Date   

moderated Re: Beta

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I think Len is asking when public beta testing ends and not whether all beta testing ends including the closed private beta testing.

In this case "never" is not the correct answer because I am pretty sure that unlike with iOS where you can continue to be part of the public beta testing process for upcoming releases of iOS 15 like 15.1, 15.2 etc. that once Jaws 2022 is released to the public the public Beta cycle ends.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: September 25, 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Beta

 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Keep in mind that in the upcoming Jaws 2022 release you can now switch Jaws to either the left or right ear while having audio from another application on the opposite ear. If, for example, you use Teams or are on a Zoom call, you could have Jaws speaking on the right ear and have Teams or Zoom coming through the left ear. It's another fantastic feature which shows how Vispero continues to add useful features to Jaws and make it the screenreader of choice for most professionals and people who want the best performance and feature set.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: September 25, 2021 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Ok, perfect! Thanks for letting me know. They certainly sound like a really good pair of earphones and just the ones I am looking for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All the best,

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: David Griffith

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:27 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

They are certainly loud enough for me.

I think the loudest headphones I use.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: 20 September 2021 04:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Good afternoon David Griffith,

 

So you find that these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver wired earphones that you did a review on below are quite loud earphones?

 

I ask this about the loudness of them as I will need a very loud, good pair of wired earphones to use at an incoming calls call centre to hear Jaws clearly in my right-hand side ear so I can use the computer properly, (because I have some hearing loss in my right-hand side ear), while I take care of customer’s inquiries in my left-hand side ear.

 

Any help you can maybe give me on this loudness concern I have about these particular earphones would be so very, very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help I can maybe get with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 

 


moderated Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

Shankar.C <shankar.c@...>
 

Hi,

From the tasks folder, select any messages and click on move to inbox and see what happens.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi Curtis,

 

Thank you very much for your reply.  I'll send it on to my friend.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

How long has this been going, and when did it start? Also, was there any kind of system change or software install which occurred coincident with the problem arising?

 

This kind of problem should be taken up with Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk at 800-936-5900. They seem to be doing a fairly good job these days.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:52 PM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi All,

 

A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,

Task This Computer Only,

whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.

Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 

All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

Hank William Merchant <hank_w@...>
 

 
 
Ok, perfect! Thanks for letting me know. They certainly sound like a really good pair of earphones and just the ones I am looking for.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
All the best,
Kindest regards,
 
Hank
 
 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?
 

 

They are certainly loud enough for me.

I think the loudest headphones I use.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Hank William Merchant
Sent: 20 September 2021 04:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear loud good pair of wired headphones recommendations for a call centre?

 

 

 

Good afternoon David Griffith,

 

So you find that these OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver wired earphones that you did a review on below are quite loud earphones?

 

I ask this about the loudness of them as I will need a very loud, good pair of wired earphones to use at an incoming calls call centre to hear Jaws clearly in my right-hand side ear so I can use the computer properly, (because I have some hearing loss in my right-hand side ear), while I take care of customer’s inquiries in my left-hand side ear.

 

Any help you can maybe give me on this loudness concern I have about these particular earphones would be so very, very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any possible help I can maybe get with this!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

I hesitated to post this here initially as it is a Jaws list.  However given the persistence of interest I did a recent review on a pair of cheap headphones which would meet all these access requirements.

Review

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

 

Occasionally a mainstream product emerges which inadvertently meets all sorts of accessibility needs. The OneOdio Over Ear Headphone certainly do that, despite being described as D. J> Head pones, and their capacity for dual input may make them an important affordable access solution in the workplace.

 

Ironically access was not really considered when these headphones were ordered. They were a Christmas present from my daughter who was most interested in their noise cancelling aspect. The hope was that this would protect both herself and my wife from the sound of NVDA and Jaws leaking out whilst they were listening to the Television.

My deaf ears makes my listening volume loud and can disturb others with leakage.

 

Certainly these headphones reduce leakage and I now receive requests to switch back to them if I am using a different pair.

 

For general usage they are very pleasant wired headphones , with a good powerful bass sound. they are light if slightly bulky for portable usage. They are rated as the number 1 Amazon best seller for D. J Headphones.

They are also very reasonably priced at £34.99.

