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moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Angel
 

People have a rite to choose.  There are many reasons substantiating a persons choice.  I think this rite ought not to be abridged.  There is a long way between choice and necessity.  This is why it is fortunate there is now, and I hope in future, there will always be a fulfillment of the need for button driven phones.

 

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From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Well I think regarding physical limitations only, 99.9% of people can use a touch screen,

I could use one with my nose, my tongue, or even my toe if I had to.

So when folks say they cannot, it is not for physical reasons IMO.

But for me, I like the iPhone for apps, not for a phone.

I like the simplicity of a flip phone.

But if folks feel they cannot learn to use a touch screen, or just like me, prefer a flip phone, I get that.

But I find it hard to accept that some folks cannot use a touch screen, unless they have other disabilities other than physical.

But we are all different, and I look forward to always having options.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Angel

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:30 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

There might, also, be a difference between flip phones, and flip phones with buttons.  There are also people, as am I, who prefer to use phones with orthodox buttons, rather than those with touch screens.  Too often, we blind people, and otherwise challenged people, who forget there might be people who are unable, for whatever reason, to use touch screens.  Are such people second class citizens?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

That is if this the business run by Laz.

Maybe I'm wrong and Laz has nothing to do with AT Guys, and I was wrong, then if so, please excuse the mistake.

But I still would not buy a phone or other device made for the Blind when there are better options.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi,

I won't do business with those people.

Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.

Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 

 

 

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moderated Re: [Tech4theblind] PC Problem

Judy Jones
 

Hi, Michael,

I'm also guessing that your windows isn't trying to update before shutting down? When shutting down, at least in Windows 10, that can be an option.




Judy
sent from the Android BS6

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, October 16, 2021 09:53 PM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io;main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [Tech4theblind] PC Problem

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my
computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off
everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I
could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when
I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to
the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I
thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack.
After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and
the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and
the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it?
I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1
(OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.
Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.
Thanks
Best regards
Michael H. munn

[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>
Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia
www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>

Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind
www.nfb.org
Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu


moderated Re: Issue regarding VLC media player.

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Have you tried the Jaws passthrough key first?  Incase Jaws is trying to grab those keys before the program?

It is Insert+3 on the number row.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 6:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Issue regarding VLC media player.

 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Just wanted all of you too know, that I was able too start playing the ACB New York state convention  Stream with VLC media player.  Now, I have some questions regarding there options.  The shortcut options say that if you want too raise the volume, you should press the alt I key.   If you want too lower it says that you should hit the alt key E.  and too mute the playing of the particular stream that you are listening too, hit the alt key M key. I do have audio ducting enable using Jaws 2021 latest version, and am running windows 10.  Could  this be causing any of those combinations keys that I listed above, be the cause of the problem that I’m having?  Or should I call the Microsoft disability answer desk, too uninstall my current version of VLC media player, and install it again?  The thing is, I can’t even get any new updates that might be available. 

 

Any help or advice about this ongoing issue would be very much appreciated. 

 

Al  However when I’m trying too hit any of these combinations keys,  I can’t raise the volume, or hit the key combination M key too mute a media stream, none of them seem too work


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

dennis
 

i too prefer the orthodox phone. they are not easy to find. verizon only has 2 the last time i baught one. here is what i have.LG Revere® 3. good luck.


On 10/16/2021 11:30 PM, Angel wrote:

There might, also, be a difference between flip phones, and flip phones with buttons.  There are also people, as am I, who prefer to use phones with orthodox buttons, rather than those with touch screens.  Too often, we blind people, and otherwise challenged people, who forget there might be people who are unable, for whatever reason, to use touch screens.  Are such people second class citizens?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

That is if this the business run by Laz.

Maybe I'm wrong and Laz has nothing to do with AT Guys, and I was wrong, then if so, please excuse the mistake.

But I still would not buy a phone or other device made for the Blind when there are better options.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi,

I won't do business with those people.

Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.

Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 

 




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moderated Issue regarding VLC media player.

Albert Cutolo
 

Good morning everyone, 

 

Just wanted all of you too know, that I was able too start playing the ACB New York state convention  Stream with VLC media player.  Now, I have some questions regarding there options.  The shortcut options say that if you want too raise the volume, you should press the alt I key.   If you want too lower it says that you should hit the alt key E.  and too mute the playing of the particular stream that you are listening too, hit the alt key M key. I do have audio ducting enable using Jaws 2021 latest version, and am running windows 10.  Could  this be causing any of those combinations keys that I listed above, be the cause of the problem that I’m having?  Or should I call the Microsoft disability answer desk, too uninstall my current version of VLC media player, and install it again?  The thing is, I can’t even get any new updates that might be available. 

