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moderated Re: Webex

Van Lant, Robin
 

We have used Webex here at work for a number of years.  I have had the webex add-in for Outlook, which puts a button on the ribbon to allow me to set up meetings with the click of a button.  The meeting preferences window is not very accessible, but it generally only takes the click of the button to add the meeting details to my calendar invite.   I also prefer to use the desktop app for Webex in some cases. I find the website more cumbersome, though I’ve had to use it for accessing meeting recordings.   You can also have set a delegate, who can then set up meetings on your behalf.

 

As a meeting host, tabbing is the best way to move around and I think you can use F6 to move around some panes.  I don’t find it particularly responsive, meaning that I feel like there is a bit of delay and sometimes focus jumps to where I didn’t expect, but it’s doable.  When in the app and hosting a meeting, thee has been a traditional menu bar across the top where I go for starting a recording, ending the meeting, and looking at other options. You can set up a test meeting to give yourself time to explore the screen.  The big issue I had not too long ago was that, when I tried to share my screen in a meeting,  Webex removed the traditional menus and moved to one of those bars that only shows up when you hover. Nothing I could do with JAWS found them.  In that particular case, I shared my screen, then tried to start a recording, but the record button was only accessible through that little set of hovering buttons that JAWS could not find.  Also, my meeting attendees told me there was some gray box covering the slide I was trying to show and I couldn’t figure out how to get to it and remove it. I presume it was some sort of dialog box for me as the host.  It was rather embarrassing and I’m really glad it was only an agenda slide I had to show.

 

Whether attending or hosting, I have not found accessing the participant pane or chat easy.  JAWS will read out new chat messages, but one can get chopped off if a new message comes in while JAWS is reading the first.

 

I do like attending from the app on my iPhone, as long as I have an earbud so I don’t have to wonder if  they can hear VoiceOver.  Only other issue with using the app is that, if I want to submit a chat, I cannot use dictation.  Most of my meetings are not chat-dependent, so this is really only a problem if attending a webinar where the only way to ask a question is to chat it.  Having a Bluetooth keyboard attached would be a good solution for this.   

 

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 3:45 PM
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Subject: Webex

 

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Greetings everyone,

 

I will be playing with this tonight, but was wondering if anyone has been successful at using Webex with JAWS. Some of the parts seem accessible, from what I have begun noticing, while others (like scheduling meetings) not so much.

I’m looking for JAWS commands. What I wasn’t sure about was whether this was more of a computer or a phone app. I would imagine it can be used on both devices.

I literally just downloaded it a few minutes ago, as I will need to use it for some things in a few days and want to become familiar with it.

If you have any suggestions or thoughts on the app, I’d be interested in communicating.

Thank you.

Jim



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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

Steve Nutt
 

I agree, but my answer concerned Maria’s question that if you install the current beta, it silently migrates. If you are unhappy with that, you can always reset to factory defaults, so you don’t have to wait for that checkbox.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 30 September 2021 16:43
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Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

Steve, I think you are catching up with this thread,

The latest news is there will be a checkbox up front before installation happens to not migrate your settings, so no need to go back to factory defaults because it will install that way.

 

From FS Cast 205.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

Yes, the beta silently migrates settings, but it also has an option to reset back to factory.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 30 September 2021 00:12
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Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

I don't know if the beta migrates settings, but since I never installed the beta, when JAWS 2022 comes out, I'll be able to decide whether I want to migrate settings or not.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

However, wouldn't the settings already be migrated with the installation of the beta?

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 4:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

I just heard on the latest FS podcast that, due to feedback, there will be a checkbox in JAWS 2022 that will allow those who wish to do so, to avoid the AutoMigration feature. By default, this check box will be checked, so it won't be inconvenient for those who want to AutoMigrate, but for those of who don't want to AutoMigrate, we will now be able to uncheck this check box, and avoid having settings migrated from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022. I am happy that they made this change from their initial plans.

 

Bill White

 

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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Steve, I think you are catching up with this thread,

The latest news is there will be a checkbox up front before installation happens to not migrate your settings, so no need to go back to factory defaults because it will install that way.

 

From FS Cast 205.

 

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

Yes, the beta silently migrates settings, but it also has an option to reset back to factory.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 30 September 2021 00:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

I don't know if the beta migrates settings, but since I never installed the beta, when JAWS 2022 comes out, I'll be able to decide whether I want to migrate settings or not.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

However, wouldn't the settings already be migrated with the installation of the beta?

