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moderated Re: back to working inside cells

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

People really have to disclose all information when they ask a question, e.g. Windows version, screenreader and the version as well as the version of the application they are asking about.
Office 2007 has been long out of support and is not supported under Windows 10 and neither is Office 2010. Office 2013 I think still is although it is probably out of support by now and really nobody should be using anything except Office 2016 or 2019 as the stand-alone version or of course Office via a Microsoft 365 subscription as that one is always up to date. For the most part I wouldn't even try to figure out why something doesn't work in Office 2007 for the simple reason that I can't even try to reproduce the issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: September 12, 2021 7:50 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: back to working inside cells

Hi all.

I am hopeing that what I am about to reveal, and I am really embarrassed about it, clears up my problem.

I am using Office 7 for all my Excel work and it works fine.

Could this be the reason why I cannot do what I asked about, editing in cells,  has probably confused things??

If the answer is yes, I am really sorry for having you fine folks working hard to find solution.

If not the problem, will keep on working at it.

Sorry again,

Thanks

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Update to Starbucks issue from about 6 weeks ago

Ken Chernack
 

Good day.

Here’s a brief update to my problem of trying to join a Starbucks promotion on my PC using Office365, Outlook and latest Jaws version. If you remember the ‘Join’ button became inaccessible to Jaws.

 

First, the problem has disappeared, with no acknowledgement from Starbucks that they changed the verbiage in their promotion emails from having a Join button to a sentence saying click on the following link to register for the promotion.

 

Who knows if my emails caused the change, but the good news is that it seems to be fixed.

 

Second, and I am now on my soap box…

Solving a technical problem via a general call desk is not a great business model.

Did you hear that message Sparrow/Freedom Scientific employees?

Please , do not take away your human technical support from us. It is excellent that you have other menu

Options in your telephone menu system for Sales, Billing and other support!

 

I had to tell my story to the Starbucks rep who sent an email to their tech support and then many days later I would receive a reply that most often did not address my issue. Ugh!

 

Do you feel my pain!

 

Thanks for listening… case closed!

onward to my next order of gruyere cheese with beacon Egg Bites and an iced caramel macchiato upside down for breakfast!

 

Ken

A happier SBUX stockholder

 

 


moderated Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Oops, but one thing that doesn't work is if the link was made by someone running an insider version of Windows when they made a given Feedback report, and that does appear to be the case here.  I get a warning that I do not have access, and there is no way to grant access to an "insider feedback report" to someone not part of the Windows Insider program.

The error message clearly indicates the feedback exists, but I don't have access to it.  So in that sense, it doesn't work unless you happen to be a Windows Insider running an Insider Build when you attempt to access it.  Right now, that's not me, and it's not likely to ever be me again, as I dropped out of being an active Windows Insider several years back.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

The link, Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback, to the Feedback Hub does work.

If it's your first time using a direct-to-Feedback-Hub link you will have a step in your default web browser where you'll have a dialog box asking if you want to allow the feedback hub to be automatically opened in the future for this kind of link, and it makes sense to answer that in the affirmative.  It should open right after you do.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: raising/lowering computer volume

Zel Iscel
 

Hi Ben,

 

The link to your feedback doesn’t work. Can you please re-post?

Thank you.

 

 

Zel Iscel

Principal Consultant

Inclusive World

 

Mob: 0413813885

Eml: zel@...

Web: www.inclusiveworld.com.au

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben Moxey
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 8:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Hi everyone

 

Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows.

 

For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated.

 

Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement.

 

If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub.

 

Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Using the Jaws layered command is one option.

If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options:

 

If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick.

On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively.

My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward.

 

Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways:

1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.

3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere.

 

 

----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin

Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Hi all,

Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.

Thanks

Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated back to working inside cells

Morey Worthington
 

Hi all.

I am hopeing that what I am about to reveal, and I am really embarrassed about it, clears up my problem.

I am using Office 7 for all my Excel work and it works fine.

Could this be the reason why I cannot do what I asked about, editing in cells,  has probably confused things??

If the answer is yes, I am really sorry for having you fine folks working hard to find solution.