 

Any help or advice about this ongoing issue would be very much appreciated. 

 

Al  However when I’m trying too hit any of these combinations keys,  I can’t raise the volume, or hit the key combination M key too mute a media stream, none of them seem too work


moderated Re: Viber scripts

Sabahudin Tricic
 

Hello,

Yes, those two software’s have similar spelling.  What I need is JFW  scripts for Viber.  Viber is  a messaging app, with voice and video calling capabilities.  Mobil version is accessible and I am using it on my iphone. However, desktop version is not accessible  at all.

Software is very popular in Europe, and all of my friends are using it.

Here is the url:

Viber.com

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 5:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Viber scripts

 

I have Vipre and have not found any trouble navigating its screens. It was recommended by friends as the most accessible antivirus software for the desktop using a screen reader. So, what is your problem and how might I be able to help.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabahudin Tricic
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 4:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Viber scripts

 

Hello,

Does anybody know where I can find JFW scripts for Viber desktop.

I do not have problems using it on the Iphone, but desktop version is not accessible

 

Thanks .

 

 


moderated Re: Viber scripts

Milton Ota
 

I have Vipre and have not found any trouble navigating its screens. It was recommended by friends as the most accessible antivirus software for the desktop using a screen reader. So, what is your problem and how might I be able to help.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabahudin Tricic
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 4:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Viber scripts

 

Hello,

Does anybody know where I can find JFW scripts for Viber desktop.

I do not have problems using it on the Iphone, but desktop version is not accessible

 

Thanks .

 

 


moderated Re: PC Problem

Hareth
 

In this case try the last known fixes that I know.
1st, re install or repair the Adrenalin Software that specific to AMD
cpu's computers.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/rsx-install
If it didn't work, look in device manager for any Intel devices E.G
wireless card ETC
If there are any, download the latest driver for them, and before the
upgrade uninstall the old ones. then install the newer.
And Try to uncheck the "let PC turn off this device to save power"
feature in devices one by one to see if one of them is the culprit.
TC

On 10/17/21, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot and greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately my computer use AMD as
it's processor.

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students, National Federation of
Georgia
http://nfbga.org
Member National Association of Blind Students, National Federation of the
Blind
http://nfb.org
Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind
http://hadley.edu

On Oct 17, 2021, at 01:27, Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
If your computer contains it, this might work,
Go to Device Manager.
Find System Devices then Intel Management Engine Interface.
open its properties. then on Power Management tab.
Uncheck "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.  then
tab to Ok and press it.
Also if you have an external device plugged in E.G USB stuff or mouse
ETC, unplugg them before shutting down.
TC

On 10/17/21, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
Everything is normal with in my Power settings and Fast Startup is
turned
off last time I checked.




[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of
the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu


On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:53 AM michael H. Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on
my
computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off
everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything
I
could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime
when
I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next
to
the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem
I
thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the
backpack.
After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop
and
the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan
and
the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix
it?
I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10
21H1
(OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. munn



[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of
the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of
the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu












moderated Viber scripts

Sabahudin Tricic
 

Hello,

Does anybody know where I can find JFW scripts for Viber desktop.

I do not have problems using it on the Iphone, but desktop version is not accessible

Thanks .

 

 


moderated Re: Word, Footnotes and JAWS

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Tom/all,
Yes, word has a shortcut and it's all very useful, perhaps not as handy as that by the old wordperfect. When you type and want to insert a footnote, just press control-alt-f and it will open with the corresponding number. Once you have typed it, just arrow up if it is the first one and you will get yourself back to main text. My suggestion which works is to use alt-home, then alt-end which gets you back to where the note was inserted. If I want to look at a note I usually hit alt-shift-e and read it albeit in a way of preview, but it is quicker than the technique suggested to read it without having to speed that.
Hope this helps,
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Cramer
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 2:49 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: Word, Footnotes and JAWS

Hello,
Does anyone know of a good but easy way of using Footnotes in Word with JAWS? I have to write a few things where I'll need to footnote or document my sources, like title and page number.
I don't remember what that looks like from school. Does Word have an area you can use for footnotes, like you do for headers? Does it work using JAWS?
Tom


moderated Re: PC Problem

Glenn / Lenny
 

Driver issues are often a problem with difficulty shutting down.
The fan spinning up makes me consider malware.
Have you done a thorough scan for malware, and have you installed anything recently?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Munn " <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: PC Problem


Thanks a lot and greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately my computer use AMD as it's processor.

