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moderated Cannot find a tab in Google Docs

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi.

 

A firm has sent me a Google Docs spreadsheet. I’m told I need to click on the “Targets” tab. My sighted wife can find it, and the information I need is there, but I can’t get to it with JAWS.

 

FYI, I’m using the Google browser. I have accessibility settings set to screenreader and braille on (although I don’t use braille). I’ve also toggled the Excel commands on. I know the commands for moving from sheet to sheet, but they aren’t doing anything.

 

Again, I can’t even locate the “Targets” tab, never mind click on it.

 

Any ideas?

 


moderated J2022 Beta3 Download Link + What's New

Mike B.
 

Hi all,
 
J2022.2110.30 Beta 3 download link + what's new is below.
 
32 & 64 Bit Download Link:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2022 Public Beta 3
 
The following is a list of improvements made between Public Beta 2 and Public Beta 3. Note that while many customer-reported enhancements are included
in this release, the following is a list of more notable changes.
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2022 and Fusion 2022 Public Beta 3
list of 9 items
• In JAWS and Fusion, added new Quick Settings options for Outlook 365 that let you turn off the announcements for unread, replied, or forwarded. While
in Outlook 365, press INSERT+V for Quick Settings, and then search for "Indicate" to find the 3 options.
• Addressed a reported issue in Outlook 365 where JAWS was not announcing autocomplete results when typing names into the address fields of a new message.
• When pressing ESC to exit the Sound Cards layer (INSERT+SPACEBAR, V, C), JAWS now plays the sound to indicate you have exited the layer.
• If you configured JAWS to use a different sound card other than the Windows default, resolved an issue where JAWS generated sounds would continue playing
through the Windows default sound card until JAWS was restarted.
• Addressed a reported issue where Settings Center would become unresponsive if you typed a quotation mark in the Search edit box.
• Addressed an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected while navigating by line in Google Docs and you encountered a link spanning multiple lines.
• While the default font size for the Braille and Text Viewers is 20, it is now possible to set the size as low as 16 if needed.
• Resolved an issue where pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to launch the Flexible Web wizard was not working as expected in Edge Chromium.
• Added support for Azure Virtual Desktop.
list end
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Well, all I know is I tried to watch the Ken Burns Baseball and it said I had to have a Passport account…

 

I believe the only way you get a passport account is by being a subscriber to PBS. 

I refuse to give them any money in my area because they still do not provide audio description on many things I know have audio description.

This Fall  they have improved, but not yet enough.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

Richard, I watched the Mohammed Ali series he did  through the app with no PBS Passport subscription.

Wonder if what you say applies to only certain series?

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

They are there, but you have to have the PBS Passport which you get by donating on a regular basis.

And, I would hope they would include audio description.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Dan Yates <danneyyates@...> wrote:



In the app store, download PBS Video app and look under Ken Burns, all his stuff’s there

HTH

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

I would appreciate it. . Jim 


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

Dan Yates
 

Richard, I watched the Mohammed Ali series he did  through the app with no PBS Passport subscription.

Wonder if what you say applies to only certain series?

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

They are there, but you have to have the PBS Passport which you get by donating on a regular basis.

And, I would hope they would include audio description.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com

 

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)



On Oct 18, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Dan Yates <danneyyates@...> wrote:



In the app store, download PBS Video app and look under Ken Burns, all his stuff’s there

HTH

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

I would appreciate it. . Jim 


moderated Re: Auto-adding mails in Gmail Basic View

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Do you not have an addressbook? I'm familiar with the Google mail system, and don't usevery it ... sorry about that. However, can't you just select the contact you'd like to message? That's how it works with Outlook.
Ashleigh Piccinino

On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:51 AM, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038@...> wrote:

Hi,

In Gmail basic view, I have to manually enter an email address each
time I compose a new message. Is there a way to ensure that I only
have to type part of the address, and then get a suggestion, based on
email IDs I have sent mails to in the past, that I can select?

Warmly,
Rahul




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moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

 

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 07:25 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
I never back up Windows installations or apps, because resetting Windows is very accessible nowadays, with Narrrator.
-
In matters of taste, there is no right or wrong, so your choice is absolutely not wrong.

That being said, I'd rather gnaw off my own fingers than have to reconfigure a Windows system I've been using, and customizing, for years.  It's just so much easier to take a system image, including all user data regardless of what it's drive may have been, to have in my back pocket to restore from.  It usually takes me less than an hour, start to finish, to recover from a system image backup.  It takes a lot longer than that to do a fresh install of Windows and then do all the customizations I can recall that I've done as well as reinstall all the programs.  

And having your user data on a separate drive will do you no good if that drive were to fail.  But I presume you are consistently backing up that drive somehow.

