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Re: PC Problem
JM Casey
Hey Michael…
This may not be a permanent solution for you, but I wonder if it’ll work. I personally like these kidns o commands and their decisive nature and quick results, but you may prefer to shutdown throught eh gui. Try this. Make sure everything you need is saved before this because you will get no warning. Open the run dialogue box with windows key + r Type in the following, without quotes: “shutdown /s /f /t 0” Your machine should shut down almost instantly. If it doesn’t, yaeh, something is definitely amiss.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: October 17, 2021 12:53 AM To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io Subject: PC Problem
Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer, it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update. Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. Thanks Best regards Michael H. munn
Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind
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Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Bill White
Hi again, Barbara. Since ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow is not a toggle command, it should always turn your screen right side up. If the screen is already right side up, ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow won't change your screen at all.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 1:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Thanks – I always forget about the pass through keystroke
I did it and now will have the next person who walks in my door look at it and see if I am still sideways!
Barbara
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Barbara. Before attempting to press ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, try pressing the "passthrough" command in JAWS, which is JAWS key plus three on the numbers row, not the NumPad. Then after pressing the passthrough command, then try ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, and see if your screen rotates right-side up.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Chris
You should be able to rotate the screen from the graphics options context menu on the desktop
From: Barbara Black
Sent: 17 October 2021 21:03 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Barbara Black
Thanks – I always forget about the pass through keystroke
I did it and now will have the next person who walks in my door look at it and see if I am still sideways!
Barbara
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 4:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Hi, Barbara. Before attempting to press ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, try pressing the "passthrough" command in JAWS, which is JAWS key plus three on the numbers row, not the NumPad. Then after pressing the passthrough command, then try ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, and see if your screen rotates right-side up.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
JM Casey
Heya.
You can press jaws key + 3 to pass the next key through to whatever application. This will make jaws ignore whatever you type net.
That said, what kind of device are you using? Usually on a pC monitor, landscape is what you want; portrait is mostly for mobile devices.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: October 17, 2021 04:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Bill White
Hi, Barbara. Before attempting to press ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, try pressing the "passthrough" command in JAWS, which is JAWS key plus three on the numbers row, not the NumPad. Then after pressing the passthrough command, then try ALT plus CONTROL plus Up Arrow, and see if your screen rotates right-side up.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 1:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: Issue regarding VLC media player.
JM Casey
Those don’t sound like the right keystrokes to me. Alt-m should open the media menu. There is a pretty comprehensive list of keyboard commands at video lan…go there and check it out, or just do a google search.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: October 17, 2021 09:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Issue regarding VLC media player.
Good morning everyone,
Just wanted all of you too know, that I was able too start playing the ACB New York state convention Stream with VLC media player. Now, I have some questions regarding there options. The shortcut options say that if you want too raise the volume, you should press the alt I key. If you want too lower it says that you should hit the alt key E. and too mute the playing of the particular stream that you are listening too, hit the alt key M key. I do have audio ducting enable using Jaws 2021 latest version, and am running windows 10. Could this be causing any of those combinations keys that I listed above, be the cause of the problem that I’m having? Or should I call the Microsoft disability answer desk, too uninstall my current version of VLC media player, and install it again? The thing is, I can’t even get any new updates that might be available.
Any help or advice about this ongoing issue would be very much appreciated.
Al However when I’m trying too hit any of these combinations keys, I can’t raise the volume, or hit the key combination M key too mute a media stream, none of them seem too work
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rotating screen (mine ended up sideways)
Barbara Black
Hi- Periodically I mistakenly hit some combination of keystrokes that turns my screen sideways (landscape). When I searched for keystroke to change it to portrait, what I got was alt-ctrl-arrow – but the problem is that is a JAWS command for tables and when I do it, JAWS keeps telling me that I am not in a table (which I obviously know.
Any suggestions? Having a sideways screen is a problem when I am on a Zoom and also when I ask someone to help me with something on my computer.
Thanks, Barbara
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Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS
Jason White
On 17/10/21 13:10, Richard Turner wrote:
Arrowing up through all the notes also works to get to the place to continue typing, but I will experiment with control+home Control+end.When you're in the footnote text, there's an option in the context menu to "go to footnote". It takes you to the point in the main text where the footnote mark appears. This is the quick way to return to where you were when you inserted the note.
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Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS
Ann Byrne
Alt+s, then f to add additional footnotes. Goto dialog to move between text and footnotes. Draft view in order to read everything with JAWS.
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At 09:53 AM 10/17/2021, you wrote:
Hello Takis,
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Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
dennis
the voice is good. i would say it
speaks 98 percent of everything on the phone. the things it
doesn't speak are some menues. those are ones i don't usually have
to access though. when texting the speach is a little slow. mind
you this phone is one i got in 2016. so i don't know if there is a
newer version of this phone that might be better. it talks right
out of the box though and i love the battery power i get. remember
though it's a 5 year old phone. also it's only 3g so you only get
talk and text on it which is all i am interested in anyway. hope
this helps you.
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On 10/17/2021 12:34 PM, Glenn / Lenny
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Re: PC Problem
Glenn / Lenny
Have you updated it recently, and ran a full scan?
