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moderated Re: Reading Kindle Book Seems Broken in Jaws2022

Ed Culpepper
 

I should have mentioned that I can unload Jaws2022 and load Jaws2021 and all Jaws reading keystrokes work as expected in Kindle books. If I switch back to Jaws2022 nothing but Kindle keystrokes work to read a Kindle text. Jaws2022 appears to be broken for reading Kindle books. I have contacted Vispero/Freedom Scientific tech support but have not heard back yet.

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: Synonym searching with JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

IN answer to mark’s question, no, JAWS find cannot search for synonyms. The most convenient way I know to find synonyms is to open Google, go into the search field, and type the word synonyms followed by a colon, then a space, then the word. Thus:

synonyms: dog

 

FYI, you could download a program called WordWeb which enables you to focus on a word in your document and get a definition, synonyms, similars, and so on. the information it provides is limited, but often a quick way of getting this kind of information. “Puppy” and other names for dogs might fall under the “similars” category.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 2:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Synonym searching with JAWS

 

Mark, a synonym is a word which means the same as the one you have.  The words you mention are not synonyms for dog.  A puppy is a young dog and the other words refer to breeds of dog.

 

Don

 

From: Mark

Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 6:43 PM

Subject: Synonym searching with JAWS

 

I think this question has been asked before, but I haven't been able to find an answer. Suppose I am interested in dogs. There are many synonyms for dog, like puppy, poodle, terrier, German Shepard, and so on.
Could I configure JAWS so that when I do control + f and type dog, it will also search for any of these synonyms? 


moderated Re: Synonym searching with JAWS

Mark
 

You're right Don. Thanks for saying that. I suppose the feature I'm talking about would be better called "find related words".  A simplified example could be a user configures JAWS to search for the words login, log in, sign on, sign in, sign up, sign-up, connect, or "go to" when searching for the word "sign in". Each of those variants have different spacing and hyphens but are related in a way the user thinks is meaningful. The user could configure it for other things. Like making a search for the word "hiring" match with words or phrases such as: employment, join our team, opportunities, staffing, hiring, etc. It would be up to the user to decide those related words.


moderated Re: Reading Kindle Book Seems Broken in Jaws2022

Shankar.C <shankar.c@...>
 

Hi there,

From the table of contents, selecting any topic and pressing enter the content get loaded and the focus will be on the page, just turn off the virtual cursor and use arrow keys and try reading the book.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: 29 October 2021 11:08 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Reading Kindle Book Seems Broken in Jaws2022

 

I have installed Jaws 2022 on my computers and have had trouble reading Kindle books on both my desktop and laptop computers. I have been accustomed to reading by using Jaws keystrokes as I would read a Word or other document. Now, however, the only way I can read is to enable “text to speech” in Kindle (Ctrl t) and start or pause reading with the shift-spacebar keystroke. I cannot navigate the text by character, word, sentence, or any of the standard Jaws ways of reading a text. This is occurring in books that I had begun reading prior to installing Jaws 2022 and had been using Jaws keyboard commands to navigate and read the Kindle books. From this description can anyone diagnose something that I am doing wrong? Is this a giant step backwards in reading Kindle content with this version of Jaws?

Many thanks in advance for any restorative suggestions.

Ed Culpepper

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: Synonym searching with JAWS

Don Walls
 

Mark, a synonym is a word which means the same as the one you have.  The words you mention are not synonyms for dog.  A puppy is a young dog and the other words refer to breeds of dog.
 
Don
 

From: Mark
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 6:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Synonym searching with JAWS
 
I think this question has been asked before, but I haven't been able to find an answer. Suppose I am interested in dogs. There are many synonyms for dog, like puppy, poodle, terrier, German Shepard, and so on.
Could I configure JAWS so that when I do control + f and type dog, it will also search for any of these synonyms? 


moderated Re: Outlook account/contacts issues

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

First o fall , when you set up an Outlook.com account in the Outlook desktop client and you enter the user name and password it automatically creates the account and Exchange Active Sync if that is still what Microsoft calls it will be used. It is in my opinion a better protocol than IMAP, but I don't really want to go there because some probably argue it is the other way around.

Anyways, when you say you imported messages, what does this exactly mean? Did you bring messages from another mail account into the new Outlook.com account?

