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moderated Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

 

Are you holding down the Alt key when cycling through the windows? It is working for me on my Windows 10 system with JAWS 2022. Hold down alt and press tab repeatedly.

 

With warm regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi all,

When I alt+tab it just toggles me back and forth between the same 2 windows. If I want it to rotate through the open windows I have to use alt+shift+tab.  I seem to recall this feature was modified in an earlier version of JFW, but I can’t recall how to change it back.

 

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moderated Re: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Using Windows 10 Home, and Jaws 2022 alt+tab is working as it always has.

If you do not release the alt key, it cycles through all open windows, when you release the keys, you land in whatever windows was spoken.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Boston, Jason W
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW 2022 and alt+tab

 

Hi all,

When I alt+tab it just toggles me back and forth between the same 2 windows. If I want it to rotate through the open windows I have to use alt+shift+tab.  I seem to recall this feature was modified in an earlier version of JFW, but I can’t recall how to change it back.

 

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moderated Re: next door question

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

What keystroke do you use to open the combo boxes?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: October 27, 2021 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated JFW 2022 and alt+tab

Boston, Jason W
 

Hi all,

When I alt+tab it just toggles me back and forth between the same 2 windows. If I want it to rotate through the open windows I have to use alt+shift+tab.  I seem to recall this feature was modified in an earlier version of JFW, but I can’t recall how to change it back.

 

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moderated Re: next door question

Judy
 

Laurie, thanks, that lets me know it’s not my 2019 jaws, even with the most current it doesn’t work. I can reply to someone else’s message, but that’s all I can do. I guess they care about neighbors as long as they aren’t disabled. It really steams me, something maybe the NFB or ACB can get on. Maybe a law suit would give them inspiration. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lori Lynn
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: [External] : will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Glenn / Lenny
 

LOL

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To: <main@jfw.groups.io>; "JFW list" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [External] : will the new jaws version work on windows 7


It will not.

I hope you realize that running Windows7 is a serious security risk to your entire system.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:44 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] : will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01 I understand this will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

 

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:56 AM, Don Mauck wrote:
I hope you realize that running Windows7 is a serious security risk to your entire system.
-
In addition, not-so-slowly but surely, any Windows-based software that is still undergoing development is going to stop working with Windows 7.  We're already six plus years in to the Windows 10 era, which itself will draw to a close in October 2025.

If someone wants to use the Windows ecosystem then they must keep their version as an officially supported one, as the number of security patches that come out in any given year as nefarious players find ever-more-clever ways in, are numerous.  Right now, for screen reader users, I'd stick with Windows 10.  Give Windows 11 at least six months (next April) if not longer to get through its shake out period and to allow for the screen reader developers to get through that period as well.

Attempting to continue using Windows 7 at this point in time is going to relegate your entire computing world into irrelevancy and inability to be updated.  That process is already well underway.
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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Glenn / Lenny
 

Maybe I'm wrong here, but I was told that folks cannot renew their older version of Jaws, it's get the new version or nothing.
If it's the case that windows 7 & 8 users cannot use the yearly subscription of Jaws, then FS should make a free version of Jaws for older systems.
That would be a good will gesture on their part, and they have to know that someday 7 & 8 will be as difficult to use on-line as XP is now, so they should not fear losing customers, unless they are just interested into bullying everyone into using newer windows so they can still selling yearly subscriptions.

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From: "Jim Weiss via groups.io" <jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7


You can still use a yearly subscription that will keep JAWS 2021 going for another year, you just wonâ?Tt get the update to JAWS 2022. If you so desired you could use a yearly subscription and stay on JAWS 2020, you are never forced to upgrade. If you turn off automatic updates and donâ?Tt check the website you wouldnâ?Tt even know that a new version was available.


On Oct 27, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:

So if you have only the yearly subscription, you are screwed as far as Jaws goes, because if you want to use a perfectly fine windows, your yearly subscription will stop working, and you cannot just get a new yearly subscription for your older windows.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7


No, It won't work as FS announced. check the link:
https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/216

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01Ã, I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true?Ã, I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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moderated Re: [External] : will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Don Mauck
 

It will not.

I hope you realize that running Windows7 is a serious security risk to your entire system.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:44 AM
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] : will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01  I understand this will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true?  I do not want to download and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

You can still use a yearly subscription that will keep JAWS 2021 going for another year, you just won’t get the update to JAWS 2022. If you so desired you could use a yearly subscription and stay on JAWS 2020, you are never forced to upgrade. If you turn off automatic updates and don’t check the website you wouldn’t even know that a new version was available.