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 4:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

I just heard on the latest FS podcast that, due to feedback, there will be a checkbox in JAWS 2022 that will allow those who wish to do so, to avoid the AutoMigration feature. By default, this check box will be checked, so it won't be inconvenient for those who want to AutoMigrate, but for those of who don't want to AutoMigrate, we will now be able to uncheck this check box, and avoid having settings migrated from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022. I am happy that they made this change from their initial plans.

 

Bill White

 

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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

Steve Nutt
 

Yep, it’s a bit unhappy at the moment the beta.

 

I even found an Email where it wouldn’t read the subject line at all in the message list of Outlook 365. Going back to JAWS 2021, it worked.

 

So don’t try the beta, unless you want to have fun, or know what you’re doing, or at least if you do, keep the 2021 JAWS shortcut handy on the desktop with a keyboard hotkey so you can easily swap.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: 30 September 2021 00:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

Lucky you.  I made the mistake of downloading the beta and had to go back to 21, because of frequent crashes.

 

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 7:11 PM, Bill White wrote:

I don't know if the beta migrates settings, but since I never installed the beta, when JAWS 2022 comes out, I'll be able to decide whether I want to migrate settings or not.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

However, wouldn't the settings already be migrated with the installation of the beta?

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 4:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

I just heard on the latest FS podcast that, due to feedback, there will be a checkbox in JAWS 2022 that will allow those who wish to do so, to avoid the AutoMigration feature. By default, this check box will be checked, so it won't be inconvenient for those who want to AutoMigrate, but for those of who don't want to AutoMigrate, we will now be able to uncheck this check box, and avoid having settings migrated from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022. I am happy that they made this change from their initial plans.

 

Bill White

 

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moderated Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

It really depends who you are.

 

I personally like to adopt early, because then we can give feedback. If no blind person adopted early, then Microsoft wouldn’t know if their accessibility improvements actually are improvements.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 30 September 2021 00:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

 

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 06:47 PM, Curtis Chong wrote:

There is, honestly, no real urgency to update to Windows 11 at the present time.

-
This.  This is the very thing people need to keep in mind.

If you have a computer that can be upgraded to Windows 11, and you are a screen reader user, I would put off upgrading for a minimum of six months.  There is absolutely nothing to be gained by being an early adopter of Windows 11 (and that's even if you're not a screen reader user).  Let others handle the "shake out cruise" that occurs at every Feature Update, and the Win10 to Win11 upgrade is just that, but "on steroids."

In a few short months we will all know whether or not the upgrade to Windows 11 is likely to go off without a hitch and with the result being stable.  You can't know that during the early rollout period.

In the case of Windows 11, I will change my usual advice, which is, "Wait until Windows Update presents you with the option to update."  In this case, wait several months beyond that date if you happen to have a machine where Windows 11 is being offered to you as part of one of the very earliest update cohorts.  Word will spread about when Windows 11 is actually "ready for primetime."  Why rush it?  But once that's been determined, then why resist it if your hardware is Windows 11 compatible? 
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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

Steve Nutt
 

Yes, the beta silently migrates settings, but it also has an option to reset back to factory.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 30 September 2021 00:12
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

I don't know if the beta migrates settings, but since I never installed the beta, when JAWS 2022 comes out, I'll be able to decide whether I want to migrate settings or not.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

However, wouldn't the settings already be migrated with the installation of the beta?

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 4:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

I just heard on the latest FS podcast that, due to feedback, there will be a checkbox in JAWS 2022 that will allow those who wish to do so, to avoid the AutoMigration feature. By default, this check box will be checked, so it won't be inconvenient for those who want to AutoMigrate, but for those of who don't want to AutoMigrate, we will now be able to uncheck this check box, and avoid having settings migrated from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022. I am happy that they made this change from their initial plans.

 

Bill White

 

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moderated Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

Steve Nutt
 

Yes, but you can reset JAWS back to factory defaults if you want.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: 29 September 2021 21:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2022 provides a way to avoid AutoMigration feature

 

However, wouldn't the settings already be migrated with the installation of the beta?

