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That is correct, I hadn't tried the links assuming they worked. Now I Googled it again and found the below site which goes into much more detail and this time I tried the download link although only the one for the installer and not the portable, but it downloaded fine: https://blindhelp.net/software/virtual-recorder-13
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: September 13, 2021 5:56 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: i meed two links polease. for anyone interested in getting this program, using the address Sieghard provided, I got a file not found message when using Chrome and Firefox. browsing to the following address and activating the download link for the installer and portable versions, I get a 404 message. https://www.saomaicenter.org/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorder-------- Original Message -------- From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...] Subject: i meed two links polease. Date: Monday, September 13, 2021, 8:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Here is all you need to know, found by doing a Google search for "Virtual Recorder": https://www.saomaicenter.org/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorderThequeestion Then of course you have to ask yourself if you need it, not everybody has a use for such a utility. Sent: September 13, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: i meed two links polease. I've never heard of Virtual Recorder. What is it, and how can I get it? Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: i meed two links polease. does anyone have a link to virtual recorder, the one Carlos fixed for us? also i need a link to pontes media downloader please thanks. Jim
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Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
Okay, I just experimented with both Notepad
and Word using several sentences that were at least 10 words in
length.
In both instances the Home key took me to the
beginning of the line I was reading / was highlighted, but the difference
is that I don't have any line breaks. Have you tried changing your speech
and sound scheme to get the results you want? I'm using the Word Classic
scheme in Word and the Classic scheme in Notepad.
Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and
password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
Mike, I'm working with
Word, although I think it happens in notepad too. Imagine a
paragraph with 3 sentences, each 10 words long. Put the cursor in the second
sentence at about 5 words in. The goal is to move the cursor to the start
of the second sentence with one keystroke. JAWS + h will read the second
sentence but not move the cursor. Alt + Up moves the cursor to the start
of the 1st sentence. Home moves the cursor to the most recent line break, which
isn't necessarily the start of the 2nd sentence.
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for anyone interested in getting this program, using the address Sieghard provided, I got a file not found message when using Chrome and Firefox. browsing to the following address and activating the download link for the installer and portable versions, I get a 404 message. https://www.saomaicenter.org/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorder
-------- Original Message -------- From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...] Subject: i meed two links polease. Date: Monday, September 13, 2021, 8:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Here is all you need to know, found by doing a Google search for "Virtual Recorder": https://www.saomaicenter.org/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorderThe queestion Then of course you have to ask yourself if you need it, not everybody has a use for such a utility. Sent: September 13, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: i meed two links polease. I've never heard of Virtual Recorder. What is it, and how can I get it? Bill White billwhite92701@... -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: i meed two links polease. does anyone have a link to virtual recorder, the one Carlos fixed for us? also i need a link to pontes media downloader please thanks. Jim
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Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
Mike, I'm working with Word, although I think it happens in notepad too. Imagine a paragraph with 3 sentences, each 10 words long. Put the cursor in the second sentence at about 5 words in. The goal is to move the cursor to the start of the second sentence with one keystroke. JAWS + h will read the second sentence but not move the cursor. Alt + Up moves the cursor to the start of the 1st sentence. Home moves the cursor to the most recent line break, which isn't necessarily the start of the 2nd sentence.
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi Sieghard Respectfully, I do not think it’s acceptable to discount accessibility enhancements because they only affect a minority. I also think it’s important to advocate for accessibility of mainstream products, rather than just accept shortcomings. This is all I will say on the subject. All the best. Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2021 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume And I should point out that on pretty much every laptop volume keys exist and for sighted people they are clearly identified and of course just about all half-way decent USB keyboards have volume control buttons or a slider or knob. Agreed, Bill. I meant to suggest Windows key + F10 as a mute toggle. I’ll see if I can edit my feedback tonight. I’ve never tried before. In the meantime, those who have JAWS 2018 or later can unmute by pressing JAWS + Escape. Cheers Ben Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound, while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes. Hey Dave Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen reader they’re using. Cheers Ben Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider". Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss. 4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume. Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed. Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hi everyone Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows. For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated. Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement. If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub. Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback Cheers Ben -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Using the Jaws layered command is one option. If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options: If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick. On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively. My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward. Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways: 1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume. 3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere. ----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: raising/lowering computer volume Hi all, Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Here is all you need to know, found by doing a Google search for "Virtual Recorder": https://www.saomaicenter.org/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorderThe queestion Then of course you have to ask yourself if you need it, not everybody has a use for such a utility. Sent: September 13, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: i meed two links polease. I've never heard of Virtual Recorder. What is it, and how can I get it? Bill White billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i meed two links polease.
does anyone have a link to virtual recorder, the one Carlos fixed for us?
also i need a link to pontes media downloader please thanks. Jim
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Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
Mark,
What application are you working with?
These keystrokes are right out of Jaws keystrokes help.
Move to Beginning of Line HOME
Move to
End of Line END
Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what
you're trying to accomplish the Home key should do what you want. Make
sure your screen is maximized.
Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and
password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
The puzzle is still open. Alt + number pad 5 is the same as JAWS
+ h in laptop mode and reads from the start of the current sentence but doesn't
actual move the cursor. The home key moves the cursor to the previous line break
character but not the start of the current sentence. Alt up and alt down works
but is two keystrokes. I guess I should have said I was looking for just one
keystroke.
