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Jaws scripting and job success questions
Michael Walker
Hello all,
As I conduct my job search, how important is learning jaws scripting? I know very little about it. Can knowing it fix absolutely everything that is inaccessible? Without knowing what job I will be accepted for, I feel lost at where to start on learning jaws scripting, to get skilled at what needs to be made accessible. I just know that scripting is quite a time consuming process to learn. What technology careers do most blind people commonly pursue? What has jaws scripting been able to make accessible? Where has it not been helpful? Is Jaws scripting essential, to have any successful career as a blind person? Have any of you been successful in your jobs, without being expert scripters? I feel a little concerned about all of this, because I wonder if I would have been able to have been 100% independent on my previous job, had I known scripting. Is it a panacea? Thank you, Mike
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Eyes-Free Audio Tutorials for Band-in-a-Box Music Creators
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I am sorry, but I do not find a response to my question to you in this reply. Can you please clarify whether you require and provide the use of Scripps?
On Oct 7, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via groups.io <kramlinger.keith@...> wrote:
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Jeff, just wondering if you could do me and probably others a big favour and stop starting every subject line with your name. Your name is already there in the From field and this is quite distracting.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: October 7, 2021 5:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
Hello Jaws Listers, I have a question. Can I post my fundraiser for the Foundation Fighting Blindness for the Pittsburgh chapter, or is that not allowed? Thanks, Jeff Lukacsena
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Re: OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Which they should have had to begin with and even better is to turn on 2-factor authentication.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 3:52 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
If nothing else, it is a way for someone to learn that their FB account has been hacked, and they need to go in and make a new and stronger password. Glenn
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Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook
Adrian Spratt
Try forwarding the message to yourself. Doing so often makes the attachment appear to JAWS.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 1:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook
Yes, and that is a very unfortunate thing and I wish there were a way to choose whether a photo should be sent as a proper attachment or as an embedded attachment which are much harder to access.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I will do some testing by sending things from my iPhone to myself. I’ve only experienced this with photos that Apple seems to mostly imbed now….
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Last night’s example was a .zip folder containing 3 PDF files with text and some report forms.
I’ve noticed this also with Word documents that are sent and attached in e-mails sent via IPhones.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
That is very interesting. Are these photos or some other file type? I’ve not noticed that. If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.
It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.
I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.
Dr. Tom Behler From Michigan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Hello:
It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.☺️
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
Hi All,
I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.
Cynthia
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’
On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
This question really ought to have been first sent to the list owners.
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 6:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
I think that would open up a whole can of worms. There really should be a list totally dedicated for this. On 10/7/2021 7:40 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:
-- Thanks, Lion Marty Hutchings BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison (262) 605-8981 mhutchings152730@... www.wisconsinbold.com
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
Marty Hutchings
I think that would open up a whole can of worms. There really
should be a list totally dedicated for this. On 10/7/2021 7:40 PM, Jeff Lukacsena
wrote:
-- Thanks, Lion Marty Hutchings BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison (262) 605-8981 mhutchings152730@... www.wisconsinbold.com
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: work around for PDF files
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I’m late to this thread, so sorry if I am repeating things. ON my Windows 10 system, under Control Panel, Programs and Features, Adobe is listed as: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.
Have you tried the Jaws OCR on PDF files that are not accessible?
Are your PDF documents opening in EDGE instead of Acrobat? That is an issue in the default programs settings.
Other than buying Kindle books and using Codex to convert them to another format, I know of no other reliable web site to get books. Other than books in audio format like Libro.fm or Audible….
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: work around for PDF files
Hi List, First, I tried to download Acrobat Adobe DC. It said the file on my computer was the most recent. Then I tried to uninstall Adobe Acrobate. I could not find it under programs in the control panel. Then, I remembered I had a disc for Kurzweil 100. I had to uninstall it a while back to conserve memory, then my Windows had to be reinstall due to not allowing Windows update to run correctly. I called the Microsoft Disability line a couple of weeks ago and they helped me to reinstall Windows 10. So then I ran the install of Kurzweil, they asked for my serial number, and it’s not on the DVD cover like they used to put that in Braille. So I had to go to my old Dell laptop wait for about 10 minutes to get it to boot, then open Kurzweil over there, and copy the serial number. Then I got Kurzwel up on my Lenovo laptop and typed in the serial number. Then I pulled the PDF into Kurzweil and then saved it as a text file. That took a total of 1.5 hours. Adobe is on Lenovo, but there is no Save as text, so I will just be using Kurzweil. Next step is to try and get my Lenovo laptop to recognize my scanner. I have a stack of books that I could not find on Bookshare. Does anyone recommend any other book websites that I can look up books and download them in BRF, Word, or text, EPub, no Kindle. Thanks, Jeff
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Jeff Lukacsena: question about posting something on the list
Jeff Lukacsena
Hello Jaws Listers, I have a question. Can I post my fundraiser for the Foundation Fighting Blindness for the Pittsburgh chapter, or is that not allowed? Thanks, Jeff Lukacsena
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Back soon
ravel@...
I am temporarily away from my desk.
I will read your message when I return. Thanks for your patience.
