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moderated Re: credit card applications and websites

Adrian Spratt
 

If you want to spend ages on hold every month, only to speak to a rep who can’t understand what your problem is. I was astonished by Synchrony’s lack of interest and, ultimately, their admission that there’s no one to speak to about Web accessibility.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: credit card applications and websites

 

And you could always go to your bank and if that is not possible call them as they may be able to do it over the phone with you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: October 12, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: credit card applications and websites

 

You might consider Amazon’s Visa card. The only accessibility issue there for me was the combo boxes. As I recall, the solution is not to press enter at the combo box, which I normally do, but just alt-down arrow. Then arrow down to your choice, leave it selected, then press the PC cursor twice quickly to exit.

 

Whatever you do, avoid any credit card issued by Synchrony Bank. Its statements are completely inaccessible. Unfortunately, it’s the bank PayPal uses. PayPal itself is fine.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: credit card applications and websites

 

Hello List,

I need to apply for my first credit card soon.

I was what everyone recommended as far as accessibility of application completion and websites that work best with Jaws and Chrome.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Leo
 

Hi Billy,

I believe you just can’t pay a subscription only for Outlook 365. You basically subscribe to Microsoft 365, and you can use a bunch of apps, included Outlook. Why don’t you just try it out? I’m pretty sure Microsoft gives a 1-month free trial. I can tell you from my experience that the most difficult part to use Outlook is probably the learning curve if you have never used it before. There are many personal settings that I would not like to loose, but I tell you, I  will probably never come back to Thunderbird.

 

Best,

     Leo Bado.

 

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?, Billy

 

From: Curtis Chong

Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

Hello:

 

Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Billy Inglis
 

hi Barbara, thanks for the feedback.
I do not use office products at the moment. I was most Interested in the Outlook Mail function, Billy
 

From: Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?
 

It is accessible to a JAWS user.  There is a few differences, but if you are already familiar with Office, you should be just fine.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Billy Inglis
 

hi Curtis, what about the Outlook mail part?, how accessible is it?, Billy
 

From: Curtis Chong
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io ; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?
 

Hello:

 

Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

Soronel Haetir
 

Don't know, it still works here. Maybe try actually logging out then
signing back in? It's been years since I have actually signed out of
gmail, even with switching computers since I always keep the old ones.

On 10/12/21, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary error.
Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem
persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@...





--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@...


moderated Unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
I am unable to load Basic HTML view in Gmail. It says temporary error. Tried on 2 laptops and on Chrome as well as on firefox. The problem persists with my other account as well. What could be the issue?

Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609


moderated Re: credit card applications and websites

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

And you could always go to your bank and if that is not possible call them as they may be able to do it over the phone with you.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: October 12, 2021 3:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: credit card applications and websites

 

You might consider Amazon’s Visa card. The only accessibility issue there for me was the combo boxes. As I recall, the solution is not to press enter at the combo box, which I normally do, but just alt-down arrow. Then arrow down to your choice, leave it selected, then press the PC cursor twice quickly to exit.

 

Whatever you do, avoid any credit card issued by Synchrony Bank. Its statements are completely inaccessible. Unfortunately, it’s the bank PayPal uses. PayPal itself is fine.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: credit card applications and websites

 

Hello List,

I need to apply for my first credit card soon.

I was what everyone recommended as far as accessibility of application completion and websites that work best with Jaws and Chrome.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: saving images from the internet

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Sorry, should maybe have mentioned that I was using Microsoft Edge as my browser.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 12, 2021 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

The web site I’m looking at is:

www.astronautix.com.

The images are links, so I can enter on them and the image pops up

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

Are they just images on web pages? If so, can you give  one or two website addresses as examples?

Whether you can even save them depends on whether the website creator has allowed this, there are websites where you can't save images. If you can it can be sometimes hit and miss, but generally speaking you would have to be on the image, then press Shift + F10 and see if there is an option called "Save Picture".

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 11, 2021 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saving images from the internet

 

I want to save some images from the internet but can't figure out how to save them on my windows 10 laptop with Jaws 2021.


moderated Re: saving images from the internet

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I just tried this by going to that website and opening an article about Soyuz 1. At the end of the article is a Photo Gallery and I clicked on the first picture which is labelled "Soyuz 1 crash site". After the image opens I press Shift + F10 and the first open said "Open Image in New Tab" and the second was "Save Image As".

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 12, 2021 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

The web site I’m looking at is:

www.astronautix.com.