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
And I should point out that on pretty much every laptop volume keys exist and for sighted people they are clearly identified and of course just about all half-way decent USB keyboards have volume
control buttons or a slider or knob.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: September 13, 2021 3:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Agreed, Bill. I meant to suggest Windows key + F10 as a mute toggle. I’ll see if I can edit my feedback tonight. I’ve never tried before.
In the meantime, those who have JAWS 2018 or later can unmute by pressing JAWS + Escape.
Cheers
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2021 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows
universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound,
while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes.
Hey Dave
Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless
of the hardware or screen reader they’re using.
Cheers
Ben
Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume
2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again
use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type
the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider".
Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss.
4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS
volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume.
Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed.
Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or
DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi everyone
Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts
that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows.
For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and
the most popular/relevant is escalated.
Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot
see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement.
If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty.
Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub.
Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback
Cheers
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Using the Jaws layered command is one option.
If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options:
If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick.
On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations
work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively.
My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and
Forward.
Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways:
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume
mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say
2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts
because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere.
----Original Message-----
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape.
-----Original Message-----
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi all,
Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.
Thanks
Madison
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I don't disagree with this, but playing devil's advocate I should point out that one could then also ask for many more Windows shortcuts for things which can already be done with your screenreader
and which for 99% of users are probably useless because they just click on the little speaker icon with the mouse and do what they need to do. Jaws has both volume and unmuting the soundcard covered since a screen refresh, Jaws Key + Escape, unmutes the default
soundcard and raises the volume to a medium level if the soundcard is muted.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: September 13, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows
universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound,
while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hey Dave
Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless
of the hardware or screen reader they’re using.
Cheers
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2021 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume
2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again
use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type
the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider".
Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss.
4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS
volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume.
Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed.
Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or
DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi everyone
Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts
that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows.
For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and
the most popular/relevant is escalated.
Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot
see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement.
If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty.
Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub.
Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback
Cheers
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Using the Jaws layered command is one option.
If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options:
If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick.
On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations
work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively.
My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and
Forward.
Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways:
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume
mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say
2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts
because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere.
----Original Message-----
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape.
-----Original Message-----
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi all,
Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.
Thanks
Madison
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Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
Hi Mark
Unfortunately, there isn’t a single JAWS keystroke. Very happy to be proven wrong!
Cheers
The puzzle is still open. Alt + number pad 5 is the same as JAWS + h in laptop mode and reads from the start of the current sentence but doesn't actual move the cursor. The home key moves the cursor to the previous line break character but not the start of the current sentence. Alt up and alt down works but is two keystrokes. I guess I should have said I was looking for just one keystroke.
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Re: moving cursor to start of current sentence
The puzzle is still open. Alt + number pad 5 is the same as JAWS + h in laptop mode and reads from the start of the current sentence but doesn't actual move the cursor. The home key moves the cursor to the previous line break character but not the start of the current sentence. Alt up and alt down works but is two keystrokes. I guess I should have said I was looking for just one keystroke.
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Remember that insert+Esc with JAWS turned on will set the volume to 50% even if it is muted.
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At 04:57 PM 9/13/2021, you wrote: Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound, while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes.
Bill White
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hey Dave
Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen reader they’re using.
Cheers
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2021 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume
2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider".
Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss.
4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume.
Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed.
Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
Dave
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From: <mailto:benmoxey@...>Ben Moxey
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi everyone
Great suggestions! Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows.
For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated.
Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement.
If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub.
<https://aka.ms/AAdsct7>Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback
Cheers
Ben
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From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Using the Jaws layered command is one option.
If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options:
If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick.
On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively.
My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward.
Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways:
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere.
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From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape.
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From: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io <<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi all,
Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.
Thanks
Madison
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Re: JAWS2022 Beta Download Link + Much More
Good evening everyone, Just wanted all of you too know, that I was able too get too the episode. It took me a while too get there, but its all good.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 1:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS2022 Beta Download Link + Much More The link Mike provided took you to the parent page, if you had followed the link to episode 203 you would find the activate link. That is how I listened to it last week. Here is the link to that page: FSCast 203, Eric Damery with news about new 2022 product features, and a visit with Cory Jackson – Freedom Scientific Blog Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com Good afternoon everyone, I just went to the link that was provided, but I didn’t see anyware where there was an activate button. I even attempted to expand that button, but with no success. Here is the direct link to the FSCast page: http://blog.freedomscientific.com/fscast/ And here is the link for the MP3 file of the latest FSCast: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/fscast/FSCast203-August2021.mp3 You will have to right click on the link above to download. If you go to the Freedom Scientific website and find the link for FSCast and open that page, you should be able to find a link to download to your computer the MP3 file there. Good morning Mike. Is their a way that you can listen to the latest release about Jaws 2022, without having too subscribe to there podcast? I do receive reminders from time too time when my computer boots up, about the new releases, but I would rather listen then having too download podcasts if I can help it. Okay, below is the Beta download link, the link to the FSCast that provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in this release, and a direct link to the Beta report form to be used to report any bugs in this release, plus what's new in JAWS2022. • FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in the upcoming 2022 release. New Features in 2022
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2022
Automatic Settings Import from Previous Releases When upgrading to a new version of JAWS, any custom settings from a previous release are now automatically imported. This includes features such as speech
and braille display settings, custom scripts, dictionary entries, labeled graphics, and any custom settings you created for applications. Unlike previous
releases, the migration process is now silent (no messages or dialog boxes appear) and begins the first time you start the new version. Custom settings
older than the two previous versions will not be imported. If the import is successful, you will only be prompted to configure JAWS startup options. New Option to Restore Factory Settings Use the Restore to factory settings item, located in the Options menu of the main JAWS application window, to clear all custom settings that were imported
from a previous release or manually configured. Once all settings are removed, JAWS restarts as if it was a brand new installation. Earlier in JAWS and Fusion 2021, we introduced a way for users to lower the volume of JAWS speech independently of system audio to help make it easier
to hear audio from other applications. Version 2022 takes this a step further by now allowing those using stereo headsets or speakers to route all JAWS
or Fusion speech to one ear while routing audio from the current application to the other ear. This helps make it easier to continue getting work done
with JAWS while following along during a Zoom or Teams meeting, a Skype call, or a YouTube video. list of 3 items
