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moderated Re: [External] : Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Don Mauck
 

You can also use Insert+spacebar PrentScreen

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] : Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

When did this first become available in JAWS?  I just discovered that it works in JAWS 2019.

On 10/7/2021 6:39 AM, Sameer wrote:

Dear Turab,


You can use the "Screenshade" feature in JAWS to prevent others from
looking over your shoulder when you type sensitive details. The
Screenshade can be turned on or off with the keystroke, JAWS key +
Spacebar, followed by F11. This keystroke is a toggle keystroke.


Regards
Sameer Latey

On 07-10-2021 04:56 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:
No, and I'm glad of it too.

The trouble with screen curtains is if your device crashes and the
screen doesn't come on, you can't get sighted help.

All the best

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chimthanawala
Sent: 07 October 2021 12:08
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Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over

Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent
people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

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moderated Jaws2021 firefox bookmark for laptop

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All

I have laptop computer Windows10  and jaws2021  ,firefox version 91.03  !! When I opened firefox  when the homepage  open  then I press alt + b for bookmark  then I press any lfirst letter of any website I want to read  for example  when I press first letter f for facebook  it won’t do anything  I think the letter b for bookmark  isn’t activate  for bookmark menu  so I can press the first letter for it say facebook  to presenter  

What do I need to do to fix this problem?

Addison


moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Glenn / Lenny
 

But it does not work in windows 7.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
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To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


When did this first become available in JAWS? I just discovered that it works in JAWS 2019.

On 10/7/2021 6:39 AM, Sameer wrote:

Dear Turab,


You can use the "Screenshade" feature in JAWS to prevent others from looking over your shoulder when you type sensitive details. The Screenshade can be turned on or off with the keystroke, JAWS key + Spacebar, followed by F11. This keystroke is a toggle keystroke.


Regards
Sameer Latey

On 07-10-2021 04:56 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:
No, and I'm glad of it too.

The trouble with screen curtains is if your device crashes and the screen doesn't come on, you can't get sighted help.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: 07 October 2021 12:08
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

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Turab Chimthanawala
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moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Marty Hutchings
 

When did this first become available in JAWS?  I just discovered that it works in JAWS 2019.

On 10/7/2021 6:39 AM, Sameer wrote:

Dear Turab,


You can use the "Screenshade" feature in JAWS to prevent others from looking over your shoulder when you type sensitive details. The Screenshade can be turned on or off with the keystroke, JAWS key + Spacebar, followed by F11. This keystroke is a toggle keystroke.


Regards
Sameer Latey

On 07-10-2021 04:56 pm, Steve Nutt wrote:
No, and I'm glad of it too.

The trouble with screen curtains is if your device crashes and the screen doesn't come on, you can't get sighted help.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of turab chimthanawala
Sent: 07 October 2021 12:08
To: jfw <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com













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moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

Milton Ota
 

I would try using JAWS to convert the pdf to Word which is a layered command. In other words you are going to OCR the pdf with JAWS.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

 

Hi List,

I have a quick question on Adobe.

I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them.

There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF.

Anyone know how to change this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

Gerald Levy
 


Keep scrolling down past the Save As option, and you will land on a Save As Text option.


Gerald



On 10/7/2021 2:54 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hi List,

I have a quick question on Adobe.

I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them.

There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF.

Anyone know how to change this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

Curtis Chong
 

Hello Jeff:

 

In Acrobat Reader DC, there is a save as text button in the file menu. At least, I see that button in the version I am running, which should be the most recent.

 

Warmly,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

 

Hi List,

I have a quick question on Adobe.

I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them.

There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF.

Anyone know how to change this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

Vaughn Brown
 

Hi there,

 

Do you have an online account with adobe.com? It has a PDF-text converter on it. I used it extensively during college in the last two years and it works quite well.

 

Warmly,

 

Vaughn

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

 

Hi List,

I have a quick question on Adobe.

