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moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

Marty Hutchings
 

I don't have JAWS 22 yet, but in JAWS 21 while in an Excel sheet, the hot key combination for row headings is INSERT+ALT+CONTROL+R and for columns, it is INSERT+ALT+CONTROL+C.  HTH.

On 11/12/2021 2:01 PM, tom x wrote:
Hi,

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013


How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?


Thanks



Tom





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moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excel

tom x <ballistic719@...>
 

Thanks for the info Ben.


Will go take a look.


Tom


On 13/11/2021 6:22 am, Ben Moxey wrote:

Hi Tom

 

Check out this official tutorial from the Freedom Scientific team. It's dated, but still relevant. The great thing about doing it this way is that the header information is saved in the Excel file. Therefore, if you share it with someone else, it will still work regardless of the screen reader they’re using.

 

Column and Row Headers in Excel with JAWS and MAGic (freedomscientific.com)

 

Note that if you only have one data region on a sheet, you don’t have to specify a cell range. The headers will simply continue as you add more row/column data.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

 

Hi,

 

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013

 

 

How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws reading column row headings in Excel

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Tom

 

Check out this official tutorial from the Freedom Scientific team. It's dated, but still relevant. The great thing about doing it this way is that the header information is saved in the Excel file. Therefore, if you share it with someone else, it will still work regardless of the screen reader they’re using.

 

Column and Row Headers in Excel with JAWS and MAGic (freedomscientific.com)

 

Note that if you only have one data region on a sheet, you don’t have to specify a cell range. The headers will simply continue as you add more row/column data.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

 

Hi,

 

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013

 

 

How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Ben Moxey
 

Hi William

 

To stop web pages and PDF documents from automatically reading in all relevant applications:

  1. Press the JAWS key + 6 (on the number row) to load Settings Centre.
  2. Press Control + Shift + D (for Delta) to modify default settings.
  3. Down arrow to “Web/HTML/PDFs” and right arrow to open.
  4. Down arrow to “Reading” and right arrow to open.
  5. Down arrow to “Document and web pages automatically read when loaded” and uncheck this option.
  6. Tab to Ok and hit Enter.

 

Note that you can follow the same steps from within a particular application and avoid switching to default settings if you don’t want to change this across the board.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Vandervest
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and web pages question

 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

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moderated Jaws reading column row headings in Excell

tom x <ballistic719@...>
 

Hi,

Using: Jaws 22, Win 10 and Excell 2013


How can Jaws be set up so column and row headings will be spoken when arrowing across or up/down a Excel spread sheet?


Thanks



Tom


moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Vaughan Dodd
 

Agree here Glenn.

 

Oh for the nostalgia of Window-eyes!

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2021 6:50 am
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and web pages question

 

I liked the way window eyes opened web pages, it would read the title and stop there.

I hate it when a page is slow to load and it keeps reading and reading and I step away for something and the page is going on and on.

I too have wondered if Jaws has a setting to not read the whole page.

Glenn

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Subject: Jaws and web pages question

 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Chris
 

Maybe you should follow the rules , especially rule 2.

 

 

From: Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: 12 November 2021 15:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

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2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

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moderated Re: Jaws and web pages question

Glenn / Lenny
 

I liked the way window eyes opened web pages, it would read the title and stop there.
I hate it when a page is slow to load and it keeps reading and reading and I step away for something and the page is going on and on.
I too have wondered if Jaws has a setting to not read the whole page.
Glenn

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:43 AM
Subject: Jaws and web pages question

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

William Vandervest

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moderated Jaws and web pages question

William Vandervest
 

How can I prevent Jaws trying to read the whole web page when it loads,is this a verbocity issue?  

I am using JFW 2022 Win 10 ver 21h2 and MS edge latest update.

Thanks

 

 

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Dan Longmore
 

Ken,

 The activity on any list ebbs and flows.  The “windows” list is also down the last few days.

This list offers many quality, effective, answers. 

Don’t compare lists for there are too many variables.  The moderator of this list  does well.

Many lists use auto e-mails for 1st of the month.

 

Dan

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

When:
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12:00am to 1:00am
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Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

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**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 10:58 AM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I've noticed on the over moderated Jaws list, people will have general windows questions, or about a program, but feel as though they have to include how to do something with Jaws, even though it is not really a Jaws question, just to have the question be considered a Jaws question.
That is the result of over moderation.
-
No, it's not.  It's the result of not thinking about what you're asking about.

On every screen reader group I've participated in there are members who think that a question about some given piece of software, with the phrase "with {insert screen reader name here}," makes it a screen reader related question.  It isn't.

If you want to know the keyboard shortcuts or other information about an MS-Office program, web browser, media player, and the list goes on and on that's an entirely separate issue from how to use any given screen reader on top of it.   It is incumbent on those asking questions to actually think about what it is, really, the question pertains to.  Tacking on, "with {insert screen reader name here}," doesn't magically make it about the screen reader.  The question, "How do I turn on bold formatting on selected text in MS-Word with JAWS?," is not, in any way, shape, or form, about JAWS.  It's about Word and a keyboard shortcut it uses regardless of whether a screen reader is involved or not.
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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I have also noticed this and I believe I have reported it to Vispero. There is a workaround, however.

