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moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Soronel Haetir
 

Okay, yeah, my "shutdown or sign out" menu has sleep and shut down but
not hibernate. Don't remember doing this, my startup seems plenty fast
(about five sec if not doing an update).

On 10/28/21, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Tom. Do you already have hybernate disabled? If so, you won't find Fast
Startup under Power Options>Choose What The Power Buttons Do>Change Settings
that are Currently Unavailable.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Bill:

Once I get to "change settings that are currently unavailable,, and then
scroll down to shutdown, I find no options to uncheck relating to fast
startup. I get a bunch of options rgarding the sleep settings, what happens
when closing the laptop lid, ect., but again, nothing pertaining to fast
startup.

This also was verified by sighted assistance.

Tom Behler




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hi, Tom. Try the following,

1. Open the "run" dialog, and in the dialog box, type control panel 2. Press
ENTER.
3. Press the letter P until you hear Power Options, and continue with
Sieghard's instructions.

Incidentally, apparently you are having the same problem as others here have
had, where search is not displaying what is on your computer, and instead,
is taking you directly to web entries.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540
laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the
windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the
Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate
the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that
you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not,
navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to
Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of
the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently
unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended)
checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.
























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Soronel Haetir
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moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. Do you already have hybernate disabled? If so, you won't find Fast Startup under Power Options>Choose What The Power Buttons Do>Change Settings that are Currently Unavailable.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Bill:

Once I get to "change settings that are currently unavailable,, and then scroll down to shutdown, I find no options to uncheck relating to fast startup. I get a bunch of options rgarding the sleep settings, what happens when closing the laptop lid, ect., but again, nothing pertaining to fast startup.

This also was verified by sighted assistance.

Tom Behler




-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hi, Tom. Try the following,

1. Open the "run" dialog, and in the dialog box, type control panel 2. Press ENTER.
3. Press the letter P until you hear Power Options, and continue with Sieghard's instructions.

Incidentally, apparently you are having the same problem as others here have had, where search is not displaying what is on your computer, and instead, is taking you directly to web entries.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540 laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not, navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.


moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

 

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 05:34 PM, Soronel Haetir wrote:
But even after activating the "Change settings that are currently
unavailable " link I do not have a shutdown section or anything about
fast startup, (at least not that is in the tab order).
-
As Bill has previously noted, if the hibernate function has been disabled then Fast Startup will not show up, because it relies on the hibernate function.

And if it doesn't show up, then it's definitely not on.

I believe you've already done what's in my tutorial, but I'm putting it there for others; Turn Off Windows 10 Fast Startup
And if hibernate has been disabled, then Fast Startup will not appear.
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moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

Once I get to "change settings that are currently unavailable,, and then scroll down to shutdown, I find no options to uncheck relating to fast startup. I get a bunch of options rgarding the sleep settings, what happens when closing the laptop lid, ect., but again, nothing pertaining to fast startup.

This also was verified by sighted assistance.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hi, Tom. Try the following,

1. Open the "run" dialog, and in the dialog box, type control panel 2. Press ENTER.
3. Press the letter P until you hear Power Options, and continue with Sieghard's instructions.

Incidentally, apparently you are having the same problem as others here have had, where search is not displaying what is on your computer, and instead, is taking you directly to web entries.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540 laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not, navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.


moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Ben Moxey
 

Hey Justin

Another thing to consider is that, by default, the Zoom window must be in
focus for the mute keyboard shortcut to work. A handy Zoom command to
memorise is Control + Alt + Shift, which brings the active Zoom meeting to
the front, no matter where you are. Do this first if you've been doing other
things and want to ensure Zoom is in focus.

Note that you can individually set Zoom's keyboard commands to be global
keyboard shortcuts, meaning that they will work from anywhere. I do have
mute/unmute set this way because I'm often reviewing documents etc and don't
want to move back and forth between applications. You can change these
options in the Keyboard Shortcuts area in Zoom's settings.

Note that I'm pretty sure you must be signed into a Zoom account to access
settings. Also, be careful when setting a keyboard shortcut to be global
because it may clash with keyboard commands from other applications when
Zoom is running. Choose wisely, and probably best to avoid changing these
options if you're unsure.

All the best!