There was a time where I separated user data and Windows on separate drives.  But in this age of huge drives, cheap, I don't.  The probability of any drive failing is about equal, and if you're using an SSD you need to be backing it up even more than an HDD (which should absolutely be backed up routinely, too) because when they fail they are beastly expensive to recover any data from if that's necessary.  With backup drives and/or cloud backup storage being so cheap these days, backing up, whether by system image or otherwise, should be a standard part of computer ownership - at least if you care about your data and never want to lose it.  I can assure anyone who uses a computer that they will, eventually, suffer a drive failure.  It may be only once every 20 years, but if you lose everything you'll regret, bitterly, not having bothered to take backups.
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moderated Re: Auto-adding mails in Gmail Basic View

Thomas N. Chan <thomas.nchan@...>
 

I believe that's the limitation of the basic view.
you either go into your address book or contact and send mail from there or just move to standard view.

its not that difficult to use and it pack with a lot of keyboard shortcut.

Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 15:51, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj1038@...> wrote:
Hi,

In Gmail basic view, I have to manually enter an email address each
time I compose a new message. Is there a way to ensure that I only
have to type part of the address, and then get a suggestion, based on
email IDs I have sent mails to in the past, that I can select?

Warmly,
Rahul




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Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford






moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

Chris Hill
 

I used to care more about where I stored things, but with a good imaging program, it just isn't important.  The last time I built a computer, I had a list of two dozen things I had to install and configure.  I'd sure rather use an image program than reinstall windows.  Life is too short.


CH



On 10/19/2021 06:25, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Brian,

 

I also make sure that all my personal files are never on Drive C:. I never back up Windows installations or apps, because resetting Windows is very accessible nowadays, with Narrrator.

 

I’d sooner restore Windows, then reinstall my apps.

 

Just personal, but I have never had to restore a system image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 13 October 2021 16:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

 

I absolutely hate, "What is the best . . .," questions about anything because best is really very subjective.

Macrium Reflect is a very good tool, its free version is more than adequate for any home user (and many small business users, thought they cannot use it under the license terms), and I wrote a tutorial about using it with a screen reader:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader

 


There are very precious few backup and recovery options that are accessible on the recovery side, and those I know about are paid.  I don't even worry about the recovery side as very few people DIY the recovery.  But because the recovery virtually always is in an environment that is not Windows, there's no screen reader support for it, much like there is not for UEFI/BIOS.

But having a backup for anyone to recover from, including yourself with sighted assistance if the need arises, is vastly preferable to losing everything or having to pay hundreds of dollars, minimum, to send a failed HDD out to a data recovery facility.  And at this time recovery fees for SSDs is at least double to triple what it costs to recover a HDD.
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moderated Re: Jaws/Fusion/ZoomText beta 3 is out

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Yes, Jaws version 2022.2110.30 is Public Beta 3.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: October 19, 2021 9:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws/Fusion/ZoomText beta 3 is out

 

I’ll let someone else, like Mike, put up the details, but my beta 2 version just informed me that beta 3 is available.

JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Public Beta (freedomscientific.com)

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 


moderated Jaws/Fusion/ZoomText beta 3 is out

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I’ll let someone else, like Mike, put up the details, but my beta 2 version just informed me that beta 3 is available.

JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Public Beta (freedomscientific.com)

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 


moderated Re: question about activating links in a Word document

Steve Nutt
 

No, Control+Enter will insert a page break.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B.
McDonald
Sent: 16 October 2021 15:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: question about activating links in a Word document

I seem to recollect that Control+Enter activates a link. I think you must
have your cursor on the link. And, there may be an option within Word's
settings to enable this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question about activating links in a Word document

Hi all,
Not sure if this would be a Jaws or Word question so that's why I'm posting
this on hear.
When I have a Word document with links in it whether that be email addresses
or web addresses is there any way to have them open when I enter on them?
Right now when I try and do this the only thing that happens is that a blank
line gets placed in the document. If there isn't then that's fine I'm simply
curious that's all. Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows
10. Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated as always!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: Remote Desktop

Steve Nutt
 

It’s Control Alt Break.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: 13 October 2021 20:49
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop

 

I am going from memory, I believe the key combination is

Ctrl plus Alta plus either break or page up.

 

Thanks,abraham 



On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@...> wrote:



Hi, I thought that when in Remote Desktop you could lock the input Window by using Control+Shift+ the Break key.

That is not obviously the correct key. I cannot find it in the Remote Access help section so I’m now asking nicely if anyone can help me out.


moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Brian,

 

I also make sure that all my personal files are never on Drive C:. I never back up Windows installations or apps, because resetting Windows is very accessible nowadays, with Narrrator.

 

I’d sooner restore Windows, then reinstall my apps.

 

Just personal, but I have never had to restore a system image.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 13 October 2021 16:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

 

I absolutely hate, "What is the best . . .," questions about anything because best is really very subjective.

