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moderated Re: Merging settings

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Bill,

 

I notice though that not all settings are migrated faithfully.

 

One in particular is verbosity. I have it at intermediate, but although my settings were imported, it put me back to beginner level.

 

So this migration thing is not perfect yet.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 08 November 2021 23:22
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

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moderated Re: Merging settings

Adrian Spratt
 

Bill,

 

I had the same experience, even though I was upgrading from 2021 to 2022. However, once directed to the import/export utility, arrowing up once to “Migrate” solved the problem easily and quickly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 6:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

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moderated Re: Cursor stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Jerry Berrier
 

Hi all,

 

I downgraded successfully yesterday back to Windows 10 with JAWS. I started by going to Windows update, and then followed prompts until I found the one to Go Back.

I was having three problems with Windows 11, regardless of which screen reader I used.

  1. I could not navigate the task bar with first letter or number navigation.
  2. No PDF files were readable with any screen reader. The text was there, because I could copy it to the clipboard and then paste it into a Word doc, but I could not read it with Adobe.
  3. I could not read the options in the user access control when I went to do something that required me to select yes or no.  Yes, I know about alt-y and that did work.

 

Oh, there was a fourth thing.  I tried the voice typing mode, and it was very impressive, but then it stopped working.  I eventually got Microsoft support on the phone, and they discovered a pop-up that I had no awareness of.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 1:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Cursofr stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

 

Hello, I'm sending this email just to report a problem that I'm experiencing on my Windows 11 computer. A week ago, I installed Windows 11 on my computer and the system is good. The only problem that I'm having is everytime time I boot up my computer and start the login process and begin to typing out the password, sometimes the cursor will be stuck in one placein the password box  and will not move. I literally have to press Tab to get out of it and Shift+Tab to go back again. This is a very annoying problem and I wonder have any of you early adopters experienced this problem recently? 

If you have, please let me know. 

Thanks 

best regards 


moderated Re: Merging settings

Paula Waby
 

Thanks so much Mike. We’ll try this. She is a relatively new Jaws user so maybe inadvertently ticked or unticked something when she tried the update herself.

Cheers

Paula.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 12:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Merging settings

 

Hi Paula,

 

Try the following:

Insert + J to open Jaws context menu and press the letter, U, to open Utilities.
 
Now press the letter, I , to open the,  , Import / Export settings submenu,  or navigate to, Import / Export settings submenu,  and press enter.
Note:  You have 4 options here Import..., Export..., Restore... and Migrate...
 
If you want to Migrate settings from an earlier version press enter on Migrate and a dialogue will open saying the following,
Migrate User Settings dialog‑
An older version of JAWS was detected with custom user settings. Do you want to migrate settings to the current JAWS?
Migrate Settings from Combo box‑ JAWS 2021
 
Highlight the version of Jaws you want to migrate the settings from and tab to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.
 
 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 3:13 PM

Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

Cheers

Paula.

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moderated Re: Merging settings

Mike B.
 

Hi Paula,
 
Try the following:
Insert + J to open Jaws context menu and press the letter, U, to open Utilities.
 
Now press the letter, I , to open the,  , Import / Export settings submenu,  or navigate to, Import / Export settings submenu,  and press enter.
Note:  You have 4 options here Import..., Export..., Restore... and Migrate...
 
If you want to Migrate settings from an earlier version press enter on Migrate and a dialogue will open saying the following,
Migrate User Settings dialog
An older version of JAWS was detected with custom user settings. Do you want to migrate settings to the current JAWS?
Migrate Settings from Combo box JAWS 2021
 
Highlight the version of Jaws you want to migrate the settings from and tab to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 3:13 PM
Subject: Merging settings

Hi all

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

Cheers

Paula.