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, 29 October 2021 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin





moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

JM Casey
 

Yeah, the button works, but alt-a still works for me as well. The button is
just handy to see whether you are, in fact, muted or not

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

I've forced to find that button and use space bar.Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin





moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Justin Williams
 

I've forced to find that button and use space bar.Justin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin





moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Soronel. You probably don't see the Fast Startup option in Power Options, because you may have Hybernate disabled in all circumstances, and Fast Startup is a type of hybernate.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

On my system (up to date win10) I can hit the windows key, type
"power" and go directly to "Power and Sleep Settings", from there
choose "Additional power settings" and on the screen that comes up the
"Choose what the power buttons do" link is available.

But even after activating the "Change settings that are currently
unavailable " link I do not have a shutdown section or anything about
fast startup, (at least not that is in the tab order).

On 10/28/21, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540
laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the
windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the
Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate
the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that
you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not,
navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to
Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of
the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently
unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended)
checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.







--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

JM Casey
 

Hm. I was in a meeting yesterday (using a rather old JFW version mind you)
and there was definitely a button on the main meeting page (not inside the
participants panel) that showed whether I was muted or not. It says your
name and then, "currently muted", or something, if you are muted.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: October 28, 2021 05:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: zoom 2021 commands

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer
just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to
alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it
did.
At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022,
and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

<mailto:billwhite92701@...>billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting
and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin





moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Soronel Haetir
 

On my system (up to date win10) I can hit the windows key, type
"power" and go directly to "Power and Sleep Settings", from there
choose "Additional power settings" and on the screen that comes up the
"Choose what the power buttons do" link is available.

But even after activating the "Change settings that are currently
unavailable " link I do not have a shutdown section or anything about
fast startup, (at least not that is in the tab order).

On 10/28/21, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540
laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the
windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the
Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate
the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that
you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not,
navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to
Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of
the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently
unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended)
checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

Ben Moxey
 

Hey everyone

 

Jason, did you sort it out?

 

First, I’d do a proper restart using the “Restart” option, which I’m sure you’ve already done.

 

If the problem still exists with JAWS 2022 and JAWS 2021 (if still on your system), unload JAWS and test the Alt + Tab behaviour with Narrator. You can toggle Narrator at any time by pressing Control + Windows + Enter. If Alt + Tab still isn’t working, it’s unlikely anything to do with JAWS.

 

Then, considering you said you haven’t changed anything, aside from installing JAWS 2022, I’m wondering if you have accidentally changed keyboard layouts with Windows + Space. If you have more than one keyboard layout installed, this command will change them on the fly.

 

If there’s nothing out of the ordinary with your keyboard layout, have you tried using both the left and right Alt keys, or a different keyboard?

 

In the meantime, you can also use JAWS key + F10 to bring up all of your running applications in a list. Choose the one you want and hit Enter to make it active.

 

Another handy way to view open applications that’s built right into Windows is to press Windows key + Tab and immediately release. This will load the Task view and allow you to use your left and right arrows to choose the open application. Once again, hit Enter to make it active.

 

All the best!

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, 29 October 2021 6:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Me either.

On 10/28/2021 11:15 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Nope, doesn’t work for me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: 28 October 2021 17:01
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Steve:

 

You need to press and release alt-escape key, unlike alt-tab where you hold down the alt key until you are in the window you want. It works on my regular computer as well, but I use alt-tab on my regular computer.

 

The reason I use alt-escape on my ElBraille is alt-tab will only cycle you between two windows, where alt-escape will move to all windows.

 

Best of luck with your issue.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:52 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi, Steve. It works here on Windows 10, build 19043.1320). JAWS 2022.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 8:43 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Wow, that doesn’t work for me, I’ve never heard of Alt Escape as a switch.

 

It must be an ElBraille thing.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: 27 October 2021 23:42
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Jason:

 

As an alternative, you can use alt-escape.  I use this on my ElBraille, as there is no way to hold down the alt key and tab repeatedly.  Every time you press alt-escape you move to the next window.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:09 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Yes, same keystroke combo I’ve used for years to do this. I use JFW 2022 professional on a windows 10 laptop.

 

Only change is updating to JFW 2022 from JFW 2021.

