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moderated Re: Outlook365?

Leo
 

OK, good to know.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Hi Leo,
Thunderbird got better now accessibility wise, and the easy way to navigate through settings is to press insert plus Z after opening the settings tab, and pressing enter when jaws says "list in the beginning of the settings page.
TC
On 10/14/21, Leo <literophilus@myself.com> wrote:
Hi Hareth, I agree with you on the fact that TB is accessible for
screen reader users. However, some users have a hard time trying to
navigate through the settings and preferences. At least I can tell you
from my own experience that this was a pretty common trouble for some
folks although I don't know if this still the case because I changed to Outlook a year ago.
Indeed, Outlook has amazingly customizable features, but the learning
curve for new users is longer than TB.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Thunderbird is near fully accessible with jaws.
I don't know how do you and some others flatly say "not accessible"
about an app that had been used for years by many of us, and
accessible ones for that matter.
BTW, thunderbird's menus by far easier to use than those in current
outlook.

On 10/14/21, Billy Inglis <billyinglis49@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Leo, thanks for the Information. I will indeed give 3 6 5 a try.
Thunderbird is not really accessible at all, Billy

From: Leo
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You
basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of
apps, included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty
sure Microsoft gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my
experience that the most difficult part to use Outlook is probably
the learning curve if you have never used it before. There are many
personal settings that I would not like to loose, but I tell you, I
will probably never come back to Thunderbird.



Best,

Leo Bado.



"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?



hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?,
Billy



From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?



Hello:



Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very
few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.



Curtis



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?



hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


















moderated Re: Outlook365?

Hareth
 

Hi Leo,
Thunderbird got better now accessibility wise, and the easy way to
navigate through settings is to press insert plus Z after opening the
settings tab, and pressing enter when jaws says "list in the beginning
of the settings page.
TC

On 10/14/21, Leo <literophilus@myself.com> wrote:
Hi Hareth, I agree with you on the fact that TB is accessible for screen
reader users. However, some users have a hard time trying to navigate
through the settings and preferences. At least I can tell you from my own
experience that this was a pretty common trouble for some folks although I
don't know if this still the case because I changed to Outlook a year ago.
Indeed, Outlook has amazingly customizable features, but the learning curve
for new users is longer than TB.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Thunderbird is near fully accessible with jaws.
I don't know how do you and some others flatly say "not accessible"
about an app that had been used for years by many of us, and accessible ones
for that matter.
BTW, thunderbird's menus by far easier to use than those in current
outlook.

On 10/14/21, Billy Inglis <billyinglis49@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Leo, thanks for the Information. I will indeed give 3 6 5 a try.
Thunderbird is not really accessible at all, Billy

From: Leo
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You
basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of apps,
included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty sure
Microsoft gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my
experience that the most difficult part to use Outlook is probably the
learning curve if you have never used it before. There are many
personal settings that I would not like to loose, but I tell you, I will
probably never come back to Thunderbird.



Best,

Leo Bado.



"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?



hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?,
Billy



From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?



Hello:



Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very
few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.



Curtis



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?



hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


















moderated Re: Outlook365?

Leo
 

Hi Hareth, I agree with you on the fact that TB is accessible for screen reader users. However, some users have a hard time trying to navigate through the settings and preferences. At least I can tell you from my own experience that this was a pretty common trouble for some folks although I don't know if this still the case because I changed to Outlook a year ago. Indeed, Outlook has amazingly customizable features, but the learning curve for new users is longer than TB.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Thunderbird is near fully accessible with jaws.
I don't know how do you and some others flatly say "not accessible"
about an app that had been used for years by many of us, and accessible ones for that matter.
BTW, thunderbird's menus by far easier to use than those in current outlook.

On 10/14/21, Billy Inglis <billyinglis49@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Leo, thanks for the Information. I will indeed give 3 6 5 a try.
Thunderbird is not really accessible at all, Billy

From: Leo
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You
basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of apps,
included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty sure
Microsoft gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my
experience that the most difficult part to use Outlook is probably the
learning curve if you have never used it before. There are many
personal settings that I would not like to loose, but I tell you, I will probably never come back to Thunderbird.



Best,

Leo Bado.



"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?



hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?,
Billy



From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?



Hello:



Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very
few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.



Curtis



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy
Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?



hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy








moderated Re: Outlook365?

