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moderated Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Dave Durber
 

Adrian:
 
Once you are in the System Menu by pressing ALT+SPACE BAR, press the letter R, to restore the current window; M, to move the current Window; S, to size the current Window; N, to minimize the current Window; x, to maximize the current Window; C, to close, although, when you press the letter C, to use this option, nothing seems to happen,
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Hi Curtis and Tony,

 

To add to Curtis’s excellent questions, one more that might save a little trouble if the answer is no: has your wife maximized the page? To check, press alt-spacebar, release and then arrow up or down through the options. If maximized isn’t grayed out, press the spacebar on it. If it is grayed out, then maximization isn’t the source of the problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

 

Hello Tony:

 

I looked at the page whose link you provided, which was https://sunvalleycc.online.church/. I am running JAWS 2022 with Windows 10 21H1. I have access to the latest versions of Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome. I also have Mozilla Firefox.

 

On the page which appears when you activate the above link, none of my browsers will see an edit box when the JAWS command “e” is pressed. However, it is interesting that Forms Mode is automatically turned on. Here are a couple of questions that might help to address the differences in behavior between your and your wife’s computer.

 

1.            Is there supposed to be an edit box or field on the page which comes up when the above link is activated?

 

2.            Are you both using the same Web browser? If so, what browser is it?

 

3.            Are you both running with the same version of JAWS? What version would that be, and if your versions are different, can you tell us what version of JAWS runs on your computer and what version runs on your wife’s system?

 

4.            What about operating systems? Are you both running Windows 10 or is each one of you using a different operating system? If the latter, can you tell us what operating systems?

 

What we have here is only some of the information we need to attempt to address your issue.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

 

wWe are having an issue with JAWS and form fields on a website.

 

We are serving at our church and it's online and using an online

platform that normally works with Jaws.

 

For some reason, on my wife's laptop computer,  when she goes to press

the leter E to go to the fiorm field, it keeps telling her there are no

form fields on thsi page.

 

However, when I run the same page on my laptop, I can press ther letter

E to see the form fields and it works properly.

 

We are wondering if she has a newer version of windows than I do.

 

What is causing this not to work? On other web pages, she can go to the

edit fields.

 

Here is the website we are having issues with.

 

https://sunvalleycc.online.church/

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

David Moore
 

I like Google Chrome better as well!

The settings in Edge are not as easy to get to as in Chrome!

I like to change my settings a lot!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Mich Verrier
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

 

I laso use google crom how eer I have not ehrd about ms discontinuing the abillidey for people to use crome from next year. I don't use edge and hardly use firefox. From Mich.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English

Sent: November 15, 2021 5:34 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

 

I would have to say google chrome, although it's a bit buggy on some computers. IE is still the best accessibility-wise but Microsoft has decided nobody is allowed to use it from next year.

 

On 11/15/21, Judy <bunchkinbear@...> wrote:

> Hi, I like google chrome the best. Judy & Libby

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io

> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:57 PM

> To: jfw@groups.io

> Subject: seeking advice regarding web browsers

> hi,

> Thanks to those who answered my earlier question about windows 10

> versus Windows 11. I will be sticking with windows 10, thanks to your

> unanimous opinions!

> when I last used a PC, I was using Internet explorer. That is no

> longer an option. I am curious as to which Web browsers people

> recommend for best use with Jaws.

> Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

tina sohl
 

Hi everyone. Thanks Steve, for the tip. I didn't know that. It seems
if I just make sure the site's maximized, it works as it should. I
didn't have to think about that until after a recent windows update,
but a simple fix is nice.
Tina

On 11/15/21, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Pro tip: You can press Windows and up Arrow to maximise as well.



All the best


Steve



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 14 November 2021 22:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages



Hi Curtis and Tony,



To add to Curtis's excellent questions, one more that might save a little
trouble if the answer is no: has your wife maximized the page? To check,
press alt-spacebar, release and then arrow up or down through the options.
If maximized isn't grayed out, press the spacebar on it. If it is grayed
out, then maximization isn't the source of the problem.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws wil not work on some web pages



Hello Tony:



I looked at the page whose link you provided, which was
https://sunvalleycc.online.church/. I am running JAWS 2022 with Windows 10
21H1. I have access to the latest versions of Microsoft Edge and Google
Chrome. I also have Mozilla Firefox.