If not the problem, will keep on working at it.

Sorry again,

Thanks

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Adrian Spratt
 

JM,

 

I’m glad you and others with more updated information chimed in. I haven’t needed to install either JRE or Access Bridge for years and never on this computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hey Adrian and all…

 

That is  a really really old version of Java Access Bridge. It was supposed to be incorporated into Java Runtime Environment after that version, and this was pre-Windows 10 days. So, I would not install this version, which is indeed still available, but instead, download the latest Java Runtime Environment, and see if you can find  the file jabswitch.exe in the “bin” directory.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: September 10, 2021 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi. I haven’t dealt with Access Bridge for a long time, but no one else has responded so here are what I hope will be a few pointers.

 

Notes for one of the JAWS 19 releases indicates that JAWS has been updated to work with Access Bridge as currently configured.

 

What I always think of as Java Access Bridge may have changed its name to Windows Access Bridge. Originally developed by Sun Micro Systems, the last I knew, it was owned by Oracle.

 

Here are some notes I made to myself a few years ago, so they may not be current:

 

As Mike B suggested, there is a download link. It's hard to find, but this link should take you to the actual download page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jab-2-0-2-download-354311.html

Note that before the download link is displayed, you must check the box accepting Oracle's license agreement, which appears on that page. Once you've checked it, Oracle will graciously thank you and produce the link. Some arrowing down is required.

Once I clicked on the link, I followed Mike's suggestion of selecting “open” instead of “save.”

 

To ensure the information is current, maybe Google “Access Bridge,” locate a download link, and install it. It ought to work with JAWS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Bill White
 

Hi, Jaffar. I did what you said. I installed JRE64-bit. I copied the JAVA Access Bridge.dll file to my System32 directory. When I went to the commandline, and entered,

 

jabswitch -enable

 

I received the same error,

 

'jabswitch.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,                                                  

operable program or batch file.                                                                                          

 

It appears that when I am in commandline mode, the jabswitch.exe file, which is located in,

 

C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_301\bin

 

is not in the path.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi Vaughan.  I forgot to list one more crucial step.  I sent the missing procedure to Bill White but here it is in case you miss it.  After you install Java,  you need to navigate to your java\bin directory.  This can be typically found in your C:\Program Files folder if you install Java 64Bit, or, C:\program files (X86) if you have java 32Bit installed.  Here's where you have to pay particular attention.

If it is java 64Bit you have installed, copy the WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll from the Java\Jre\bin to your C:\Windos\System32 subdirectory.  On the other hand, if you have java 32bit installed, then copy the WindowsAccessBridge.dll from your Java\Jre\Bin directory to your C:\Windows\SysWow64 subdirectory.  After completing those steps, go to your command line and type

java -version to do an installation check, then

jabswitch.exe -enable to enable access bridge.

You might want to restart your pc to ensure the windowsAccessBridge.dll is registered to your pc before enabling accessbridge itself.  Cheers and let me know how it goes.

On 12/9/2021 5:45 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Great: thank you Jaffar.

 

Hope to make progress during today using your instructions.

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2021 5:04 pm
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Vaughan Dodd
 

Great, and I am seeing the conversation unfold.

 

Maybe my last query: once I have completed the install as you have described, I presume I can run my music grooming software in the usual Windows way and Access Bridge stays invisible to me but interacts as required with my applications.

 

Thanks.

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 1:56 pm
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi Vaughan.  I forgot to list one more crucial step.  I sent the missing procedure to Bill White but here it is in case you miss it.  After you install Java,  you need to navigate to your java\bin directory.  This can be typically found in your C:\Program Files folder if you install Java 64Bit, or, C:\program files (X86) if you have java 32Bit installed.  Here's where you have to pay particular attention.

If it is java 64Bit you have installed, copy the WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll from the Java\Jre\bin to your C:\Windos\System32 subdirectory.  On the other hand, if you have java 32bit installed, then copy the WindowsAccessBridge.dll from your Java\Jre\Bin directory to your C:\Windows\SysWow64 subdirectory.  After completing those steps, go to your command line and type

java -version to do an installation check, then

jabswitch.exe -enable to enable access bridge.