Hareth
 

Thunderbird is near fully accessible with jaws.
I don't know how do you and some others flatly say "not accessible"
about an app that had been used for years by many of us, and
accessible ones for that matter.
BTW, thunderbird's menus by far easier to use than those in current outlook.

On 10/14/21, Billy Inglis <billyinglis49@gmail.com> wrote:
hi Leo, thanks for the Information. I will indeed give 3 6 5 a try.
Thunderbird is not really accessible at all, Billy

From: Leo
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You
basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of apps,
included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty sure Microsoft
gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my experience that the most
difficult part to use Outlook is probably the learning curve if you have
never used it before. There are many personal settings that I would not like
to loose, but I tell you, I will probably never come back to Thunderbird.



Best,

Leo Bado.



"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not."
Paul Auster. "City of Glass"



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?



hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?, Billy



From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?



Hello:



Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few
things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.



Curtis



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?



hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy








moderated Re: accessible epub program

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

If he has FSReader installed with a copy of JAWS, he should be able to open a epub book/file. If the file is properly formatted with headings he should be able to navigate it like a web page.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accessible epub program

Hi,

A friend of mine, who is not on the list, is having a real problem obtaining a free accessible epub reader as can be seen below. Can anyone offer a solution or even a way of installing Adobe Digital while avoiding the Norton trial offer?


Following are some of the programs he has tried along with the results:

I have tried bookworm which would only extract with 7zip but running the installer triggers a security warning from windows 10 windows defender.
I have tried browser extension addons which are supposed to allow the user to read epub books but these did not seem to be accessible.

Another is Adobe Digital, the latest version, it comes bundled with a Norton trial offer. The norton installer window is not accessible which prevents adobe digital from fully installing unless you can click agree or no thank you in the norton trial window. Unfortunately the negative option can not be located.

Calab will convert between different ebook formats when used through the command line or bat files but can not be used through the g u i as it is totally inaccessible.

So does anyone know of an accessible free epub reader apart from those listed above or a way to get around the Nortons trial offer?

Thanks

I would also like to know of a free accessible Epub program.
Tom


moderated Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
 

And they obviously work because I chose low priority for this messag,e so thanks to everyone who responded.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY via groups.io
Sent: 14 October 2021 11:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?
Importance: Low

 

Really helpful; thank you.

I’d not seen these options before.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 22 September 2021 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

 

When you are composing a message press Alt + Enter and you get the message options, alternative the setting is in the

This is in Options > Message Options, the shortcut for that is Alt + P followed by O and P

You can also press the keyboard shortcut Alt + Enter after you have written your message which also brings up message options.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

 

I needed to send an urgent message yesterday and trawled through the menu options but just couldn’t find how to make the message “high priority“.

Alison


moderated Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
 

Really helpful; thank you.

I’d not seen these options before.

Alison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 22 September 2021 15:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

 

When you are composing a message press Alt + Enter and you get the message options, alternative the setting is in the

This is in Options > Message Options, the shortcut for that is Alt + P followed by O and P

You can also press the keyboard shortcut Alt + Enter after you have written your message which also brings up message options.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I enable high priority on an individual message?

 

I needed to send an urgent message yesterday and trawled through the menu options but just couldn’t find how to make the message “high priority“.

Alison


moderated accessible epub program

tom x
 

Hi,

A friend of mine, who is not on the list, is having a real problem obtaining a free accessible epub reader as can be seen below.  Can anyone offer a solution or even a way of installing Adobe Digital while avoiding the Norton trial offer?


Following are some of the programs he has tried along with the results:

I have tried bookworm which would only extract with 7zip but running the
installer triggers a security warning from windows 10 windows defender.
I have tried browser extension addons which are supposed to allow the user to read
epub books but these did not seem to be accessible.

Another is Adobe Digital, the latest version, it comes bundled with a Norton trial offer.  The norton installer window is not accessible which prevents adobe digital from
fully installing unless you can click agree or no thank you in the norton trial window. Unfortunately the negative option can not be located.

Calab will convert between different ebook formats when used through the command line or bat files but can not be used through the g u i as it is totally
inaccessible.

So does anyone know of an accessible free epub reader apart from those listed above or a way to get around the Nortons trial offer?