There are however 3 more important access features of these headphones.

 

The first access plus is the headphone loudness.

Prolonged loud headphone volume is undeniably dangerous for people with normal hearing. People with normal or mildly impaired hearing should heed all the warnings. However for people like me with congenital severe deafness it is essential to find headphones which can pump out volume. Pretty much every year I end up giving away headphones or earphones which are useless as they are just too quiet. Without suitable head pones producing sufficient volume I would be incapable of typing this review, making a pone call or listening to my Audio books Radio and Music.

Luckily these headphones are well capable of providing the necessary pump.

 

The second access capability is that they have sufficient headband tension to enable precise placement adjacent to or over my hearing aids. Lots of head pones are unusable with hearing aids as it is impossible to prevent high pitched feedback whistling without this precise placement.

 

Thirdly and probably most importantly is that these headphones can be used in dual input mode.

There are 2 input ports for the headphones.

The right ear receives an old style 6.5 mm headphone plug which has a normal 3.5mm plug at the other end of the cable. This cable is partly coiled to connect easily over distance too computers and other audio devices.

The left ear receives a small 2.5mm plug which via a shorter cable, connects to a normal 3.5mm plug. This cable includes an inline remote control and mic for playing and pausing, answering phone calls etc. This shorted cable is clearly suitable for connecting to any phone capable of receiving wired headphones.

I have tested this cable with my Google Pixel 4A and my old iPhone SE first generation via a lightning audio cable adapter. It worked as expected with both devices. It also worked with my Victor reader Trek and even paused and played via the remote inline control like the phones.

It received audio from my blind Shell Classic phone and Evo 10 Daisy Player but not surprisingly these devices did not respond to the inline remote control.

 

What I did not immediately appreciate is that it is possible to have both these input sources simultaneously connected.

So whilst I am typing this review I am also connected to my Blind Shell Classic phone. I am able to operate the phone, make and receive calls, all at the same time being able to consult my computer via my screenreader. If I need to make notes whilst listening to a call this is straightforward .

In the past this would be a struggle for me. For example I used to do Internet grocery shopping for my Mother in law, in her 90s. This involved me ringing her but also having to navigate the Sainsburys Web site on my PC. On several occasions I resorted to wearing 2 paris of headphones, one on top the other to try and complete this tricky process.

I would also have found these headphones an invaluable aid in work. In those days I relied on memory, clattering down notes immediately after the call.

More expensive phone and mixing devices were available , I remember using such a device at the RNIB but these headpones are a far easier, cheaper option.

 

I am, in summary, not sure what there is not to like. These are not a blue tooth option which is a plus for me because of issues i can describe another day.

Details from the Amazon Website below, and finally a link  to the UK Amazon below that.

David Griffith

 

OneOdio Over Ear Headphones Studio Wired Bass Headsets with 50mm Driver

Large, 50 millimeter speaker unit drivers combined with neodymium magnets provides stereo Hi-Fi level sound; powerful bass, clear vocal, and crisp high tones form perfect balanced sound.

• A standard-sized 3.5mm plug aux cable with mic are included (make it a headphone with mic. A long, DJ-style 9.8ft cord with 6.35 plug easily reaches from the TV or stereo to your sofa. They both are completely detachable, so that you don't need to spend all hours of the day plugged into your mixer.

• 90° swiveling earcups for single-ear monitoring anytime; self-adjustable and flexible headband delivers a fatigue-free listening experience that can last for hours, perfect for mastering and mixing.

• Luxuriously padded ear cushions are specifically designed for monitor headphones maximum comfort and noise isolation. The headband is adjustable and stretchable for you to find the desired angle you like to fit in.

• With the sleek design and high-end sound quality, OneOdio headphones are made for smart phones, all Androids, tablets, mp3 players, and related devices. OneOdio offers 30 days money back, 24-month guarantee and 24 hours friendly after service

 

Link to Amazon page.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OneOdio-Headphones-Monitoring-Neodymium-Headsets-Standard-Version/dp/B01MZHAX5S

 

I post the below from my blog.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 15 June 2021 16:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

And if you work for a call centre you should talk to your boss regarding a custom solution where you have Jaws on one ear and your phone call on the other. This is definitely possible with wired headsets, probably more difficult with Bluetooth.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

Hank,It sounds like ideally, you want something that would allow you to only use one ear; and what I remember about the Bose is that it would be very difficult to remove the left, or position it so your work headset could be worn.

