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Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
David Diamond
MaxxAudio? What exactly is that? I know there were problems with it, I think however, I don’t know what the problems were exactly. Oh, it has 3 USB ports and a SD slot apparently. This means I will not have to use a USB/SD converter. To think all of this was started because someone was selling a used laptop with 500 G SSD and 16 G RAM for $420.00 Only problem was with the conversion from U S dollars to CAD and the percentage Pay Pal takes and shipping and handling, when the bill came in, it was $685.60. Visa flagged it as fraudulent thus block the payment from going through.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
David, You may not have any problems. From what I've read, they don't include the MaxxAudio on their business laptops, and the Latitude is definitely a business laptop.
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Re: Outlook and Replies Issue
Curtis Chong
How long has this been going, and when did it start? Also, was there any kind of system change or software install which occurred coincident with the problem arising?
This kind of problem should be taken up with Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk at 800-936-5900. They seem to be doing a fairly good job these days.
With kind regards,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 5:52 PM To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Outlook and Replies Issue
Hi All,
A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook 2019 with Jaws2021 latest. Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they reply, the reply emails go to a folder called, Task This Computer Only, whereas, all replies use to go to the In Box. Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there suppose to? All help is greatly appreciated! Thanks mooy moocho.
Stay safe & take care. Mike.
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Re: Search in Excel
Kevin,
Are you sure your Excel screen is maximized? I didn’t have any issues searching as you described with Excel 2019 and Fusion 2020 with Excel maximized.
Alan Lemly
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 3:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Search in Excel
Hi Kevin
I’m not sure about the “mail” interruption you describe. But I’m hoping this tip might help with searching in Excel.
All the best.
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin
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Outlook and Replies Issue
Mike B.
Hi All,
A friend is running Win10 latest, Outlook
2019 with Jaws2021 latest. Whenever he sends an email to someone, and they
reply, the reply emails go to a folder called,
Task This Computer Only,
whereas, all replies use to go to the In
Box.
Does anyone have any ideas of what’s going on
here and how to make all replies to his messages go to the In Box like there
suppose to?
All help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
mooy moocho.
Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
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Re: Search in Excel
Ben Moxey
Hi Kevin
I’m not sure about the “mail” interruption you describe. But I’m hoping this tip might help with searching in Excel.
All the best.
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 12:41 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Search in Excel
Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin
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Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
andy.tidwell
Hello, I haven’t had any problems reading emails here I have noticed that jaws 22 beta has increased the speed of opening emails.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 1:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
Jaws 2022 is super responsive in Outlook now and please note I am talking about Outlook 2016 via Microsoft 365 which is the most up to date version, but I assume it would be similar in Office 2019.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
No problem with that here. I Have noticed that the reading of messages when moving up and down the inbox is much improved!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
After I downloaded and installed the new JAWS Beta the other night I discovered that it wouldn’t read any e-mail messages. It will tell me who each message is from, but after I open up each message and try to read the message body the text always appears to be blank. How many of you have noticed this about the new JAWS Beta and what did you do about it?
Rick Miller
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Does anyone know about JAWS and a program called Ear Master Pro?
Jim Portillo
Howdy,
Since this is a list for JAWS users, I thought I’d ask the following. Has anyone heard of a program called Ear Master Pro? It is a music program that has to do with music theory training. There are various classes, exercises, and workshops within the program that one can do. I downloaded the free version to see how well it would work with JAWS. I first tried it using my computer with JAWS, and it did not work at all. This was using the latest JAWS version with Windows 10. My guess is that it is super graphic oriented, which surprises me, since so many of the things it does are related to listening. I then tried it on my iPad and iPhone using VoiceOver, and I got much farther into it and playing demos, but when it was time to do the lessons or exercises, nothing would happen. It would just go back to the home screen. The program and app doesn’t seem to like screen reading software, like JAWS or even Narrator. However, before jumping the gun and complaining to the makers of the software, I thought I’d ask if anyone on the list has used it and if it has worked for you. I do know that visually, there is a lot on the screen, including menus and other things. So, it’s just JAWS that doesn’t read a single thing, except for the title of the program. Thanks much. Jim
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Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Jaws 2022 is super responsive in Outlook now and please note I am talking about Outlook 2016 via Microsoft 365 which is the most up to date version, but I assume it would be similar in Office 2019.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Steven Hicks
Sent: September 23, 2021 2:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
No problem with that here. I Have noticed that the reading of messages when moving up and down the inbox is much improved!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Miller
Dear Listers:
After I downloaded and installed the new JAWS Beta the other night I discovered that it wouldn’t read any e-mail messages. It will tell me who each message is from, but after I open up each message and try to read the message body the text always appears to be blank. How many of you have noticed this about the new JAWS Beta and what did you do about it?