Thanks

I would also like to know of a free accessible Epub program.
Tom


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Billy Inglis
 

hi

Barbara, Good to know, Billy

 

 

 

From: Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?
 

Billy,

 

Outlook in 365 is just about identical to a copy downloaded into your computer.  For future reference, Outlook is one of the programs which is part of the Office 365 package.  Smile.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

hi Barbara, thanks for the feedback.

I do not use office products at the moment. I was most Interested in the Outlook Mail function, Billy

 

From: Barbara Sheinbein

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:46 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

It is accessible to a JAWS user.  There is a few differences, but if you are already familiar with Office, you should be just fine.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Billy Inglis
 

hi Leo, thanks for the Information. I will indeed give 3 6 5 a try.
Thunderbird is not really accessible at all, Billy
 

From: Leo
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?
 

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of apps, included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty sure Microsoft gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my experience that the most difficult part to use Outlook is probably the learning curve if you have never used it before. There are many personal settings that I would not like to loose, but I tell you, I  will probably never come back to Thunderbird.

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?, Billy

 

From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io

Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

Hello:

 

Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

Shankar.C
 

I can say that its a kind of co-incident.
Since yesterday, the basic html feature has back and i was also facing the same challenge and without signing out i was able to fix the issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

What a relief! As Soronel suggested the Sign out, sign in worked.
Basic HTML is back for me.
Thanks

On 10/14/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you do but I only have one account so can't check.

On 10/13/21, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see the "Set Basic HTML View as Default" option either. I
just see "Standard" and then "Learn More". Glad it's not just me.

You wrote: "To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button)."

If you have more than one account, do you need to bookmark each
account's Inbox separately when you change to the Basic HTML view to
have the mailbox's webpage open in Basic HTML?

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit
the basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when
I hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least
mostly made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page
after you have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani
Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the
Basic HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning.
Hopefully it stays that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as
the default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle
it on when I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the
"set Basic HTML as the default view" that I used to see before, and
it isn't under the Settings, either. (Sight dependent people seem
to like the Standard view better; when my husband needs to find
something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard view, and I'd find
it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not very JFW or
this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version. Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version. Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old
ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary
error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com










--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com


moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

turab chimthanawala
 

What a relief! As Soronel suggested the Sign out, sign in worked.
Basic HTML is back for me.
Thanks

On 10/14/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you do but I only have one account so can't check.

On 10/13/21, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see the "Set Basic HTML View as Default" option either. I just
see "Standard" and then "Learn More". Glad it's not just me.

You wrote: "To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button)."

If you have more than one account, do you need to bookmark each
account's Inbox separately when you change to the Basic HTML view to
have the mailbox's webpage open in Basic HTML?

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit the
basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least mostly
made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page after
you
have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the
Basic
HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning. Hopefully it
stays
that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as the
default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle it on
when
I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the "set Basic HTML
as
the
default view" that I used to see before, and it isn't under the
Settings,
either. (Sight dependent people seem to like the Standard view better;
when
my husband needs to find something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard
view, and I'd find it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not
very
JFW or this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version. Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version. Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old
ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary
error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com










--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com





--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com


moderated Re: Narrator braille driver still conflicts with all other braille drivers in Windows 11, but there is hope

Michael Hunsaker
 

I have been playing with fast switching for my students. Since Narrator uses Brltty directly as a Braille interface it blocks everything else. 

When done with the session, you need to hit windows+control+N, go into Braille settings, and turn off the switch for use Braille. Then the computer has be restarted in order for JAWS to load the Braille driver. 



On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 14:01 Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

Greetings,

 

If you use Narrator as a backup when Jaws flakes out on you for some reason, do not activate braille in Narrator unless you do not plan to use a braille display with Jaws.

 

Microsoft told me that they have moved this issue off the back burner and are putting some energy into fixing it, but no knowing when that might be.

 

Once you activate the Narrator braille driver, you have to figure out how to completely remove it to go back to using any braille display with Jaws.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

Soronel Haetir
 

I suspect you do but I only have one account so can't check.

On 10/13/21, Dani Pagador <pocketfulofspry@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see the "Set Basic HTML View as Default" option either. I just
see "Standard" and then "Learn More". Glad it's not just me.

You wrote: "To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button)."

If you have more than one account, do you need to bookmark each
account's Inbox separately when you change to the Basic HTML view to
have the mailbox's webpage open in Basic HTML?