If you are comfortable modifying the speech and sound scheme go to the Control Types tab and set “read only” to ignore instead of speak. Let us know if you run into problems or if you need more specific steps.

 

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

This is the way it renders the Email, so it can read it as fast as it can without all the garbage at the top of the Email. I like it.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: 09 November 2021 16:23
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated FW: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?

Ken Chernack
 

Hi again.

I found the following email that I believe is an answer to my questions of a previous email I sent a few minutes ago.

Thanks Brian.

 

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: subscribing to a mailing list specifically for using jaws with different programs?

 

This group, and the JFW Users Group are both for precisely that purpose.  This one has a less strict moderation policy.

But note well, both are focused on JAWS, not the programs you're using JAWS to access, and this is perfectly appropriate.

If you're looking for more broad-based information about using Windows 10 with JAWS then consider the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group.

There is no group dedicated to discussion of any program you can name while using a screen reader to access it.  But there are tons of groups, including the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, that are dedicated to specific programs or suites of programs.

The screen reader and the thing it's accessing are two separate things, and how a given program works (whether with point and click or keyboard shortcuts) is entirely separate from the screen reader being used on top of it.

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moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Glenn / Lenny
 

Why do some folks concern themselves with which list is best?
If there is low traffic on a list, why unsubscribe from it?
The list traffic may pick up later.
If it is low traffic, then there is no bother from being a member and one can just go with it.
I've never understood people leaving a low traffic list for that reason.
On the other hand, I do understand people wanting to leave a high traffic list.
So let sleeping dogs lie in my opinion.
And the list will be there if you do need it.
The high traffic lists tend to get into flaming wars, and those are usually the over moderated ones too.
I've noticed on the over moderated Jaws list, people will have general windows questions, or about a program, but feel as though they have to include how to do something with Jaws, even though it is not really a Jaws question, just to have the question be considered a Jaws question.
That is the result of over moderation.
 
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

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Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

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**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Gerald Levy
 


Unfortunatley, the owner/moderator of this list has apparently given up his moderation duties and allowed the list to become a more general discussion forum where almost anything goes and rules are not strictly enforced.  If you want to join the other JAWS list, which is more tightly moderated and kept on topic most of the time, send a blank message to:


jfw-users+subscribe@groups.io


Gerald



On 11/12/2021 10:45 AM, Ken Chernack via groups.io wrote:

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

When:
11/01/2021
12:00am to 1:00am
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

View Event

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


moderated Re: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

Ken Chernack
 

Hi.

Who is James, the signer of the following rules email?

Is he the phantom moderator?

I believe that the narrative of this email has not been updated for some time and is just automatically sent out monthly on the first day.

 

Have you noticed the drop off of activity in this discussion list since last week?

Is the Jaws moderated list the place to use for a better quality discussion?

 

What is the address of that and other pertinent discussion lists?

I know that they have been mentioned in the past, but it now seems necessary to switch to actively moderated lists for better quality answers that are focused on a subject/topic.

 

Thanks.

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of main@jfw.groups.io Calendar
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Now: List Rules - 11/01/2021 #cal-notice

 

List Rules

When:
11/01/2021
12:00am to 1:00am
(UTC-04:00) America/New York

View Event

Description:
The following is the current version of the JFW Mailing List policies. These are sent out monthly, and also available from:

http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies 

 

**List Policies**

1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated.

2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes.

3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject.

4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind.

5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration.

6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently.

As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io

James,
List Admin
 


moderated Re: Remote Desktop

Abraham Sweiss
 

OK, I had to access a remote desktop today and the keys aiuse to use don’t work. Were you ever able to figure out how to minimize the remote desktop screen?


Thanks,abraham 

On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:


I am going from memory, I believe the key combination is
Ctrl plus Alta plus either break or page up.

Thanks,abraham 

On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:



Hi, I thought that when in Remote Desktop you could lock the input Window by using Control+Shift+ the Break key.

That is not obviously the correct key. I cannot find it in the Remote Access help section so I’m now asking nicely if anyone can help me out.


moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Yes, I have just left it alone and tuned it out.  If I press the up arrow key immediately when I open a message, it will cut off the “read only”.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 7:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

I don’t like this approach. What if you get a document or book with the words Read Only in them?

 

You could limit it to Outlook, but what then if you get an Email with it in?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 09 November 2021 16:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi, Pam. The solution that was offered was to put the words read only into the JAWS dictionary, and replace these words with a space character. This can either be done in the default dictionary file, (CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D), or in the dictionary file which is created when Outlook is open, and JAWS key plus D is pressed.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: Can I Turn Off the Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts?

Steve Nutt
 

Yep, there's a check box that says don't show again.

All the best

Steve

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: 10 November 2021 12:07
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Can I Turn Off the Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts?

Hi, Guys.
Is there a way to disable the notice that comes on when new podcasts are released? I know that I can hit the Remind Me Later button, but want to disable the notification altogether.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Steve Nutt
 

I don’t like this approach. What if you get a document or book with the words Read Only in them?

 

You could limit it to Outlook, but what then if you get an Email with it in?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 09 November 2021 16:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi, Pam. The solution that was offered was to put the words read only into the JAWS dictionary, and replace these words with a space character. This can either be done in the default dictionary file, (CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D), or in the dictionary file which is created when Outlook is open, and JAWS key plus D is pressed.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 

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