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moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Maria Campbell
 

I feel the same way about NVDA.  I have it as a backup, but the navigation of objects and all that stuff keeps me from truly getting enthused about it.  I'm too old to change from my good old reliable and expensive JAWS.



Maria Campbell
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On 11/2/2021 12:42 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

That is the way I am with NVDA.
It seems to have nothing like the Jaws cursor, and quite often I cannot read a box or window with it, possibly because I have never taken the time to study it and how to use it.
I heard a podcast of someone showing it once, and the discussion of child objects and parent objects and the like totally disinterested me.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don’t think it would.

 

Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 02 November 2021 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

From: Edward Green

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in the UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over £150 I don’t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well meet your needs.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis" <billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Glenn / Lenny
 

That is the way I am with NVDA.
It seems to have nothing like the Jaws cursor, and quite often I cannot read a box or window with it, possibly because I have never taken the time to study it and how to use it.
I heard a podcast of someone showing it once, and the discussion of child objects and parent objects and the like totally disinterested me.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don’t think it would.

 

Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 02 November 2021 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

From: Edward Green

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in the UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over £150 I don’t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well meet your needs.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis" <billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Steve Nutt
 

Wow, I’m older than you, at 61, and I can use pretty much any screen reader. 😊

 

NVDA is certainly getting better than JAWS on the web for the most part I have to say, but the experience in outlook is not so nice.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 02 November 2021 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don’t think it would.

 

Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 02 November 2021 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

From: Edward Green

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in the UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over £150 I don’t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well meet your needs.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis" <billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Tom Behler
 

Glenn:

This is a laptop, so there's no HTMI plug involved.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

The HDMI plug could be the problem.
Try booting without the HDMI cable plugged in, unless this is a laptop in
discussion here.
I know that with the Raspberry PIs, if someone does first boot with an HDMI
cable plugged in, they have a difficult time to get the audio to come from
any other source, as the HDMI cable is detected as the desired audio output.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound


Not so, I have several HP EliteDesk Mini PC's and they have internal
speakers like a laptop, but they are not very good. On one of them the
default soundcard for Windows as well as Jaws is the connected HDMI
monitor which also has speakers, but no matter what I have tried, the
Windows startup sound plays very quietly on the internal speakers of
the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard:

The windows startup sound is checked, but I still don't get the sound
when I boot up my computer.

I'm told that I might have to enable "fast startup" in order to make
this happen.

Can you confirm this?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

The startup sound is a simple checkbox.
Open Control Panel
Go to Sound and press enter
Pres Control + Tab twice to go from the Playback tab to the Recording
tab and finally the Sounds tab, you can also press Shift + Tab until
you hear "Playback tab" and then arrow right twice to Sounds Tab until
you hear "Play Windows Startup Sound" and make sure the checkbox is
checked, then tab to OK and activate it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up
sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound
scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast
Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up
sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up
sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to
Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I
did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed
new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change
system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field.
Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually
delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information
about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the
information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound".
JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE
BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE
BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility
and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the
computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play
Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who
needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to
log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader
or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen,
this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start
Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you ,
that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password
or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when
you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If
you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has
not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to
press
CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.












































moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Tom Behler
 

Ultimately, I'm thinking that might be my best solution.

Thanks, everyone, for your patience.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Tom, why don't you give the Microsoft Disability Desk a call and ask if they can help.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Bill:

Yes, I do have a secondary sound card, but, at least as far as I can tell, re-arranging the sound card configurations has not allowed the startup sound to come back.

Will continue to check this possibility out, though.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. I have a question. Do you have a secondary sound card installed in your Dell? If so, the system sounds may be going to the default sound card, and JAWS and all other sounds to the secondary sound card. This could be why you aren't hearing your startup sound.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don’t think it would.

 

Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: 02 November 2021 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

From: Edward Green

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in the UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over £150 I don’t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well meet your needs.

Cheers,

Ed

On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis" <billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Sieghard.