On Oct 27, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:

So if you have only the yearly subscription, you are screwed as far as Jaws goes, because if you want to use a perfectly fine windows, your yearly subscription will stop working, and you cannot just get a new yearly subscription for your older windows.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7


No, It won't work as FS announced. check the link:
https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/216

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01Â I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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1 Thessalonians 4:16-18






George


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moderated Re: next door question

Lori Lynn
 

It’s funny that this question was sent. It’s been several months since I last used the page. Back then I could find and do whatever I needed to do. This week I gave up at it completely. I’m using Windows 10 and JAWS 22.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: next door question

John Doering
 

They sent out a survey not too long ago.

I asked for better accessibility for using screen reading software.

Have not heard back.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: next door question

 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: next door question

Barbara Sheinbein
 

I agree with you.  I am not sure accessibility is of much interest to them.  Sad face.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: next door question

 

Am I the only one who has noticed that Next Door has become more and more inaccessible. I used to be able to go to the home page, find a link for posting a message, pick the category etc. Now none of the combo boxes work for the purposes of picking your category so it won’t go through. Going to the help section and filling out a contact form is the same thing; none of the combo boxes work to choose topics. Has anyone had any success with this, posting a message etc? Using win 10 and jaws 19. Judy & Libby


moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Chris
 

You will have to upgrade your version of windows if you are that desperate for the latest jaws

 

 

From: G. Gray
Sent: 27 October 2021 10:44
To: JFW list
Subject: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

 

Hi Listers-

 

 

I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01  I understand this

will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true?  I do not want to download

and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!

 

 

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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Glenn / Lenny
 

So if you have only the yearly subscription, you are screwed as far as Jaws goes, because if you want to use a perfectly fine windows, your yearly subscription will stop working, and you cannot just get a new yearly subscription for your older windows.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hareth" <hareth4m@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7


No, It won't work as FS announced. check the link:
https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/216

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01Â I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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1 Thessalonians 4:16-18






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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Steve Nutt
 

In the What's New it says that Windows 7 and 8 support has ended for JAWS, so 2022 won't run on Windows 7.

All the best

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of G. Gray
Sent: 27 October 2021 10:44
To: JFW list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01 I understand this will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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moderated Re: JAWS not speaking at all on starting system

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

It's a Windows option, not a JAWS option.

It can be found in System, then Power Options.

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: 26 October 2021 16:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS not speaking at all on starting system

How do you disable fast startup in the Jaws options?

I've not been able to find this option here.

I'm wondering if this may be part of my problem with Jaws not coming up reliably on the older Dell Lattitude E6540 laptop that I just upgraded to Windows 10.

Am using the latest build of Jaws 2021 on that computer.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 11:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS not speaking at all on starting system

Do you have fast startup turned on? If so this could be your problem. If Jaws isn't coming up reliable and you are sure it is correctly set up to start at login I would disable this in Jaws Options and set up Narrator to start at the login screen and see if that works better. You can still set Jaws to start again after you log in, but use Narrator just for entering your password.

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Sent: October 25, 2021 11:03 PM
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Subject: JAWS not speaking at all on starting system

Hi all,
I use Windows 10, JAWS 2021. Though I have chosen the option for JAWS to start automatically, on some occasions, it does not speak at all.
This happens both on Starting as well as from Sleep mode. On checking through sighted assistance, my microphone is not muted.
Only option left is to restarting and keep doing till I hear JAWS speak.


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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

John Covici
 

It might work, but its not supported, so if it does not work, you are
sol.

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 05:50:58 -0400,
Hareth wrote:

No, It won't work as FS announced. check the link:
https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/216

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01  I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true?  I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Jacob
 

It'll not let you install at all on unsupported systems :-) So even you download it you can't do any thing wrong...


OZ0TE Jacob

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01 I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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1 Thessalonians 4:16-18






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moderated Re: will the new jaws version work on windows 7

Jeff Christiansen
 

Resoundingly, no





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On Oct 27, 2021, at 03:51, Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com> wrote:

No, It won't work as FS announced. check the link:
https://support.freedomscientific.com/About/News/Article/216

On 10/27/21, G. Gray <geogray@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hi Listers-


I see the new version of Jaws is available....2022.01 I understand this
will NOT work on Windows 7...is this true? I do not want to download
and install if it will cause problems...thanks!!!


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