 

Going to call tech support.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 11:33 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 


IMPORTANT!! - External Content - Please use caution.

Greetings:

 

Are you holding down the Alt key when cycling through the windows? It is working for me on my Windows 10 system with JAWS 2022. Hold down alt and press tab repeatedly.

 

With warm regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:20 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi all,

When I alt+tab it just toggles me back and forth between the same 2 windows. If I want it to rotate through the open windows I have to use alt+shift+tab.  I seem to recall this feature was modified in an earlier version of JFW, but I can’t recall how to change it back.

 

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moderated Re: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. Try the following,

1. Open the "run" dialog, and in the dialog box, type control panel
2. Press ENTER.
3. Press the letter P until you hear Power Options, and continue with Sieghard's instructions.

Incidentally, apparently you are having the same problem as others here have had, where search is not displaying what is on your computer, and instead, is taking you directly to web entries.

Bill White

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540 laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not, navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.


moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Ann Byrne
 

Often although alt+a works, JAWS doesn't indicate that it does. My computer just dings as though there was an error, but there wasn't. I have to go to alt+u to locate myself in the list of attendees to see whether or not it did.

At 04:14 PM 10/28/2021, you wrote:
Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022, and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

Bill White

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting and unmuting don't work anymore.
How do I get them to work again?


Justin





moderated Re: next door question

Judy
 

Steve, no insult taken on my part here. I was trained by my sighted boss at work years back, who knew enough to teach someone who had never used a computer in their life. I never went through a regular computer training class. That’s why this list is so good, as I am not familiar with the alt down arrow for opening combo boxes. I have picked up more things over the years for sure. Thanks for that update and how you accessed it, and I’m glad you included what you did because there are obviously others having problems who probably are more savvy than I am, and it shouldn’t be so hard. Please let us know ifyou receive a reply from them. Thanks again. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Out of curiosity I just signed up for Next Door and while there aren't that many people on there for my small community, there are some and I was able to read their posts, I was also able to start a new message and since I noticed one name of a person I knew I selected him and that worked fine.

I also went into the Help section under My Account and after I searched for "Accessibility" and this produced no results I selected the "Contact Us" option.

I was then presented with a form where I had to select a category, what my request was about, i.e. Feature request/improvement and then I could fill in my email, name, address, a subject and my message.

I was able to access the two combo boxes to select the topic and such without any issues, but I had to use Alt + Down arrow to open them and arrow through the choices since Enter did not work.

I just wrote that I am new and visually impaired using a screenreader and that in a recent discussion on a mailing list many people complained about the accessibility of the Next Door website and I then included maybe half a dozen messages from the thread where people were saying how they found accessibility lacking and that some left the platform.

As I said, so far I find no major issues, but then of course I haven't done much on the site. I would like to preface my next comment by saying I don't mean to insult anybody, but I do sometimes find that people say a site is not accessible when in fact it is and they just don't know how to leverage the functions of their screenreader to their fullest potential. That does not mean improvements shouldn't be made, but Jaws officially says that Alt _+ Down Arrow opens a combo box and while Enter may work on many, if a combo box only responds to Alt + Down Arrow and somebody doesn't know this it does not make said combo box or webpage inaccessible.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: October 28, 2021 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I had to leave NextDoor a couple of years ago because it became very inaccessible.  Prior to that change, it was mostly accessible.  This really sucks because it was a fun, useful and important app.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: zoom 2021 commands

Bill White
 

Hi, Justin. I am using Windows 10, (OS Build 19043.1320), JAWS 2022, and mute is working fine for me with ALT plus A.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: zoom 2021 commands

 

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting and unmuting don't work anymore. 

How do I get them to work again?

 

 

Justin

 

 

 

 


moderated Having Trouble Turning Fast Startup Off In Windows 10

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

I'm having trouble turning off fast startup on the Dell Lattitude E6540 laptop computer I just updated to Windows 10.

When I type control panel into the Windows search box, accessed by the windows key, I seem to get internet links and get put automatically into the Microsoft Edge browser, rather than actual control panel options.

I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Here are instructions posted a few days ago by Siegard Weitzel.

If Sieghard or someone can give me further guidance, I'd really appreciate the assistance.

Thank you!

