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moderated Re: PC Problem

Bill White
 

Hi, Michael. In Control>Power Options>Choose What The Power Buttons Do>Change Settings That Are Currently Unavailable, do you have Fast Startup turned off? Sometimes this can interfere with all components shutting down.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:53 PM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: PC Problem

 

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  

it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 

Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 

 

 

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moderated Re: PC Problem

Glenn / Lenny
 


I would suggest either a driver issue, or malware.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:53 PM
Subject: PC Problem

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 



JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


moderated PC Problem

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, I'm sending this email out because I experienced a problem on my computer. The problem that I have is that my computer won't turn off everytime when I use the normal way to shut it down.  I did everything I could to solve this problem but in the end, it was useless. Everytime when I attempt to shut down the computer,  
it says shutting down on the screen but the fan and the LED light next to the power button still remain on. When I first experienced this problem I thought that I packed my laptop with the switch facing down the backpack. After I realized this, I immediately corrected how I packed my laptop and the problem still existed. The laptop will get very hot from the fan and the fan will remain running until the computer battery drains out. 
Have you all experienced this problem before? If so, how did you fix it? I'm using an HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-ds0xxxs laptop with Windows10 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1237 and Jaws 2021 latest update.   

Please let me know if there is a way to solve this or not. 

Thanks  

Best regards 

Michael H. munn 



JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia  

www.nfbga.org


Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind 

www.nfb.org

  Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Glenn / Lenny
 


Well I think regarding physical limitations only, 99.9% of people can use a touch screen,
I could use one with my nose, my tongue, or even my toe if I had to.
So when folks say they cannot, it is not for physical reasons IMO.
But for me, I like the iPhone for apps, not for a phone.
I like the simplicity of a flip phone.
But if folks feel they cannot learn to use a touch screen, or just like me, prefer a flip phone, I get that.
But I find it hard to accept that some folks cannot use a touch screen, unless they have other disabilities other than physical.
But we are all different, and I look forward to always having options.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Angel
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

There might, also, be a difference between flip phones, and flip phones with buttons.  There are also people, as am I, who prefer to use phones with orthodox buttons, rather than those with touch screens.  Too often, we blind people, and otherwise challenged people, who forget there might be people who are unable, for whatever reason, to use touch screens.  Are such people second class citizens?

 

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From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

That is if this the business run by Laz.

Maybe I'm wrong and Laz has nothing to do with AT Guys, and I was wrong, then if so, please excuse the mistake.

But I still would not buy a phone or other device made for the Blind when there are better options.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi,

I won't do business with those people.

Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.

Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 

 




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moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Angel
 

There might, also, be a difference between flip phones, and flip phones with buttons.  There are also people, as am I, who prefer to use phones with orthodox buttons, rather than those with touch screens.  Too often, we blind people, and otherwise challenged people, who forget there might be people who are unable, for whatever reason, to use touch screens.  Are such people second class citizens?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

That is if this the business run by Laz.

Maybe I'm wrong and Laz has nothing to do with AT Guys, and I was wrong, then if so, please excuse the mistake.

But I still would not buy a phone or other device made for the Blind when there are better options.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi,

I won't do business with those people.

Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.

Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 

 




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moderated Re: JFW and iTune

Cornelius
 

 
Also it seems that NVDA navigates more smoothly in iTunes if compared with JAWS. I tried backing up my iPhone using JAWS on iTunes and it is not as smooth tabbing around the menu compared to if using NVDA.
 
 

From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 9:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH


On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH


On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 



moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Glenn / Lenny
 

That is if this the business run by Laz.
Maybe I'm wrong and Laz has nothing to do with AT Guys, and I was wrong, then if so, please excuse the mistake.
But I still would not buy a phone or other device made for the Blind when there are better options.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Hi,
I won't do business with those people.
Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.
Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Glenn / Lenny
 

Thanks, I was using FF, maybe Edge will work better.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

I found the same issue on my Mac with Safari, but was able to use the accessible page with Firefox. So, perhaps changing browsers will help. 


On Oct 16, 2021, at 19:33, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.
I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.
Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?
BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.
Isn't that ironic?
 


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi,
I won't do business with those people.
Also, I believe that is that over priced under-powered phone, that is marketed to the Blind, and like all other specialty products for the Blind, it uses out-dated technology at a premium price.
Thank you for responding though, I do appreciate all information that I can look into for a new phone.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I found the same issue on my Mac with Safari, but was able to use the accessible page with Firefox. So, perhaps changing browsers will help. 