Paula Waby

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moderated Re: Merging settings

Bill White
 

Hi, Paula. Once installed, there's not an easy way to merge settings. You would need to use the Export Settings option from JAWS 2021, then use the Import Settings option to import them into JAWS 2022. These are located within the Utilities menu in JAWS. It would almost be easier to uninstall JAWS 2022, and reinstall it, using the Migrate Settings option. What I don't understand is the fact that her settings weren't migrated. This would only happen if she was trying to upgrade from an earlier JAWS version than 2021. The default behavior is to migrate settings from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022, and she would have had to uncheck a check box in the JAWS 2022 installer to bypass this option.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula Waby
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 3:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Merging settings

 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

Paula Waby

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Blind Low Vision NZ

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moderated Merging settings

Paula Waby
 

Hi all

 

I was working with someone yesterday who did her upgrade to Jaws 2022 but did not realise there was the option to merge settings. I have looked around as I was sure there must be an easy way to do it after the effect but I can’t find how to do it. Can someone advise me please as it would be faster than trying to go through and find all her settings again?

 

Cheers

Paula.

 

Paula Waby

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Blind Low Vision NZ

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moderated Re: A Tip On JAWS and Outlook

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Rick

 

Press Shift + F6 from your list of emails until you find the Navigation Bar. Arrow to the calendar and use your Applications key or Shift + F10 to display the context menu. You will find the Dock to Peek option.

 

You will now have a “peek” of your calendar available when in the Mail tab of Outlook that you can navigate to using F6. It would be interesting to know if you get a different result in this peek view. I can see how this feature would be very helpful for someone sighted as a quick reference, but navigating to the Calendar with Control + 2 is probably more efficient for a JAWS user if it doesn’t provide any benefit.

 

Does Narrator pick up all of your appointments when navigating the calendar?

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Sunday, 7 November 2021 3:11 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: A Tip On JAWS and Outlook

 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just upgraded my computer to Office 365 which has a more modern version of Outlook.  I am handling e-mails fairly well, but on the calendar not all of my events, including my meetings, are showing.  I read that there is a way to solve this problem by locating the calendar on the navigation bar and then clicking “Dock the peek,” but I do not know how to do this using JAWS.  Do any of you out there know, and can one of you please give me some advice?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Touch Cursor question

Glenn / Lenny
 

I have experienced this on several windows machines, including the one with 8GB of RAM.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2021 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Touch Cursor question

This is a desktop application.  I have enough vision to see that the dialog box opens pretty quickly, just as if I were to use the mouse pointer to click it, but JAWS is silent for some period of time and I don’t know what it is waiting for.  Insert Escape to redraw the screen doesn’t do anything. JAWS does not respond to trying to change the cursor type, so I am assuming it is finishing some process related to that action of hitting enter while in Touch Cursor mode.   Mainly just curious if others using the Touch Cursor see this kind of lag on whatever program you use it for.  I just tried using Touch Cursor to minimize this Outlook message and the responsiveness is very quick, so I’m wondering if it’s some quirk with Lotus Notes.  Maybe I’ll never know. �� The benefit of Touch cursor in this app outweighs my impatient wait for speech to resume.

 

 

Robin

 

 

 

              

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Touch Cursor question

 

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Hi Robin,

 

This is only an idea since I've never worked with Lotus Notes.  Is it possible that the delay you're experiencing is the time it's taking for the webpage or whatever to acknowledge the activation of the button you're talking about?  I don't know if this applies, but maybe if the screen was set to refresh automatically it might help.  Or, invoke the keystroke, Insert + Escape, to repaint the screen after activating the button.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 10:58 AM

Subject: Touch Cursor question

 

Hi,

I’ve begun using the Touch cursor to access a toolbar in a Lotus Notes database.  This has been fantastic, as I couldn’t figure out how to access the bar otherwise.  My process is to turn on Touch Cursor, then to page up to Forms mode, then arrow down to the button I need and hit return to activate.   Once clicked a little dialog pops up confirming that I approved the document and I need to click OK    My question is, once I hit Enter on the button I have found with the Touch cursor, there is quite a long delay before I hear a little click that is somehow related to the Touch cursor and then a few more seconds before I can change back to PC cursor to click that “OKâ€� button in the dialog box.  My question is, is this long delay normal when selecting something with the Touch Cursor?  The dialog is there almost immediately, but JAWS goes silent for a good 5 to 10 seconds, then I hear that little click, then I wait a few more seconds to regain speech and activate the PC cursor. 

 

Using latest version of JAWS 2021, Windows 10 and  not sure which version of Notes. 