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Jeff Lukacsena: work around for PDF files
Jeff Lukacsena
Hi List, First, I tried to download Acrobat Adobe DC. It said the file on my computer was the most recent. Then I tried to uninstall Adobe Acrobate. I could not find it under programs in the control panel. Then, I remembered I had a disc for Kurzweil 100. I had to uninstall it a while back to conserve memory, then my Windows had to be reinstall due to not allowing Windows update to run correctly. I called the Microsoft Disability line a couple of weeks ago and they helped me to reinstall Windows 10. So then I ran the install of Kurzweil, they asked for my serial number, and it’s not on the DVD cover like they used to put that in Braille. So I had to go to my old Dell laptop wait for about 10 minutes to get it to boot, then open Kurzweil over there, and copy the serial number. Then I got Kurzwel up on my Lenovo laptop and typed in the serial number. Then I pulled the PDF into Kurzweil and then saved it as a text file. That took a total of 1.5 hours. Adobe is on Lenovo, but there is no Save as text, so I will just be using Kurzweil. Next step is to try and get my Lenovo laptop to recognize my scanner. I have a stack of books that I could not find on Bookshare. Does anyone recommend any other book websites that I can look up books and download them in BRF, Word, or text, EPub, no Kindle. Thanks, Jeff
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe
Curtis Chong
Bill:
Excellent idea. It actually is something I do for things like bank statements, etc. Works for me. Thanks.
Appreciatively,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 6:02 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe
Hi, Curtis and Gerald. I don't think much of the Save as Text option in the file menu of Adobe Acrobat DC. On some of my documents, once I convert the pdf to text, each word of the converted text file is on a new line. The pdf did not read this way, with each word on a separate line.
What I do instead is this,
1. Make sure Adobe Acrobat is set to read the entire document. 2. Open the pdf in Adobe Acrobat DC. 3. Once all the text is displayed, press CONTROL plus A to select the entire text. 4. Copy selected text to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C. 5. Close the document. 6. Open a blank text file in Notepad. 7. Paste the text residing on the clipboard into the blank document, and save it. 8. Voila! you have converted your pdf into a readable text file.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Hello Jeff:
In Acrobat Reader DC, there is a save as text button in the file menu. At least, I see that button in the version I am running, which should be the most recent.
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Hi List, I have a quick question on Adobe. I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them. There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF. Anyone know how to change this. Thanks, Jeff
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Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe
Bill White
Hi, Curtis and Gerald. I don't think much of the Save as Text option in the file menu of Adobe Acrobat DC. On some of my documents, once I convert the pdf to text, each word of the converted text file is on a new line. The pdf did not read this way, with each word on a separate line.
What I do instead is this,
1. Make sure Adobe Acrobat is set to read the entire document. 2. Open the pdf in Adobe Acrobat DC. 3. Once all the text is displayed, press CONTROL plus A to select the entire text. 4. Copy selected text to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C. 5. Close the document. 6. Open a blank text file in Notepad. 7. Paste the text residing on the clipboard into the blank document, and save it. 8. Voila! you have converted your pdf into a readable text file.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 12:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe
Hello Jeff:
In Acrobat Reader DC, there is a save as text button in the file menu. At least, I see that button in the version I am running, which should be the most recent.
Warmly,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Hi List, I have a quick question on Adobe. I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them. There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF. Anyone know how to change this. Thanks, Jeff
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Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over
Bill White
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 4:51 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over
With this Jaws feature stay active when you shut down and reboot your computer Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play. On Oct 8, 2021, at 6:22 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
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Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over
leonard morris
With this Jaws feature stay active when you shut down and reboot your computer
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Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.
On Oct 8, 2021, at 6:22 AM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
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Re: OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
Glenn / Lenny
If nothing else, it is a way for someone to learn
that their FB account has been hacked, and they need to go in and make a new and
stronger password.
Glenn
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Re: OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
JM Casey
Ah yeah, that’s been going on for a while. Just another barely competent scam. Well, I guess some people must be taken in or they wouldn’t bother, but I’ve never seen any of these that aren’t really transparent.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 06:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
Hi All, Just thought I'd alert folks, and pass this on... People's Facebook accounts are getting hacked and the hackers will contact their friends posing as your friend, through Messenger letting them know about a grant they received, and that there is an agent who will help you to get a grant too. One way to find out if it is a hack, You can message the person asking for the answer to a question that only that person would know, that did not come up on FB, like the name of your cat or something, and they will be revealed as the hacker. I was contacted by the hacker of my sister-in-law's account on this today. Eventually they get to asking you for your personal information, and that is when I knew it was a scam. So I looked it up on-line, and I found references to the same scam. Glenn
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OT, FaceBook Messenger Scam
Glenn / Lenny
Hi All,
Just thought I'd alert folks, and pass this
on...
People's Facebook accounts are getting hacked and
the hackers will contact their friends posing as your friend, through Messenger
letting them know about a grant they received, and that there is an agent who
will help you to get a grant too.
One way to find out if it is a hack, You can
message the person asking for the answer to a question that only that person
would know, that did not come up on FB, like the name of your cat or something,
and they will be revealed as the hacker.
I was contacted by the hacker of my sister-in-law's
account on this today.
Eventually they get to asking you for your personal
information, and that is when I knew it was a scam.
So I looked it up on-line, and I found references
to the same scam.
Glenn
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Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over
JM Casey
I think that was the first version actually. Possibly 2018
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: October 7, 2021 06:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over When did this first become available in JAWS? I just discovered that it works in JAWS 2019. On 10/7/2021 6:39 AM, Sameer wrote: -- Thanks, Lion Marty Hutchings BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison (262) 605-8981 mhutchings152730@gmail.com www.wisconsinbold.com
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Re: [External] : Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over
Don Mauck
You can also use Insert+spacebar PrentScreen
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 4:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: [External] : Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over When did this first become available in JAWS? I just discovered that it works in JAWS 2019. On 10/7/2021 6:39 AM, Sameer wrote: -- Thanks, Lion Marty Hutchings BOLD Secretary, Program Director and VIP Liaison (262) 605-8981 mhutchings152730@gmail.com https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.wisconsinbold.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!dfoGsNbtxplDqN_x_fiLEpkcEuycbkl4MoaYEi3zsypPz074OAWpUO-YehilhTc$
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