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moderated Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning Jeff, 

 

Right after I received your message, I did just now, check and my shortcut key for Jaws says that it is set for Jaws 2022.  But in the about section of the Jaws manual in the about, is continues too say that it is Jaws 2021.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 8:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

 

HTH  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 


moderated Bypassing certain keys in a specific application?

James Malone <james.malone93502@...>
 

Hi there list,
I've started using Jaws again recently after not using it for at least
a good decade, so I'm still catching up to speed here.
Basically though, I'm wanting to bypass certain keys and have that key
passed through to the application. Is this something I am able to
do/how would I be able to do it?
Regards,
James


moderated Re: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

Jeff Christiansen
 

Are you certain the shortcut on your desktop is set for JFW 2022 correctly?

From the desktop find JAWS 2022, now use, Alt+Enter

Tab through the dialog setting the shortcut key to Alt+Control+J

If JAWS 2021 is still set to, Alt+Control+J, the above won’t work until you change 2021 or use a different combination for JAWS 2022.

 

HTH  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 


moderated Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021, even though I installed the latest Jaws 2022.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Around a week or so ago, I installed Jaws 2022 and am having a real problem that I don’t know how too remedy.    It seems that whenever I press the insert F4 command too turn off the Jaws speech and then resume Jaws speech with control plus alt plus J,  Jaws reverts back too Jaws 2021.  I know this, because when I go too where it says jaws home manual and do the alt plus a key and check where it says about key, it says that Jaws 2021, and not Jaws 2022 instead.  I did call Jaws tech support where we performed a uninstall  of Jaws 2021 and did a complete reinstall of Jaws2022, but this problem still exists.  I’ve also ran a Jaws repair about three times,  but with no resolution.

 

I’m worried that if I  call tech support back with this ongoing issue, I don’t want them too think that I’m  some kind of nut job. 


moderated Re: Deleting off of the desk top

Gerald Levy
 


Focus on the desktop icon you want to delete, then press the context menu key or Shift-F10, and scroll to the delete option.  This only deletes the desktop shortcut, not the program or file itself.


Gerald



On 12/8/2021 7:00 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
Hi, I seem to be having trouble deleting things off of my desk top. When I
hit the delete key, Jaws says lost focus. I guess I am not doing this
correctly. Any alternative to delete 5 or more files at a time but not in
order? Thank you so much to everyone here for helping us. Andy and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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moderated Deleting off of the desk top

Andrew J. LaPointe
 

Hi, I seem to be having trouble deleting things off of my desk top. When I
hit the delete key, Jaws says lost focus. I guess I am not doing this
correctly. Any alternative to delete 5 or more files at a time but not in
order? Thank you so much to everyone here for helping us. Andy and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center


moderated Re: moving files from a folder

Dave Durber
 

Kevin:
 
Press WINDOWS KEY+R, to open the Run command edit field. Enter the drive specification in the edit fieled, for example, c:\ or any other drive you have connected to your system, using the same format. This will open Windows explorer and it gives focus to the root folder of the specified drive.
 
HTH
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

Hi Bill, Is there another way to get to OS drive other than using windows explorer?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi, Kevin. I never copy, move or delete files or folders using the Windows File Explorer tree view. Instead, I actually open the folder from either the OS drive or whatever drive the files or folders are on. This makes it simple, because I don't need to deal with the "closed" folders. If I go into a folder, I know which folder has focus, and the folder, and only that folder, has focus. Then, when I move or copy the files or folders, I know exactly where they will go. If you would like help with this, I can call you tomorrow, and walk you through the process I use.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi Bill, I will try that method. When I did do a copy through windows10 the file would then be in the two folders. I would then delete it from the folder I copied it from. It then deleted the file in both folders. I would go to the recycle bin and recover it. I just wonder where some of these files that I did a cut and paste went as they don’t exist in the folder I cut from or the folder I pasted it in. Thanks, Kevin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

Hi, Kevin. It's best to use CONTROL plus C to copy the file, then go to the folder, enter it, and use CONTROL plus V to paste the file. These options are available in the context menu. There's no need to use the JAWS Cursor, only the Applications key or SHIFT plus F10.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 6:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: moving files from a folder

 

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10 and Jaws2022. I’m moving files from one folder to another through windows explorer. I put the cursor on the file name. Then I use the Jaws cursor and place cursor on the file name. I then press the right mouse key. I get the options to copy, cut and so on. I move to cut and press enter. I then move to the new folder. The folder I want is with in multiple folders. For example there is a main folder. Within that folder is then folder 1. Within that folder is folder 1a. I need to put the file in folder 1a. The file is on the clip board. Once at the folder 1a I paste in. I make sure it is in the folder before moving out of folder 1a. It shows up. I go and do something else and then come back to folder 1a. The file I cut and pasted is not in folder 1a. Also there are times I create a sub folder, it shows up and when I go out and come back it no longer exists. What would be causing this to happen? I check other sub folders and the file is no where.