I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them.

There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF.

Anyone know how to change this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: [EXTERNAL] Eyes-Free Audio Tutorials for Band-in-a-Box Music Creators

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

thank you,
Does the process you describe require use of Scripps for jaws? If so, do you provide those?

Thank you.



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moderated Jeff Lukacsena: question on Adobe

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hi List,

I have a quick question on Adobe.

I am able to open PDF, but I cannot seem to save them as text files, so I can edit them.

There is a Save As button on the file menu. But it only seems to save the files as PDF.

Anyone know how to change this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 


moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Richard.

 

Let us know what you find.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I will do some testing by sending things from my iPhone to myself.

I’ve only experienced this with photos that Apple seems to mostly imbed now….

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Last night’s example was a .zip folder containing 3 PDF files with text and some report forms.

 

I’ve noticed this also with Word documents that are sent and attached in e-mails sent via IPhones.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

That is very interesting.

Are these photos or some other file type?

I’ve not noticed that.  If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...

 

On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Yes, and that is a very unfortunate thing and I wish there were a way to choose whether a photo should be sent as a proper attachment or as an embedded attachment which are much harder to access.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: October 7, 2021 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I will do some testing by sending things from my iPhone to myself.

I’ve only experienced this with photos that Apple seems to mostly imbed now….

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Last night’s example was a .zip folder containing 3 PDF files with text and some report forms.

 

I’ve noticed this also with Word documents that are sent and attached in e-mails sent via IPhones.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

That is very interesting.

Are these photos or some other file type?

I’ve not noticed that.  If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...

 

On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I will do some testing by sending things from my iPhone to myself.

I’ve only experienced this with photos that Apple seems to mostly imbed now….

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Last night’s example was a .zip folder containing 3 PDF files with text and some report forms.

 

I’ve noticed this also with Word documents that are sent and attached in e-mails sent via IPhones.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

That is very interesting.

Are these photos or some other file type?

I’ve not noticed that.  If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...

 

On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Glenn / Lenny
 

Well given that the unemployment rate of the Blind is over 70%, I think the majority on this list are not in a situation like yours, and don't require much sighted collaboration/assistance, nor is it even often available.
So, the inconvenience is simply turning on a monitor, or heaven forbid, one has to lift a laptop lid.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


I am not at all trying to be contrary, you were the one who implied that if I needed that much sighted assistance something was wrong where my post simply stated that if you were in an environment where you worked with sighted people turning the monitor off and on many times a day was inconvenient.
I know I am in a unique situation with my retail business, but I know a lot of blind people both here and back in Germany where I grew up who are lawyers, judges, IT professionals or who work for the government and are in settings where they interact with sighted colleagues or clients all the time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Well when I need a coworker to come in and collaborate, I can either lift the lid of the laptop in the docking station, or power on the monitor.
I think that is rare that a monitor of a Blind person needs to be on.
I think you want to be contrary here, and perhaps you are in a rare situation.
I think that in a call center too, the supervisors would not like anyone's monitor being off, as they walk around to check on what the workers are doing.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


Have you ever heard about blind and sighted people working together?
There is a difference between "assistance" and "collaboration". In my
case there is also the fact that I may have 3 customers coming into my
office inside half an hour and in some cases I may want them to see
the screen because maybe I want to show them a product and in some
cases I may not want them to see the screen if I have to look up the
cost of a product because they are asking me for a deal and I have to
check if I can give them one or not. I don't know what you do for
work, but it seems you are mostly doing it alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over

LOL
If you have to have sighted assistance that often, there is a problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over


Because if you work in an environment with sighted people who may
want to look at your monitor turning it off and on many times a day
is inconvenient whereas for Jaws users the screen shade key sequence
is easy, quick and effective. And there is the fact that continuously
turning electronic devices on and off can sometimes do more harm than
it does good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like
Apple has for Voice over