 

Maria Campbell
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On 9/29/2021 4:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

I just heard on the latest FS podcast that, due to feedback, there will be a checkbox in JAWS 2022 that will allow those who wish to do so, to avoid the AutoMigration feature. By default, this check box will be checked, so it won't be inconvenient for those who want to AutoMigrate, but for those of who don't want to AutoMigrate, we will now be able to uncheck this check box, and avoid having settings migrated from JAWS 2021 to JAWS 2022. I am happy that they made this change from their initial plans.

 

Bill White

 

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moderated Re: CRM software

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Rick,

 

If you have a Wordpress Website, I highly recommend Jetpack CRM. It is currently free for a year I believe, and is very accessible with JAWS.

 

If not, I don’t know, but I integrated it with my web store.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: 28 September 2021 22:54
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Subject: CRM software

 

Hello all,

 

I am needing to consider a CRM software to simply hold my business contacts, have ability to send one message to many different contacts other than sending out many same message to many separately. The ability to have notes regarding communication history to help recall last call or message other than saving so many emails just to recall where any discussion is at. Outlook just isn’t proper and with this in mind, Can anyone help me understand which CRM programs work best with Jaws?

 

Thank you all,

 

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moderated Re: items on desktop

Van Lant, Robin
 

To ad to what Brian wrote, once you type it in the search box and hear JAWS read off the program name, you can hit the application key and select pin to Start or pin to taskbar to find it more easily in the future. I wish there was an option to pin to desktop, but pinning to taskbar is a close substitute for me.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
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To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: items on desktop

 

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Presuming this is either an installed program, the old-style, now known as a desktop app, or it's a modern app, you can always find it by hitting the Windows Key and typing the first couple of characters of its name.  I'd imagine that, "chrn," if not just, "chr," are going to have this show up as the first search result.

This can even work for portable programs/apps if the folder in which you've elected to store it/them is indexed for Windows Search.

If it's currently running, regardless of the specific type of app, it should be part of the taskbar, as I don't assume it's a hidden process, and even then it would likely be in the overflow area accessed by activating the chevron button after hitting WinKey + B.
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moderated Re: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

Steve Nutt
 

On the other hand, VMs can be very useful for testing.

 

I personally appreciate Joseph’s explanations and I consider myself very technical, probably more so than you, if you don’t use VMs.

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 28 September 2021 18:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

 

And it is not anything an average computer user would have or know about. Joseph, I don't want to sound overly critical here, but I think as a very knowledgeable power user you sometimes give explanations which are far beyond what a normal computer user would know and while I realize there are other very technical people on this list, it might be a good idea to indicate when an answer or explanation you give may not apply to 90% of computer users.

I have been using computers with Jaws since the ending years of DOS in 1989 and the early years of first Windows 3.1 and then Windows 95 and I would consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable, but even I have never felt I needed to set up virtual machines or run virtualization software.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: September 28, 2021 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

 

Hi,

Virtual TPM requires a virtualization software that can emulate such a chip – so far, Microsoft Hyper-V and VMware Workstation Pro include virtualized TPM support, with Oracle looking into letting Virtual Box users specify that the physical (or platform) TPM from the host computer be usable from virtual machines. TPM requirement for Windows 11 went into effect across physical and virtual machines as of a preview build released two weeks ago.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

 

How do you get a virtual tpm chip>

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

 

I read on Kim Komando's newsletter, that Microsoft will allow some older computers to install Windows 11 if they sign a waver.

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Subject: Computer won't allow me too install windows 11.

 

               Good evening everyone, 

 

Earlier this afternoon, I got in touch with the people from Microsoft’s disability answer desk  and asked them to see if this computer would be able too install windows 11.  Unfortunately, after they ran the windows help thing,  it said that the chip that is in this computer which is a dell 46 hundred, with a one point two   chip wouldn’t  allow windows 11, too be installed.  He said that I would need a chip that has a two point zero chip, or perhaps, that kind of processor.      