On the page which appears when you activate the above link, none of my
browsers will see an edit box when the JAWS command "e" is pressed.
However,
it is interesting that Forms Mode is automatically turned on. Here are a
couple of questions that might help to address the differences in behavior
between your and your wife's computer.



1. Is there supposed to be an edit box or field on the page
which
comes up when the above link is activated?



2. Are you both using the same Web browser? If so, what browser
is it?



3. Are you both running with the same version of JAWS? What
version would that be, and if your versions are different, can you tell us
what version of JAWS runs on your computer and what version runs on your
wife's system?



4. What about operating systems? Are you both running Windows 10
or is each one of you using a different operating system? If the latter,
can
you tell us what operating systems?



What we have here is only some of the information we need to attempt to
address your issue.



With kind regards,



Curtis Chong







-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws wil not work on some web pages



wWe are having an issue with JAWS and form fields on a website.



We are serving at our church and it's online and using an online

platform that normally works with Jaws.



For some reason, on my wife's laptop computer, when she goes to press

the leter E to go to the fiorm field, it keeps telling her there are no

form fields on thsi page.



However, when I run the same page on my laptop, I can press ther letter

E to see the form fields and it works properly.



We are wondering if she has a newer version of windows than I do.



What is causing this not to work? On other web pages, she can go to the

edit fields.



Here is the website we are having issues with.



https://sunvalleycc.online.church/



















moderated Re: Remote Desktop

Abraham Sweiss
 

Windows remote desktop. However I figured out what the issue was. For some reason Jaws no longer speaks out when the window is minimized.

Thanks,abraham 

On Nov 15, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:



Are you talking about using Tandem, or Windows Remote Desktop?

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: 12 November 2021 14:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop

 

OK, I had to access a remote desktop today and the keys aiuse to use don’t work. Were you ever able to figure out how to minimize the remote desktop screen?

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:



I am going from memory, I believe the key combination is

Ctrl plus Alta plus either break or page up.

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:



Hi, I thought that when in Remote Desktop you could lock the input Window by using Control+Shift+ the Break key.

That is not obviously the correct key. I cannot find it in the Remote Access help section so I’m now asking nicely if anyone can help me out.


moderated Re: Remote Desktop

Steve Nutt
 

Are you talking about using Tandem, or Windows Remote Desktop?

 

All the best


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: 12 November 2021 14:19
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop

 

OK, I had to access a remote desktop today and the keys aiuse to use don’t work. Were you ever able to figure out how to minimize the remote desktop screen?

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:



I am going from memory, I believe the key combination is

Ctrl plus Alta plus either break or page up.

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:



Hi, I thought that when in Remote Desktop you could lock the input Window by using Control+Shift+ the Break key.

That is not obviously the correct key. I cannot find it in the Remote Access help section so I’m now asking nicely if anyone can help me out.


moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

Mich Verrier
 

I laso use google crom how eer I have not ehrd about ms discontinuing the abillidey for people to use crome from next year. I don't use edge and hardly use firefox. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: November 15, 2021 5:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

I would have to say google chrome, although it's a bit buggy on some computers. IE is still the best accessibility-wise but Microsoft has decided nobody is allowed to use it from next year.

On 11/15/21, Judy <bunchkinbear@...> wrote:
Hi, I like google chrome the best. Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: seeking advice regarding web browsers

hi,
Thanks to those who answered my earlier question about windows 10
versus Windows 11. I will be sticking with windows 10, thanks to your
unanimous opinions!
when I last used a PC, I was using Internet explorer. That is no
longer an option. I am curious as to which Web browsers people
recommend for best use with Jaws.
Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith










moderated Re: seeking advice concerning web browsers

Mich Verrier
 

I use google crome after using Internet explorer for years. I also use firefox but not as offen as I use crom. I also didn'thear anything about ms discontinuing the use of Croe next year. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: November 15, 2021 5:40 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: seeking advice concerning web browsers

I use Google Chrome...but about a month ago I downloaded c cleaner browser and I use it most of the time. It is fast/more secure and works just super...I am


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moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

 

Here's a vote against Chrome, not because it isn't a great browser, but because it is a personal browsing history vacuum for Google.  It's also far from the only Chromium based browser with sync capabilities.  The Microsoft Edge browser is Chromium-based with sync as are Vivaldi and Brave, both of which have a strong privacy focus (which can cause rare issues with certain sites, so you still need to be prepared to use Edge, Chrome, or Firefox).