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit the
basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least mostly
made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page after
you
have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the Basic
HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning. Hopefully it stays
that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as the
default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle it on
when
I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the "set Basic HTML as
the
default view" that I used to see before, and it isn't under the
Settings,
either. (Sight dependent people seem to like the Standard view better;
when
my husband needs to find something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard
view, and I'd find it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not
very
JFW or this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version. Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version. Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary
error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com









--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

Dani Pagador
 

I don't see the "Set Basic HTML View as Default" option either. I just
see "Standard" and then "Learn More". Glad it's not just me.

You wrote: "To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button)."

If you have more than one account, do you need to bookmark each
account's Inbox separately when you change to the Basic HTML view to
have the mailbox's webpage open in Basic HTML?

Thanks,
Dani

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit the
basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least mostly
made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page after you
have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the Basic
HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning. Hopefully it stays
that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as the
default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle it on
when
I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the "set Basic HTML as
the
default view" that I used to see before, and it isn't under the Settings,
either. (Sight dependent people seem to like the Standard view better;
when
my husband needs to find something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard
view, and I'd find it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not
very
JFW or this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version. Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version. Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com






--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com




















--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com






moderated Re: nfl live

Andy
 

This is not the official NFL Game Pass. This is a different app, and yes, the cost is $1.99.

As others have said, results with this app vary. There have been times when none of the links offered would play the game I was interested in, and sometimes i have had to listen to the opponent's feed, but it is well worth the money.

The NFL used to offer an audio pass at a reduced price, but this stopped a few years ago. The NBA used to also offer an audio only option at a low price, but this stopped last year, and if you want their product you have to pay full price even if you don't use the TV option.
Mr. Ho is fighting an uphill battle with the sports leagues, as they are putting the squeeze more and more on teams and their affiliated radio stations to not stream the games on their own.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: <michaelpbaity@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: nfl live


So I could stream any NFL game with NFL Gameday for just $1.99 total? Is this for a smart phone only or could I use an Amazon Dot or Victor Trek to listen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

I'm definitely going to give Game Day a try. If I could save $10 per month that would be great.
On 10/13/2021 1:58 PM, Andy wrote:
Last Sunday I listened to the 49ers/Cardinals game on both Tunein and
Game Day. I noticed that the audio quality on Game Day was far
superior to that on Tunein. I also noticed that the lag was less on
Game Day than on Tunein.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "aaron lane" <ajbd777@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: nfl live


I haven't experienced any lag with Tune In. Good idea Lee Anne, I've
tried that with my Echo, but it only plays stations from IHeart radio
and Tune In, and some of the stations are not on those services or
blocked out.


On 10/13/2021 11:23 AM, James English wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone else noticed a massive lag between the game happening and
tunein's coverage since they brought it back? I expect some lag but
this is around 15-20 minutes.
One website that works for most teams is free-sportsradio.com

On 10/13/21, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@att.net> wrote:
Hi,

What we do is find the call letters of the radio station who
carries the particular broadcast. We then have our smart speaker
play that station. It has worked for us for Chicago Bears and
Western Michigan Broncos.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

It sounds like Game Day Audio is a better deal if one just wants
Football.
I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

On 10/13/2021 9:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
TuneIn dropped the NFL and all professional sports in early 2020.
They brought it back this year at some point at the roughly $10
per month premium account.

I listen to NFL games on GameDay Audio for a one time cost of
$1.99. Yes, you have to try different stations, but for the games
I have wanted to hear this year, it has always worked.

He also has a College GameDay audio for $1.99 that allows
listening to College football at least, which is all the college
sports I want to hear.

I've used the GameDay football app for several years on that
one-time cost of $1.99.
I bought the college one last year when TuneiN stopped streaming
college games for free.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it." - Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron
lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Here's a link. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't steering you
wrong.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ft
unei

n.com%2Fpremium%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C05eea619d5974b3e129708d98
e519

061%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63769730322411553
7%7C

Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
Ik1h

aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=HttDQg%2B8r9KxUfLv2bWRCFgn5POg
qQpJ

cm1VcyDp9oo%3D&amp;reserved=0


On 10/13/2021 8:39 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
I thought tune in stopped doing that.