moderated Re: Is there dramatic changes to windows10 most recent version

David Diamond
 

Well, speaking for myself, yes, when calling MS help, I have heard chickens in the background or specifically a rooster.  I found it amusing.  The main thing was, the agent was not distracted by it.  I say this because one time when phoning Amazon around 10 AM PST, I heard children and the TV in the background and could tell the agent was more interested in the children and TV then she was, helping me with a problem. It sounds strange but, the COVID 19 or at least working from home has vastly decreased the wait time on hold with a lot of these places.  Now if we could just get them to learn the difference between hockey and football we’d be making leaps and bounds in their education.  LOL. I’m trying to get a sporting package and some agents tell me it is available, then accidently hang up on me, or they say it is not available.  It all most depends on who you talk too. There is a big difference between the NFL and NHL. The long and short of all of this is, I don’t care who I’m talking too as long as they know what they are doing, are not distracted by other things and are clearly understood and they understand what I want or need.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there dramatic changes to windows10 most recent version

 

You all have to be a bit more open mined here. Much of Microsoft support is out of the Philippines even high level support for my Microsoft Dynamics point of sale software was and these were highly trained, competent people. Because of COVID-19 many call centre employees were set up to work from at home and this is not always as easy as it would be here since it is not usual in the Philippines that people have or can afford high speed internet, most just use their cell phone data or maybe have a smarthub of some sort. Anyhow, many companies paid for employees to have a good internet connection so they can work from at home, but this means you may hear a rooster because if you are in in western Canada or the western United States there is a 15-hour time difference to the Philippines, if you are Eastern time it is 12 hours. Therefor if you call Microsoft Accessibility at Noon in the West you are talking to agent at 3 AM local time and this is typically when the roosters start crowing. My wife is from the Philippines and I have been there many times and that is just a fact of life since a lot of people have chickens there even in the cities. Of course it used to be like that here as well but that is so long ago that people in our society are not used to it, instead we are used to sirens at all hours of the day and all sorts of other man-made noises.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: September 29, 2021 6:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there dramatic changes to windows10 most recent version

 

I was able to work with someone at Microsoft Accessibility to make the change. It was hard to figure out what they were doing as there was a Rooster crowing in the back ground. I’m not kidding! I know they did it through windows and not the BIOS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is there dramatic changes to windows10 most recent version

 

Hey Kevin

 

Just to clarify that this issue isn’t something to do with Office, what result do you get in general when you use F1 to F12? To test, navigate to the desktop and press the JAWS key + F12. Does JAWS announce the time as expected? If not, press the JAWS key + Function key + F12.

 

If you didn’t have to hold the Function key, then it’s all configured the way you want it and something else is happening in Office.

 

If you did have to hold the Function key, you might be lucky enough to have a laptop that has a keyboard combination to switch this behaviour; as others have suggested. For example, on my Dell, you can press Function + Escape, and on my work HP, you can press Function + Left Shift.

 

To find out the model of your computer:

  1. Press windows + R to load the Run box.
  2. Type “msinfo32” to load System Information and press Enter.
  3. Tab once into the System Summary list and down arrow to System Model.

 

Post the model name/number to the list and one of the crew here will see if a keyboard command exists. If there isn’t one and you do need to go into the UEFI setup, Sieghard makes a great point about the Microsoft accessibility team. You might have more luck the second time around.

 

All the best and good luck!

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is there dramatic changes to windows10 most recent version

 

 

 

Hi,

 

None of my function keys work in any Office 2016 applicaation. I had Microsoft Accessibility to see if they could turn off media keys and they couldn’t.

 

Any thoughts of what I could do?

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

Dave Durber
 

Mario:

If Windows 10 is meeting your current needs, then there is no need to upgrade to Windows 11 yet, even if your computer meets the basic requirements of Windows 11. I agree with Brian, you may want to wait for 6 months at least, before deciding to upgrade to Windows 11. I am going to wait for a year at least. There is no hurry to upgrade. As has been stated by myself and others, as of now, Microsoft is going to support Windows 10, and provide security updates to Windows 10, until 2025. When Microsoft stops its support for Windows 10, you will have to upgrade to Windows 11.

Already, I am receiving emails which include Windows 11 and Office 21, and offering me 10%reduction for Office 21 if I upgrade.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?


Dave, if the computer is eligible for Windows 11, the user does not have
to necessarily accept the upgrade?
so does that mean the upgrade is an optional upgrade, and at some point,
do you think it will be forced to upgrade?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Durber [mailto:d.durber@...]
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2021, 7:57 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Morey:

You do not need to upgrade to Windows 11 yet, even if your computer
complies with the basic requirements needed for Windows 11. Windows 10
will be supported until 2025, and maybe for longer than that, therefore,
if you do not wish to upgrade to Windows 11, you can wait for a while,
until Microsoft has eliminated some of the initial bugs and wholes in
Windows 10. Personally, I do not intend upgrading to Windows 11, for a
year at least, even though I have a system which does meet Windows 11
basic requirements.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Morey Worthington"
<worthington@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 11:41 PM
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?