On Oct 16, 2021, at 19:33, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.
I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.
Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?
BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.
Isn't that ironic?
 


moderated Re: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Albert Cutolo
 

Hi Glenn, 

 

Have you considered the blind shell classic 2 phone?  If you want more information about this particular phone, Call the people at,  AT guies.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.

I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.

Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?

BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.

Isn't that ironic?

 


moderated OT, More On finding an accessible flip phone.

Glenn / Lenny
 

I haven't tried the page with NVDA, but I just tried to read Verizon's page of accessible phones, and it constantly brings up a chat window for chatting with a sales person, and I'm just trying to read the page.
I cannot even go back, I can only close that tab and re-open it, and I can't get more than a line read about their phones.
Anyone have recommendations on talking flip phones?
BTW, finally, when I was put into a chat window I didn't like, I took that opportunity to type in a complaint about their page with a screenreader.
Isn't that ironic?
 


moderated Re: Question about how too clear out the catch using the google chrome browser?

Bill White
 

Hi, Albert, It's always been and is now, CONTROL plus SHIFT plus DELETE, while in Chrome. Just let the page open, and clear Browsing data, and all else you want cleared.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Cutolo
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 3:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about how too clear out the catch using the google chrome browser?

 

Good evening everyone, 

 

I’m writing the following message, too ask if anyone has noticed that it seems that the google chrome browser has made a change as too how too clear out the catch and other options that you might want too clear out as well.  Is there a different way that I can be able too access those options using other keystrokes or commands?

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Al  


moderated Question about how too clear out the catch using the google chrome browser?

Albert Cutolo
 

Good evening everyone, 

 

I’m writing the following message, too ask if anyone has noticed that it seems that the google chrome browser has made a change as too how too clear out the catch and other options that you might want too clear out as well.  Is there a different way that I can be able too access those options using other keystrokes or commands?

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Al  


moderated OT Flip Phone

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi, since this is OT, please respond just to me instead of the list if you can.
I have a Kyrosera flip phone, and I want to get a new flip phone.
I'm using Verizon, but I may switch if Verizon does not have a good phone.
The voice on mine sucks and it makes it hard to use.
Thanks for any recommendations.
Glenn


moderated Re: question about activating links in a Word document

Curtis Chong
 

My strategy is to activate the context menu on the link with shift+f10 and then arrow down to open link. Then, I press Enter. This works every time.



Kind regards,

Curtis Chong

On Oct 16, 2021, at 8:06 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

I seem to recollect that Control+Enter activates a link. I think you must
have your cursor on the link. And, there may be an option within Word's
settings to enable this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question about activating links in a Word document

Hi all,
Not sure if this would be a Jaws or Word question so that's why I'm posting
this on hear.
When I have a Word document with links in it whether that be email addresses
or web addresses is there any way to have them open when I enter on them?
Right now when I try and do this the only thing that happens is that a blank
line gets placed in the document. If there isn't then that's fine I'm simply
curious that's all. Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows
10. Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated as always!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: question about activating links in a Word document

Richard B. McDonald
 

I seem to recollect that Control+Enter activates a link. I think you must
have your cursor on the link. And, there may be an option within Word's
settings to enable this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question about activating links in a Word document

Hi all,
Not sure if this would be a Jaws or Word question so that's why I'm posting
this on hear.
When I have a Word document with links in it whether that be email addresses
or web addresses is there any way to have them open when I enter on them?
Right now when I try and do this the only thing that happens is that a blank
line gets placed in the document. If there isn't then that's fine I'm simply
curious that's all. Using latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows
10. Any help/suggestions are greatly appreciated as always!! Thanks Madison


moderated Re: JFW and iTune

Chris Hill
 

Well, it is now.  I tried it with nvda, and the menus no longer come up with just alt. 

CH


On 10/16/2021 07:52, Cornelius wrote:
 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 
From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH


On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 



moderated Re: JFW and iTune

Cornelius
 

 
Hi Chris, that doesn’t seem to be the problem in a few versions back. We can press alt and use the left/right arrow to find the desire menu.
 
 
 

From: Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2021 8:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and iTune
 
Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH


On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 


moderated Re: JFW and iTune

Chris Hill
 

Hello.


That isn't jaws problem to fix.  Alt does not bring up the menu in itunes.  If you want the menu, hold alt and press one of the first letter options like f.  You can then arrow down through the file menu, or arrow over to whatever menu you want.

CH


On 10/16/2021 05:23, Cornelius wrote:
Hi all,
Any  JFW users have the problem of JAWS not announcing the menu in iTune? For example if you press alt key and then the left or right arrow, JAWS will not say file or accounts etc.
I notice this has been happening for quite sometime and there seems to be no fix for it in the 2021 update of JAWS.
 

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