You might want to restart your pc to ensure the windowsAccessBridge.dll is registered to your pc before enabling accessbridge itself.  Cheers and let me know how it goes.

On 12/9/2021 5:45 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Great: thank you Jaffar.

 

Hope to make progress during today using your instructions.

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2021 5:04 pm
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Adding a note to this, there are now open source java alternatives to that of oracles.  There is the open Java and the Adopt Open java which is supported by Microsoft.  Cheers!

On 12/9/2021 8:09 am, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Adrian and all…

 

That is  a really really old version of Java Access Bridge. It was supposed to be incorporated into Java Runtime Environment after that version, and this was pre-Windows 10 days. So, I would not install this version, which is indeed still available, but instead, download the latest Java Runtime Environment, and see if you can find  the file jabswitch.exe in the “bin” directory.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: September 10, 2021 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi. I haven’t dealt with Access Bridge for a long time, but no one else has responded so here are what I hope will be a few pointers.

 

Notes for one of the JAWS 19 releases indicates that JAWS has been updated to work with Access Bridge as currently configured.

 

What I always think of as Java Access Bridge may have changed its name to Windows Access Bridge. Originally developed by Sun Micro Systems, the last I knew, it was owned by Oracle.

 

Here are some notes I made to myself a few years ago, so they may not be current:

 

As Mike B suggested, there is a download link. It's hard to find, but this link should take you to the actual download page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jab-2-0-2-download-354311.html

Note that before the download link is displayed, you must check the box accepting Oracle's license agreement, which appears on that page. Once you've checked it, Oracle will graciously thank you and produce the link. Some arrowing down is required.

Once I clicked on the link, I followed Mike's suggestion of selecting “open” instead of “save.”

 

To ensure the information is current, maybe Google “Access Bridge,” locate a download link, and install it. It ought to work with JAWS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi Vaughan.  I forgot to list one more crucial step.  I sent the missing procedure to Bill White but here it is in case you miss it.  After you install Java,  you need to navigate to your java\bin directory.  This can be typically found in your C:\Program Files folder if you install Java 64Bit, or, C:\program files (X86) if you have java 32Bit installed.  Here's where you have to pay particular attention.

If it is java 64Bit you have installed, copy the WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll from the Java\Jre\bin to your C:\Windos\System32 subdirectory.  On the other hand, if you have java 32bit installed, then copy the WindowsAccessBridge.dll from your Java\Jre\Bin directory to your C:\Windows\SysWow64 subdirectory.  After completing those steps, go to your command line and type

java -version to do an installation check, then

jabswitch.exe -enable to enable access bridge.

You might want to restart your pc to ensure the windowsAccessBridge.dll is registered to your pc before enabling accessbridge itself.  Cheers and let me know how it goes.

On 12/9/2021 5:45 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Great: thank you Jaffar.

 

Hope to make progress during today using your instructions.

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2021 5:04 pm
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV

Tim Ford
 

I am stuck in the same situation. I took it to an AT&T franchise location, and they told me they knew nothing of this phone and I needed to go to a real AT&T store. That is a long drive. I am stuck with a phone that I cannot even figure out how to turn on and off.

Tim Ford


From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV

Hi!



I was sent the “AT&T Cingular Flip IV” cellphone recently because my
old cellphone is soon to be incompatible with AT&T’s network.
Apparently, this phone’s OS is “KiaOS” and it has an accessibility feature called “Readout.”
Does anyone know about this cellphone’s accessibility? Does anyone
know where I can find information about “Readout?” Does anyone know
if there is a listing somewhere of key commands (a.k.a., shortcuts)
that can be used for various functions (e.g., time, status, etc.)?



Thanks,

Richard







moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi Bill.  Sorry I forgot to mention one crucial step.  Navigate to your java installation.  This should be in your c:\Program Files\java\jre\bin, or something similar.  press W until you get to the WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll.  Copy the file to your C:\Windows\System32.