Hi all.

Can I get a real good answer as to why I, or really anyone, would want
to upgrade to W11?

A real good answer. My mind, as weak as it is, just does not see any
reason to do so.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

C

--
Morey Worthington












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moderated Re: What is the best way to use Twitter on a PC?

Feliciano G
 

I like to use chicken nugget for Windows  to go through the feed and create/reply and retweet

Feliciano
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On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:40 AM, Ralph Supernaw via groups.io <rhs@...> wrote:



Thanks for any ideas.

 


moderated What is the best way to use Twitter on a PC?

Ralph Supernaw
 

Thanks for any ideas.

 


moderated Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

 

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:03 AM, crayton Benner wrote:
I honestly think just like with what windows 10 did, we’ll have to except windows 11.
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That's always the case as time marches on.  And not just with Windows.  You use the operating system of your choosing that's supported by the maker of your choosing.

But the makers of the OSes decide what it is that they make and support.  All software is transitory.

At the same time, that's where you'll ultimately have to go if you stay with Windows.  But ultimately and "in the next few months" are very different time frames.  One can stay on Windows 10 for as long as it remains in support, but once Windows 11 is known to be stable, I wouldn't recommend that course of action if your computer hardware can run Windows 11.  There's just no need to feel any sense of rush.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
 

I honestly think just like with what windows 10 did, we’ll have to except windows 11.

On Sep 30, 2021, at 10:00, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

Dave, if the computer is eligible for Windows 11, the user does not have to necessarily accept the upgrade?
so does that mean the upgrade is an optional upgrade, and at some point, do you think it will be forced to upgrade?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Durber [mailto:d.durber@...]
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2021, 7:57 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Morey:

You do not need to upgrade to Windows 11 yet, even if your computer
complies with the basic requirements needed for Windows 11. Windows 10
will be supported until 2025, and maybe for longer than that, therefore,
if you do not wish to upgrade to Windows 11, you can wait for a while,
until Microsoft has eliminated some of the initial bugs and wholes in
Windows 10. Personally, I do not intend upgrading to Windows 11, for a
year at least, even though I have a system which does meet Windows 11
basic requirements.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Morey Worthington"
<worthington@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 11:41 PM
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?


Hi all.

Can I get a real good answer as to why I, or really anyone, would want
to upgrade to W11?

A real good answer. My mind, as weak as it is, just does not see any
reason to do so.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

C

--
Morey Worthington












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moderated Re: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?

Mario
 

Dave, if the computer is eligible for Windows 11, the user does not have to necessarily accept the upgrade?
so does that mean the upgrade is an optional upgrade, and at some point, do you think it will be forced to upgrade?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Durber [mailto:d.durber@...]
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2021, 7:57 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Morey:

You do not need to upgrade to Windows 11 yet, even if your computer
complies with the basic requirements needed for Windows 11.  Windows 10
will be supported until 2025, and maybe for longer than that, therefore,
if you do not wish to upgrade to Windows 11, you can wait for a while,
until Microsoft has eliminated some of the initial bugs and wholes in
Windows 10. Personally, I do not intend upgrading to Windows 11, for a
year at least, even though I have a system which does meet Windows 11
basic requirements.

HTH

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Morey Worthington"
<worthington@...>
To: <jfw@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 11:41 PM
Subject: Can some one give me a answer as to why....W11?


Hi all.

Can I get a real good answer as to why I, or really anyone, would want
to upgrade to W11?

A real good answer. My mind, as weak as it is, just does not see any
reason to do so.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

C

--
Morey Worthington












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moderated Re: Question about Windows Defender

Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

The file name is just “hosts”, there is no extension.  The file can be found in C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\
Since the file has no extension clicking on it will not open the file.  You must perform an “Open with…”.
If you make any changes to the file and save it make sure that it does not save with an extension appended to the file name or you will not be surfing the internet until you correct that problem.  The safest way to edit that file is to use a VI editor, but if you aren’t familiar with using VI you also risk the chance of destroying the file as well.