As far as Firefox goes, and it's not like I use a screen reader extensively and constantly with any browser, the newer versions don't seem to be having a problem with NVDA.  Web browsers as a class are one of the most fluid and dynamic classes of software in existence.  What may have been true one week and one dot release ago may not be true today.  It's a PITA to do repeat checking over time, but that's still worth doing for browsers you've used and liked, but may have changed away from due to performance issues or other misbehaviors when using a screen reader with them.
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moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

James English
 

Hi Steve,

I only like it more because of Chrome's odd love of crashing on this
computer which I can't explain. It's a very modern i7 system with
windows 10 and jaws 2021, but sometimes chrome will just exit without
warning.

On 11/15/21, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Wow, I don't like IE any more having used Chrome.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: 15 November 2021 10:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

I would have to say google chrome, although it's a bit buggy on some
computers. IE is still the best accessibility-wise but Microsoft has decided
nobody is allowed to use it from next year.

On 11/15/21, Judy <bunchkinbear@...> wrote:
Hi, I like google chrome the best. Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: seeking advice regarding web browsers

hi,
Thanks to those who answered my earlier question about windows 10
versus Windows 11. I will be sticking with windows 10, thanks to your
unanimous opinions!
when I last used a PC, I was using Internet explorer. That is no
longer an option. I am curious as to which Web browsers people
recommend for best use with Jaws.
Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith





















moderated Re: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hey Steve!
What I actually want to do is include those voices in the "Text-To-Speech" control panel, the main one of Windows 10. The one where the voices like "Microsoft David" are found. 

On 11/15/2021 6:54 AM Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:


Hi Anabel,

 

Just go into JAWS, then Options, then Voices, then Add More Voices, and you can do it that way.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 14 November 2021 23:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows


Hey Paul!

What I was actually trying to do was add voices like Tom, Emily, Serena, Daniel, Jennifer, Jill, and the like, to the Windows 10 Text-To-Speech panel. Is that actually possible? If so, what do I do?

On 11/14/2021 3:27 PM paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:



Hi Annabelle,

 

I too have the old real speak voices cd which jaws used to ship with their older versions of jaws, I still use those voices on my windows 64bit system since the ones shipped on cd although only 32bit they could be used with third party software, so I often use those voices when playing audio games since I prefer those voices to the built in Microsoft voices. If you want the new 64bit voices for jaws you can download these   directly from the freedom scientific website, the newer 64bit voices I believe are called ‘Vocaliser voices’. I’ll put the link below, the voices downloaded from their site though can only be used with jaws , but those are the voices I’d recommend you use if you just want to add additional voices to your installation of Jaws.  If you do however specifically  want to use the real speak voices from your cd I do have a modified installer which will let you install them on a 64bit machine, this is a modified version of the installer though so not an official release from jaws  but something just created by a jaws user. Since it uses the voices from  your CD these are still only 32bit voices and are now somewhat old and dated  so they won’t sound as good as the newer vocaliser  voices. If you do want the installer, To avoid breaking any list rules I can send the modified installer but it won’t actually include any   of the real speak voices, so it’s just the modified installation file itself without any voices, therefore you’ll need the actual CD itself to get the voices from, as without the CD the installer won’t do anything as previously mentioned the installation file doesn’t contain any voices at all. anyway, like I said earlier the best thing if you want just the most up to date voices for Jaws is to use the ones from their website, the link to that is below you just need to select the link that is appropriate to your specific version  of Jaws

 

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/synthesizers

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 14 November 2021 22:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows


Hi, it's Annabelle.