Why not just turn off the monitor completely?
Or if it is a laptop with a separate keyboard, keep the lid closed,
and set the power options to do nothing when the lid is closed.
It saves energy too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "turab chimthanawala" <turabhvc@gmail.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 6:08 AM
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over


Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent
people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com


































moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I am not at all trying to be contrary, you were the one who implied that if I needed that much sighted assistance something was wrong where my post simply stated that if you were in an environment where you worked with sighted people turning the monitor off and on many times a day was inconvenient.
I know I am in a unique situation with my retail business, but I know a lot of blind people both here and back in Germany where I grew up who are lawyers, judges, IT professionals or who work for the government and are in settings where they interact with sighted colleagues or clients all the time.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Well when I need a coworker to come in and collaborate, I can either lift the lid of the laptop in the docking station, or power on the monitor.
I think that is rare that a monitor of a Blind person needs to be on.
I think you want to be contrary here, and perhaps you are in a rare situation.
I think that in a call center too, the supervisors would not like anyone's monitor being off, as they walk around to check on what the workers are doing.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


Have you ever heard about blind and sighted people working together?
There is a difference between "assistance" and "collaboration". In my
case there is also the fact that I may have 3 customers coming into my
office inside half an hour and in some cases I may want them to see
the screen because maybe I want to show them a product and in some
cases I may not want them to see the screen if I have to look up the
cost of a product because they are asking me for a deal and I have to
check if I can give them one or not. I don't know what you do for
work, but it seems you are mostly doing it alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over

LOL
If you have to have sighted assistance that often, there is a problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over


Because if you work in an environment with sighted people who may
want to look at your monitor turning it off and on many times a day
is inconvenient whereas for Jaws users the screen shade key sequence
is easy, quick and effective. And there is the fact that continuously
turning electronic devices on and off can sometimes do more harm than
it does good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like
Apple has for Voice over

Why not just turn off the monitor completely?
Or if it is a laptop with a separate keyboard, keep the lid closed,
and set the power options to do nothing when the lid is closed.
It saves energy too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "turab chimthanawala" <turabhvc@gmail.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 6:08 AM
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over


Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent
people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com

























moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Tom Behler
 

Last night’s example was a .zip folder containing 3 PDF files with text and some report forms.

 

I’ve noticed this also with Word documents that are sent and attached in e-mails sent via IPhones.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

That is very interesting.

Are these photos or some other file type?

I’ve not noticed that.  If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...

 

On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Glenn / Lenny
 

Well when I need a coworker to come in and collaborate, I can either lift the lid of the laptop in the docking station, or power on the monitor.
I think that is rare that a monitor of a Blind person needs to be on.
I think you want to be contrary here, and perhaps you are in a rare situation.
I think that in a call center too, the supervisors would not like anyone's monitor being off, as they walk around to check on what the workers are doing.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


Have you ever heard about blind and sighted people working together? There is a difference between "assistance" and "collaboration". In my case there is also the fact that I may have 3 customers coming into my office inside half an hour and in some cases I may want them to see the screen because maybe I want to show them a product and in some cases I may not want them to see the screen if I have to look up the cost of a product because they are asking me for a deal and I have to check if I can give them one or not. I don't know what you do for work, but it seems you are mostly doing it alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

LOL
If you have to have sighted assistance that often, there is a problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


Because if you work in an environment with sighted people who may want
to look at your monitor turning it off and on many times a day is
inconvenient whereas for Jaws users the screen shade key sequence is
easy, quick and effective. And there is the fact that continuously
turning electronic devices on and off can sometimes do more harm than
it does good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over

Why not just turn off the monitor completely?
Or if it is a laptop with a separate keyboard, keep the lid closed,
and set the power options to do nothing when the lid is closed.
It saves energy too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "turab chimthanawala" <turabhvc@gmail.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 6:08 AM
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has
for Voice over


Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent
people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com
























moderated Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Have you ever heard about blind and sighted people working together? There is a difference between "assistance" and "collaboration". In my case there is also the fact that I may have 3 customers coming into my office inside half an hour and in some cases I may want them to see the screen because maybe I want to show them a product and in some cases I may not want them to see the screen if I have to look up the cost of a product because they are asking me for a deal and I have to check if I can give them one or not. I don't know what you do for work, but it seems you are mostly doing it alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over

LOL
If you have to have sighted assistance that often, there is a problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has for Voice over


Because if you work in an environment with sighted people who may want
to look at your monitor turning it off and on many times a day is
inconvenient whereas for Jaws users the screen shade key sequence is
easy, quick and effective. And there is the fact that continuously
turning electronic devices on and off can sometimes do more harm than
it does good.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: October 7, 2021 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple
has for Voice over

Why not just turn off the monitor completely?
Or if it is a laptop with a separate keyboard, keep the lid closed,
and set the power options to do nothing when the lid is closed.
It saves energy too.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "turab chimthanawala" <turabhvc@gmail.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2021 6:08 AM
Subject: Has Windows finally developed a screen curtain like Apple has
for Voice over


Hi all,
Is there a screen curtain in Windows? If not anyway I can prevent
people spoofing in when I type in some personal content?
Thanks

--
Regards,

Turab Chimthanawala
(ACS, LLM)
+91-8087813609
turabhvc@gmail.com















moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

That is very interesting.

Are these photos or some other file type?

I’ve not noticed that.  If it is at all reproduceable, I’d submit feedback to FS support.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...



On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia


moderated Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

Tom Behler
 

I’ve actually noticed the reverse situation too at times.

 

It seems that whenever someone sends me an e-mail with an attachment, using an IPhone, Jaws does not announce the existence of an attachment, even though an attachment is cleary there and can be accessed via shift tab.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Microsoft 365, and the latest build of Jaws 2021 here.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 11:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hello:

 

It is often the case that JAWS will indicate that an email has an attachment but in fact there is no attachment that we can open. This seems to happen with messages which appear as web pages more than email. It’s just one of those things in the modern age.☺️

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Oct 7, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Cynthia Bruce <cynthia.bruce@...> wrote:



Hi All,

 

I think I started this thread, and I wasn’t using preview, so there was a glitch at some point that I encounter every once in a while. When it happens, shift tab and JAWS key plus A don’t work. I do know that it happens consistently if people embed the attachment in the email message itself.

 

Cynthia

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: October 7, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi, Zel. Apparently, what they are doing is looking at the message in Message Preview, without actually opening the message. JAWS key plus A won't work in this case. I actually go into Outlook Options, under the General Category, and turn off Live Preview. This makes it necessary to press ENTER to see a message, and once a message is open, you can use either JAWS key plus A to get to attachments, or you can use SHIFT plus TAB to get to the attachments list.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 3:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Have you tried pressing the Jaws key with ‘a’

 

 

Zel Iscel

Inclusive World

Principle Consultant

 

Mobile: +61 0413813885

Email: zel@...




On 7 Oct 2021, at 6:03 pm, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:



The only way I have found to get to my attachments in Outlook is to hit enter when I am in the message list.  This opens the email in full, not just a preview.  At this point I Shift-tab once and the focus moves from the message body to the attachment list. 

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

I’ve had this issue too so will be glad of any suggestions. The only way I can get my attachments at present is by going to the file menue.

Alison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cynthia Bruce
Sent: 05 October 2021 15:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating to attachments in Outlook

 

Hi All,

 

I am not entirely sure if this is a JAWS issue, but in the last couple of days, I can’t seem to navigate to attachments in Outlook. I know they are there because JAWS tells me there are attachments when I am scrolling through my messages. However, when I back space or use insert A to get to the attachments, JAWS tells me there are no attachments.

 

I am using JAWS 2021, the latest version I believe, and the most current version of Outlook.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cynthia

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