 

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moderated Re: Touch Cursor question

Van Lant, Robin
 

This is a desktop application.  I have enough vision to see that the dialog box opens pretty quickly, just as if I were to use the mouse pointer to click it, but JAWS is silent for some period of time and I don’t know what it is waiting for.  Insert Escape to redraw the screen doesn’t do anything. JAWS does not respond to trying to change the cursor type, so I am assuming it is finishing some process related to that action of hitting enter while in Touch Cursor mode.   Mainly just curious if others using the Touch Cursor see this kind of lag on whatever program you use it for.  I just tried using Touch Cursor to minimize this Outlook message and the responsiveness is very quick, so I’m wondering if it’s some quirk with Lotus Notes.  Maybe I’ll never know. 😊 The benefit of Touch cursor in this app outweighs my impatient wait for speech to resume.

 

 

Robin

 

 

 

              

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Touch Cursor question

 

WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before clicking links or opening attachments.

 

Hi Robin,

 

This is only an idea since I've never worked with Lotus Notes.  Is it possible that the delay you're experiencing is the time it's taking for the webpage or whatever to acknowledge the activation of the button you're talking about?  I don't know if this applies, but maybe if the screen was set to refresh automatically it might help.  Or, invoke the keystroke, Insert + Escape, to repaint the screen after activating the button.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 10:58 AM

Subject: Touch Cursor question

 

Hi,

I’ve begun using the Touch cursor to access a toolbar in a Lotus Notes database.  This has been fantastic, as I couldn’t figure out how to access the bar otherwise.  My process is to turn on Touch Cursor, then to page up to Forms mode, then arrow down to the button I need and hit return to activate.   Once clicked a little dialog pops up confirming that I approved the document and I need to click OK    My question is, once I hit Enter on the button I have found with the Touch cursor, there is quite a long delay before I hear a little click that is somehow related to the Touch cursor and then a few more seconds before I can change back to PC cursor to click that “OK” button in the dialog box.  My question is, is this long delay normal when selecting something with the Touch Cursor?  The dialog is there almost immediately, but JAWS goes silent for a good 5 to 10 seconds, then I hear that little click, then I wait a few more seconds to regain speech and activate the PC cursor. 

 

Using latest version of JAWS 2021, Windows 10 and  not sure which version of Notes. 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager



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moderated Re: downgrading to Windows 10

Chris
 

Don't be ridiculous, you're making the rules up as you go along now

On 7 Nov 2021, at 05:07, Sharon S <koala@...> wrote:



Hi, actually she was on topic because she asked if it was possible to do it with Jaws.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2021 5:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

Actualy this is a jaws group not a windows group , so it is in the wrong group for her particular question, and therefore should not have been posted in this group

 

 

 

 

 

From: James English
Sent: 05 November 2021 18:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Is there really any need for the hostility here? She is simply trying

to get the answer as quickly as possible, and asking various groups,

whether there is overlap or not, is a good way of doing that. There

will be users here who are not on the other lists that were messaged,

I know this as this is the only message I've received on the subject.

I get it if the message was posted to lists for where it isn't

relevant (vi-phone, Manchester united supporters trust, a fantasy

basketball league) but as far as I am aware it wasn't.

Your delete key works to delete mail in most mail clients, and

deleting using most webmail services is hassle free, far easier than

ranting because someone has sent you 2 emails instead of one.

 

- James Kizagurien-English

 

On 11/5/21, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

> If it is on different lists, she has done not one thing wrong and I support

> her asking as many as needed to get the answers sought. Remember, your

> delete key is, as you all often state, your option. Is a cross is done and

> yuou seem to be on more than one list, again, hit your delete key. She has

> done nothing wrong and just because you get a second or a third identical

> message from all you hold membership within, you are the individual with

> many memberships, she has not done one thing in error within any one

> individual group list. Get over it and move on...

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 2:20 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

> And let's all keep in mind that not everybody is an old hand at using

> mailing lists. I happen to know that Madison is quite young so instead of

> criticizing let's tell her that cross-posting or posting the same question

> on multiple lists at the same time without giving one list a chance to

> provide answers is considered bad etiquette because many of use are on the

> Jaws and WinAccess lists she is in any case asking the same people and she

> may not realize this. We are all here to either educate or be educated and

> it's always a good idea to give somebody the benefit of the doubt at least

> until they have really proven they are not able or willing to get it. I

> think, for example, if somebody had replied explaining how this is

> considered to be bad list etiquette sending it privately is even a better

> approach.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel

> Sent: November 5, 2021 9:47 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages

> were sent separately.

