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moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Curtis Delzer
 

Certainly window-eyes has that, had their "review" mode for vocal-eyes which is the dos version, and twas very good at what it did.

On 11/2/2021 10:54 AM, Loy wrote:
Didn't Window Eyes have that?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Strangely though, none of them but Jaws offered the ability to have a separate curser like Jaws.
At least none I could find, and it still seems to be the case.
Maybe NVDA uses the review cursor, if that isn't another screenreader, but I have never mastered that.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

There were several screenreaders for DOS during the 1980’s and early 1990’s.  Even the Apple 2s were accessible during that time.

Larry

 

 

Larry

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 11:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

 

You have been using JAWS since 1989?  That would be impossible because JAWS was not introduced until 1995.  In fact, I don't think any screen reader existed in 1989, not even Voice Over.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/2/2021 12:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don’t think it would.

 

Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 02 November 2021 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

From: Edward Green

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in the UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over £150 I don’t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well meet your needs.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis" <billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy

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moderated Re: seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

 

Hi,

To add to Brian’s points, I strongly advise people to install Windows 10 November 2021 Update (Version 21H2) as soon as it is offered to you (currently 21H2 is being prepared for release at any moment).

At least to give folks something to think about, there was a thread on another list that discussed pros and cons of Windows 11 upgrade:

winaccess@winaccess.groups.io | windows 11 pros and cons

 

There were issues reported in that thread that turns out to be something to do with Edge browser itself (not Windows), you can ignore Edge notes in that thread.

As for the computer itself, to Keith: ask your friend to install Windows 10 for now – just because Windows 11 is here doesn’t mean not all machines are ready for it, particularly if the processor is flagged as not supported by Microsoft documentation and PC Health Check app. If the processor is not one of the following, then you cannot upgrade to Windows 11 (there is an unofficial way, but you must be willing to “sign” a waiver (in the form of agreeing to terms) and future updates are not guaranteed):

  • Intel: Core I3/I5/I7/I9 8000/9000/10000/11000/12000/10XXGn/11XXGn, some newer Xeon, Celeron, Pentium (apart from a very small handful of processors from 7th generation, the processor must be 8th generation (Coffee Lake) or later)
  • AMD: Ryzen 3/5/7 2000/3000/4000/5000, newer Epyc and Athlon (Zen+ family and later)

You must also be licensed to use JAWS 2022 or later (subscription or SMA); 2021 will work to some extent but 2022 is better optimized for Windows 11.

Good luck.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 10:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:36 PM, Chris Hill wrote:

Two months into a new operating system is just way too soon with windows.

-
Amen to that!!

You can use the PC Health Check app from Microsoft to check to see if your machine is compatible with Windows 11, at least at the moment, as Microsoft still has not said it has finalized all processors that it intends to include.  But if your machine passes the test now, it will not fail it later.  But it could fail it now because your processor is not yet officially supported but the TPM and other requirements are met.  But just because you could update today to Windows 11 doesn't mean you should.

I would encourage anyone except those who love being on "the bleeding edge" to wait a minimum of 6 months, which means next April, before taking the plunge with Windows 11.

For those who do have Windows 11 compatible hardware, and if there are no reports of major issues with Windows 11 next spring, I would not wait until Windows 10 end of life in 2025 to do that upgrade.  During the first year, in particular, of a new Windows version there is a ton of ongoing exchange of information about how to move from an earlier version to it that dies down substantially afterward.  There is value in being a part of a large group of people trying to deal with the same issues, however small, at the same time when it's fresh in everyone's mind.  You see people who waited trying to upgrade to Windows 10 now from Windows 7 or 8/8.1 and much of what people did "way back when" no longer springs immediately to mind, and a lot of what was true and correct for earlier versions of Windows 10 is no longer true or correct for the most recent Windows 10 versions.  The same is almost certain to be true for Windows 11 as well.

There are those among us, and I may be one of them, who must stay on Windows 10 until it is retired if Microsoft does not end up adding my processor to the list of those officially supported by Windows 11, and I'm not about to rush out and buy a new machine just to have Windows 11.  But by the time 2025 rolls around my laptop will be eight years old, and that means it will have lived out a full service life and I'd expect to be replacing it anyway.
 
Right now, in general but particularly with regard to interactions with the various screen readers, Windows 11 information is quite sparse.  I'd start out with Windows 10 initially and only upgrade to Windows 11 later if your hardware supports it.
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moderated Re: seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:36 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Two months into a new operating system is just way too soon with windows.
-
Amen to that!!

