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moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. You only need install these updates if you have JAWS 2020, or JAWS 2021 on your computer, and want to use them to tandem with JAWS 2022 users.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hello, everyone.

 

To clarify, am I correct in saying that those of us who have installed Jaws 2022 do not need to worry about this tandem update?

 

I ask this because, on one of my Windows 10 computers with Jaws 2022, Tandem is sometimes automatically activated when I re-boot the computer after a complete shutdown.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi again, Mike. Please ignore my last message. My mistake! The first update you offered was for JAWS 2020, which I uninstalled. The second is for JAWS 2021, which I applied. I mistakenly thought it was supposed to be an update for JAWS 2022. This JAWS 2021 update was actually released in November, not October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

 If you're only running JAWS2022 then you don't need these updates.  But, if you have  either or both JAWS2020 & JAWS2021 installed you need both the earlier versions so they can tandem with JAWS2022.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Hello, everyone.

 

To clarify, am I correct in saying that those of us who have installed Jaws 2022 do not need to worry about this tandem update?

 

I ask this because, on one of my Windows 10 computers with Jaws 2022, Tandem is sometimes automatically activated when I re-boot the computer after a complete shutdown.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi again, Mike. Please ignore my last message. My mistake! The first update you offered was for JAWS 2020, which I uninstalled. The second is for JAWS 2021, which I applied. I mistakenly thought it was supposed to be an update for JAWS 2022. This JAWS 2021 update was actually released in November, not October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

To clarify, am I correct in saying that those of us who have installed Jaws 2022 do not need to worry about this tandem update?

 

I ask this because, on one of my Windows 10 computers with Jaws 2022, Tandem is sometimes automatically activated when I re-boot the computer after a complete shutdown.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 6:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi again, Mike. Please ignore my last message. My mistake! The first update you offered was for JAWS 2020, which I uninstalled. The second is for JAWS 2021, which I applied. I mistakenly thought it was supposed to be an update for JAWS 2022. This JAWS 2021 update was actually released in November, not October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

Bill,
 
This is not the October update!  Go to the website and check for yourself, or compare the build of the version of your current J2021 installation against this update.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Hi, Mike. The JAWS 2021 file in question is not a new update, and was released in October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Bill White
 

Hi again, Mike. Please ignore my last message. My mistake! The first update you offered was for JAWS 2020, which I uninstalled. The second is for JAWS 2021, which I applied. I mistakenly thought it was supposed to be an update for JAWS 2022. This JAWS 2021 update was actually released in November, not October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Bill White
 

Hi, Mike. The JAWS 2021 file in question is not a new update, and was released in October.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:01 PM
To: JList
Subject: Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

 

Hi All,

 

For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.

 

Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.

 

 

J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:

 

 

Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)

 

The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.

 

• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2021.2111.2 Update Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
 
Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.
 
 
J2021.2111.2 32 & 64 bit:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2021.2111.2 (November 2021)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the July 2021 release and the November 2021 update.
 
• For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
• Made several improvements to Windows 11 support.
• Improved JAWS reading of text in Google Docs containing multiple proofing attributes, such as content that is highlighted and also includes a comment.
• When navigating a table in Google Docs, JAWS now announces the current row or column after reading the cell contents. Additionally, if you have turned
off the announcement of table cell coordinates in Quick Settings, JAWS now only reads the cell contents as expected when using the table reading commands
(ALT+CTRL+ARROW Keys).
• Addressed issues in Google Docs where JAWS was not properly indicating inserted, deleted, or commented text at the start or end of a line or a table
cell.
• Addressed an issue with JAWS not reading as expected in some instances when navigating by character.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a suggestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not indicating the start of commented text in Google Docs when navigating by word.
list end
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Attention JAWS Users! Special November J2020.2110.3 Update Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
 
Below is the download link + what else is new in this release.
 
 
J2020.2110.3 32 & 64 bit:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2020.2110.3 (November 2021)
 
For those who use the Tandem feature, this update is required if you need to establish a Tandem connection with JAWS or Fusion 2022 or higher.
 
To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.
You must be logged on as an administrator to install this software.
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2020.2012.9 (December 2020)
 
The following is a list of improvements made between the August 2020 release and the December 2020 update.
 
list of 15 items
• In the 2020 December Update, we have included a fix that will help users of ZoomText and Fusion in the future when they uninstall that version yet continue
to use later versions. There was a problem in earlier 2020 versions where it was impacting shared components with other versions such as the most recent
release. We encourage anyone who still has the 2020 versions installed, to please update  now even if you are not currently using it.
• Fixed a long-standing issue in File Explorer where JAWS would often not announce the correct number of files in the current folder.
• JAWS now properly reads as expected in Skype when moving focus back to the app without the need to first press ALT and ESC.
• When launching the Skype app included in Windows 10, JAWS now loads the correct settings files.
• While in a Zoom meeting, you can now press CTRL+SHIFT+T to find out who is currently talking. Zoom recently added this option with CTRL+2 but we were
previously using it for a JAWS feature.
• Removed the announcement of Tutor Messages in Microsoft Office Ribbons as they were very verbose when attempting to navigate.
• Resolved an issue when selecting all text (CTRL+A) in  a large Word document. This action would cause JAWS to hang for several seconds.
• Addressed an issue in Word documents where JAWS was not announcing indentation increments when pressing TAB.
• Resolved an issue in Excel where JAWS was not reading the selected item in various combo boxes in the Font dialog box.
• Resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading the Auto  Complete options in the Chrome Address bar.
• Addressed an issue where same page links were not always working as expected in Chrome or Edge Chromium.
• Added five new Japanese voices to the Add/Remove Voices utility, which allows you to sample and download Vocalizer Expressive 2 voices for use with JAWS,
ZoomText, and Fusion.
• Resolved an issue with navigating to the configuration editor in Thunderbird Email when running JAWS or Fusion.
• Addressed reports of JAWS performance issues encountered after accessing the Start menu multiple times.
• Updated braille drivers provided by Papenmeire.
list end
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Special Update Code in About JAWS screen