 

Loudness somewhat depends on your system and the Jaws setting, but if you could use a Bluetooth single ear piece, there are lots of choices from Plantronics.

 

 

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hank William Merchant
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

 

 

Good morning Phillip,

 

I am personally looking for a very loud pair of good earphones so I will be able to hear jaws loud enough in only my right hand side ear, (I have a bit of hearing loss in my right hand side ear), because I will not be able to use my other ear to also hear jaws, because I will need to use my left hand side ear solely to hear properly incoming cusstomer calls and talk to them through a separte one ear headset with a mike at an incoming calls call centre.

 

Can you maybe please tell me if these Bose QC 35 II headphones are quite loud? Any help you can maybe give me with this would be so very much appreciated! Much, much thanks in advance for any help!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kindest regards,

 

Hank

 

 

__ 

 

From: Phillip Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 8:18 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: slightly off topic: over ear headphones recommendations?

 

It helps to know what you are looking to spend. The options at $50 are a lot different than the $300 options.

I personally use the Bose QC 35 II headphones. I have had them for about 3 years now and use them daily. I would estimate I wear them an average of 8 hours a day including weekends. I use them for work and personal use. They have a Bluetooth option, and I do use it, but most of the time I plug them into my computer or iPad. The battery is supposed to last 20 hours if you’re using Bluetooth and 40 hours if they are plugged into a 3.5 jack and you’re just using noise canceling. The foam began coming out of the ear pieces about a year ago, but I replaced them for about $30.

 

 


moderated Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws

Phillip Gross
 

Maxxaudio is audio enhancement software that dell includes. 

Take this with a grain of salt because it’s been a long time since I’ve gotten a laptop from Dell’s business side, but, from what I understand, Dell doesn’t include most of their bloat ware on their business computers. One thing that’s not included is the MaxxaAudio Realtek audio bundle.

For everyone reading this, this probably isn’t your problem if your driver is older than 2020. That’s according to what I heard on the FS podcast. 


moderated Re: Beta

Chris
 

Never!

 

 

From: leonard morris
Sent: 25 September 2021 04:22
To: jaws
Subject: Beta

 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Beta

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

When the version is officially released it goes out of public Beta and in past years that typically has been late October or early November.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of leonard morris
Sent: September 24, 2021 8:22 PM
To: jaws <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Beta

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?


moderated Beta

leonard morris
 

When does the Jaws Beta testing end?


moderated Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

Mike B.
 

Hi Curtis,
 
Thank you very much for your reply.  I'll send it on to my friend.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

How long has this been going, and when did it start? Also, was there any kind of system change or software install which occurred coincident with the problem arising?

 

This kind of problem should be taken up with Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk at 800-936-5900. They seem to be doing a fairly good job these days.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:52 PM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi All,

 

A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,

Task This Computer Only,

whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.

Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 

All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws

David Diamond
 

MaxxAudio?  What exactly is that?  I know there were problems with it, I think however, I don’t know what the problems were exactly.  Oh, it has 3 USB ports and a SD slot apparently.  This means I will not have to use a USB/SD converter. To think all of this was started because someone was selling a used laptop with 500 G SSD and 16 G RAM for $420.00  Only problem was with the conversion from U S dollars to CAD and the percentage Pay Pal takes and shipping and handling, when the bill came in, it was $685.60.  Visa flagged it as fraudulent thus block the payment from going through.    

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws

 

David, You may not have any problems. From what I've read, they don't include the MaxxAudio on their business laptops, and the Latitude is definitely a business laptop.


moderated Re: Outlook and Replies Issue

Curtis Chong
 

How long has this been going, and when did it start? Also, was there any kind of system change or software install which occurred coincident with the problem arising?

 

This kind of problem should be taken up with Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk at 800-936-5900. They seem to be doing a fairly good job these days.

 

With kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:52 PM
To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue

 

Hi All,

 

A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,

Task This Computer Only,

whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.

Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 

All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Search in Excel

 

Kevin,

 

Are you sure your Excel screen is maximized? I didn’t have any issues searching as you described with Excel 2019 and Fusion 2020 with Excel maximized.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search in Excel

 

Hi Kevin

 

I’m not sure about the “mail” interruption you describe. But I’m hoping this tip might help with searching in Excel.

 

  1. Press Control + F and type what you want to find.
  2. Press Enter to start the search.
  3. Press Escape to exit the Find box and be placed on the cell with the first find result.
  4. Press F4 to be placed on the cell with the next result, or Shift + F4 to move to the previous.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 12:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search in Excel

 

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin


moderated Outlook and Replies Issue

Mike B.
 

Hi All,
 
A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest.  Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,
Task This Computer Only,
whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box.
Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? 
All help is greatly appreciated!  Thanks mooy moocho.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 


moderated Re: Search in Excel

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Kevin

 

I’m not sure about the “mail” interruption you describe. But I’m hoping this tip might help with searching in Excel.

 

  1. Press Control + F and type what you want to find.
  2. Press Enter to start the search.
  3. Press Escape to exit the Find box and be placed on the cell with the first find result.
  4. Press F4 to be placed on the cell with the next result, or Shift + F4 to move to the previous.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 12:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search in Excel

 

 

Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

andy.tidwell
 

 

Hello, I haven’t had any problems reading emails here I have noticed that jaws 22 beta has increased the speed of opening emails.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Jaws 2022 is super responsive in Outlook now and please note I am talking about Outlook 2016 via Microsoft 365 which is the most up to date version, but I assume it would be similar in Office 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

No problem with that here.

I Have noticed that the reading of messages when moving up and down the inbox is much improved!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: 23 September 2021 21:44
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Dear Listers:

 

After I downloaded and installed the new JAWS Beta the other night I discovered that it wouldn’t read any e-mail messages.  It will tell me who each message is from, but after I open up each message and try to read the message body the text always appears to be blank.  How many of you have noticed this about the new JAWS Beta and what did you do about it?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Does anyone know about JAWS and a program called Ear Master Pro?

Jim Portillo
 

Howdy,

 

Since this is a list for JAWS users, I thought I’d ask the following.

Has anyone heard of a program called Ear Master Pro? It is a music program that has to do with music theory training. There are various classes, exercises, and workshops within the program that one can do. I downloaded the free version to see how well it would work with JAWS.

I first tried it using my computer with JAWS, and it did not work at all. This was using the latest JAWS version with Windows 10. My guess is that it is super graphic oriented, which surprises me, since so many of the things it does are related to listening.

I then tried it on my iPad and iPhone using VoiceOver, and I got much farther into it and playing demos, but when it was time to do the lessons or exercises, nothing would happen. It would just go back to the home screen.

The program and app doesn’t seem to like screen reading software, like JAWS or even Narrator. However, before jumping the gun and complaining to the makers of the software, I thought I’d ask if anyone on the list has used it and if it has worked for you. I do know that visually, there is a lot on the screen, including menus and other things. So, it’s just JAWS that doesn’t read a single thing, except for the title of the program.

Thanks much.

Jim

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Jaws 2022 is super responsive in Outlook now and please note I am talking about Outlook 2016 via Microsoft 365 which is the most up to date version, but I assume it would be similar in Office 2019.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

No problem with that here.

I Have noticed that the reading of messages when moving up and down the inbox is much improved!

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: 23 September 2021 21:44
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Dear Listers:

 

After I downloaded and installed the new JAWS Beta the other night I discovered that it wouldn’t read any e-mail messages.  It will tell me who each message is from, but after I open up each message and try to read the message body the text always appears to be blank.  How many of you have noticed this about the new JAWS Beta and what did you do about it?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Outlook 2010 has been out of support for a long time and needs to be updated. People really have to specify if they use such old software and I for one won't even attempt to reply or help because it's pointless. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's no different from somebody who is trying to use Jaws 16 or 17 or even Jaws 18 with the latest Windows 10 build.