Rick Miller
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Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Outlook 2010 has been out of support for a long time and needs to be updated. People really have to specify if they use such old software and I for one won't even attempt to reply or help because it's pointless. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but it's no different from somebody who is trying to use Jaws 16 or 17 or even Jaws 18 with the latest Windows 10 build. I am actually glad Microsoft is setting such a relatively high standard for Windows 11, hopefully you can't even install things like Office 2007, 2010 or 2013 on such a computer any more and we know people who have a Windows 11 computer will need Jaws 2022 or whatever latest version of NVDA so this should really help in getting people up to speed. Falling or staying behind for so many years is not worth it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Sent: September 24, 2021 7:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
Hello:
Now I understand. You are running Outlook 2010. This being the case, you should report the problem using the JAWS beta report form. I am aware that JAWS 2022 will no longer work with Windows 7, but so far, nothing is being said about older versions of Office. Apologies.
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
That’s right, Curtis. When I press Insert+V and then arrow down through the choices I do not find Legacy anywhere. I also did what you said to do—after hitting Insert+V do a search for Legacy, but nothing is showing up. The version of Outlook I am using is Outlook 2010. I realize this is an old version, and I also realize it might be possible Legacy is not with it. Maybe Legacy came on a more updated Outlook version. I don’t know.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
So, when you are in Outlook, do you not find Legacy when pressing INSERT+V? Or am I making the wrong assumption about the email program you are using?
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
Yes, Curtis. That is correct.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Rick:
I assumed you were using the public beta of JAWS 2022. Am I not correct?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Miller
Dear Curtis:
Legacy does not appear to be in JAWS 2010. I did a search for it but nothing popped up.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Greetings:
For those of us who use Outlook, I did learn that there is a legacy mode which (for beta 1 only) needs to be turned on. While in Outlook, Press INSERT+V to get into Quick settings. Search for legacy. Ensure that it is turned on. Now Outlook works like a champ.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
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Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws?
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Actually Windows X and Power Options has nothing at all to do with shutdown options, it simply puts you into the settings for power management like when the computer turns off the screen when plugged in or on battery, when to go to sleep etc.
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The Windows Key + X menu has a "Shutdown and Sign Out" menu which was mentioned, Windows Key + X followed by U and it is the same menu you get if you press Windows Key + M and then Alt + F4.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: September 24, 2021 6:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws? Just another one that I don't think has been mentioned. Windows X will get you to a menu, arrow down to Power Options from there too. Just another way of skinning that particular cat. All the best Steve -- To subscribe to our News and Special Offers list, go to https://www.comproom.co.uk/subscribe Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@... W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 23 September 2021 17:45 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws? You press Windows Key or, if you prefer, Control + Escape, then press tab once and then arrow down to the bottom of that list and you will find Power which contains the commands to sign out, sleep, restart and shutdown. But as I said many times, it is much easier to either press Windows Key + M to minimize to the desktop and then Alt + F4 or Windows Key + X followed by U both methods get you to the same Power menu. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: September 23, 2021 9:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws? Hi. In Windows 10, CTRL+ESC took me to the search box. Hitting DOWN ARROW gave me a list of all the apps. TABbing didn't take me to a shutdown option. Kevin, Valerie and Jilly -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:17 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws? control+escape is the old school equivalent of pressing the windows key, therefore Milton is correct. -------- Original Message -------- From: Kevin Minor [mailto:kminor65@...] Subject: shutting down my laptop with jaws? Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 7:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Hi. If the laptop has Windows 10 on it, CTRL+ESC won't bring up a shutdown menu. To shut down a Windows 10 laptop, do the following. Hit WINDOWS+D to get to the desktop. Press ALT+F4 to get to the shutdown options. Hope this helps. Kevin, Valerie and Jilly *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Milton Ota *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:12 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: shutting down my laptop with jaws? Find the Insert key and press F4. If that doesn't work, press Control + Escape and Tab once and arrow down to Power, press enter and using the arrow key find shutdown. *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sabrina Markel *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:27 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* shutting down my laptop with jaws? Hello, I've just received a laptop with Jaws 2021. I can't figure out how to shut down the laptop.
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Re: Help with spell check, please
Lee Anne Atkinson
You are welcome. I do a lot of proof reading and have developed a lot of JAWS tweaks that help. If you would like to chat you can contact me off list at
Have a great day,
Lee Anne
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 11:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please
Thank you. Thank you. You have saved me from disaster. 😊
Shirley Tracy
From: Lee Anne Atkinson
Hi Shirley,
After you tab down to the suggested list and your word is not there, I find I can shift-tab back up to the misspelled word. The focus is at the end of the word. I use insert-left arrow, which places the cursor at the beginning of the misspelled word. I can type the correct word, space once and use ctrl-del to delete the misspelled word. Hit ALT-C to make the change. Spell checker moves on to the next error.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Hi everyone,
I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
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Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
Phillip Gross
David, You may not have any problems. From what I've read, they don't include the MaxxAudio on their business laptops, and the Latitude is definitely a business laptop.