You might want to take a look at the account settings, by default Outlook syncs only I believe 3 months or so of messages, but you can adjust this from as little as 1 day to All, if you leave it say at 1 year and you have messages that are older they are not lost, but they won't be synced to your computer.
To change this go to File > Account Settings and if there is only one account tab to "Change" and activate it, you will hear:

Download email for the past left right slider 11

You would probably hear a lower number because 11 is the value if you want to sync/download all mail, here is what the numbers mean (you can review this with the Jaws cursor):

1 = 1 day
2 = 3 days
3 = 1 week
4 = 2 weeks
5 = 1 month
6 = 3 months
7 = 6 months
8 = 1 year
9 = 2 years
10 = 5 years
11 = All

Take care,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: October 29, 2021 10:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Outlook account/contacts issues

Hi all,
Not sure if any of these issues can be fixed, but I figured I'd ask since you guys have helped me out before. I created an outlook.com account on Monday and since Tuesday I've had some issues that I'd like fixed. I have a bunch of old messages that I've kept and when I imported everything they were in my inbox, but yesterday I looked and I noticed that the oldest message that was there was from a year ago, but I had ones from 2018, 2019 and earlier in 2020. I also have 5 folders within my inbox and I noticed yesterday that all of the messages that were in one of the folders were gone as well. Any idea what could've happened to all of these messages between when I imported everything and yesterday, and also is there any way I might be able to get them back? Before anyone asks/assumes I didn't delete any of them, if I was going to do that I would've done that before I imported stuff. I don't look at any of these messages regularly, but I kept them just in case I ever needed/wanted to refer back to any of the info in any of them. Now when I imported all of my contacts I got some message saying that they couldn't be imported into this folder (the contacts one in outlook that comes up when you press control 3) so they'd be placed in another folder with the same name and that got put up where the sent and junk folders and those sorts of folders are. So I went into it and I was able to read through my contacts, but I wasn't able to do anything with them, like delete or edit any of them. Any idea why I might've gotten this message and if there's any way that I can get my contacts back into the normal contacts folder so that I can do stuff with them again when I need/want too? Now this account isn't an imap account like my other two accounts are, it's a Microsoft exchange account, I didn't ask for it to be created like this, it's just how it happened, could this explain any of my issues? I'd love to have it be an imap account, but not sure if it's possible to change this and even if it is I don't know how to do it. I'm using the latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope there's something that can be done to help me, any help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!!!! Thanks Madison


moderated Synonym searching with JAWS

Mark
 

I think this question has been asked before, but I haven't been able to find an answer. Suppose I am interested in dogs. There are many synonyms for dog, like puppy, poodle, terrier, German Shepard, and so on.
Could I configure JAWS so that when I do control + f and type dog, it will also search for any of these synonyms? 


moderated Reading Kindle Book Seems Broken in Jaws2022

Ed Culpepper
 

I have installed Jaws 2022 on my computers and have had trouble reading Kindle books on both my desktop and laptop computers. I have been accustomed to reading by using Jaws keystrokes as I would read a Word or other document. Now, however, the only way I can read is to enable “text to speech” in Kindle (Ctrl t) and start or pause reading with the shift-spacebar keystroke. I cannot navigate the text by character, word, sentence, or any of the standard Jaws ways of reading a text. This is occurring in books that I had begun reading prior to installing Jaws 2022 and had been using Jaws keyboard commands to navigate and read the Kindle books. From this description can anyone diagnose something that I am doing wrong? Is this a giant step backwards in reading Kindle content with this version of Jaws?

Many thanks in advance for any restorative suggestions.

Ed Culpepper

 

J Edward Culpepper, PhD

Huntsville, Alabama

 


moderated Re: next door question

Judy
 

Thank you, no belittlement taken! Judy

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 1:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Hi Judy,

 

I don't want to belittle your computer knowledge or accomplishments in your job, but I think it is very important nowadays that if you want to participate fully on social media sites, do the best you can at your job and all in all make your life easier it is more important than ever to continuously educate yourself and especially to learn your screenreader of choice whether that is Jaws or NVDA, inside out.

If you do use Jaws as you are, you have a lot of resources at your disposal from the Jaws Command Search if you are trying to do something and can't recall the keyboard shortcut to the Jaws help Topics and the Training section also accessed through Jaws menu > Help and which in turn leads to the Jaws training website, SurfsUp. .