I am actually glad Microsoft is setting such a relatively high standard for Windows 11, hopefully you can't even install things like Office 2007, 2010 or 2013 on such a computer any more and we know people who have a Windows 11 computer will need Jaws 2022 or whatever latest version of NVDA so this should really help in getting people up to speed. Falling or staying behind for so many years is not worth it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 24, 2021 7:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Hello:

 

Now I understand. You are running Outlook 2010. This being the case, you should report the problem using the JAWS beta report form. I am aware that JAWS 2022 will no longer work with Windows 7, but so far, nothing is being said about older versions of Office. Apologies.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 23, 2021, at 10:58 PM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:



That’s right, Curtis.  When I press Insert+V and then arrow down through the choices I do not find Legacy anywhere.  I also did what you said to do—after hitting Insert+V do a search for Legacy, but nothing is showing up.  The version of Outlook I am using is Outlook 2010.  I realize this is an old version, and I also realize it might be possible Legacy is not with it.  Maybe Legacy came on a more updated Outlook version.  I don’t know.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

So, when you are in Outlook, do you not find Legacy when pressing INSERT+V? Or am I making the wrong assumption about the email program you are using?

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 


On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:



Yes, Curtis.  That is correct.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 6:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Rick:

 

I assumed you were using the public beta of JAWS 2022. Am I not correct?

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 7:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Dear Curtis:

 

Legacy does not appear to be in JAWS 2010.  I did a search for it but nothing popped up.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages

 

Greetings:

 

For those of us who use Outlook, I did learn that there is a legacy mode which (for beta 1 only) needs to be turned on. While in Outlook, Press INSERT+V to get into Quick settings. Search for legacy. Ensure that it is turned on. Now Outlook works like a champ.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong


moderated Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Actually Windows X and Power Options has nothing at all to do with shutdown options, it simply puts you into the settings for power management like when the computer turns off the screen when plugged in or on battery, when to go to sleep etc.
The Windows Key + X menu has a "Shutdown and Sign Out" menu which was mentioned, Windows Key + X followed by U and it is the same menu you get if you press Windows Key + M and then Alt + F4.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: September 24, 2021 6:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

Just another one that I don't think has been mentioned.

Windows X will get you to a menu, arrow down to Power Options from there too.

Just another way of skinning that particular cat.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 23 September 2021 17:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

You press Windows Key or, if you prefer, Control + Escape, then press tab once and then arrow down to the bottom of that list and you will find Power which contains the commands to sign out, sleep, restart and shutdown.
But as I said many times, it is much easier to either press Windows Key + M to minimize to the desktop and then Alt + F4 or Windows Key + X followed by U both methods get you to the same Power menu.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: September 23, 2021 9:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

Hi.

In Windows 10, CTRL+ESC took me to the search box. Hitting DOWN ARROW gave me a list of all the apps. TABbing didn't take me to a shutdown option.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

control+escape is the old school equivalent of pressing the windows key,
therefore Milton is correct.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kevin Minor [mailto:kminor65@outlook.com]
Subject: shutting down my laptop with jaws?
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 7:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Hi.

If the laptop has Windows 10 on it, CTRL+ESC  won't bring up a shutdown
menu.

To shut down a Windows 10 laptop, do the following.

Hit WINDOWS+D to get to the desktop.

Press ALT+F4 to get to the shutdown options.

Hope this helps.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Milton Ota
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?

Find the Insert key and press F4.

If that doesn't work, press Control + Escape and Tab once and arrow down
to Power, press enter and using the arrow key find shutdown.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sabrina
Markel
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:27 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* shutting down my laptop with jaws?

Hello,

I've just received a laptop with Jaws 2021.

I can't figure out how to shut down the laptop.


moderated Re: Help with spell check, please

Lee Anne Atkinson
 

You are welcome.  I do a lot of proof reading and have developed a lot of JAWS tweaks that help.  If you would like to chat you can contact me off list at

 

lee.atkinson@... 

 

Have a great day,

 

Lee Anne

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please

 

Thank you. Thank you. You have saved me from disaster. 😊

 

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please

 

Hi Shirley, 

 

After you tab down to the suggested list and your word is not there, I find I can shift-tab back up to the misspelled word.  The focus is at the end of the word.   I use insert-left arrow, which places the cursor at the beginning of the misspelled word.  I can type the correct word, space once and use ctrl-del to delete the misspelled word.  Hit ALT-C to make the change.   Spell checker moves on to the next error. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Help with spell check, please

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheerfully,

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

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