Thanks,

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Do sound schemes work in Excel?

Phillip Gross
 

I don't see why they wouldn't, but it's not something I ever tried when I was using Excell for eight hours a day. I'll try to sit down and play with it later. 

In the meantime, can you use Jaws key plus f when on a cell to get all of its information? I don't know if I ever tried that. Maybe that's why people claimed my sheets weren't visually appealing, but they got the job done.


moderated Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Rod
 

I just got myself a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon, it is working just great.

I ordered the t14S and I had to return it because it was too slow for my needs.


Rod,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Just purchased a Lenovo ideapad 5I and it seems to work well. Staples has them on sale right now.

On 12/7/2021 12:33 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone,
I bought a new laptop last year, but I didn’t ask for the best laptop to use with fusion, and I regretted it. Now I really need to get one that will work for me. I use fusion, I mostly use jaws but there are still times when the magnification is important. What laptop would work best? Thank you for your recommendations!

Bonnie Vegiard




moderated Do sound schemes work in Excel?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Hi,

I’m learning about sounds schemes and have started using them in Word and Outlook for proofreading.  I watched a YouTube video on tweaking a sound scheme, which I think I’ll need to do in order to get strike-through to be read out.  I’m excited about the prospect of having a sound scheme that would automatically announce the font and fill color of each cell in Excel.  I just tried every default sound scheme and none of the ones listed as announcing color do anything in my test Excel file.  Wondering if anyone has attempted this and gotten it to work?  I’m currently concerned that Excel isn’t seeing cell contents in the way needed to make sounds schemes work.

 

TIA,

 

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moderated Re: moving files from a folder

 

Kevin,

No one has ever proposed using the method you're trying in the way you're trying it.

If you want a shortcut to This PC on the desktop, the way to get it has remained pretty much unchanged for a while now.  See this tutorial:  How to Add This PC to Desktop in Windows 10
I doubt it's any different in Windows 11, either, but have not had any opportunity to confirm that.

If you activate the This PC desktop shortcut File Explorer opens in precisely the same way as it always does with focus on This PC already having been selected in the tree view and the various libraries, drives, and devices over in the file list.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: moving files from a folder

kevin meyers
 

Hi Brian, I went to This PC and pressed shift f10. There is no pinn to start. There is a unpin from start. I also pressed the right mouse key and it also just says unpin from start. Is there another way to pin The PC to the desk top? I should also say it gives the option to pin to quick access. I rather put it on the desk top.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM, Bill White wrote:

Yes, use the This PC icon, which can be put on the desktop. Then just arrow down to whatever device (or drive) you want to open. Then you don't need to open and close drives. Just press enter on the folder and you are inside it. This ensures that when you do a copy or paste, you are actually inside the folder where you want the files or folders to be copied from, or pasted into.

-
Bill,

Not that I'm arguing anything that you've said, but this is still using File Explorer, just invoking it such that a specific folder opens when it opens.

What you propose is a great convenience, and a wonderful functional workaround.  But if someone is having consistent issues navigating File Explorer, I'd also say that they need to practice, practice, practice.  It's such a fundamental part of using Windows, and you'll never have desktop shortcuts for every folder you ever want to access, that developing confidence in using File Explorer is time incredibly well spent.

Not only that, but it's not difficult to get the hang of, either.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: Recommendations for a new laptop

Don H
 

Just purchased a Lenovo ideapad 5I and it seems to work well. Staples
has them on sale right now.

On 12/7/2021 12:33 PM, Bonnie Vegiard wrote:
Hi everyone,
I bought a new laptop last year, but I didn’t ask for the best laptop to use with fusion, and I regretted it. Now I really need to get one that will work for me. I use fusion, I mostly use jaws but there are still times when the magnification is important. What laptop would work best? Thank you for your recommendations!