1. Make sure focus is in the application that will be playing audio, such as Teams.
2. Press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by V to activate the Volume layer.
3. Press B for Balance, and then do one of the following:
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◦ Press LEFT ARROW to route JAWS Speech to the left and audio from the current application to the right.
◦ Press RIGHT ARROW to route JAWS speech to the right and audio from the current application to the left.
◦ Press UP ARROW to restore both JAWS speech and application audio to both channels.
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list end Note: Before attempting to split your audio, make sure your headset or speakers are properly oriented. For instance, if you route JAWS speech to the left
and instead hear it in your right ear, your headset is most likely reversed. Once you split your JAWS speech and application audio, it remains in effect until you restart JAWS, or use the command to restore the audio balance. Additionally,
once you split the sound in the current application, the split continues even if you move to other applications. For example, if you are attending a meeting
in Teams, you can continue hearing JAWS in one ear as you look up information on a web page in Chrome or write down some notes in Word while listening
to your meeting in the other ear. You can also wake up the Voice Assistant and say “Sound Left,” “Sound Right,” or “Sound Balanced.” Make sure your microphone is not muted before speaking
these commands. You also may not want to use these commands in apps like Teams or Zoom as other meeting participants will hear you. Frequently Asked Questions Q: I use a stereo Bluetooth headset that includes a microphone for participating in Teams and Zoom calls. Can I split the audio in this situation? Answer: No, splitting the audio will not work in a call when using a Bluetooth headset. This is not a JAWS issue. When connecting to a call in Teams or
Zoom, it switches from a headphone device to a headset device. By design, the headset device works as a mono device, so sound splitting does not work.
If you want to split your audio during a call, we recommend using a wired headset. Q: Can I split my audio if I'm using a stereo Bluetooth headset to just listen to music? Answer: Yes. If you are playing audio from another source such as a YouTube video, the sound splitter works as expected even if you are using a Bluetooth
headset. You will only experience issues with splitting audio when connecting to a Teams or Zoom call using a Bluetooth headset as it changes from a stereo
headphone device to a mono headset device. Q: Does the sound splitter work with external speakers? Answer: Yes, JAWS speech and application audio will split as expected if you are using your computer's internal speakers, or you have external speakers
connected. Q: While on a Teams call using my USB headset, I moved over to Notepad to write down some information and decided to split my audio so I could hear JAWS
better. After performing the keystrokes, JAWS was routed to one ear, but the audio from teams is still in both ears. Why did this not work? Answer: In Public Beta 1, you must always make sure you are focused in the application where you want to split the audio. For instance, if you are on a
call in Teams and you move over to Notepad to write down some information and you decide to split the audio so you can hear JAWS better, JAWS speech will
move to one speaker, but the audio from Teams will continue to be heard in both speakers. For Public Beta 2, we are working on making it possible to split
audio while focused in any application. For now, we suggest splitting the audio as soon as you launch the application, whether it is Teams or Zoom, and
then join your call or meeting. Q: I currently have JAWS configured to use a different sound device instead of the Windows default sound card. Will I still be able to split the audio? Answer: At this time, this feature only works for the default sound device. If you attempt to split audio and nothing happens, you may need to use the
Sound Cards option under the JAWS Utilities menu to set JAWS to use the Windows default sound card. We hope to resolve this for Public Beta 2. Voice Assistant Improvements
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• The default wake word for JAWS is now “Hey Sharky,” while the default wake word for ZoomText is now “Hey Zoomy.”
• When running Fusion, you can now say either "Hey Sharky" or "Hey Zoomy" and the voice assistant knows which features are for JAWS or ZoomText and will
do the appropriate action depending on what you asked. Previously, Fusion users could only access ZoomText features using the voice assistant.
• After selecting text with JAWS or Fusion, you can now say “Hey Sharky, Read Selection” to read the selected content, or “Hey Sharky, Append” to append
the selected text to the clipboard.