Now go back to your command line and type

jabswitch.exe -enable

and you should be good to go.  You might want to restart your pc after you copy the WindowsAccessBridge-64.dll to make sure the dll is registered to your system first, then enable your accessBridge as directed earlier.  Let me know.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 3:12 pm, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Jaffar. I made a mistake in my last post about installing Java Access Bridge. I will amend my procedure as follows. I typed the last command correctly on the commandline, but I didn't type it correctly in the last email. I should change it as follows,

 

Hi, Jaffar. I attempted to install the Java runtime environment, 64-bit to enable Java Access Bridge.

 

I am using,

Microsoft Windows

Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1202)

© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

The Windows 10 Home operating system and its user interface are

protected by trademark and other pending or existing intellectual property

rights in the United States and other countries/regions.

This product is licensed under the Microsoft Software License

Terms to:

Windows User

It is the 64-bit version of Windows.

 

I am using JAWS,

Home Use Edition

Version 2021.2107.12 ILM 

 

When I run the command,

 

java -version

 

I receive the following message,

 

java version "1.8.0_301"                                                                                               

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_301-b09)                                                                   

Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.301-b09, mixed mode)                                                       

                                                                                                                         

When I then run the command,

 

jabswitch.exe -enable,

 

I receive the following message,

 

'jabswitch.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,                                                  

operable program or batch file.                                                                                        

 

 

From your instructions below, what am I doing wrong?

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: raising/lowering computer volume

Ben Moxey
 

Hi everyone

 

Great suggestions! 😊 Personally, I've always found it frustrating that Windows does not have universal keyboard shortcuts that adjust volume. Coincidentally, I provided this feedback to Microsoft about two weeks back via the Feedback Hub in Windows.

 

For those not familiar, the Feedback Hub is an official way to provide feedback directly to Microsoft and can be accessed by pressing Windows key + Alt + F. Feedback can then be voted on by other Windows users and the most popular/relevant is escalated.

 

Anyway, my suggestion was basically to set Windows key + F11 and F12 to adjust system volume. I also stated that it would be great to have an optional sound effect that plays while adjusting volume for those who cannot see the visual representation. I think this would be a great accessibility enhancement.

 

If you agree, please feel free to go and view my feedback and give it a vote via the link below. Unfortunately, it can be tricky to have feedback like this recognised because most users haven't experienced this difficulty. Note that when you activate the link, you will get a message asking you if it’s ok to open Feedback Hub.

 

Adjusting Windows Volume Feedback

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Using the Jaws layered command is one option.

If you want to raise the overall volume then there are two additional options:

 

If you have a keyboard with volume buttons this would be one of the easiest ways, if there are no dedicated volume buttons or on a laptop, often FN + a Function Key will do the trick.

On my Asus laptop FN + F11 is volume down, FN + F12 is volume up and FN + F10 is Mute/Unmute. I often use a Logitech K780 keyboard with my laptop and since it has no dedicated volume buttons or knob, the same key combinations work, furthermore, FN + F7, F8 and F9 are media keys for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward/Skip respectively.

My mechanical keyboards at work which are from a company called "Das Keyboard" have a really nice round knob on the top right of the keyboard and next to it a Mute/Unmute button and buttons for Rewind, Play/Pause and Forward.

 

Lastly, if you don't have any buttons you can bring up the computer's volume mixer in two main ways:

1. Bring up the system tray with Jaws + F11, arrow down to your speaker icon, press enter and from the context menu select volume mixer. Then use up and down arrow to change the volume 2. To directly bring up the volume mixer press the Windows Key and type "SndVol" and press enter, this stands for "sound volume" and after pressing enter you again use up and down arrow to change the volume, press enter or Escape to exit after changing the volume.

3. You can create a shortcut for the volume mixer and either put it on the desktop and create a shortcut like Control + Shift + V or put the shortcut on the taskbar, move it to whichever position you want, let's say 2, and then use Windows Key + 2 on the number row to open it. Windows Key + keys 1 through 0 are the Windows shortcut keys for opening applications 1 through 10 on the taskbar and in my opinion are the best option for your most used applications or shortcuts because once on the taskbar you don't have to create a keyboard shortcut and you can open the item from anywhere.

