On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM, Bill White wrote:

Yes, use the This PC icon, which can be put on the desktop. Then just arrow down to whatever device (or drive) you want to open. Then you don't need to open and close drives. Just press enter on the folder and you are inside it. This ensures that when you do a copy or paste, you are actually inside the folder where you want the files or folders to be copied from, or pasted into.

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Bill,

Not that I'm arguing anything that you've said, but this is still using File Explorer, just invoking it such that a specific folder opens when it opens.

What you propose is a great convenience, and a wonderful functional workaround.  But if someone is having consistent issues navigating File Explorer, I'd also say that they need to practice, practice, practice.  It's such a fundamental part of using Windows, and you'll never have desktop shortcuts for every folder you ever want to access, that developing confidence in using File Explorer is time incredibly well spent.

Not only that, but it's not difficult to get the hang of, either.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

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On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:03 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

Good way to lose files.

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No, it's not.  And no matter how many times you make this assertion it will remain false, and for precisely the reasons I have already detailed.

If you can't handle doing a simple cut and paste please do not try to convince others that it's a bad idea.  It's a frequently used fundamental Windows function across contexts and most handle it just fine, thank you.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Okay, Albert. Understood.

If I had this situation, I would stop JAWS, and run jaws2022 using the run dialog. Then, I would ensure that the automatic startup stuff was set correctly. Failing that, I would run a JAWS repair and, if needed, do a complete re-install of JAWS 2022. Alas, all of this stuff is vexing, but sometimes necessary.

Kindly,

Curtis Chong

Good morning Curtis.

This is a dell  laptop computer with windows 10 On  it.   

Question:

Are you running Windows 7 perchance? If you are, you will not be able to update to JAWS 2022 inasmuch as Windows 7 is no longer supported in this latest version of JAWS.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

Good morning Jeff, 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

HTH  

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Hi Loy,

I did make a shortcut for Jaws 2021, but I deleted it off of my desktop and created one for Jaws 2022.

----- Original Message -----

From: Albert Cutolo

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning Jeff, 

 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

 

HTH  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Good morning Curtis.

This is a dell  laptop computer with windows 10 On  it.   

Question:

Are you running Windows 7 perchance? If you are, you will not be able to update to JAWS 2022 inasmuch as Windows 7 is no longer supported in this latest version of JAWS.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

Good morning Jeff, 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

HTH  

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Question:

Are you running Windows 7 perchance? If you are, you will not be able to update to JAWS 2022 inasmuch as Windows 7 is no longer supported in this latest version of JAWS.

Warmly,

Curtis Chong

Good morning Jeff, 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

HTH  

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Albert Cutolo

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning Jeff, 

 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

 

HTH  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Albert Cutolo

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

Good morning Jeff, 

 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

 

HTH  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Good morning Jeff, 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

HTH  

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

HTH  

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Good morning everyone, 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 

Hi, I seem to be having trouble deleting things off of my desk top. When I
hit the delete key, Jaws says lost focus. I guess I am not doing this
correctly. Any alternative to delete 5 or more files at a time but not in
order? Thank you so much to everyone here for helping us. Andy and Leroy

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Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
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Salem, MA. 01970
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From: kevin meyers

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

Hi Bill, Is there another way to get to OS drive other than using windows explorer?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi, Kevin. I never copy, move or delete files or folders using the Windows File Explorer tree view. Instead, I actually open the folder from either the OS drive or whatever drive the files or folders are on. This makes it simple, because I don't need to deal with the "closed" folders. If I go into a folder, I know which folder has focus, and the folder, and only that folder, has focus. Then, when I move or copy the files or folders, I know exactly where they will go. If you would like help with this, I can call you tomorrow, and walk you through the process I use.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi Bill, I will try that method. When I did do a copy through windows10 the file would then be in the two folders. I would then delete it from the folder I copied it from. It then deleted the file in both folders. I would go to the recycle bin and recover it. I just wonder where some of these files that I did a cut and paste went as they don’t exist in the folder I cut from or the folder I pasted it in. Thanks, Kevin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi, Kevin. It's best to use CONTROL plus C to copy the file, then go to the folder, enter it, and use CONTROL plus V to paste the file. These options are available in the context menu. There's no need to use the JAWS Cursor, only the Applications key or SHIFT plus F10.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: moving files from a folder

 

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2022. I’m moving files from one folder to another through windows explorer. I put the cursor on the file name. Then I use the Jaws cursor and place cursor on the file name. I then press the right mouse key. I get the options to copy, cut and so on. I move to cut and press enter. I then move to the new folder. The folder I want is with in multiple folders. For example there is a main folder. Within that folder is then folder 1. Within that folder is folder 1a. I need to put the file in folder 1a. The file is on the clip board. Once at the folder 1a I paste in. I make sure it is in the folder before moving out of folder 1a. It shows up. I go and do something else and then come back to folder 1a. The file I cut and pasted is not in folder 1a. Also there are times I create a sub folder, it shows up and when I go out and come back it no longer exists. What would be causing this to happen? I check other sub folders and the file is no where.

Thanks,

Kevin