You can use the PC Health Check app from Microsoft to check to see if your machine is compatible with Windows 11, at least at the moment, as Microsoft still has not said it has finalized all processors that it intends to include.  But if your machine passes the test now, it will not fail it later.  But it could fail it now because your processor is not yet officially supported but the TPM and other requirements are met.  But just because you could update today to Windows 11 doesn't mean you should.

I would encourage anyone except those who love being on "the bleeding edge" to wait a minimum of 6 months, which means next April, before taking the plunge with Windows 11.

For those who do have Windows 11 compatible hardware, and if there are no reports of major issues with Windows 11 next spring, I would not wait until Windows 10 end of life in 2025 to do that upgrade.  During the first year, in particular, of a new Windows version there is a ton of ongoing exchange of information about how to move from an earlier version to it that dies down substantially afterward.  There is value in being a part of a large group of people trying to deal with the same issues, however small, at the same time when it's fresh in everyone's mind.  You see people who waited trying to upgrade to Windows 10 now from Windows 7 or 8/8.1 and much of what people did "way back when" no longer springs immediately to mind, and a lot of what was true and correct for earlier versions of Windows 10 is no longer true or correct for the most recent Windows 10 versions.  The same is almost certain to be true for Windows 11 as well.

There are those among us, and I may be one of them, who must stay on Windows 10 until it is retired if Microsoft does not end up adding my processor to the list of those officially supported by Windows 11, and I'm not about to rush out and buy a new machine just to have Windows 11.  But by the time 2025 rolls around my laptop will be eight years old, and that means it will have lived out a full service life and I'd expect to be replacing it anyway.
 
Right now, in general but particularly with regard to interactions with the various screen readers, Windows 11 information is quite sparse.  I'd start out with Windows 10 initially and only upgrade to Windows 11 later if your hardware supports it.
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moderated Re: seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

Chris Hill
 

Well, unless the computer is fairly new, like less than three or four years old, you aren't going to have any real choice, it will be windows 10 for you.  Even if it is fairly new, unless it has tpm 2.0 capability, it will still have to be windows 10 to get security updates.  I'm going to wait on 11 until I have someone who needs help with it or there is some significant reason to change.  Two months into a new operating system is just way too soon with windows.

CH

On 11/10/2021 10:55, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io wrote:
hi Group,
I have been without a PC for several years, but soon will receive a hand me down PC. The forthcoming computer currently runs windows 10, which I previously used before going without a PC. The current owner is willing to install windows 11 on this computer before handing it over.
Seeking advice on whether I should become familiar again with jaws on a windows 10 device or whether it’s OK to take on a Windows 11 computer. I will appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance, Keith



moderated Re: seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

Pat Byrne
 

Keith,
Why not go with WIN10 for a while and get used to it again. WIN11 isn't, in my opinion any sort of breakthrough and I plan to use "10" as long as it is supported.
Just my opinion.
Pat ByrneAt 10:55 AM 11/10/2021, you wrote:

hi Group,
I have been without a PC for several years, but soon will receive a hand me down PC. The forthcoming computer currently runs windows 10, which I previously used before going without a PC. The current owner is willing to install windows 11 on this computer before handing it over.
Seeking advice on whether I should become familiar again with jaws on a windows 10 device or whether it’s OK to take on a Windows 11 computer. I will appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance, Keith


moderated seeking advice on windows 10 versus windows 11

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

hi Group,
I have been without a PC for several years, but soon will receive a hand me down PC. The forthcoming computer currently runs windows 10, which I previously used before going without a PC. The current owner is willing to install windows 11 on this computer before handing it over.
Seeking advice on whether I should become familiar again with jaws on a windows 10 device or whether it’s OK to take on a Windows 11 computer. I will appreciate any advice.
Thanks in advance, Keith


moderated Re: Can I Turn Off the Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts?

Bill White
 

Hi, Dani. To turn off Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts,

1. Press JAWS key plus six on the numbers row to enter JAWS Settings.
2. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D to bring up the default configuration.
3. In the search box, type FS
4. When the search results appear, there should be one result,

Notify about new FSCasts
1 of 1 Search Results
5. Arrow down to this result, and uncheck it.
6. TAB to Apply, and press ENTER.
7. TAB to OK, and press ENTER.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 4:07 AM
To: main
Subject: Can I Turn Off the Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts?