• Selecting the Settings option from the Voice Assistant submenu in the JAWS Utilities menu now opens a dedicated Voice Assistant Settings dialog box instead
of taking you to Settings Center.
list end Faster Braille Language Switching for Multi-lingual Users For users who speak multiple languages as well as students who are learning another language, JAWS has supported manual and automatic speech synthesizer
language switching for years. For braille display users needing to switch between languages regularly, the process was not as straight forward., You had
to open Settings Center, and select a specific language and translation options each time you wanted to read or enter text using a different language. To help make this easier for multi-lingual braille users, JAWS and Fusion 2022 introduces braille profiles. A braille profile consists of a translator
mode and associated braille tables for input and output in a specific language. This now allows you to switch the braille language on-the-fly from the
main keyboard, braille display, or using automatic language switching in documents or web pages, as we do with speech. You can also link the braille input
language to the keyboard input language so when you press ALT+SHIFT on your computer's keyboard to switch the language used for typing, the Braille input
language switches with it. To configure profile options, a new Language Profiles dialog box has been added to Settings Center under the Braille > General > Translation group. For
users who only use one language, there is no need to use this dialog box as you can still set your input and output translation settings as you always
have in the main Translation group or the Startup Wizard. Setting Up Preferred Profiles To choose your preferred profiles that you can quickly switch between using a keystroke, do the following: list of 6 items
1. Press INSERT+6 on the number row to open Settings Center.
2. To apply changes to all applications, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. Type “profiles” without the quotes into the search edit field.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Language Profiles in the search results in the tree view and press SPACEBAR to open the dialog box. You are placed in a
list of profiles that correspond to all braille languages installed with JAWS.
5. Press SPACEBAR on each profile that you want to select as a preferred profile.
6. Select OK to close the dialog box and once more to close Settings Center.
list end After setting up preferred profiles, you can then use the CTRL+SHIFT+WINDOWS+L keystroke, or DOTS 2-3-4-5-7 CHORD on a Focus braille display, to quickly
switch between profiles if you need to read or type text in different languages. You can also set a primary language profile which is always used when JAWS starts. By default, the primary profile always matches the JAWS language. For
instance, English – United States is always used when running the English version of JAWS. To change the primary profile, open the Language Profiles dialog
box, choose the language profile you want from the list, and then select the Set Primary button. Configuring Translation Options for a Specific Profile To configure braille translation input and output settings for a specific language profile, do the following: list of 5 items
1. Press INSERT+6 on the number row to open Settings Center.
2. To apply changes to all applications, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. Type “profiles” without the quotes into the search edit field.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Language Profiles in the search results in the tree view and press SPACEBAR to open the dialog box. You are placed in a
list of profiles that correspond to all braille languages installed with JAWS.
5. Select the profile you want to configure translation options for and then choose the Details button to open the Profile Details dialog box. Here, you
can:
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◦ Choose the grade of braille to use when reading and typing contracted braille. The available options depend on the currently selected profile. For instance,
Unified English Braille (UEB) Grade 1 or Grade 2 are not available when configuring the Spanish language profile.
◦ Choose which translation mode to use. The available choices are to use Computer Braille for both input and output, Computer Braille for input and Contracted
Braille for Output, or Contracted Braille for both input and output. You can also quickly toggle between translation modes for the active profile by using
DOTS 1-2-4-5-7 CHORD on a Focus braille display.
◦ Select which tables to use if Computer Braille is selected for input or output. This enables you to use different languages for reading and typing text
if needed.
◦ Choose whether or not capital signs are shown on the braille display when viewing Contracted Braille.
◦ Choose whether or not the Liblouis computer braille tables are used when reading or typing in Computer Braille.
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■ After making your changes, select OK to close the Profile Details dialog box and continue selecting OK to close the Language Profiles dialog box and
Settings Center.
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list end Configuring Braille Language Auto Detection If you want JAWS to automatically switch to the appropriate braille language when reading or entering text, do the following: list of 7 items
1. Press INSERT+6 on the number row to open Settings Center.
2. To apply changes to all applications, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
3. Type “profiles” without the quotes into the search edit field.
4. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Language Profiles in the search results in the tree view and press SPACEBAR to open the dialog box.
5. Select the Link braille input language to keyboard language check box to have JAWS use the appropriate braille input language that matches the currently
active keyboard language. For example, if you switch the keyboard language to Spanish (ALT+SHIFT), JAWS automatically switches to Spanish braille, so you
can continue entering text from your display in the correct language.
6. Select the Automatic language detection check box to have JAWS use the appropriate braille language that matches the current language of text in a document
or web page. For example, if JAWS detects text in a document written in Spanish, JAWS automatically switches to displaying the text in Spanish braille
using the translation mode settings configured in the Profile Details dialog box for the Spanish profile.
7. Select OK to close the dialog box and once more to close Settings Center.
list end JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Discontinues Windows 7 and 8.1 Support In order to keep pace with continued advancements in Microsoft Windows technology, JAWS, Fusion, and ZoomText 2022 will no longer install and run on versions
of Windows earlier than Windows 10. We also continue improving support for Windows 11, scheduled for release in the coming months. Versions of our software
will continue to be available for users of older Windows versions from our Previous Downloads web pages. Improved Performance in Microsoft Office Apps JAWS 2022 offers a number of general improvements when working in Office 365 applications. In particular, users should notice increased responsiveness
when navigating Outlook message lists and working with emails, as well as when editing Word documents. Docking the Quick Access Bar By default, the Quick Access Bar is now docked to one of four corners on your screen when you start ZoomText or Fusion. This provides a location for the
Quick Access Bar to return to when it loses focus. It also makes it easy to find when viewing a magnified screen. The bar can be docked in the top right corner, top left corner, lower right corner, or lower left corner of the screen. If you want to change the dock
location, do the following: list of 3 items
1. If the Quick Access Bar is not expanded, click the Show Shortcut Names button to expand the bar. Show Shortcut Names button 2. Click the Customize button and then Preferences. 3. Select Automatically Dock to Screen Corner and select a screen corner in the Corner list.