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Sometimes malware will turn it off and you may not be aware that it is turned off. Microsoft has some off-line scanners for download as well. Glenn
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From: "Michael Munn " <michaelrbms@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 1:20 PM Subject: Re: PC Problem I don't have any advanced malware scanning software and I usually use Windows defender to scan my computer for viruses. Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students, National Federation of Georgia http://nfbga.org Member National Association of Blind Students, National Federation of the Blind http://nfb.org Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind http://hadley.edu On Oct 17, 2021, at 01:56, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:
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Re: PC Problem
Michael Munn
I don't have any advanced malware scanning software and I usually use Windows defender to scan my computer for viruses.
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Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students, National Federation of Georgia http://nfbga.org Member National Association of Blind Students, National Federation of the Blind http://nfb.org Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind http://hadley.edu
On Oct 17, 2021, at 01:56, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:
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Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
Glenn / Lenny
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Hi Dennis,
How's the voice, and does it speak about
everything?
Thanks.
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Re: Issue regarding VLC media player.
Glenn / Lenny
The VLC that I use just uses up and down arrows for
volume, and left and right arrows for back and forth in the audio.
Glenn
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Re: Viber scripts
Milton Ota
Hi,
I know of no scripts for JAWS available for this antivirus software. It would help if you originally told us what version of HAWS you are running along with whether you are using Windows 7 or 10.
For me I’m running the public beta of JAWS 2022 and Windows 10 H1..
I’m not having any trouble accessing any of the controls that I need.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabahudin Tricic
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 8:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Viber scripts
Hello, Yes, those two software’s have similar spelling. What I need is JFW scripts for Viber. Viber is a messaging app, with voice and video calling capabilities. Mobil version is accessible and I am using it on my iphone. However, desktop version is not accessible at all. Software is very popular in Europe, and all of my friends are using it. Here is the url: Viber.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
I have Vipre and have not found any trouble navigating its screens. It was recommended by friends as the most accessible antivirus software for the desktop using a screen reader. So, what is your problem and how might I be able to help.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabahudin Tricic
Hello, Does anybody know where I can find JFW scripts for Viber desktop. I do not have problems using it on the Iphone, but desktop version is not accessible
Thanks .
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Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
When I did that, it messed me up.
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Obviously, I need to experiment more, but I know now what to do enough to get it working when/if needed. Arrowing up through all the notes also works to get to the place to continue typing, but I will experiment with control+home Control+end. Thanks again, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 8:55 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Just be aware that, if you have a whole bunch of notes, arrowing up will put you to the previous note, rather than the text, hence I follow the control-home then control-end to reach the last bit past the footnote and continue my work. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 6:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Takis, You are right. I was not following the steps exactly for adding the second or third footnote, etc. I thought I should use control+end to get passed what I had written, but that messes it up. Just up arrowing back to the text, and hitting enter to start a new paragraph, or just keeping on typing, allows the hotkey to work properly. Thank you. I don't know if I will need footnotes anytime soon, but I wanted to make sure I knew how to when the time comes that I want to use them. Thanks very much, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccfbfcba873774a7ae3e208d991866c35%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637700828787030041%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2Bds9Cpt04PhuQjli86SSwhgRcnKkcWWy8%2FC8GzbSTSs%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 8:16 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Hello Richard, Unfortunately, I have not encountered this issue, as to me the command creates consecutive footnotes, using office 365. I am always ready to help, if I can, Take care, Takis -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Hello Takis, I tried this, and control+alt+f only works for the first footnote. If I keep writing, and want to addd a second footnote, how is this done? I checked the Microsoft help, but it mentions the Review Tab and I didn't find anything on Footnotes there. Thanks, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner4%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccfbfcba873774a7ae3e208d991866c35%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637700828787030041%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FtYJP%2FmZCzWc%2Fl%2Bb7iZT6g8sNOi0R4Pk03lUviJKAos%3D&reserved=0 2.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C45a883d616044a6f90fc08d991810424%7C84df9e7fe9 f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637700805581556099%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8 eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&am p;sdata=HQIZzerrl2OZXaBpZ6Ehb5ChoZoyIpyXzrLRrwXgpd4%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Panagiotis Antonopoulos Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Hi Tom/all, Yes, word has a shortcut and it's all very useful, perhaps not as handy as that by the old wordperfect. When you type and want to insert a footnote, just press control-alt-f and it will open with the corresponding number. Once you have typed it, just arrow up if it is the first one and you will get yourself back to main text. My suggestion which works is to use alt-home, then alt-end which gets you back to where the note was inserted. If I want to look at a note I usually hit alt-shift-e and read it albeit in a way of preview, but it is quicker than the technique suggested to read it without having to speed that. Hope this helps, Takis -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 2:49 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Word, Footnotes and JAWS Hello, Does anyone know of a good but easy way of using Footnotes in Word with JAWS? I have to write a few things where I'll need to footnote or document my sources, like title and page number. I don't remember what that looks like from school. Does Word have an area you can use for footnotes, like you do for headers? Does it work using JAWS? Tom
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Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
Albert Cutolo
Good afternoon Richard and Maria,
Although I myself use the I-Phone, My girlfriend desires a phone with buttons and not a flat screen. I’m thinking of sur. prising her, by purchasing one of these phones for Christmas. As the old saying goes, too each his own
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Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
Maria Campbell
Some Blind people are not the only ones who like flip phones with buttons. My sighted husband prefers just such a phone. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 10/17/2021 12:11 PM, Richard B.
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Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
Richard B. McDonald
Recently, I bought the Blindshell Classic 2. I love it. You can see more about it on the maker’s website, below.
HTH, Richard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 4:37 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.
Hi Glenn,
Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone? If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at, AT guies.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page. I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones. Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones? BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader. Isn't that ironic?
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