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students, National Federation of Georgia
http://nfbga.org
Member National Association of Blind Students, National Federation of the Blind
http://nfb.org
Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind
http://hadley.edu

On Oct 17, 2021, at 01:27, Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
If your computer contains it, this might work,
Go to Device Manager.
Find System Devices then Intel Management Engine Interface.
open its properties. then on Power Management tab.
Uncheck "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.  then
tab to Ok and press it.
Also if you have an external device plugged in E.G USB stuff or mouse
ETC, unplugg them before shutting down.
TC

On 10/17/21, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
Everything is normal with in my Power settings and Fast Startup is turned
off last time I checked.




[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu


On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:53 AM michael H. Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my
computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off
everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I
could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime
when
I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to
the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I
thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack.
After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and
the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and
the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it?
I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10
21H1
(OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. munn



[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu








moderated Re: PC Problem

Michael Munn
 

Thanks a lot and greatly appreciate it. Unfortunately my computer use AMD as it's processor.

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students, National Federation of Georgia
http://nfbga.org
Member National Association of Blind Students, National Federation of the Blind
http://nfb.org
Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind
http://hadley.edu

On Oct 17, 2021, at 01:27, Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
If your computer contains it, this might work,
Go to Device Manager.
Find System Devices then Intel Management Engine Interface.
open its properties. then on Power Management tab.
Uncheck "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.  then
tab to Ok and press it.
Also if you have an external device plugged in E.G USB stuff or mouse
ETC, unplugg them before shutting down.
TC

On 10/17/21, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
Everything is normal with in my Power settings and Fast Startup is turned
off last time I checked.




[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu


On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:53 AM michael H. Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my
computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off
everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I
could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime
when
I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to
the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I
thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack.
After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and
the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and
the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it?
I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10
21H1
(OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. munn



[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu








moderated Re: PC Problem

Hareth
 

Hi,
If your computer contains it, this might work,
Go to Device Manager.
Find System Devices then Intel Management Engine Interface.
open its properties. then on Power Management tab.
Uncheck "Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.  then
tab to Ok and press it.
Also if you have an external device plugged in E.G USB stuff or mouse
ETC, unplugg them before shutting down.
TC

On 10/17/21, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
Everything is normal with in my Power settings and Fast Startup is turned
off last time I checked.




[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu


On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:53 AM michael H. Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my
computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off
everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I
could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime
when
I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to
the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I
thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack.
After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and
the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and
the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it?
I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10
21H1
(OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. munn



[image: JAWS Certified, 2019]
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Certification>

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org <http://www.nfbv.org>


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the
Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind

www.hadley.edu





moderated Word, Footnotes and JAWS

Tom Cramer
 

Hello,
Does anyone know of a good but easy way of using Footnotes in Word
with JAWS? I have to write a few things where I'll need to footnote or
document my sources, like title
and page number.
I don't remember what that looks like from school. Does Word have an
area you can use for footnotes, like you do for headers? Does it work
using JAWS?
Tom


moderated Re: PC Problem

Michael Munn
 

Everything is normal with in my Power settings and Fast Startup is turned off last time I checked. 




JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 12:53 AM michael H. Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:
Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 



JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


moderated Re: PC Problem

Bill White
 

In my last message, I was unclear. They recommend that Fast Startup be turned off. When it is on, this can interfere with all components shutting down.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:53 PM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: PC Problem

 

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  

it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 

Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 

 

 

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Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

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Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

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moderated Re: PC Problem

John Covici
 

Can you shut off your computer by holding down the power button for
several seconds? Also, can you check your power settings to see if
something has changed?

On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 00:56:10 -0400,
Glenn / Lenny wrote:

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I would suggest either a driver issue, or malware.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Munn
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io ; main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:53 PM
Subject: PC Problem


Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down. I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out.
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.
Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not.

Thanks

Best regards

Michael H. munn









Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia

www.nfbga.org




Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind

www.nfb.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind


www.hadley.edu







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moderated Re: PC Problem

Bill White
 

Hi, Michael. In Control>Power Options>Choose What The Power Buttons Do>Change Settings That Are Currently Unavailable, do you have Fast Startup turned off? Sometimes this can interfere with all components shutting down.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:53 PM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: PC Problem

 

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  

it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 

Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 

 

 

Error! Filename not specified.

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org

 

Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


moderated Re: PC Problem

Glenn / Lenny
 


I would suggest either a driver issue, or malware.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:53 PM
Subject: PC Problem

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 



JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


moderated PC Problem

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 



JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu

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