> -

> Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And

> the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been

> considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical

> support forums or emailing lists.

> And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure

> you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a

> reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.

> --

> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

> It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between

> thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different,

> and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the

> seemingly unconnected.

>     ~ William Plomer

>

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Cursofr stuck at the Windows 11 log in screen

Michael Munn
 

Hello, I'm sending this email just to report a problem that I'm experiencing on my Windows 11 computer. A week ago, I installed Windows 11 on my computer and the system is good. The only problem that I'm having is everytime time I boot up my computer and start the login process and begin to typing out the password, sometimes the cursor will be stuck in one placein the password box  and will not move. I literally have to press Tab to get out of it and Shift+Tab to go back again. This is a very annoying problem and I wonder have any of you early adopters experienced this problem recently? 
If you have, please let me know. 
Thanks 
best regards 
Michael H. Munn 




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moderated Re: downgrading to Windows 10

Sharon S
 

Hi, actually she was on topic because she asked if it was possible to do it with Jaws.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 6 November 2021 5:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

Actualy this is a jaws group not a windows group , so it is in the wrong group for her particular question, and therefore should not have been posted in this group

 

 

 

 

 

From: James English
Sent: 05 November 2021 18:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Is there really any need for the hostility here? She is simply trying

to get the answer as quickly as possible, and asking various groups,

whether there is overlap or not, is a good way of doing that. There

will be users here who are not on the other lists that were messaged,

I know this as this is the only message I've received on the subject.

I get it if the message was posted to lists for where it isn't

relevant (vi-phone, Manchester united supporters trust, a fantasy

basketball league) but as far as I am aware it wasn't.

Your delete key works to delete mail in most mail clients, and

deleting using most webmail services is hassle free, far easier than

ranting because someone has sent you 2 emails instead of one.

 

- James Kizagurien-English

 

On 11/5/21, Rick Mladek <hmladek@...> wrote:

> If it is on different lists, she has done not one thing wrong and I support

> her asking as many as needed to get the answers sought. Remember, your

> delete key is, as you all often state, your option. Is a cross is done and

> yuou seem to be on more than one list, again, hit your delete key. She has

> done nothing wrong and just because you get a second or a third identical

> message from all you hold membership within, you are the individual with

> many memberships, she has not done one thing in error within any one

> individual group list. Get over it and move on...

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 2:20 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

> And let's all keep in mind that not everybody is an old hand at using

> mailing lists. I happen to know that Madison is quite young so instead of

> criticizing let's tell her that cross-posting or posting the same question

> on multiple lists at the same time without giving one list a chance to

> provide answers is considered bad etiquette because many of use are on the

> Jaws and WinAccess lists she is in any case asking the same people and she

> may not realize this. We are all here to either educate or be educated and

> it's always a good idea to give somebody the benefit of the doubt at least

> until they have really proven they are not able or willing to get it. I

> think, for example, if somebody had replied explaining how this is

> considered to be bad list etiquette sending it privately is even a better

> approach.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel

> Sent: November 5, 2021 9:47 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: downgrading to Windows 10

> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> But although annoying, I don't consider it cross-posting if the messages

> were sent separately.

> -

> Whether cross-posting, or multi-posting, the end result is the same.  And

> the article I referenced gives a better explanation of why this has been

> considered "poor form" for as long as I've been participating on technical

> support forums or emailing lists.

> And the warning the gentleman who wrote that article gives is, I can assure

> you, quite true.  You can and will eventually be ignored once you have a

> reputation for multi-posting/cross-posting.

> --

> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

> It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between

> thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different,

> and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the

> seemingly unconnected.

>     ~ William Plomer

>

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Touch Cursor question

Mike B.
 