Bill White
 

Does anyone know what the "Special Update Code is used for, which is found in the About JAWS screen? When I pressed the button dedicated to the Special Update Code, the only character in the edit box was zero.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

Marty Hutchings
 

I don't have JAWS 22 yet, but in JAWS 21 while in an Excel sheet, the hot key combination for row headings is INSERT+ALT+CONTROL+R and for columns, it is INSERT+ALT+CONTROL+C.  HTH.

On 11/12/2021 2:01 PM, tom x wrote:
Hi,

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013


How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?


Thanks



Tom





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moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excel

tom x <ballistic719@...>
 

Thanks for the info Ben.


Will go take a look.


Tom


On 13/11/2021 6:22 am, Ben Moxey wrote:

Hi Tom

 

Check out this official tutorial from the Freedom Scientific team. It's dated, but still relevant. The great thing about doing it this way is that the header information is saved in the Excel file. Therefore, if you share it with someone else, it will still work regardless of the screen reader they’re using.

 

Column and Row Headers in Excel with JAWS and MAGic (freedomscientific.com)

 

Note that if you only have one data region on a sheet, you don’t have to specify a cell range. The headers will simply continue as you add more row/column data.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

 

Hi,

 

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013

 

 

How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excel

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Tom

 

Check out this official tutorial from the Freedom Scientific team. It's dated, but still relevant. The great thing about doing it this way is that the header information is saved in the Excel file. Therefore, if you share it with someone else, it will still work regardless of the screen reader they’re using.

 

Column and Row Headers in Excel with JAWS and MAGic (freedomscientific.com)

 

Note that if you only have one data region on a sheet, you don’t have to specify a cell range. The headers will simply continue as you add more row/column data.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

 

Hi,

 

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013

 

 

How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Ben Moxey
 

Hi William

 

To stop web pages and PDF documents from automatically reading in all relevant applications:

  1. Press the JAWS key + 6 (on the number row) to load Settings Centre.
  2. Press Control + Shift + D (for Delta) to modify default settings.
  3. Down arrow to “Web/HTML/PDFs” and right arrow to open.
  4. Down arrow to “Reading” and right arrow to open.
  5. Down arrow to “Document and web pages automatically read when loaded” and uncheck this option.
  6. Tab to Ok and hit Enter.

 

Note that you can follow the same steps from within a particular application and avoid switching to default settings if you don’t want to change this across the board.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Vandervest
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and web pages question

 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

 

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moderated Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

tom x <ballistic719@...>
 

Hi,

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013


How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?


Thanks



Tom


moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Vaughan Dodd <vdodd001@...>
 

Agree here Glenn.

 

Oh for the nostalgia of Window-eyes!

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 6:50 am
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and web pages question

 

I liked the way window eyes opened web pages, it would read the title and stop there.

I hate it when a page is slow to load and it keeps reading and reading and I step away for something and the page is going on and on.

I too have wondered if Jaws has a setting to not read the whole page.

Glenn

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Subject: Jaws and web pages question

 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

William Vandervest

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Chris
 

Maybe you should follow the rules , especially rule 2.

 

 

From: Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: 12 November 2021 15:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

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The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
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moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Glenn / Lenny
 

I liked the way window eyes opened web pages, it would read the title and stop there.
I hate it when a page is slow to load and it keeps reading and reading and I step away for something and the page is going on and on.
I too have wondered if Jaws has a setting to not read the whole page.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:43 AM
Subject: Jaws and web pages question

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

William Vandervest

timelord09@...

Win10 latest revision

 

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

 

William Vandervest

 

 

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moderated Jaws and web pages question

William Vandervest
 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

William Vandervest

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Dan Longmore
 

Ken,

 The activity on any list ebbs and flows.  The “windows” list is also down the last few days.

This list offers many quality, effective, answers. 

Don’t compare lists for there are too many variables.  The moderator of this list  does well.

Many lists use auto e-mails for 1st of the month.

 

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

When:
11/01/2021
12:00am to 1:00am
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

View Event

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 10:58 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I've noticed on the over moderated Jaws list, people will have general windows questions, or about a program, but feel as though they have to include how to do something with Jaws, even though it is not really a Jaws question, just to have the question be considered a Jaws question.
That is the result of over moderation.
-
No, it's not.  It's the result of not thinking about what you're asking about.

On every screen reader group I've participated in there are members who think that a question about some given piece of software, with the phrase "with {insert screen reader name here}," makes it a screen reader related question.  It isn't.

If you want to know the keyboard shortcuts or other information about an MS-Office program, web browser, media player, and the list goes on and on that's an entirely separate issue from how to use any given screen reader on top of it.   It is incumbent on those asking questions to actually think about what it is, really, the question pertains to.  Tacking on, "with {insert screen reader name here}," doesn't magically make it about the screen reader.  The question, "How do I turn on bold formatting on selected text in MS-Word with JAWS?," is not, in any way, shape, or form, about JAWS.  It's about Word and a keyboard shortcut it uses regardless of whether a screen reader is involved or not.
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