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• Made numerous performance improvements for ZoomText tracking and navigation in various applications.
• JAWS 2022 includes updated scripts from Corel for WordPerfect 2021.
• For those who create JAWS scripts, added comments at the top of default.jss, so users know how to save a modified copy of this file to their user folder.
• Added a new option to toggle the announcement of text marked as a sugestion in Google Docs. To change this, open Settings Center and locate the Suggested
text announcement check box.
• In the Braille and Text Viewer, changed the default font size to 20. The previous font size of 40 was too large for most users.
• When moving to a new slide in PowerPoint, JAWS no longer says "no selection" prior to speaking the slide info, which was unnecessary speech. Now, JAWS
only announces the slide title and number.
• Added the ALT+Q command to the Windows Keys Help (INSERT+W) which opens the Quick Search feature in Microsoft Office apps.
• JAWS now properly reads the title of the current page in Chrome or Edge when using CTRL+TAB to move between open pages.
list end Stay safe & take care. Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Agreed, Bill. I meant to suggest Windows key + F10 as a mute toggle. I’ll see if I can edit my feedback tonight. I’ve never tried before. In the meantime, those who have JAWS 2018 or later can unmute by pressing JAWS + Escape. Cheers Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2021 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound, while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes. Hey Dave Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen reader they’re using. Cheers Ben Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider". Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss. 4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume. Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed. Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hi everyone Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows. For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated. Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement. If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub. Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback Cheers Ben -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Using the Jaws layered command is one option. If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options: If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick. On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively. My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward. Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways: 1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume. 3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere. ----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: raising/lowering computer volume Hi all, Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hi, Ben. I agree with you concerning adding Windows universal keystrokes to raise and lower system volume. I don't think you have gone far enough, however. I also believe Microsoft should add a Windows universal keystroke that would toggle muting and unmuting the current sound card. It won't do you any good to raise the system volume if some sighted person has muted sound, and you don't know it, or don't know how to get to where you can unmute the sound, while you have no sound to use for navigation purposes.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 2:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hey Dave Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen reader they’re using. Cheers Ben From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2021 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider". Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss. 4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume. Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed. Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hi everyone Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows. For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated. Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement. If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub. Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback Cheers Ben -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Using the Jaws layered command is one option. If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options: If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick. On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively. My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward. Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways: 1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume. 3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere. ----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: raising/lowering computer volume Hi all, Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hello Ben:
Adding those keystrokes to Windows to quickly
increase or decrease the system volume, would definitely benefit me and very
many more Windows users.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:17
PM
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer
volume
Hey
Dave
Thank you and
very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is
to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user
would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen
reader they’re using.
Cheers
Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent:
Monday, 13 September 2021 9:42 PM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer
volume
Ben:
Using
methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible
sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or,
Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up
the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter
and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to
change the volume
2. To directly bring
up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter,
this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and
down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing
the volume.
3. Using the
Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or,
volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting
< System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the
applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or
volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change
the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB
ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right
slider".
Use the UP or
DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system
volume.
Press ALT+F4, to
close the applet.
Using this
method, the volume changes by single digitss.
4. using the JAWS
method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE
BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J,
for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase
or, decrease either volume.
Press ESC or,
ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is
closed.
Using this method,
the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume
changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP
or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Sunday,
September 12, 2021 1:58 AM
Subject: Re:
raising/lowering computer volume
Hi everyone
Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does
not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I
provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback
Hub in Windows.
For those not familiar, the Feedback
Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be
accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by
other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is
escalated.
Anyway, my suggestion was basically
to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that
it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while
adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think
this would be a great accessibility enhancement.
If you agree, please feel free to go
and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately,
it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users
haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link,
you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback
Hub.
Adjusting Windows Volume
Feedback
Cheers
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re:
raising/lowering computer volume
Using the Jaws layered command is one
option.
If you want to raise the overall
volume then there are two additional options:
If you have a keyboard with volume
buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated
volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the
trick.
On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume
down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a
Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume
buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8
and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip
respectively.
My mechanical keyboards at work which
are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on
the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and
buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward.
Lastly, if you don't have any buttons
you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main
ways:
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws
+ F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context
menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2.
To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type
"SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing
enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or
Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. You can create a shortcut for the
volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like
Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever
position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number
row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys
for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are
the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on
the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open
the item from anywhere.
----Original
Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering
computer volume
Use the JAWS layered command
INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to
adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the
adjustment then press Escape.
-----Original
Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: raising/lowering computer
volume
Hi all,
Can someone please remind me how to
raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using
latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.
Thanks
Madison
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Re: raising/lowering computer volume
Hey Dave Thank you and very well explained! I’m aware of these methods. My suggestion to Microsoft is to add universal Windows keystrokes that will adjust volume. That way, a user would know exactly what keys to press, regardless of the hardware or screen reader they’re using. Cheers Ben
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2021 9:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Ben:
Using methods one or two, which Siegard suggests, you get a defined Windows audible sound, and JAWS announces the volume change, when you press the UP or, Down arrow keys to raise and lower the system volume.
1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.
3. Using the Adjust Volume applet. Tap either WINDOWS KEY. Type: adjust volume or, volume in the search edit field and press ENTER. This opens the "Setting < System < Sound, applet. Windows will more than likely delimit to the applet, as soon as you type the first three letters of adjust or volume.