Hi Robin,
 
This is only an idea since I've never worked with Lotus Notes.  Is it possible that the delay you're experiencing is the time it's taking for the webpage or whatever to acknowledge the activation of the button you're talking about?  I don't know if this applies, but maybe if the screen was set to refresh automatically it might help.  Or, invoke the keystroke, Insert + Escape, to repaint the screen after activating the button.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 10:58 AM
Subject: Touch Cursor question

Hi,

I’ve begun using the Touch cursor to access a toolbar in a Lotus Notes database.  This has been fantastic, as I couldn’t figure out how to access the bar otherwise.  My process is to turn on Touch Cursor, then to page up to Forms mode, then arrow down to the button I need and hit return to activate.   Once clicked a little dialog pops up confirming that I approved the document and I need to click OK    My question is, once I hit Enter on the button I have found with the Touch cursor, there is quite a long delay before I hear a little click that is somehow related to the Touch cursor and then a few more seconds before I can change back to PC cursor to click that “OK” button in the dialog box.  My question is, is this long delay normal when selecting something with the Touch Cursor?  The dialog is there almost immediately, but JAWS goes silent for a good 5 to 10 seconds, then I hear that little click, then I wait a few more seconds to regain speech and activate the PC cursor. 

 

Using latest version of JAWS 2021, Windows 10 and  not sure which version of Notes. 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager



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moderated Re: jaws updates

Curt Taubert
 

It's win 10, and no it wasn't checked but I did that right away after getting Bills message.

On 11/2/2021 11:23 AM, Milton Ota wrote:
Hello,

Before one can answer your question I need a little more information. What version of the operating system is the computer running? Is it Windows 7 or 10?

In the Options Menu under Basic Settings, is the Check for Updates checked?

Please answer these questions and I could possibly help you a little further.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 11:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws updates

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice. Back when jfw 20
21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the next four or five updates. I haven't got any update so far. But my friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the updates for 20 21.











moderated Re: jaws updates

Curt Taubert
 

Thanks, I'll check.

On 11/2/2021 11:13 AM, Bill White wrote:
Hi, Curt. Under JAWS key plus J>Options>Basics, is your JAWS set to remind you of updates? This check box should be about five presses of the TAB key in Basics.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 9:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws updates

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice. Back when jfw 20
21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the
next four or five updates. I haven't got any update so far. But my
friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the
updates for 20 21.











moderated A Tip On JAWS and Outlook

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just upgraded my computer to Office 365 which has a more modern version of Outlook.  I am handling e-mails fairly well, but on the calendar not all of my events, including my meetings, are showing.  I read that there is a way to solve this problem by locating the calendar on the navigation bar and then clicking “Dock the peek,” but I do not know how to do this using JAWS.  Do any of you out there know, and can one of you please give me some advice?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

 

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 12:52 AM, Albert Cutolo wrote:
Logitech wireless  keyboard
-
Model number?
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

Dave Durber
 

Ceigard:
 
The JAWS commands you listed, do not increase/decrease the JAWS or system volume, they take you to 2 windows, where you can use the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW, to raise and lower the JAWS or system volume. Once you have set either volume to the level you want, you press the ESC key, to close either window.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

She can use the Jaws commands:

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by V and then J - this will raise Jaws volume

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by V and then S - this will raise system volume

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: November 5, 2021 9:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

My girlfriend has a Logitech wireless  keyboard  that she uses with her HP. Laptop  computer. However, this particular keyboard, doesn’t have a windows FNE key on it where in order for her too raise the volume, she would have too press both  the FNE    key and the F7 key too increase the volume level.  My question is, is there another key that she can use too substitute for this purpose?  She’s using Jaws 2021, and the latest windows 10.

 

 

Any and all help and suggestions and advice will be much appreciated, 

 

Al   


moderated Re: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

Chris
 

You can configure the touchpad gestures to adjust volume

 

Look under settings > devices > touchpad > advanced gesture configuration

 

 

From: Albert Cutolo
Sent: 06 November 2021 04:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there a substitute key, for the windows FNE key?

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

My girlfriend has a Logitech wireless  keyboard  that she uses with her HP. Laptop  computer. However, this particular keyboard, doesn’t have a windows FNE key on it where in order for her too raise the volume, she would have too press both  the FNE    key and the F7 key too increase the volume level.  My question is, is there another key that she can use too substitute for this purpose?  She’s using Jaws 2021, and the latest windows 10.

 

 

Any and all help and suggestions and advice will be much appreciated, 

 

Al   

 

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