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: October 28, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Steve, no insult taken on my part here. I was trained by my sighted boss at work years back, who knew enough to teach someone who had never used a computer in their life. I never went through a regular computer training class. That’s why this list is so good, as I am not familiar with the alt down arrow for opening combo boxes. I have picked up more things over the years for sure. Thanks for that update and how you accessed it, and I’m glad you included what you did because there are obviously others having problems who probably are more savvy than I am, and it shouldn’t be so hard. Please let us know ifyou receive a reply from them. Thanks again. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Out of curiosity I just signed up for Next Door and while there aren't that many people on there for my small community, there are some and I was able to read their posts, I was also able to start a new message and since I noticed one name of a person I knew I selected him and that worked fine.

I also went into the Help section under My Account and after I searched for "Accessibility" and this produced no results I selected the "Contact Us" option.

I was then presented with a form where I had to select a category, what my request was about, i.e. Feature request/improvement and then I could fill in my email, name, address, a subject and my message.

I was able to access the two combo boxes to select the topic and such without any issues, but I had to use Alt + Down arrow to open them and arrow through the choices since Enter did not work.

I just wrote that I am new and visually impaired using a screenreader and that in a recent discussion on a mailing list many people complained about the accessibility of the Next Door website and I then included maybe half a dozen messages from the thread where people were saying how they found accessibility lacking and that some left the platform.

As I said, so far I find no major issues, but then of course I haven't done much on the site. I would like to preface my next comment by saying I don't mean to insult anybody, but I do sometimes find that people say a site is not accessible when in fact it is and they just don't know how to leverage the functions of their screenreader to their fullest potential. That does not mean improvements shouldn't be made, but Jaws officially says that Alt _+ Down Arrow opens a combo box and while Enter may work on many, if a combo box only responds to Alt + Down Arrow and somebody doesn't know this it does not make said combo box or webpage inaccessible.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: October 28, 2021 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I had to leave NextDoor a couple of years ago because it became very inaccessible.  Prior to that change, it was mostly accessible.  This really sucks because it was a fun, useful and important app.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: getting more voices in jaws.

Loy
 

Open the JAWS menu with Insert J, o for options, then v for voices and down to add or remove voices.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 2:37 PM
Subject: getting more voices in jaws.

Hi all, I have jaws 2021on my windows ten computer. Is there a way to get more voices on jaws? I have eloquence now and would like some more choices. Thanks f or your help. Jim


moderated getting more voices in jaws.

Jim Rawls
 

Hi all, I have jaws 2021on my windows ten computer. Is there a way to get more voices on jaws? I have eloquence now and would like some more choices. Thanks f or your help. Jim


moderated Re: Newest JFW goes silent immediately after log in

David Diamond
 

Do the one letter thing then go into basic settings and follow the prompts, check start JAWS at login. Funny this because with pretty much every update save 022 I’ve had to set the JAWS to start at login.  In essence I’ve had the reverse in what is happening with Dan. To date I’ve had no problems with JAWS 2022, including the migration of the settings, or more specifically, the vocalizer express voices have been migrated at the same time, not the case in prior versions.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: October 29, 2021 7:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Newest JFW goes silent immediately after log in

 

JFW 22 installed and then this began; I end up having to go to desktop and activate JAWS with first letter navigation, how can I fix?

Dan

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


moderated Outlook account/contacts issues

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
Not sure if any of these issues can be fixed, but I figured I'd ask since you guys have helped me out before. I created an outlook.com account on Monday and since Tuesday I've had some issues that I'd like fixed. I have a bunch of old messages that I've kept and when I imported everything they were in my inbox, but yesterday I looked and I noticed that the oldest message that was there was from a year ago, but I had ones from 2018, 2019 and earlier in 2020. I also have 5 folders within my inbox and I noticed yesterday that all of the messages that were in one of the folders were gone as well. Any idea what could've happened to all of these messages between when I imported everything and yesterday, and also is there any way I might be able to get them back? Before anyone asks/assumes I didn't delete any of them, if I was going to do that I would've done that before I imported stuff. I don't look at any of these messages regularly, but I kept them just in case I ever needed/wanted to refer back to any of the info in any of them. Now when I imported all of my contacts I got some message saying that they couldn't be imported into this folder (the contacts one in outlook that comes up when you press control 3) so they'd be placed in another folder with the same name and that got put up where the sent and junk folders and those sorts of folders are. So I went into it and I was able to read through my contacts, but I wasn't able to do anything with them, like delete or edit any of them. Any idea why I might've gotten this message and if there's any way that I can get my contacts back into the normal contacts folder so that I can do stuff with them again when I need/want too? Now this account isn't an imap account like my other two accounts are, it's a Microsoft exchange account, I didn't ask for it to be created like this, it's just how it happened, could this explain any of my issues? I'd love to have it be an imap account, but not sure if it's possible to change this and even if it is I don't know how to do it. I'm using the latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope there's something that can be done to help me, any help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!!!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Newest JFW goes silent immediately after log in