So I should resubscribe, then.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Not for free. I have the premium subscription on the Tune-In
radio App.
It's around $10, and I can listen to NFL games, as well as any
other sporting events that have radio broadcasts. When all I'm
doing is listening anyway, it's the cheapest option.


On 10/10/2021 5:34 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
Is there a way to catch the nfl live on internet, where I can
see any game I would like too?



Thanks,



Justin








































moderated Re: nfl live

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Well, all I know is it is available for iOS on Apple smart phones.
You will need to check the app store for other types of phones to find out if it is available.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
  




website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 13, 2021, at 4:00 PM, michaelpbaity@... wrote:

So I could stream any NFL game with NFL Gameday for just $1.99 total? Is this for a smart phone only or could I use an Amazon Dot or Victor Trek to listen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

I'm definitely going to give Game Day a try. If I could save $10 per month that would be great.
On 10/13/2021 1:58 PM, Andy wrote:
Last Sunday I listened to the 49ers/Cardinals game on both Tunein and
Game Day. I noticed that the audio quality on Game Day was far
superior to that on Tunein.  I also noticed that the lag was less on
Game Day than on Tunein.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "aaron lane" <ajbd777@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: nfl live


I haven't experienced any lag with Tune In. Good idea Lee Anne, I've
tried that with my Echo, but it only plays stations from IHeart radio
and Tune In, and some of the stations are not on those services or
blocked out.


On 10/13/2021 11:23 AM, James English wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone else noticed a massive lag between the game happening and
tunein's coverage since they brought it back? I expect some lag but
this is around 15-20 minutes.
One website that works for most teams is free-sportsradio.com

On 10/13/21, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:
Hi,

What we do is find the call letters of the radio station who
carries the particular broadcast.  We then have our smart speaker
play that station. It has worked for us for Chicago Bears and
Western Michigan Broncos.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

It sounds like Game Day Audio is a better deal if one just wants
Football.
I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

On 10/13/2021 9:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
TuneIn dropped the NFL and all professional sports in early 2020.
They brought it back this year at some point at the roughly $10
per month premium account.

I listen to NFL games on GameDay Audio for a one time cost of
$1.99. Yes, you have to try different stations, but for the games
I have wanted to hear this year, it has always worked.

He also has a College GameDay audio for $1.99 that allows
listening to College football at least, which is all the college
sports I want to hear.

I've used the GameDay football app for several years on that
one-time cost of $1.99.
I bought the college one last year when TuneiN stopped streaming
college games for free.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it." - Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C0469918418e24953797d08d98e9d44da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637697628381293998%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=OJkAKRoaftkJV5RC5btfqoY16fnZHSTG40DiGlpdgXk%3D&amp;reserved=0


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron
lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Here's a link. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't steering you
wrong.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ft
unei

n.com%2Fpremium%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C05eea619d5974b3e129708d98
e519

061%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63769730322411553
7%7C

Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
Ik1h

aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=HttDQg%2B8r9KxUfLv2bWRCFgn5POg
qQpJ

cm1VcyDp9oo%3D&amp;reserved=0


On 10/13/2021 8:39 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
I thought tune in stopped doing that.

So I should resubscribe, then.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Not for free. I have the premium subscription on the Tune-In
radio App.
It's around $10, and I can listen to NFL games, as well as any
other sporting events that have radio broadcasts. When all I'm
doing is listening anyway, it's the cheapest option.


On 10/10/2021 5:34 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
Is there a way to catch the nfl live on internet, where I can
see any game I would like too?



Thanks,



Justin
































































moderated Re: nfl live

michaelpbaity@...
 

So I could stream any NFL game with NFL Gameday for just $1.99 total? Is this for a smart phone only or could I use an Amazon Dot or Victor Trek to listen.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

I'm definitely going to give Game Day a try. If I could save $10 per month that would be great.
On 10/13/2021 1:58 PM, Andy wrote:
Last Sunday I listened to the 49ers/Cardinals game on both Tunein and
Game Day. I noticed that the audio quality on Game Day was far
superior to that on Tunein. I also noticed that the lag was less on
Game Day than on Tunein.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "aaron lane" <ajbd777@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: nfl live


I haven't experienced any lag with Tune In. Good idea Lee Anne, I've
tried that with my Echo, but it only plays stations from IHeart radio
and Tune In, and some of the stations are not on those services or
blocked out.