Bonnie Vegiard



moderated Recommendations for a new laptop

Bonnie Vegiard
 

Hi everyone,
I bought a new laptop last year, but I didn’t ask for the best laptop to use with fusion, and I regretted it. Now I really need to get one that will work for me. I use fusion, I mostly use jaws but there are still times when the magnification is important. What laptop would work best? Thank you for your recommendations!

Bonnie Vegiard


moderated Re: moving files from a folder

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:22 PM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Brian. Using This PC is the only shortcut anyone needs to access a drive or folder. I find it much more convenient not to worry about if a folder is open or closed, as I do if I am in the tree view.
-
Bill,

But it's still using File Explorer, which was my central point, as your response was to the query, "Hi Bill, Is there another way to get to OS drive other than using windows explorer?"  You are still using File Explorer.

Also, and it's really not all that important that I do understand, I really don't understand what's difficult about navigating tree view and opening folders.  Yes, it's easier via point and click, but I can get through navigating in File Explorer via the keyboard pretty slickly, too.  What you're doing is just going about it in a slightly different way, which is fine.  Windows virtually always gives multiple methods to achieve the same ends.

Personally, I'm far more inclined to use Quick Access and pin what I need there if I need repeated quick access to a specific folder on any non-removable drive.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Norman Waddington wrote:
I thought there was a Jaws update to fix it but I could be wrong.
-
Joseph has already indicated that Microsoft and Vispero have declared the issue fixed.  This was no surprise to me, as these sorts of issues tend to get top priority and, often, are fairly straightforward for the involved entities to fix.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

Curtis Chong
 

There is a JAWS update to fix this problem. Grab it as soon as you can.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norman Waddington via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

Brian,

 

I thought there was a Jaws update to fix it but I could be wrong.

 

Norman.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 07 December 2021 16:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

Joseph,

            Thanks.  I hadn't even thought of that.  But since a workaround was given it was the "did it get fixed?" part of the original quesiton that threw me.  The only messages about this that I did see included the fix.

             I also didn't see this announcement as saying that Windows Update did anything, specifically, to JAWS files but that there was an issue with JAWS files "playing well" with Windows after the update.

             It was also one of those things where only some people experienced the issue, and those who did would know it, and those who didn't need not pay any attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

Norman Waddington
 

Brian,

 

I thought there was a Jaws update to fix it but I could be wrong.

 

Norman.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 07 December 2021 16:55
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

Joseph,

            Thanks.  I hadn't even thought of that.  But since a workaround was given it was the "did it get fixed?" part of the original quesiton that threw me.  The only messages about this that I did see included the fix.

             I also didn't see this announcement as saying that Windows Update did anything, specifically, to JAWS files but that there was an issue with JAWS files "playing well" with Windows after the update.

             It was also one of those things where only some people experienced the issue, and those who did would know it, and those who didn't need not pay any attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: moving files from a folder

Bill White
 

Hi, Brian. Using This PC is the only shortcut anyone needs to access a drive or folder. I find it much more convenient not to worry about if a folder is open or closed, as I do if I am in the tree view.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving files from a folder

 

On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM, Bill White wrote:

Yes, use the This PC icon, which can be put on the desktop. Then just arrow down to whatever device (or drive) you want to open. Then you don't need to open and close drives. Just press enter on the folder and you are inside it. This ensures that when you do a copy or paste, you are actually inside the folder where you want the files or folders to be copied from, or pasted into.

-
Bill,

Not that I'm arguing anything that you've said, but this is still using File Explorer, just invoking it such that a specific folder opens when it opens.

What you propose is a great convenience, and a wonderful functional workaround.  But if someone is having consistent issues navigating File Explorer, I'd also say that they need to practice, practice, practice.  It's such a fundamental part of using Windows, and you'll never have desktop shortcuts for every folder you ever want to access, that developing confidence in using File Explorer is time incredibly well spent.

Not only that, but it's not difficult to get the hang of, either.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019


moderated Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

Hi,

As for the question of “was it fixed”, Microsoft and Vispero says it is fixed but I’d put some salt into it just in case it shows up again (the issue was traced to Microsoft Installer component).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Win 10 problem

 

Joseph,

            Thanks.  I hadn't even thought of that.  But since a workaround was given it was the "did it get fixed?" part of the original quesiton that threw me.  The only messages about this that I did see included the fix.

             I also didn't see this announcement as saying that Windows Update did anything, specifically, to JAWS files but that there was an issue with JAWS files "playing well" with Windows after the update.

             It was also one of those things where only some people experienced the issue, and those who did would know it, and those who didn't need not pay any attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

       ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

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