By default, the first item displayed is: "change the device or app volume link".
Press SHIFT+TAB ONCE. JAWS says, "Change device volume left right slider". Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys, to increase or decrease the system volume.
Press ALT+F4, to close the applet.
Using this method, the volume changes by single digitss. 4. using the JAWS method, which came into effect in Version 2021. Press JAWS KEY+SPACE BAR, followed by V, followed by S, for the system volume, or J, for the JAWS volume. Use the UP or, DOWN arrow keys, to increase or, decrease either volume. Press ESC or, ALT+F4. A decending 2-tone is played, and the window is closed. Using this method, the volume increases or decreases by 2 digits. JAWS speaks the volume changes but, there is no Windows audible sound when you press the UP or DOWN arrow keys.
HTH
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:58 AM Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Hi everyone Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows. For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated. Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement. If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub. Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback Cheers Ben -----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Using the Jaws layered command is one option. If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options: If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick. On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively. My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward. Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways: 1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume. 3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere. ----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: raising/lowering computer volume Hi all, Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10. Thanks Madison
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Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV
Does this phone have the option for dictation as with the IPhone? Where is this flip phone purchased and what is the cost?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 4:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV Hi Tim and All! Tim, in response to your below, below under the "* * *" I have pasted the text of the attachment mentioned. * * * The AT&T Cingular Flip IV (“Flip IV”) is a 4G flip phone. It uses the KaiOS operating system. A decent amount of helpful information for it can be found at AT&T’s help page. The user guide (user manual) for the Flip IV can be downloaded from there as well. This document will provide information about the Flip IV’s physical description, its initial setup and some basic operation aspects. The focus here is on the Flip IV’s built-in screen reader app called “Readout” and the operation of the phone with Readout by blind users. The Flip IV does not come with a SIM card. Technically, it uses a Nano Sim card. Nor does the Flip IV come “activated.” You must go to an AT&T store to get the SIM card and activate the phone. Whatever cell phone number you presently have will be transferred to the Flip IV upon activation. That means that your old cell phone will no longer work. The SIM card and activation are provided free of cost by AT&T. However, you may first want to do the Initial Setup (below) and experiment with the phone before you activate it. Beware, if you are moving from one phone to the Flip IV, you may not be able to go back. Until you put a SIM card into the phone and activate it, you cannot make and receive phone calls nor send and receive text messages. But, as explained below, you can fully explore the Flip IV and experiment with it. Physical Description The form factor of the Flip IV is a flip phone. Holding the phone closed and with it facing you, on the front is an LCD display. Just above that LCD display is the phone’s camera. On the left side near the top is a 3.5 mm earbud jack. A bit further down the left side is a micro USB port. On the Right side of the phone near the top is a button to operate the phone’s camera. A bit further down the right side is a volume rocker bar to raise or lower the volume. Opening the Flip IV, the top half is the main LCD display. The lower half is the keypad. Following is a 3X7 table schematically laying-out the Flip IV’s keypad. Menu L / Sft 1 | | Menu R / Sft 2 | Msg | OK/L/R/U/D | Back/Clr | Call/Ans | | End/Pwr | 1 | 2/ABC | 3/DEF | 4/GHI | 5/JKL | 6/MNO | 7/PQRS | 8/TUV | 9/WXYZ | # | 0 | * |
The keys are reasonably large and tactile. The “5” key has a small bump on it. Pressing the “1” key rotates through various punctuation marks and symbols. The “0” key inserts a space. When in a field for alphanumeric entry, pressing the # key rotates around upper case, lower case and numbers. When entering alphanumeric text, you must press the corresponding key the required number of times to enter the correct character. For example, to enter the character “e” you must press the “3” key twice. The actual number, such as “3” requires the “3” key to be pressed four times. The foregoing is how characters are entered when in an alphanumeric field. When in a numeric field, such as when entering an actual phone number, only the actual numbers occur when pressing the respective key. Initial Setup Unboxing the Flip IV, there is the phone itself, a battery, an adapter to plug into a wall electrical power socket and a charging/data cable. There is also a printed quick start guide. As noted above, the Flip IV does not come with a SIM card, nor is it activated. However, after this initial setup, assuming you connect the phone to a WiFi network, you can get familiar with the Flip IV before actually activating it. This is highly recommended. Doing so will make the transition to the Flip IV much easier. Although it may be possible to do blind, for the next initial setup steps sighted assistance is highly recommended. It takes about 10 minutes for a sighted person to complete. After that, sighted assistance is not needed. - The battery must be inserted into the phone. Here is a Youtube video for this. The User Guide and Help Page also have instructions for this. The battery should then be fully charged; which takes a couple of hours.
- Once charged, turn the Flip IV on by pressing and holding the “Send/Pwr” button for a few seconds. You will feel the phone vibrate. This then begins the phone’s basic setup function where language, WiFi, time and such options are chosen. Legal and privacy notices are presented. There is a step here to sign-in or to create a KaiOS account, which can be skipped for now and completed at another time, if desired. Page 10 “Setting up your phone for the first time“ of the User Guide has good instructions for this step.
- The “Readout” app should be turned-on. At the Help Page under Settings>Device>Accessibility you can find out how to do this. A link to this is here.