On 10/13/2021 11:23 AM, James English wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone else noticed a massive lag between the game happening and
tunein's coverage since they brought it back? I expect some lag but
this is around 15-20 minutes.
One website that works for most teams is free-sportsradio.com

On 10/13/21, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@att.net> wrote:
Hi,

What we do is find the call letters of the radio station who
carries the particular broadcast. We then have our smart speaker
play that station. It has worked for us for Chicago Bears and
Western Michigan Broncos.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

It sounds like Game Day Audio is a better deal if one just wants
Football.
I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

On 10/13/2021 9:53 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
TuneIn dropped the NFL and all professional sports in early 2020.
They brought it back this year at some point at the roughly $10
per month premium account.

I listen to NFL games on GameDay Audio for a one time cost of
$1.99. Yes, you have to try different stations, but for the games
I have wanted to hear this year, it has always worked.

He also has a College GameDay audio for $1.99 that allows
listening to College football at least, which is all the college
sports I want to hear.

I've used the GameDay football app for several years on that
one-time cost of $1.99.
I bought the college one last year when TuneiN stopped streaming
college games for free.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it." - Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of aaron
lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Here's a link. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't steering you
wrong.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ft
unei

n.com%2Fpremium%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C05eea619d5974b3e129708d98
e519

061%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63769730322411553
7%7C

Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
Ik1h

aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=HttDQg%2B8r9KxUfLv2bWRCFgn5POg
qQpJ

cm1VcyDp9oo%3D&amp;reserved=0


On 10/13/2021 8:39 AM, Justin Williams wrote:
I thought tune in stopped doing that.

So I should resubscribe, then.

Justin


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
aaron lane
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: nfl live

Not for free. I have the premium subscription on the Tune-In
radio App.
It's around $10, and I can listen to NFL games, as well as any
other sporting events that have radio broadcasts. When all I'm
doing is listening anyway, it's the cheapest option.


On 10/10/2021 5:34 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
Is there a way to catch the nfl live on internet, where I can
see any game I would like too?



Thanks,



Justin








































moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 04:57 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Best to get a program from someone else to handle these functions, the Microsoft backup is just sad and the image is useful, unless you wish to make several and then put them on one backup drive.
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Microsoft recommended, years ago now, that users NOT use the old built-in utility to take system images, and maintained it only in an "as is" state.  The following announcement, made back when Windows 10, Version 1709 appeared, makes this clear.  You use the old Backup & Restore at your own risk, as deprecated features can be pulled pretty much without further warning (though you will often get it, but not always).

Microsoft Announcement of Deprecated Features, including System Image Backup (SIB) [Backup and Restore (Windows 7)], as of V1709

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moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

Soronel Haetir
 

The basic view as default no longer works the way it used to.

Used to be (with basic as default) I could simply go to "gmail.com"
and it would load the page with the basic HTML view already set. Now
if I go to gmail.com it loads the standard view and I have to hit the
basic HTML button for each separate visit. To use basic from the
outset I now have to use a bookmark (to the page that comes up when I
hit the basic HTML button).

It's not a change I'm particularly happy with but I've at least mostly
made the mental switch.

On 10/13/21, Jeff Christiansen <jeff@teameei.org> wrote:
The set Basic view as default appears at the bottom of the page after you
have made the change to basic view.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

I was having trouble yesterday, but managed to be able to load the Basic
HTML view for my various GMail accounts this morning. Hopefully it stays
that way all day.

It seems as though they've taken away the ability to keep this as the
default view, though. For the past few days, I've had to toggle it on when
I've logged in to the web interface. I can't find the "set Basic HTML as the
default view" that I used to see before, and it isn't under the Settings,
either. (Sight dependent people seem to like the Standard view better; when
my husband needs to find something in my e-mail, he sets it to Standard
view, and I'd find it that way the next time I log in. Imho, it's not very
JFW or this-user friendly.)

More Later,
Dani



On 10/13/21, Patrick Johnson <patrickjohnson1015@gmail.com> wrote:
You are not the only one experiencing issues loading the basic html
version. Gmail has been flaky multiple times over the past few weeks
with trying to load the basic html version. Only advise, take a break
and try again after an hour or two.
Google hangouts appears to be accessible for the most part with JAWS,
but the screen reader access documentation is lacking.

Patrick

On 10/13/21, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com






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