The images are links, so I can enter on them and the image pops up

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

Are they just images on web pages? If so, can you give  one or two website addresses as examples?

Whether you can even save them depends on whether the website creator has allowed this, there are websites where you can't save images. If you can it can be sometimes hit and miss, but generally speaking you would have to be on the image, then press Shift + F10 and see if there is an option called "Save Picture".

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 11, 2021 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saving images from the internet

 

I want to save some images from the internet but can't figure out how to save them on my windows 10 laptop with Jaws 2021.


moderated Re: credit card applications and websites

Adrian Spratt
 

You might consider Amazon’s Visa card. The only accessibility issue there for me was the combo boxes. As I recall, the solution is not to press enter at the combo box, which I normally do, but just alt-down arrow. Then arrow down to your choice, leave it selected, then press the PC cursor twice quickly to exit.

 

Whatever you do, avoid any credit card issued by Synchrony Bank. Its statements are completely inaccessible. Unfortunately, it’s the bank PayPal uses. PayPal itself is fine.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: credit card applications and websites

 

Hello List,

I need to apply for my first credit card soon.

I was what everyone recommended as far as accessibility of application completion and websites that work best with Jaws and Chrome.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: credit card applications and websites

Mark Arnold ABG
 

Jeff,

 

I use Bank of America and it is very accessible once you get comfortable with the layout.

 

Hope this helps,

Mark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: credit card applications and websites

 

Hello List,

I need to apply for my first credit card soon.

I was what everyone recommended as far as accessibility of application completion and websites that work best with Jaws and Chrome.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated credit card applications and websites

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello List,

I need to apply for my first credit card soon.

I was what everyone recommended as far as accessibility of application completion and websites that work best with Jaws and Chrome.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: saving images from the internet

JM Casey
 

In that case, you can probably hit ctrl-s to save the full sized image.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 12, 2021 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

The web site I’m looking at is:

www.astronautix.com.

The images are links, so I can enter on them and the image pops up

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

Are they just images on web pages? If so, can you give  one or two website addresses as examples?

Whether you can even save them depends on whether the website creator has allowed this, there are websites where you can't save images. If you can it can be sometimes hit and miss, but generally speaking you would have to be on the image, then press Shift + F10 and see if there is an option called "Save Picture".

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 11, 2021 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saving images from the internet

 

I want to save some images from the internet but can't figure out how to save them on my windows 10 laptop with Jaws 2021.


moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

Chris Hill
 

Oh yes it can.  File permissions are found in the file system, and if the owner doesn't have permission to access the file, heaven only knows what would happen.  I ran into this when trying to remove a pin from a win 10 machine, I had to go into the file system and change permissions before I could do what I needed.

Things aren't as simple as they used to be.


There are a lot of ways to make a system image, the question is how much time are you willing to trade to save a little money.


CH

On 10/12/2021 09:41, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
I should add, that even windows 10 cannot protect itself when it is not booted up.
When one boots to WinPE, you are in windows, but not your windows, it is just like pulling out your hard drive and plugging it into another computer, only to make things easier for people, it calls your old C: drive c:, and the windows you are operating in is using X:.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


Well I've never tried it with windows 10, but it works with 7.
I think another good way that would work well, but I haven't tried this for
backing up, is to boot to WinPE and go into administrative tools and storage
and make a VHD image of the C: drive.
You again would not want to include pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys in this,
as it would just take up a lot of unnecessary space.
BTW, VHD is for virtual hard drive, which is a single file that acts like a
partition or separate drive.
That is what hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys are, VHD files, and that is
ultimately how windows makes backup images, if one looks in system volume
information, you will find a large VHD file.
You should also be able to use something like Macrium Reflect Restore or
possibly partition guru to restore the Windows VHD files.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


Fascinating. What os? I can't imagine win 10 allowing that considering that you can't even access some files without changing permissions.


CH



On 10/12/2021 09:23, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Yes, I'm using a restored image now.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hill" <hillco@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


Have you ever tried to restore that? Frankly, I don't think you are getting it all, that sounds like a nice way to back up all the files on the system, but that isn't the same thing as an image.