Macrium Reflect is a very good tool, its free version is more than adequate for any home user (and many small business users, thought they cannot use it under the license terms), and I wrote a tutorial about using it with a screen reader:  Using Macrium Reflect Free with a Screen Reader

 


There are very precious few backup and recovery options that are accessible on the recovery side, and those I know about are paid.  I don't even worry about the recovery side as very few people DIY the recovery.  But because the recovery virtually always is in an environment that is not Windows, there's no screen reader support for it, much like there is not for UEFI/BIOS.

But having a backup for anyone to recover from, including yourself with sighted assistance if the need arises, is vastly preferable to losing everything or having to pay hundreds of dollars, minimum, to send a failed HDD out to a data recovery facility.  And at this time recovery fees for SSDs is at least double to triple what it costs to recover a HDD.
--

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It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: JFW and iTunes

Cornelius
 

I do not know that you could sync music directly to the music app using dropbox or OneDrive. On Dropbox though you have to play the music  on the Dropbox app. Even if you can sync to the music app, you will need ways to delete them if the music is no longer required.
There are still certain tasks like backing up the entire phone which cannot be done without iTune unless one is willing to pay for iCloud storage.

From: Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 10:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTunes
 
iTunes on the Mac has been gone for one or two years now.  The iDevicce interacts with Finder and shows up like a external drive.
You can completely manage apps on the device without the need for iTunes and if you use either One Drive or DropBox you can access music files and pull them into the Music app.
I have no idea if Apple plans on pulling iTunes all together, but I can’t imagine that they are going to continue to pour money into an application that solely runs on Windows.
What tasks do you directly need iTunes for today?
Regards,
 
Jim Weiss
jimweiss72@...
 
 

On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Alan Robbins <arobbins1057@...> wrote:
 
Hello,
 
Not sure on this. I did read on a list or web somewhere that Apple was considering discontinuing iTunes in the future? Can anyone validate this? If true they would need to fix the iPhone somehow to allow items to be put on and taken off.
 
Alan
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 8:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Yes, but just want to know that JFW has no plan to improve its usability with iTune just like how they did with other app?
 
 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
That's why one has a choice, just as with browsers there might be times when NVDA works better for a particular task than Jaws and vice versa.
 
 
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>On Behalf Of Cornelius
Sent: October 16, 2021 7:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
 
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt.  

CH

On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH

On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 
 
 

 


moderated Auto-adding mails in Gmail Basic View

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

In Gmail basic view, I have to manually enter an email address each
time I compose a new message. Is there a way to ensure that I only
have to type part of the address, and then get a suggestion, based on
email IDs I have sent mails to in the past, that I can select?

Warmly,
Rahul




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moderated JAWS Codes

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Hey everybody!
I remember when Chris Smart showed the JAWS list a code to make JAWS sing? I wonder if that same code can help with inflections like, how you say, hyphenated words spoken with primary stress on the first part, for example, mother-in-law, where the "in law" part is spoken in a kind of monotone fashion. What codes would I type for this to take effect?


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

They are there, but you have to have the PBS Passport which you get by donating on a regular basis.
And, I would hope they would include audio description.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
  




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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 18, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Dan Yates <danneyyates@...> wrote:



In the app store, download PBS Video app and look under Ken Burns, all his stuff’s there

HTH

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

I would appreciate it. . Jim 


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

Dan Yates
 

In the app store, download PBS Video app and look under Ken Burns, all his stuff’s there

HTH

Dan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 7:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

I would appreciate it. . Jim 


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

The page below looks to currently have the shows called inning 1, Inning 2 and Inning 8 from the Ken Burns series with audio description.

You could write him and see if he is planning to upload the rest.  I copied his page info from my web site under the audio description resources section.

 

Jeff Rutkowski is someone who has provided a lot of movies and TV shows audio files for live streaming or downloading. Here is the first paragraph from his web site followed by the link.
Welcome to my described movies page. To listen to any of these movies, simply click on or press enter on the link. If you wish to download them, access your applications menu and select the "save link as" or "Save target as" option. Please note: I try to make sure that all links listed on this page work, and few to no duplicated movies exist but, I may have missed a few here and there. If you find duplicate links or links that lead to a non-working movie, feel free to contact me at jrutkowski7@...

 

 Jeff Rutkowski's Described Movie's page

https://jeff.tdrealms.com/Described_Movies.md

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

 

I would appreciate it. . Jim 


moderated Re: I am looking for ken burns baseball. does anyone have it please, at least the audio of it?

crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
 

Wow. I haven’t seen that for a long time. I would love to find it again. Time to do some searching. 


On Oct 18, 2021, at 19:37, Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...> wrote:

I would appreciate it. . Jim  

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