I appreciate the confirmation about fast startup likely not being the problem.

Once again, I do not get the startup sound on any of the sound cards or speaker systems I use, including the laptop's internal speakers.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Not so, I have several HP EliteDesk Mini PC's and they have internal speakers like a laptop, but they are not very good. On one of them the default soundcard for Windows as well as Jaws is the connected HDMI monitor which also has speakers, but no matter what I have tried, the Windows startup sound plays very quietly on the internal speakers of the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard:

The windows startup sound is checked, but I still don't get the sound when I boot up my computer.

I'm told that I might have to enable "fast startup" in order to make this happen.

Can you confirm this?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

The startup sound is a simple checkbox.
Open Control Panel
Go to Sound and press enter
Pres Control + Tab twice to go from the Playback tab to the Recording tab and finally the Sounds tab, you can also press Shift + Tab until you hear "Playback tab" and then arrow right twice to Sounds Tab until you hear "Play Windows Startup Sound" and make sure the checkbox is checked, then tab to OK and activate it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Glenn / Lenny
 

The HDMI plug could be the problem.
Try booting without the HDMI cable plugged in, unless this is a laptop in discussion here.
I know that with the Raspberry PIs, if someone does first boot with an HDMI cable plugged in, they have a difficult time to get the audio to come from any other source, as the HDMI cable is detected as the desired audio output.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound


Not so, I have several HP EliteDesk Mini PC's and they have internal speakers like a laptop, but they are not very good. On one of them the default soundcard for Windows as well as Jaws is the connected HDMI monitor which also has speakers, but no matter what I have tried, the Windows startup sound plays very quietly on the internal speakers of the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard:

The windows startup sound is checked, but I still don't get the sound when I boot up my computer.

I'm told that I might have to enable "fast startup" in order to make this happen.

Can you confirm this?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

The startup sound is a simple checkbox.
Open Control Panel
Go to Sound and press enter
Pres Control + Tab twice to go from the Playback tab to the Recording tab and finally the Sounds tab, you can also press Shift + Tab until you hear "Playback tab" and then arrow right twice to Sounds Tab until you hear "Play Windows Startup Sound" and make sure the checkbox is checked, then tab to OK and activate it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.











































moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Mario
 

if you're talking about Window Eyes, the makers have gone out of business, and most likely won't work properly in Windows these days. the only alternative is NVDA which is free and Narrator which is built in to Windows 10.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Billy Inglis [mailto:billyinglis49@...]
Subject: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 12:15 PM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
hi Pat, thanks for reply. I have been informed not to contact Freedom
Scientific as they are very expensive. Windoweys would be the screen
reader for me, but no longer available in the UK, Billy

-----Original Message----- From: Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Billy,
Since you are in the U K I am not sure what your options
are.  Contact Freedom Scientific - better than my guessing
Pat Byrne.At 05:06 AM 11/2/2021, you wrote:
hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from
Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if
there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy












.


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

The subscription has been available in Canada since July.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Being Canadian the subscription was not available to me. Perhaps that's changed however, purchasing the SMA was more cost affective in the long run. It cost $160 for 2 years, as apposed to $95 per year with a subscription.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: November 2, 2021 3:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

There is an annual subscription, some might find it affordable.
It cost about $95 a year, in the US, For Personal/non-commercial use Install on 3 PCs.
TC

On 11/2/21, Billy Inglis <billyinglis49@...> wrote:
hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from
Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if
there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy






moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

I do use a pair of USB headphones for Zoom meetings, but never keep them plugged in. I only plug them in when using them for a meeting.

I'm now really starting to wonder if my issue does have something to do with sound card configurations, or with the new Dell drivers I received after updating to Windows 10.

I should point out that the Windows start-up sound initially played right after the Windows 10 update, but stopped after I updated my Dell drivers.