Hi, Guys.
Is there a way to disable the notice that comes on when new podcasts
are released? I know that I can hit the Remind Me Later button, but
want to disable the notification altogether.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Can I Turn Off the Notice Re New Monthly Podcasts?

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Guys.
Is there a way to disable the notice that comes on when new podcasts
are released? I know that I can hit the Remind Me Later button, but
want to disable the notification altogether.

Thanks,
Dani


moderated Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Jerry Berrier
 

I did that, and it did not help.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

 

I heard on another list that one needs to re-install Adobe Reader after upgrading to Windows 11. 


moderated Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

meow meow
 

how did u do that?
 

Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Hi all,

 

I downgraded successfully yesterday back to Windows 10 with JAWS. I started by going to Windows update, and then followed prompts until I found the one to Go Back.

I was having three problems with Windows 11, regardless of which screen reader I used.

  1. I could not navigate the task bar with first letter or number navigation.
  2. No PDF files were readable with any screen reader. The text was there, because I could copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into a Word doc, but I could not read it with Adobe.
  3. I could not read the options in the user access control when I went to do something that required me to select yes or no.  Yes, I know about alt-y and that did work.

 

Oh, there was a fourth thing.  I tried the voice typing mode, and it was very impressive, but then it stopped working.  I eventually got Microsoft support on the phone, and they discovered a pop-up that I had no awareness of.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cursofr stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

 

Hello, I'm sending this email just to report a problem that I'm experiencing on my Windows 11 computer. A week ago, I installed Windows 11 on my computer and the system is good. The only problem that I'm having is everytime time I boot up my computer and start the login process and begin to typing out the password, sometimes the cursor will be stuck in one placein the password box  and will not move. I literally have to press Tab to get out of it and Shift+Tab to go back again. This is a very annoying problem and I wonder have any of you early adopters experienced this problem recently? 

If you have, please let me know. 

Thanks 

best regards 


moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Yes, that was my thought too.  Oh well, as I said, it’s certainly not a big deal so I will just leave it as is. 

 

The latest JAWS update is certainly performing faster with Outlook, so that is a good thing.

 

Thanks for the input, Adrian and Bill.

 

Pam

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

I know of no other solution, but this one has its risks. Imagine you get an email in which the following sentence appears:

 

You need read only the latest news to understand her concern.

 

After this dictionary change, JAWS would read the sentence this way:

 

You need the latest news to understand her concern.

 

I suppose not much meaning lost in this case, but it gives you an idea.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi, Pam. The solution that was offered was to put the words read only into the JAWS dictionary, and replace these words with a space character. This can either be done in the default dictionary file, (CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D), or in the dictionary file which is created when Outlook is open, and JAWS key plus D is pressed.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Adrian Spratt
 

I know of no other solution, but this one has its risks. Imagine you get an email in which the following sentence appears:

 

You need read only the latest news to understand her concern.

 

After this dictionary change, JAWS would read the sentence this way:

 

You need the latest news to understand her concern.

 

I suppose not much meaning lost in this case, but it gives you an idea.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi, Pam. The solution that was offered was to put the words read only into the JAWS dictionary, and replace these words with a space character. This can either be done in the default dictionary file, (CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D), or in the dictionary file which is created when Outlook is open, and JAWS key plus D is pressed.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Bill White
 

Hi, Pam. The solution that was offered was to put the words read only into the JAWS dictionary, and replace these words with a space character. This can either be done in the default dictionary file, (CONTROL plus SHIFT plus D), or in the dictionary file which is created when Outlook is open, and JAWS key plus D is pressed.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated JAWS 2022 Saying Read Only when Open an Outlook Email

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi,

 

Since upgrading to the latest JAWS, when I open an email in Outlook, JAWS now says “read only” before reading the email.  Does anyone know if there is a way to stop this?  It is a small thing, but gets annoying when going through a lot of email.

 

I think I remember seeing something about this on this list before, but can’t find it now.

 

Pam

 

 

 


moderated Re: Merging settings

Bill White
 

Hi, Steve. I am aware of this as well. I am also aware that, sometimes, the migration process ends up corrupting all the JAWS Settings. That's why I called Vispero and lobbied for a way to force JAWS NOT to migrate settings while installing a new version. Thankfully, Vispero recognized my request, and put in a check box, whereby you can tell JAWS 2022 not to migrate settings from 2021.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi Bill,

 

I notice though that not all settings are migrated faithfully.