Tom Behler

Turn Off Win10 Fast Startup

1. Open Control Panel then select Power Options. This is presuming that you’re using the classic “Small Icons” view in Control Panel. If not, navigate to the “View by” control and select “Small Icons,” then navigate to Power Options.
2. Activate the Choose what the power button does link on the left side of the dialog.
3. In the dialog just opened, activate Change settings that are currently unavailable link.
4. Scroll down to the Shutdown settings section.
5. Remove the check mark from the Turn on Fast Startup (Recommended) checkbox.
6. Select the Save Changes Button.


moderated zoom 2021 commands

Justin Williams
 

It would appear as if you 2021 zoom commands, such as alt a for muting and unmuting don't work anymore. 

How do I get them to work again?

 

 

Justin

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

Marty Hutchings
 

Me either.

On 10/28/2021 11:15 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Nope, doesn’t work for me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: 28 October 2021 17:01
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Steve:

 

You need to press and release alt-escape key, unlike alt-tab where you hold down the alt key until you are in the window you want. It works on my regular computer as well, but I use alt-tab on my regular computer.

 

The reason I use alt-escape on my ElBraille is alt-tab will only cycle you between two windows, where alt-escape will move to all windows.

 

Best of luck with your issue.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi, Steve. It works here on Windows 10, build 19043.1320). JAWS 2022.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 8:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Wow, that doesn’t work for me, I’ve never heard of Alt Escape as a switch.

 

It must be an ElBraille thing.

 

All the best


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: 27 October 2021 23:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Jason:

 

As an alternative, you can use alt-escape.  I use this on my ElBraille, as there is no way to hold down the alt key and tab repeatedly.  Every time you press alt-escape you move to the next window.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Yes, same keystroke combo I’ve used for years to do this. I use JFW 2022 professional on a windows 10 laptop.

 

Only change is updating to JFW 2022 from JFW 2021.

 

Going to call tech support.

 

Thanks,

Jason

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 


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Greetings:

 

Are you holding down the Alt key when cycling through the windows? It is working for me on my Windows 10 system with JAWS 2022. Hold down alt and press tab repeatedly.

 

With warm regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi all,

When I alt+tab it just toggles me back and forth between the same 2 windows. If I want it to rotate through the open windows I have to use alt+shift+tab.  I seem to recall this feature was modified in an earlier version of JFW, but I can’t recall how to change it back.

 

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moderated Re: next door question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Out of curiosity I just signed up for Next Door and while there aren't that many people on there for my small community, there are some and I was able to read their posts, I was also able to start a new message and since I noticed one name of a person I knew I selected him and that worked fine.

I also went into the Help section under My Account and after I searched for "Accessibility" and this produced no results I selected the "Contact Us" option.

I was then presented with a form where I had to select a category, what my request was about, i.e. Feature request/improvement and then I could fill in my email, name, address, a subject and my message.

I was able to access the two combo boxes to select the topic and such without any issues, but I had to use Alt + Down arrow to open them and arrow through the choices since Enter did not work.

I just wrote that I am new and visually impaired using a screenreader and that in a recent discussion on a mailing list many people complained about the accessibility of the Next Door website and I then included maybe half a dozen messages from the thread where people were saying how they found accessibility lacking and that some left the platform.

As I said, so far I find no major issues, but then of course I haven't done much on the site. I would like to preface my next comment by saying I don't mean to insult anybody, but I do sometimes find that people say a site is not accessible when in fact it is and they just don't know how to leverage the functions of their screenreader to their fullest potential. That does not mean improvements shouldn't be made, but Jaws officially says that Alt _+ Down Arrow opens a combo box and while Enter may work on many, if a combo box only responds to Alt + Down Arrow and somebody doesn't know this it does not make said combo box or webpage inaccessible.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: October 28, 2021 11:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I had to leave NextDoor a couple of years ago because it became very inaccessible.  Prior to that change, it was mostly accessible.  This really sucks because it was a fun, useful and important app.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: [External] Re: next door question

Cook, Steve
 

The next door works on IOS

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Re: next door question

 

I had to leave NextDoor a couple of years ago because it became very inaccessible.  Prior to that change, it was mostly accessible.  This really sucks because it was a fun, useful and important app.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby

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