/Colour/Original. I discovered that there are scripts to make the first 2 generations of Pokemon games accessible. I personally felt super nostalgic as I'd played them as a kid, so thought I'd go and revisit them again. I personally ended up modifying the Visual Boy Advance keymap as well as the Pokemon Access script keys to get around the issue for the time being and found that I actually enjoyed this new configuration loads better personally. I still figured I'd keep this discussion going though as I do have other games I'd want to try this with. Also it's an issue I keep seeing Jaws users talk about from time to time and knew people had been getting around it.
On 12/11/21, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Yes, I think you can do this with the keyboard manager.
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Re: Windows 11 Task Bar Question
Mark Arnold ABG
Ben,
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I had already started his tutorials and hadn’t gotten to this one yet. It definitely gave me the solution I was looking to find.
All the best to you and the list… Mark
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 2:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows 11 Task Bar Question
Hey Mark
You can also hold the Windows key and use the number row to open pinned Apps on your Taskbar. For example, the second pinned App on my Taskbar is Microsoft Edge, so I can hold the Windows key and press 2 to launch Edge from anywhere.
Check out this great tutorial from Dan Clark:
Pin and Arrange Apps on the Taskbar
Cheers
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Thanks for the reply. It used to be so easy to simply do the Windows Key plus T and then use first letter navigation. I guess this Old Dog will need to learn a new trick!
Thank you again, Mark
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi, I don’t think so, as this change has to do with changes to the technology used to display Taskbar and other items on screen. Without going into details, I can say that Taskbar and other items are seen as UIA controls instead of Microsoft Active Accessibility (ask me offlist for some technical details as that is beyond the scope of one screen reader). Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Arnold ABG
Hello All,
In Windows 10 I was able to use first letter navigation on the task bar to open pinned apps. This does not seem to work in Windows 11. Any way to change this?
As always, thanks in advance… Mark
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