Jim Weiss



On Sep 30, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:

Jim:
 
What is the full name of the hosts file, and, what is the full path to the folder, where the hosts file is located?.
 
I used Search Everything, to try and locate the Hosts file, without any success.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

If typing Facebook.com into the URL of the browser redirects you to another site it sounds like something/someone has edited your hosts file.
The hosts file is simply a text file and is human readable.
You can even block a user/computer from accessing a website just by adding a line to the hosts file for that profile.
Literally adding one line of text you can redirect a user from one website to another and until you remove that line of text you will continue to be redirected.  The hosts file is profile specific so even installing a new browser will not fix the issue.  There is one hosts file per profile and anytime you hit the internet that file is read.
J
Jim Weiss



On Sep 29, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

That doesn't sound right, no third party should be involved for resetting your Facebook password and if you open a browser and type www.facebook.com or m.facebook.com into the address bar you certainly should end up on

Facebook and not some other site.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 28, 2021 4:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

I assume so  but I don’t know for sure. It is what I have to use to reset my FaceBook password. I guess FaceBook has contracted with them to handle this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

Could you actually explain what this "epsilon" that you get redirected to is?

When I googled it there is a website called episolon.com, the title says "The leader in outcome-based marketing | Epsilon", is that the one?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 28, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

When I type in anything related to FaceBook it takes me to Epsilon to set up my new password. My frustration is this has happened 3 times in about 6 weeks and it is extremely frustrating. I wondered if it could be a virus or something similar.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

If the messages come from Facebook I don't see what it has to do with Windows Defender. You might simply want to go ahead and change it and it will probably fix the issue. I have actually seen notifications in the iOS keychain app where for some less important logins where I have a comparatively simple password it says that this password has been identified to be part of some password leak and I should change it. Maybe the messages from Facebook are for a similar reason.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about Windows Defender

I am running Windows Defender and I keep getting messages from FaceBook to change my password. It has happened 3 times in the last month. I know this is not a JAWS question but does anyone have any suggestions about why this is happening? I have a Windows 10 computer and all Windows updates are current.





moderated planetary hours calendar

Justin Williams
 

Does anyone know an accessible planetary hours app?

 

Thanks,

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Question about Windows Defender

Dave Durber
 


Jim:
 
What is the full name of the hosts file, and, what is the full path to the folder, where the hosts file is located?.
 
I used Search Everything, to try and locate the Hosts file, without any success.

 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

If typing Facebook.com into the URL of the browser redirects you to another site it sounds like something/someone has edited your hosts file.
The hosts file is simply a text file and is human readable.
You can even block a user/computer from accessing a website just by adding a line to the hosts file for that profile.
Literally adding one line of text you can redirect a user from one website to another and until you remove that line of text you will continue to be redirected.  The hosts file is profile specific so even installing a new browser will not fix the issue.  There is one hosts file per profile and anytime you hit the internet that file is read.
J
Jim Weiss



On Sep 29, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

That doesn't sound right, no third party should be involved for resetting your Facebook password and if you open a browser and type www.facebook.com or m.facebook.com into the address bar you certainly should end up on

Facebook and not some other site.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 28, 2021 4:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

I assume so  but I don’t know for sure. It is what I have to use to reset my FaceBook password. I guess FaceBook has contracted with them to handle this.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

Could you actually explain what this "epsilon" that you get redirected to is?

When I googled it there is a website called episolon.com, the title says "The leader in outcome-based marketing | Epsilon", is that the one?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 28, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

When I type in anything related to FaceBook it takes me to Epsilon to set up my new password. My frustration is this has happened 3 times in about 6 weeks and it is extremely frustrating. I wondered if it could be a virus or something similar.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 5:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Windows Defender

If the messages come from Facebook I don't see what it has to do with Windows Defender. You might simply want to go ahead and change it and it will probably fix the issue. I have actually seen notifications in the iOS keychain app where for some less important logins where I have a comparatively simple password it says that this password has been identified to be part of some password leak and I should change it. Maybe the messages from Facebook are for a similar reason.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: September 27, 2021 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about Windows Defender

I am running Windows Defender and I keep getting messages from FaceBook to change my password. It has happened 3 times in the last month. I know this is not a JAWS question but does anyone have any suggestions about why this is happening? I have a Windows 10 computer and all Windows updates are current.



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