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Have you checked what your Jaws Startup settings are and that start Jaws a logon is turned on?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: October 29, 2021 7:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Newest JFW goes silent immediately after log in

 

JFW 22 installed and then this began; I end up having to go to desktop and activate JAWS with first letter navigation, how can I fix?

Dan

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


moderated Newest JFW goes silent immediately after log in

Dan Yates
 

JFW 22 installed and then this began; I end up having to go to desktop and activate JAWS with first letter navigation, how can I fix?

Dan

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

lim yewyi
 

On 14 Oct 2021, at 10:41 AM, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:

I suspect you do but I only have one account so can't check.

On 10/13/21, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@...> wrote:
I don't see the "Set Basic HTML View as Default" option either. I just
see "Standard" and then "Learn More". Glad it's not just me.

You wrote: "To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button)."

If you have more than one account, do you need to bookmark each
account's Inbox separately when you change to the Basic HTML view to
have the mailbox's webpage open in Basic HTML?

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit the
basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least mostly
made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@...> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page after
you
have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the Basic
HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning. Hopefully it stays
that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as the
default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle it on
when
I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the "set Basic HTML as
the
default view" that I used to see before, and it isn't under the
Settings,
either. (Sight dependent people seem to like the Standard view better;
when
my husband needs to find something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard
view, and I'd find it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not
very
JFW or this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@...> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version.  Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version.  Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@...> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary
error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@...








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moderated Re: next door question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Judy,

 

I don't want to belittle your computer knowledge or accomplishments in your job, but I think it is very important nowadays that if you want to participate fully on social media sites, do the best you can at your job and all in all make your life easier it is more important than ever to continuously educate yourself and especially to learn your screenreader of choice whether that is Jaws or NVDA, inside out.

If you do use Jaws as you are, you have a lot of resources at your disposal from the Jaws Command Search if you are trying to do something and can't recall the keyboard shortcut to the Jaws help Topics and the Training section also accessed through Jaws menu > Help and which in turn leads to the Jaws training website, SurfsUp. .

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: October 28, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Steve, no insult taken on my part here. I was trained by my sighted boss at work years back, who knew enough to teach someone who had never used a computer in their life. I never went through a regular computer training class. That’s why this list is so good, as I am not familiar with the alt down arrow for opening combo boxes. I have picked up more things over the years for sure. Thanks for that update and how you accessed it, and I’m glad you included what you did because there are obviously others having problems who probably are more savvy than I am, and it shouldn’t be so hard. Please let us know ifyou receive a reply from them. Thanks again. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Out of curiosity I just signed up for Next Door and while there aren't that many people on there for my small community, there are some and I was able to read their posts, I was also able to start a new message and since I noticed one name of a person I knew I selected him and that worked fine.

I also went into the Help section under My Account and after I searched for "Accessibility" and this produced no results I selected the "Contact Us" option.

I was then presented with a form where I had to select a category, what my request was about, i.e. Feature request/improvement and then I could fill in my email, name, address, a subject and my message.

I was able to access the two combo boxes to select the topic and such without any issues, but I had to use Alt + Down arrow to open them and arrow through the choices since Enter did not work.

I just wrote that I am new and visually impaired using a screenreader and that in a recent discussion on a mailing list many people complained about the accessibility of the Next Door website and I then included maybe half a dozen messages from the thread where people were saying how they found accessibility lacking and that some left the platform.