Not quite sure how to fix this, but at least we might be getting closer to the cause of the issue.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. Do you also have a pair of USB headphones plugged in, but aren't using them at the time you restart your computer? This could cause the startup sound to come through the headphones, and the other sounds like JAWS and music to come through another sound card. If you're not using the headphones all the time, make sure the startup sound isn't coming through any plugged-in headphones, no matter how the other sound cards are configured.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Bill:

Yes, I do have a secondary sound card, but, at least as far as I can tell, re-arranging the sound card configurations has not allowed the startup sound to come back.

Will continue to check this possibility out, though.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. I have a question. Do you have a secondary sound card installed in your Dell? If so, the system sounds may be going to the default sound card, and JAWS and all other sounds to the secondary sound card. This could be why you aren't hearing your startup sound.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Which is exactly why people really need to mention where they live when they ask questions about Jaws pricing or  any other pricing or availability of maybe certain subscriptions or software

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Hi,

 

Billy is in the UK I believe.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Rinehart
Sent: 02 November 2021 12:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

Also if you live in the US or a territory, try to find the tech act program in your state to see if they have a low interest extended term loan program folks can use to buy technology. 

 

On Nov 2, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Loy <loyrg2845@...> wrote:



You can get a Annual Home subscription for JAWS for  around $90 a year. There is also a free screen reader "NVDA"

----- Original Message -----

From: Billy Inglis

Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:06 AM

Subject: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

 

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


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moderated Re: jaws updates

Ron Pelletier
 

Hi,

If you had the annual licence you purchased for 5 years you need to go to the Freedom webb site and download the one that is there. Then you have to go to portal.freedomscientific.com, sign into your account with your e-mail and the password you used for your account and activate your computer. In your Download folder, there will be a .exe file you need to run. That will activate your JAWS 2022.

HTH

Ron & Globe

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:09 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws updates

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice. Back when jfw 20
21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the next four or five updates. I haven't got any update so far. But my friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the updates for 20 21.


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Tom, why don't you give the Microsoft Disability Desk a call and ask if they can help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Bill:

Yes, I do have a secondary sound card, but, at least as far as I can tell, re-arranging the sound card configurations has not allowed the startup sound to come back.

Will continue to check this possibility out, though.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. I have a question. Do you have a secondary sound card installed in your Dell? If so, the system sounds may be going to the default sound card, and JAWS and all other sounds to the secondary sound card. This could be why you aren't hearing your startup sound.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Not so, I have several HP EliteDesk Mini PC's and they have internal speakers like a laptop, but they are not very good. On one of them the default soundcard for Windows as well as Jaws is the connected HDMI monitor which also has speakers, but no matter what I have tried, the Windows startup sound plays very quietly on the internal speakers of the computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 2, 2021 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Sieghard:

The windows startup sound is checked, but I still don't get the sound when I boot up my computer.

I'm told that I might have to enable "fast startup" in order to make this happen.

Can you confirm this?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 1:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

The startup sound is a simple checkbox.
Open Control Panel
Go to Sound and press enter
Pres Control + Tab twice to go from the Playback tab to the Recording tab and finally the Sounds tab, you can also press Shift + Tab until you hear "Playback tab" and then arrow right twice to Sounds Tab until you hear "Play Windows Startup Sound" and make sure the checkbox is checked, then tab to OK and activate it.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: jaws updates

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

Before one can answer your question I need a little more information. What version of the operating system is the computer running? Is it Windows 7 or 10?

In the Options Menu under Basic Settings, is the Check for Updates checked?

Please answer these questions and I could possibly help you a little further.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 11:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws updates

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice. Back when jfw 20
21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the next four or five updates. I haven't got any update so far. But my friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the updates for 20 21.


moderated Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. Do you also have a pair of USB headphones plugged in, but aren't using them at the time you restart your computer? This could cause the startup sound to come through the headphones, and the other sounds like JAWS and music to come through another sound card. If you're not using the headphones all the time, make sure the startup sound isn't coming through any plugged-in headphones, no matter how the other sound cards are configured.