I have a CD Rom of Realspeak Solo voices that came with JAWS 4.5, which includes Javier (Latin American Spanish), Tom (American English), Jennifer (American English), Emily (British English), (Daniel (British English), Serena (British English), and Paulina (Latin American Spanish), but I can't get these voices to load into JAWS 2021 in Windows 10, as the disk says they're specifically for 32-bit systems. Is there a CD ROM out there that has 64-bit versions of these SAPI 5 voices?




moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

Steve Nutt
 

Wow, I don't like IE any more having used Chrome.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: 15 November 2021 10:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

I would have to say google chrome, although it's a bit buggy on some computers. IE is still the best accessibility-wise but Microsoft has decided nobody is allowed to use it from next year.

On 11/15/21, Judy <bunchkinbear@...> wrote:
Hi, I like google chrome the best. Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: seeking advice regarding web browsers

hi,
Thanks to those who answered my earlier question about windows 10
versus Windows 11. I will be sticking with windows 10, thanks to your
unanimous opinions!
when I last used a PC, I was using Internet explorer. That is no
longer an option. I am curious as to which Web browsers people
recommend for best use with Jaws.
Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith










moderated Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

Steve Nutt
 

So do I because it syncs across my Android, iOS and PC.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: 15 November 2021 05:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice regarding web browsers

Hi, I like google chrome the best. Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: seeking advice regarding web browsers

hi,
Thanks to those who answered my earlier question about windows 10 versus
Windows 11. I will be sticking with windows 10, thanks to your unanimous
opinions!
when I last used a PC, I was using Internet explorer. That is no longer an
option. I am curious as to which Web browsers people recommend for best use
with Jaws.
Thanks in advance for any insights. Keith


moderated Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Steve Nutt
 

This also applies to Chrome or any other browser.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 15 November 2021 00:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Tina,
You can make maximized the permanent setting for Microsoft Edge by going to the icon on the desktop, pressing alt-enter for properties, then tabbing past the shortcut option to "Run as..." Use the arrow keys to find maximize and press the spacebar. Then tab to Apply. You'll be told you can't because you need administrative rights, but press spacebar again and you'll get them! Then press spacebar on Apply again, then tab to Okay.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Thanks Adrian, for suggesting to check the maximazation. I think that fixed it. I'd completely forgotten, I so rarely have to do that. Will try and remember with this site.
Tina

On 11/14/21, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@...> wrote:
Hi it will work on other pages and just not the church page. On hsn,
it works fine, on gogle it works fine and everything esle, but not the
page we are having issues with on my wi9fe's computer only.

That is very strange!






moderated Re: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Anabel,

 

Just go into JAWS, then Options, then Voices, then Add More Voices, and you can do it that way.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 14 November 2021 23:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows

 

Hey Paul!

What I was actually trying to do was add voices like Tom, Emily, Serena, Daniel, Jennifer, Jill, and the like, to the Windows 10 Text-To-Speech panel. Is that actually possible? If so, what do I do?

On 11/14/2021 3:27 PM paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Annabelle,

 

I too have the old real speak voices cd which jaws used to ship with their older versions of jaws, I still use those voices on my windows 64bit system since the ones shipped on cd although only 32bit they could be used with third party software, so I often use those voices when playing audio games since I prefer those voices to the built in Microsoft voices. If you want the new 64bit voices for jaws you can download these   directly from the freedom scientific website, the newer 64bit voices I believe are called ‘Vocaliser voices’. I’ll put the link below, the voices downloaded from their site though can only be used with jaws , but those are the voices I’d recommend you use if you just want to add additional voices to your installation of Jaws.  If you do however specifically  want to use the real speak voices from your cd I do have a modified installer which will let you install them on a 64bit machine, this is a modified version of the installer though so not an official release from jaws  but something just created by a jaws user. Since it uses the voices from  your CD these are still only 32bit voices and are now somewhat old and dated  so they won’t sound as good as the newer vocaliser  voices. If you do want the installer, To avoid breaking any list rules I can send the modified installer but it won’t actually include any   of the real speak voices, so it’s just the modified installation file itself without any voices, therefore you’ll need the actual CD itself to get the voices from, as without the CD the installer won’t do anything as previously mentioned the installation file doesn’t contain any voices at all. anyway, like I said earlier the best thing if you want just the most up to date voices for Jaws is to use the ones from their website, the link to that is below you just need to select the link that is appropriate to your specific version  of Jaws