To turn the Flip IV off, press and hold the “Send/Pwr” key for a couple of seconds. A context menu opens with options to “power off,” “restart,” etc. Basic Operations Once the above initial setup has been completed, sighted assistance is not necessary. When you turn the Flip IV on, Readout will start. If no SIM card has been inserted at this point, a splash screen (“Operator Message”) appears about AT&T “prepaid” accounts. Pressing the “Menu L/Sft 1” key closes this and gets you to the home screen. From the home screen, pressing the “OK” key takes you to the “Apps Home” Screen. You will not hear anything at that point, but you are in fact there. Press the “OK” key up/down navigation keys and you will hear “Apps Home,” “all apps.” From there, you can navigate around the phone’s features. Following are some useful tips: - Under Settings>Personalization>Input Method, turn off a) “Use predictive” and b) “Next Word Suggestion.” These settings interfere with entering and editing text such as text messages, contact information and notes.
- When creating a text message, there are two fields: a) the recipient field and b) the message body field. The recipient field is not labeled, and thus is not spoken by Readout. The message body field, however, is spoken. Since there are only two fields, and since the message body field is spoken, it is obvious that the other field is the recipient field. Use the “OK” button’s up/down navigation keys to move between these two fields.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV Hello Richard, I want to thank you for wanting to share with us the benefits of your work. Unfortunately, there was no attachment to your email. I do not know if attachments are allowed, if not, can the list moderator send it out to us? The other option is for you to place the text into an email to the list. Thanks again, Tim -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 3:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV Hi Tim and All! Indeed, no one knows anything about it, and there is no information on the Internet about it. So, I have had to figure things out myself. Attached with this email is a file called " AT&T Cingular Flip IV Accessibility Guide.docx." it is what I have learned so far. I am not sure if this list allows attachments. Let me know if it does not come through. There are a number of things I should like to learn more about. They include things like reading and editing of text, "quick keys" (e.g., say the battery, signal or other status) and other things. I am about 75% of the way assessing this phone. Only because I must change my phone am I exploring this phone. My current phone is 3G. I use my phone only for basic things like calls, texts and contacts. More than that and I turn to my laptop and JAWS. I do not need a smart phone. To be sure, this phone is rudimentary. But, if it works for my basic needs then I can save hundreds of dollars! This phone is free. I hope you and any others will be able to learn more about this phone, and share it with me. I intend to expand on the guide attached here. If the phone is usable, I will put this guide out on the Internet for the world. HTH, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV I am stuck in the same situation. I took it to an AT&T franchise location, and they told me they knew nothing of this phone and I needed to go to a real AT&T store. That is a long drive. I am stuck with a phone that I cannot even figure out how to turn on and off. Tim Ford > > From: Richard B. McDonald > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:42 AM > To: jfw@groups.io > Subject: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV > > Hi! > > > > I was sent the “AT&T Cingular Flip IV” cellphone recently because my > old cellphone is soon to be incompatible with AT&T’s network. > Apparently, this phone’s OS is “KiaOS” and it has an accessibility feature called “Readout.” > Does anyone know about this cellphone’s accessibility? Does anyone > know where I can find information about “Readout?” Does anyone know > if there is a listing somewhere of key commands (a.k.a., shortcuts) > that can be used for various functions (e.g., time, status, etc.)? > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > > > > >
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Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV
Hi Tim and All! Tim, in response to your below, below under the "* * *" I have pasted the text of the attachment mentioned. * * * The AT&T Cingular Flip IV (“Flip IV”) is a 4G flip phone. It uses the KaiOS operating system. A decent amount of helpful information for it can be found at AT&T’s help page. The user guide (user manual) for the Flip IV can be downloaded from there as well. This document will provide information about the Flip IV’s physical description, its initial setup and some basic operation aspects. The focus here is on the Flip IV’s built-in screen reader app called “Readout” and the operation of the phone with Readout by blind users. The Flip IV does not come with a SIM card. Technically, it uses a Nano Sim card. Nor does the Flip IV come “activated.” You must go to an AT&T store to get the SIM card and activate the phone. Whatever cell phone number you presently have will be transferred to the Flip IV upon activation. That means that your old cell phone will no longer work. The SIM card and activation are provided free of cost by AT&T. However, you may first want to do the Initial Setup (below) and experiment with the phone before you activate it. Beware, if you are moving from one phone to the Flip IV, you may not be able to go back. Until you put a SIM card into the phone and activate it, you cannot make and receive phone calls nor send and receive text messages. But, as explained below, you can fully explore the Flip IV and experiment with it. Physical Description The form factor of the Flip IV is a flip phone. Holding the phone closed and with it facing you, on the front is an LCD display. Just above that LCD display is the phone’s camera. On the left side near the top is a 3.5 mm earbud jack. A bit further down the left side is a micro USB port. On the Right side of the phone near the top is a button to operate the phone’s camera. A bit further down the right side is a volume rocker bar to raise or lower the volume. Opening the Flip IV, the top half is the main LCD display. The lower half is the keypad. Following is a 3X7 table schematically laying-out the Flip IV’s keypad. Menu L / Sft 1 | | Menu R / Sft 2 | Msg | OK/L/R/U/D | Back/Clr | Call/Ans | | End/Pwr | 1 | 2/ABC | 3/DEF | 4/GHI | 5/JKL | 6/MNO | 7/PQRS | 8/TUV | 9/WXYZ | # | 0 | * |
The keys are reasonably large and tactile. The “5” key has a small bump on it. Pressing the “1” key rotates through various punctuation marks and symbols. The “0” key inserts a space. When in a field for alphanumeric entry, pressing the # key rotates around upper case, lower case and numbers. When entering alphanumeric text, you must press the corresponding key the required number of times to enter the correct character. For example, to enter the character “e” you must press the “3” key twice. The actual number, such as “3” requires the “3” key to be pressed four times. The foregoing is how characters are entered when in an alphanumeric field. When in a numeric field, such as when entering an actual phone number, only the actual numbers occur when pressing the respective key. Initial Setup Unboxing the Flip IV, there is the phone itself, a battery, an adapter to plug into a wall electrical power socket and a charging/data cable. There is also a printed quick start guide. As noted above, the Flip IV does not come with a SIM card, nor is it activated. However, after this initial setup, assuming you connect the phone to a WiFi network, you can get familiar with the Flip IV before actually activating it. This is highly recommended. Doing so will make the transition to the Flip IV much easier. Although it may be possible to do blind, for the next initial setup steps sighted assistance is highly recommended. It takes about 10 minutes for a sighted person to complete. After that, sighted assistance is not needed. - The battery must be inserted into the phone. Here is a Youtube video for this. The User Guide and Help Page also have instructions for this. The battery should then be fully charged; which takes a couple of hours.