Bill White

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Bill:

Yes, I do have a secondary sound card, but, at least as far as I can tell, re-arranging the sound card configurations has not allowed the startup sound to come back.

Will continue to check this possibility out, though.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. I have a question. Do you have a secondary sound card installed in your Dell? If so, the system sounds may be going to the default sound card, and JAWS and all other sounds to the secondary sound card. This could be why you aren't hearing your startup sound.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

So, how do you make it so that startup is defined in your sound scheme?

This is all new to me.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

I've never heard of that one.

Fast Start Up is uncheck on all my machines, and the Windows start up sound works.

The issue I believe is that no start up sound is defined in your sound scheme, in that case, it won't work.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 November 2021 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Hi, Tom. On some computers, the startup sound won't play unless Fast Startup is checked.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Still Have Problems Activating Windows Startup Sound

Dave and all:

I followed the instructions below for activating the windows start-up sound, and play windows startup sound is checked.

However, when I shut down and then re-boot my computer, the start-up sound does not play.

I am referring here to the older computer that I recently updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7.

I believe that the windows start-up sound played immediately after I did the update, but no longer plays after I downloaded and installed new Dell drivers for my system.

Is there anything else I should check?

Tom Behler

How to turn on the "play Windows startup sound" function in Windows 10

1. When you are at the desktop, tap the WINDOWS Key, and type "change system sounds" (without the quotes, in the search edit field. Generally, as soon as you type the two letters ch, Windows usually delimits to this result. If it does, press ENTER, to open the utility.

2. When the utility opens, JAWS will speak some Windows information about system sound themes. If you do not wish to listen to the information, Tap the CTRL key, to stop JAWS speaking the infomation.

3, Tap the TAB key, until JAWS says, "play Windows startup sound". JAWS will tell you it is unchecked. This is the default setting.

4. Tap the SPACE BAR, to check the check box.

5. Tap the TAB key until you get to the Apply button, press the SPACE BAR, to apply the change

6. Tap the TAB key, until you get to the OK button, Press the SPACE BAR or, the ENTER key, to activate the OK button, to close the utility and return the system to the Desktop.

7. When you turn on the computer, restart Windows or, you wake the computer using either the Sleep mode or, Hibernation Mode, the play Windows startup sound will be played.

8. After you hear the Windows Startup sound, if you are someone who needs to enter a Windows password or, a Microsoft account password to log in to Windows, and you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start at the Log on screen, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator. When Narrator starts speaking, Narrator should tell you , that you are at the point where you need to enter the Windows password or, the Microsoft account password to log into Windows.

9. If you are someone who has disabled the default log on screen, when you hear the play Windows startup sound, Windows is at the Desktop. If you have not installed another screen reader or, you have, but it has not been set to start after Windows Log on, this is where you need to press CTRL+WINDOWS
KEY+ENTER, to start Narrator and get access to Windows.


moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Billy Inglis
 

hi Pat, thanks for reply. I have been informed not to contact Freedom Scientific as they are very expensive. Windoweys would be the screen reader for me, but no longer available in the UK, Billy

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Billy,
Since you are in the U K I am not sure what your options
are. Contact Freedom Scientific - better than my guessing
Pat Byrne.At 05:06 AM 11/2/2021, you wrote:
hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy


moderated Re: jaws updates

Bill White
 

Hi, Curt. Under JAWS key plus J>Options>Basics, is your JAWS set to remind you of updates? This check box should be about five presses of the TAB key in Basics.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curt Taubert
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 9:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: jaws updates

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice. Back when jfw 20
21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the
next four or five updates. I haven't got any update so far. But my
friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the
updates for 20 21.


moderated jaws updates

Curt Taubert
 

Hi, I have a question maybe someone has some advice.  Back when jfw 20 21 came out, I with the help of my Dad signed up for, I think it was the next four or five updates.  I haven't got any update so far.  But my friend signed up for a different plan and says he's been getting all the updates for 20 21.

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