 

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/synthesizers

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 14 November 2021 22:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: SAPI 5 Voices For Windows

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I have a CD Rom of Realspeak Solo voices that came with JAWS 4.5, which includes Javier (Latin American Spanish), Tom (American English), Jennifer (American English), Emily (British English), (Daniel (British English), Serena (British English), and Paulina (Latin American Spanish), but I can't get these voices to load into JAWS 2021 in Windows 10, as the disk says they're specifically for 32-bit systems. Is there a CD ROM out there that has 64-bit versions of these SAPI 5 voices?

 


moderated Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Steve Nutt
 

It seems to be a problem with the website itself from what I can hear. It's not completely loading I don't think.

All the best

Steve

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: 14 November 2021 23:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Hi everyone. I appreciate you trying to help us. No, I haven't checked the maximation and I'm running chrome as my main browser. Yes an edit field pops up when the page loads. Interesting to me that it was working today in edge the way it used to in chrome, meaning I could login as a host and chat as I once could in chrome. Tony thought I should take chrome off then put it back on which i did, and which made no difference.
Tina

On 11/14/21, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:
Hi Curtis and Tony,

To add to Curtis's excellent questions, one more that might save a
little trouble if the answer is no: has your wife maximized the page?
To check, press alt-spacebar, release and then arrow up or down through the options.
If maximized isn't grayed out, press the spacebar on it. If it is
grayed out, then maximization isn't the source of the problem.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis
Chong
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

Hello Tony:

I looked at the page whose link you provided, which was
https://sunvalleycc.online.church/. I am running JAWS 2022 with
Windows 10 21H1. I have access to the latest versions of Microsoft
Edge and Google Chrome. I also have Mozilla Firefox.

On the page which appears when you activate the above link, none of my
browsers will see an edit box when the JAWS command "e" is pressed.
However, it is interesting that Forms Mode is automatically turned on.
Here are a couple of questions that might help to address the
differences in behavior between your and your wife's computer.

1. Is there supposed to be an edit box or field on the page which
comes up when the above link is activated?

2. Are you both using the same Web browser? If so, what browser
is it?

3. Are you both running with the same version of JAWS? What
version would that be, and if your versions are different, can you
tell us what version of JAWS runs on your computer and what version
runs on your wife's system?

4. What about operating systems? Are you both running Windows 10
or is each one of you using a different operating system? If the
latter, can you tell us what operating systems?

What we have here is only some of the information we need to attempt
to address your issue.

With kind regards,

Curtis Chong






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From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws wil not work on some web pages



wWe are having an issue with JAWS and form fields on a website.



We are serving at our church and it's online and using an online

platform that normally works with Jaws.



For some reason, on my wife's laptop computer, when she goes to press

the leter E to go to the fiorm field, it keeps telling her there are
no

form fields on thsi page.



However, when I run the same page on my laptop, I can press ther
letter

E to see the form fields and it works properly.



We are wondering if she has a newer version of windows than I do.



What is causing this not to work? On other web pages, she can go to
the

edit fields.



Here is the website we are having issues with.



https://sunvalleycc.online.church/

















moderated Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

Steve Nutt
 

Pro tip: You can press Windows and up Arrow to maximise as well.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 14 November 2021 22:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws will not work on some web pages

 

Hi Curtis and Tony,

 

To add to Curtis’s excellent questions, one more that might save a little trouble if the answer is no: has your wife maximized the page? To check, press alt-spacebar, release and then arrow up or down through the options. If maximized isn’t grayed out, press the spacebar on it. If it is grayed out, then maximization isn’t the source of the problem.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

 

Hello Tony:

 

I looked at the page whose link you provided, which was https://sunvalleycc.online.church/. I am running JAWS 2022 with Windows 10 21H1. I have access to the latest versions of Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome. I also have Mozilla Firefox.