CH



On 10/12/2021 08:44, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When I make a system image, I boot to a talking WinPE either on CD or USB, and zip it up with 7Zip.
There are two files that don't need to be zipped when doing this, because they are just windows temporary files, and they are typically as big as the amount of RAM your system has.
They are hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys
They are both in the C: root, and cannot be deleted while your version of windows is running, but if you boot to WinPE you can delete them, and then proceed to make an image of the C: drive.
Then when you reboot, windows will recreate these files.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram" <dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:42 AM
Subject: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


Hi list members, i want to make a system image, but i’m not sure which program that i should use. Are there any accessible programs that are built in that we could use to make a system image? I want to use this for my c drive. What program is built in that does this with accessibility for the blind built in. Thank you for any information that you might have concerning this question.

























moderated Re: saving images from the internet

Sabrina Markel
 

The web site I’m looking at is:

www.astronautix.com.

The images are links, so I can enter on them and the image pops up

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: saving images from the internet

 

Are they just images on web pages? If so, can you give  one or two website addresses as examples?

Whether you can even save them depends on whether the website creator has allowed this, there are websites where you can't save images. If you can it can be sometimes hit and miss, but generally speaking you would have to be on the image, then press Shift + F10 and see if there is an option called "Save Picture".

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sabrina Markel
Sent: October 11, 2021 7:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: saving images from the internet

 

I want to save some images from the internet but can't figure out how to save them on my windows 10 laptop with Jaws 2021.


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Barbara Sheinbein
 

It is accessible to a JAWS user.  There is a few differences, but if you are already familiar with Office, you should be just fine.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Madison Martin
 

Agree

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: October 12, 2021 1:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook365?

 

Hello:

 

Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: Outlook365?

Curtis Chong
 

Hello:

 

Well, I’d say that most of it is accessible to nonvisual users. Very few things we can’t do with it which mot folks wouldn’t use anyway.

 

Curtis

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Billy Inglis
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 12:24 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Outlook365?

 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Outlook365?

Billy Inglis
 

hi guys, How accessible is Outlook365?, Billy


moderated Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Well you cannot zip any version of windows while in that operating system.
I have windows 10 in a virtual install on my windows 7, so I can launch windows 10 from within windows 7.
If I want to backup or restore windows 10, I can copy the virtual file that it was installed into.
In backing up my C drive, or the VmWare folder in my user profile, I can copy all virtual operating systems easily.
Using virtual operating systems are the way computers are going, especially in the corporate world, because absolutely no virus can migrate out of the virtual version into the host operating system.
So really the best and easiest solution for folks, in my opinion, is to install any operating system, 7, 8, or 10, and then install VmWare, and then install windows 10, and/or 7, 8, or even Linux in a virtual session.
Then you can copy the VmWare version, and have a clean copy so if the VmWare version gets corrupt, just delete it and copy back the saved VmWare copy and reopen it good as new.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


And it sounds like you are still using Windows 7 so I would say until you fully test this with Windows 10 and 11 now that people are starting to upgrade a safer option is to go with one of the many utilities out there who are made for this.
Even if it did work with Windows 10/11 there are many who may not feel like going through the steps of making this talking WinPE disk or drive and then using 7Zip which again most standard users don't have or need since Windows has a built-in zip utility and to then exclude these 2 other files you mention and so on.
This may be what you prefer because you enjoy tinkering with it, but I think most users want to run a utility which does the job and be done with it. I started out with computers probably around the same time as you or maybe even earlier and remember the days when all sorts of little tricks and modifications made things a little better, but I now sure enjoy an experience where I can basically install Windows out of the box without having to do a lot of stuff other than maybe changing a couple of things in File Explorer options, turning off fast startup or putting my user folder on the desktop etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: October 12, 2021 7:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?

Have you ever tried to restore that? Frankly, I don't think you are getting it all, that sounds like a nice way to back up all the files on the system, but that isn't the same thing as an image.


CH



On 10/12/2021 08:44, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
When I make a system image, I boot to a talking WinPE either on CD or
USB, and zip it up with 7Zip.
There are two files that don't need to be zipped when doing this,
because they are just windows temporary files, and they are typically
as big as the amount of RAM your system has.
They are hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys They are both in the C: root,
and cannot be deleted while your version of windows is running, but if
you boot to WinPE you can delete them, and then proceed to make an
image of the C: drive.
Then when you reboot, windows will recreate these files.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ingram"
<dingram269@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 3:42 AM
Subject: What program is best when it comes to making a system image?


Hi list members, i want to make a system image, but i’m not sure which
program that i should use. Are there any accessible programs that are
built in that we could use to make a system image? I want to use this
for my c drive. What program is built in that does this with
accessibility for the blind built in. Thank you for any information
that you might have concerning this question.
















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