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Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
Feliciano G
Philip,
What is the fix for the problem that you speak of?
Feliciano
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On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:16 AM, Phillip Gross <phillip_gross@...> wrote:
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Re: Help with spell check, please
Shirley Tracy
Thank you. Thank you. You have saved me from disaster. 😊
Shirley Tracy
From: Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please
Hi Shirley,
After you tab down to the suggested list and your word is not there, I find I can shift-tab back up to the misspelled word. The focus is at the end of the word. I use insert-left arrow, which places the cursor at the beginning of the misspelled word. I can type the correct word, space once and use ctrl-del to delete the misspelled word. Hit ALT-C to make the change. Spell checker moves on to the next error.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Hi everyone,
I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
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Re: JAWS Beta Will Not Read E-Mail Messages
Curtis Chong
Hello:
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Now I understand. You are running Outlook 2010. This being the case, you should report the problem using the JAWS beta report form. I am aware that JAWS 2022 will no longer work with Windows 7, but so far, nothing is being said about older versions of Office. Apologies. Kind regards, Curtis Chong
On Sep 23, 2021, at 10:58 PM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:
That’s right, Curtis. When I press Insert+V and then arrow down through the choices I do not find Legacy anywhere. I also did what you said to do—after hitting Insert+V do a search for Legacy, but nothing is showing up. The version of Outlook I am using is Outlook 2010. I realize this is an old version, and I also realize it might be possible Legacy is not with it. Maybe Legacy came on a more updated Outlook version. I don’t know.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
So, when you are in Outlook, do you not find Legacy when pressing INSERT+V? Or am I making the wrong assumption about the email program you are using?
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
Yes, Curtis. That is correct.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Rick:
I assumed you were using the public beta of JAWS 2022. Am I not correct?
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rick Miller
Dear Curtis:
Legacy does not appear to be in JAWS 2010. I did a search for it but nothing popped up.
Rick Miller
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Greetings:
For those of us who use Outlook, I did learn that there is a legacy mode which (for beta 1 only) needs to be turned on. While in Outlook, Press INSERT+V to get into Quick settings. Search for legacy. Ensure that it is turned on. Now Outlook works like a champ.
Cordially,
Curtis Chong
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Re: Help with spell check, please
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
I did not see the work around, could you repost it?
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 7:53 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please
Curtis and list,
This works fine in short documents, but in a long one, bringing back spellchecker gets cumbersome and time-consuming. Lee Anne’s suggestion is more practical in such cases. In previous versions of Word, there was an edit field option. I’m happy that she’s found a substitute, which I myself will start using.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Hello:
Press Escape to leave spell check. Fix the word manually, then press F7 again to continue.
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
Hi everyone,
I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
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Re: Help with spell check, please
Adrian Spratt
Curtis and list,
This works fine in short documents, but in a long one, bringing back spellchecker gets cumbersome and time-consuming. Lee Anne’s suggestion is more practical in such cases. In previous versions of Word, there was an edit field option. I’m happy that she’s found a substitute, which I myself will start using.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Curtis Chong
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:44 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Help with spell check, please
Hello:
Press Escape to leave spell check. Fix the word manually, then press F7 again to continue.
Kind regards,
Curtis Chong
Hi everyone,
I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
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Search in Excel
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using the most recent versions of windows10, Office 2016 and Jaws2021. I will be doing a search in Excel using control F. After a few times of pressing the enter key to move to the next find, I’m put into a window that says mail. I have to do a alt tab to get back into the Excel window and it is still on the search function. Why would I be pushed out of the Excel window? What is the window that says mail? I cannot arrow up and down or tab. I go into Jaws cursor and there is nothing on the screen. There are times the same thing happens in Outlook of suddenly being pushed to a window that just says mail. Thanks, Kevin
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Re: Help with spell check, please
Lee Anne Atkinson
Hi Shirley,
After you tab down to the suggested list and your word is not there, I find I can shift-tab back up to the misspelled word. The focus is at the end of the word. I use insert-left arrow, which places the cursor at the beginning of the misspelled word. I can type the correct word, space once and use ctrl-del to delete the misspelled word. Hit ALT-C to make the change. Spell checker moves on to the next error.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 9:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Help with spell check, please
Hi everyone,
I’m using Windows 10, latest version of JAWS, and MS Home and Student 2019. I’m trying to spell check a large document. If a word is spelled wrong, and none of the choices are what I want, but I find the correct spelling of the word, how do I enter it, myself, without getting out of spell check? I’m having trouble with this. Please help.
Thanks in advance.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
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Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
David Diamond
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:16 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Dell laptops freezing or restarting with Jaws
David,
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