 

On the page which appears when you activate the above link, none of my browsers will see an edit box when the JAWS command “e” is pressed. However, it is interesting that Forms Mode is automatically turned on. Here are a couple of questions that might help to address the differences in behavior between your and your wife’s computer.

 

1.            Is there supposed to be an edit box or field on the page which comes up when the above link is activated?

 

2.            Are you both using the same Web browser? If so, what browser is it?

 

3.            Are you both running with the same version of JAWS? What version would that be, and if your versions are different, can you tell us what version of JAWS runs on your computer and what version runs on your wife’s system?

 

4.            What about operating systems? Are you both running Windows 10 or is each one of you using a different operating system? If the latter, can you tell us what operating systems?

 

What we have here is only some of the information we need to attempt to address your issue.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

 

wWe are having an issue with JAWS and form fields on a website.

 

We are serving at our church and it's online and using an online

platform that normally works with Jaws.

 

For some reason, on my wife's laptop computer,  when she goes to press

the leter E to go to the fiorm field, it keeps telling her there are no

form fields on thsi page.

 

However, when I run the same page on my laptop, I can press ther letter

E to see the form fields and it works properly.

 

We are wondering if she has a newer version of windows than I do.

 

What is causing this not to work? On other web pages, she can go to the

edit fields.

 

Here is the website we are having issues with.

 

https://sunvalleycc.online.church/

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

What happens if you press JAWS Key plus Escape on her laptop to refresh the
screen after, the web page is loaded?

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Sohl
Sent: 14 November 2021 21:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws wil not work on some web pages

wWe are having an issue with JAWS and form fields on a website.

We are serving at our church and it's online and using an online platform
that normally works with Jaws.

For some reason, on my wife's laptop computer, when she goes to press the
leter E to go to the fiorm field, it keeps telling her there are no form
fields on thsi page.

However, when I run the same page on my laptop, I can press ther letter E to
see the form fields and it works properly.

We are wondering if she has a newer version of windows than I do.

What is causing this not to work? On other web pages, she can go to the edit
fields.

Here is the website we are having issues with.

https://sunvalleycc.online.church/


moderated Re: Extra Verbiage in the November 2021 JAWS 2021 Update When Using Alt+Tab to Cycle Between All Running Applications

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I also can’t duplicate the problem with JAWS 2021. However, I have seen it with Narrator as well.

 

Does it happen to you with Narrator?

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: 13 November 2021 18:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Extra Verbiage in the November 2021 JAWS 2021 Update When Using Alt+Tab to Cycle Between All Running Applications

 

I’m not sure if others have noticed this problem. I will say that this does not affect any of the JAWS 2022 betas or the final version.

With the latest update for JAWS 2021 I am noticing some extra wording when holding down the alt key and repeatedly pressing the tab key to navigate through running applications. When you first press this key combination JAWS will say “”task switching, running applications list box.” I have noticed this behavior on two different computers, both of which are running Windows 10 version 21 H1.

This behavior does not occur if you press and then release alt+tab to open the last application which had focus.

I have reported this to Vispero support but they were unable to duplicate the problem.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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moderated Working with comments/revisions in Google Docs

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi all,

As part of my job, I have to collaborate with colleagues using Google
Docs. The comments and revisions that they make are hard to access
using Docs for me. So I often end up just downloading the document
into Word. It is quite hard to access these changes in Word as well as
JAWS does not typically treat them the way it treats
comments/revisions made in a word document.

The main difficulty I face in accessing comments is that the
keystrokes that are supposed to help you get into a comment's text
don't work for me. So even if I know that there is a comment on the
word Rahul, I am unable to open that comment up and see its contents.
And as for revisions, I do not know how one can jump from one revision
to another. Can someone who uses Docs regularly in this way help me,
please?

Warmly,
Rahul

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moderated seeking advice concerning web browsers

G. Gray
 

I use Google Chrome...but about a month ago I downloaded c cleaner browser and I use it most of the time.  It is fast/more secure and works just super...I am


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