As I said, so far I find no major issues, but then of course I haven't done much on the site. I would like to preface my next comment by saying I don't mean to insult anybody, but I do sometimes find that people say a site is not accessible when in fact it is and they just don't know how to leverage the functions of their screenreader to their fullest potential. That does not mean improvements shouldn't be made, but Jaws officially says that Alt _+ Down Arrow opens a combo box and while Enter may work on many, if a combo box only responds to Alt + Down Arrow and somebody doesn't know this it does not make said combo box or webpage inaccessible.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: October 28, 2021 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I had to leave NextDoor a couple of years ago because it became very inaccessible.  Prior to that change, it was mostly accessible.  This really sucks because it was a fun, useful and important app.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Bill White
 

Zoom Keyboard Shortcuts
Zoom Version 5,8,3,1581

Navigate Among Zoom Popup Windows
F6
Change Focus to Zoom Meeting Controls (On Top when Sharing Screen)
Ctrl+Alt+Shift
View the Previous Page of Video Participants in Gallery View
Page Up
View the Next Page of Video Participants in Gallery View
Page Down
Always Show Meeting Controls
Alt
Switch to Speaker View
Alt+F1
Switch to Gallery View
Alt+F2
Close Current Window
Alt+F4
Start/Stop Video
Alt+V
Mute/Unmute My Audio
Alt+A
Unmute Audio for Everyone Except Host (Host Only)
Alt+M
Start/Stop Screen Sharing
Alt+S
Show/Hide Windows and Applications Available to Share
Alt+Shift+S
Pause/Resume Screen Sharing
Alt+T
Start/Stop Local Recording
Alt+R
Start/Stop Cloud Recording
Alt+C
Pause/Resume Recording
Alt+P
Switch Camera
Alt+N
Enter/Exit Full Screen Mode
Alt+F
Show/Hide In-meeting Chat Panel
Alt+H
Show/Hide Participants Panel
Alt+U
Open the invite window
Alt+I
Raise/Lower Hand
Alt+Y
End Meeting
Alt+Q
Begin Remote Control
Alt+Shift+R
Revoke/Give up Remote Control
Alt+Shift+G
Read active speaker name
Ctrl+2
Show/Hide Floating Meeting Controls
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H
Increase chat display size
Ctrl++
Decrease chat display size
Ctrl+-
Screenshot
Alt+Shift+T
Switch to Portrait/Landscape View
Alt+L
Hide current chat session
Ctrl+W
Go to Previous Chat
Ctrl+Up
Go to Next Chat
Ctrl+Down
Back in Chat
Alt+Left
Forward in Chat
Alt+Right
Jump to Chat with Someone
Ctrl+T
Search
Ctrl+F
Call highlighted number/Search Directory
Ctrl+P
Accept Call
Ctrl+Shift+A
End Call
Ctrl+Shift+E
Decline Call
Ctrl+Shift+D
Mute/Unmute Call
Ctrl+Shift+M
Hold/Unhold Call
Ctrl+Shift+H

Zoom Shortcuts Exclusive to JAWS 2021 and Later

To enable or disable alerts
press Alt+Windows+S.
To hear the most recent alert
press Alt+Windows+A.
To be reminded of whether alert announcements are enabled or disabled
press JAWSKey+Tab.
To review the last 10 alerts or messages
press Control+1 through to Control+0. Press twice quickly to virtualise.
To only allow chat messages when pressing Control+1 through to Control+0
press control+F5.
To have Zoom announce who's currently talking
press control+Shift+T.

Functionality has also been added to report:
The state of recording when ALT+R is pressed. This is a keystroke which enables or disables the recording.
Whether the recording has been paused or is resuming when ALT+P is pressed.
Whether the audio has been muted for all participants when ALT+A is pressed.

The controls for scheduling and creating a meeting should also be easier to understand.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 8:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Does anyone have a list of zoom commands? Would appreciate a share.
Thanks.

On 10/28/2021 4:43 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I've forced to find that button and use space bar.Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>billwhite92701@att.net

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin



















moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Justin Williams
 

I found them online, but someone might have 2021 exact commands.

Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 11:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Does anyone have a list of zoom commands? Would appreciate a share. Thanks.

On 10/28/2021 4:43 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I've forced to find that button and use space bar.Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM
Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind
you) and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not
inside the participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not.
It says your name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My
computer just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I
have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not
alt+it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>billwhite92701@att.net

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for
muting and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin



















moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Howard Traxler
 

Does anyone have a list of zoom commands?  Would appreciate a share.  Thanks.

On 10/28/2021 4:43 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I've forced to find that button and use space bar.Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@att.net>billwhite92701@att.net

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin

















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