- Once charged, turn the Flip IV on by pressing and holding the “Send/Pwr” button for a few seconds. You will feel the phone vibrate. This then begins the phone’s basic setup function where language, WiFi, time and such options are chosen. Legal and privacy notices are presented. There is a step here to sign-in or to create a KaiOS account, which can be skipped for now and completed at another time, if desired. Page 10 “Setting up your phone for the first time“ of the User Guide has good instructions for this step.
- The “Readout” app should be turned-on. At the Help Page under Settings>Device>Accessibility you can find out how to do this. A link to this is here.
To turn the Flip IV off, press and hold the “Send/Pwr” key for a couple of seconds. A context menu opens with options to “power off,” “restart,” etc. Basic Operations Once the above initial setup has been completed, sighted assistance is not necessary. When you turn the Flip IV on, Readout will start. If no SIM card has been inserted at this point, a splash screen (“Operator Message”) appears about AT&T “prepaid” accounts. Pressing the “Menu L/Sft 1” key closes this and gets you to the home screen. From the home screen, pressing the “OK” key takes you to the “Apps Home” Screen. You will not hear anything at that point, but you are in fact there. Press the “OK” key up/down navigation keys and you will hear “Apps Home,” “all apps.” From there, you can navigate around the phone’s features. Following are some useful tips: - Under Settings>Personalization>Input Method, turn off a) “Use predictive” and b) “Next Word Suggestion.” These settings interfere with entering and editing text such as text messages, contact information and notes.
- When creating a text message, there are two fields: a) the recipient field and b) the message body field. The recipient field is not labeled, and thus is not spoken by Readout. The message body field, however, is spoken. Since there are only two fields, and since the message body field is spoken, it is obvious that the other field is the recipient field. Use the “OK” button’s up/down navigation keys to move between these two fields.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 9:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV Hello Richard, I want to thank you for wanting to share with us the benefits of your work. Unfortunately, there was no attachment to your email. I do not know if attachments are allowed, if not, can the list moderator send it out to us? The other option is for you to place the text into an email to the list. Thanks again, Tim -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 3:56 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV Hi Tim and All! Indeed, no one knows anything about it, and there is no information on the Internet about it. So, I have had to figure things out myself. Attached with this email is a file called " AT&T Cingular Flip IV Accessibility Guide.docx." it is what I have learned so far. I am not sure if this list allows attachments. Let me know if it does not come through. There are a number of things I should like to learn more about. They include things like reading and editing of text, "quick keys" (e.g., say the battery, signal or other status) and other things. I am about 75% of the way assessing this phone. Only because I must change my phone am I exploring this phone. My current phone is 3G. I use my phone only for basic things like calls, texts and contacts. More than that and I turn to my laptop and JAWS. I do not need a smart phone. To be sure, this phone is rudimentary. But, if it works for my basic needs then I can save hundreds of dollars! This phone is free. I hope you and any others will be able to learn more about this phone, and share it with me. I intend to expand on the guide attached here. If the phone is usable, I will put this guide out on the Internet for the world. HTH, Richard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV I am stuck in the same situation. I took it to an AT&T franchise location, and they told me they knew nothing of this phone and I needed to go to a real AT&T store. That is a long drive. I am stuck with a phone that I cannot even figure out how to turn on and off. Tim Ford > > From: Richard B. McDonald > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:42 AM > To: jfw@groups.io > Subject: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV > > Hi! > > > > I was sent the “AT&T Cingular Flip IV” cellphone recently because my > old cellphone is soon to be incompatible with AT&T’s network. > Apparently, this phone’s OS is “KiaOS” and it has an accessibility feature called “Readout.” > Does anyone know about this cellphone’s accessibility? Does anyone > know where I can find information about “Readout?” Does anyone know > if there is a listing somewhere of key commands (a.k.a., shortcuts) > that can be used for various functions (e.g., time, status, etc.)? > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > > > > >
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I've never heard of Virtual Recorder. What is it, and how can I get it?
Bill White
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: i meed two links polease.
does anyone have a link to virtual recorder, the one Carlos fixed for us?
also i need a link to pontes media downloader please thanks. Jim
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