 

One in particular is verbosity. I have it at intermediate, but although my settings were imported, it put me back to beginner level.

 

So this migration thing is not perfect yet.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 08 November 2021 23:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

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moderated Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I heard on another list that one needs to re-install Adobe Reader after upgrading to Windows 11. 


moderated Re: Merging settings

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Bill,

 

I notice though that not all settings are migrated faithfully.

 

One in particular is verbosity. I have it at intermediate, but although my settings were imported, it put me back to beginner level.

 

So this migration thing is not perfect yet.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 08 November 2021 23:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

Paula Waby

ACATS Trainer

Blind Low Vision NZ

Kāpō, Matarehu Aotearoa

 

P: 03 466 4244 ext: 4244 | E: pwaby@...

 

Corner of Hillside Road & Law Street

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moderated Re: Merging settings

Adrian Spratt
 

Bill,

 

I had the same experience, even though I was upgrading from 2021 to 2022. However, once directed to the import/export utility, arrowing up once to “Migrate” solved the problem easily and quickly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 6:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

Paula Waby

ACATS Trainer

Blind Low Vision NZ

Kāpō, Matarehu Aotearoa

 

P: 03 466 4244 ext: 4244 | E: pwaby@...

 

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Dunedin 9012

 

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moderated Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Jerry Berrier
 

Hi all,

 

I downgraded successfully yesterday back to Windows 10 with JAWS. I started by going to Windows update, and then followed prompts until I found the one to Go Back.

I was having three problems with Windows 11, regardless of which screen reader I used.

  1. I could not navigate the task bar with first letter or number navigation.
  2. No PDF files were readable with any screen reader. The text was there, because I could copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into a Word doc, but I could not read it with Adobe.
  3. I could not read the options in the user access control when I went to do something that required me to select yes or no.  Yes, I know about alt-y and that did work.

 

Oh, there was a fourth thing.  I tried the voice typing mode, and it was very impressive, but then it stopped working.  I eventually got Microsoft support on the phone, and they discovered a pop-up that I had no awareness of.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cursofr stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

 

Hello, I'm sending this email just to report a problem that I'm experiencing on my Windows 11 computer. A week ago, I installed Windows 11 on my computer and the system is good. The only problem that I'm having is everytime time I boot up my computer and start the login process and begin to typing out the password, sometimes the cursor will be stuck in one placein the password box  and will not move. I literally have to press Tab to get out of it and Shift+Tab to go back again. This is a very annoying problem and I wonder have any of you early adopters experienced this problem recently? 

If you have, please let me know. 

Thanks 

best regards 


moderated Re: Merging settings

Paula Waby
 

Thanks so much Mike. We’ll try this. She is a relatively new Jaws user so maybe inadvertently ticked or unticked something when she tried the update herself.

Cheers

Paula.

 

Paula Waby

ACATS

Trainer

Blind Low Vision NZ

Kāpō, Matarehu Aotearoa

 

P: 03 466 4244 ext: 4244 | E: pwaby@...

 

Corner of Hillside Road & Law Street

Dunedin 9012

 

Read our new resource ‘Clearing Our Way’, dedicated to the blind, deaf blind and low vision community

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi Paula,

 

Try the following:

Insert + J to open Jaws context menu and press the letter, U, to open Utilities.
 
Now press the letter, I , to open the,  , Import / Export settings submenu,  or navigate to, Import / Export settings submenu,  and press enter.
Note:  You have 4 options here Import..., Export..., Restore... and Migrate...
 
If you want to Migrate settings from an earlier version press enter on Migrate and a dialogue will open saying the following,
Migrate User Settings dialog‑
An older version of JAWS was detected with custom user settings. Do you want to migrate settings to the current JAWS?
Migrate Settings from Combo box‑ JAWS 2021
 
Highlight the version of Jaws you want to migrate the settings from and tab to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.
 
 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 3:13 PM

Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

Cheers

Paula.

Paula Waby

ACATS Trainer

Blind Low Vision NZ

Kāpō, Matarehu Aotearoa

P: 03 466 4244 ext: 4244 | E: pwaby@...

Corner of Hillside Road & Law Street

Dunedin 9012

Read our new resource ‘Clearing Our Way’, dedicated to the blind, deaf blind and low vision community

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