 

 

----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong

Sent: September 10, 2021 5:47 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Use the JAWS layered command INSERT+SPACE then v. Enter s after that to adjust the system volume or j to adjust the JAWS volume. Use the up and down arrow keys to make the adjustment then press Escape.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin

Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:35 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: raising/lowering computer volume

 

Hi all,

Can someone please remind me how to raise/lower the volume on my computer? I can't remember how to do it. Using latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10.

Thanks

Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi. the command is jabswitch.exe -enable

Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 2:56 pm, Bill White wrote:

 

 

Hi, Jaffar. I attempted to install the Java runtime environment, 64-bit to enable Java Access Bridge.

 

I am using,

Microsoft Windows

Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1202)

© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

The Windows 10 Home operating system and its user interface are

protected by trademark and other pending or existing intellectual property

rights in the United States and other countries/regions.

This product is licensed under the Microsoft Software License

Terms to:

Windows User

It is the 64-bit version of Windows.

 

I am using JAWS,

Home Use Edition

Version 2021.2107.12 ILM 

 

When I run the command,

 

java -version

 

I receive the following message,

 

java version "1.8.0_301"                                                                                               

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_301-b09)                                                                  

Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.301-b09, mixed mode)                                                       

                                                                                                                         

When I then run the command,

 

jab.exe -enable,

 

I receive the following message,

 

'jab.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,                                                        

operable program or batch file.                                                                                          

 

From your instructions below, what am I doing wrong?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

JM Casey
 

Hey Adrian and all…

 

That is  a really really old version of Java Access Bridge. It was supposed to be incorporated into Java Runtime Environment after that version, and this was pre-Windows 10 days. So, I would not install this version, which is indeed still available, but instead, download the latest Java Runtime Environment, and see if you can find  the file jabswitch.exe in the “bin” directory.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: September 10, 2021 11:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi. I haven’t dealt with Access Bridge for a long time, but no one else has responded so here are what I hope will be a few pointers.

 

Notes for one of the JAWS 19 releases indicates that JAWS has been updated to work with Access Bridge as currently configured.

 

What I always think of as Java Access Bridge may have changed its name to Windows Access Bridge. Originally developed by Sun Micro Systems, the last I knew, it was owned by Oracle.

 

Here are some notes I made to myself a few years ago, so they may not be current:

 

As Mike B suggested, there is a download link. It's hard to find, but this link should take you to the actual download page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jab-2-0-2-download-354311.html

Note that before the download link is displayed, you must check the box accepting Oracle's license agreement, which appears on that page. Once you've checked it, Oracle will graciously thank you and produce the link. Some arrowing down is required.

Once I clicked on the link, I followed Mike's suggestion of selecting “open” instead of “save.”

 

To ensure the information is current, maybe Google “Access Bridge,” locate a download link, and install it. It ought to work with JAWS.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: editing inside excel cell

Morey Worthington
 

Thanks again Ben. Will try undo it again and see what happens. Thanks all for your interest and help and will see how things go. Hope to get back with more updates be they good or bad.

TC for now.

--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: editing inside excel cell

Ben Moxey
 

Hi everyone

I do think the individual sheet is the problem. I too have no issues doing
as described with JAWS and direct editing in cells turned on. However, the
situation Morey described is a well-known issue experienced by JAWS and NVDA
users with some spread sheets, and disabling the ability to edit directly in
cells is a well-known fix. It does not cause any problem. In fact, the
editing experience is exactly the same for a screen reader user.

Morey, I'm surprised this didn't work. Can you go back into the advanced
options and double-check that "Allow editing directly in cells" is unticked?
Then, close Excel and re-open your spread sheet. Also, ensure the window is
maximise with Windows + up arrow.

If you're still having no luck, I like Richard's idea of contacting
Microsoft's accessibility support desk.

Cheers and good luck!

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 2:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: editing inside excel cell

Hi Alan,
Our posts have crossed but you will see that I don't think it is a Jaws
version. I can edit a cell with multiple email addresses quite easily and
I'm running Jaws 2021, latest update, etc. I'm using the Microsoft 365
version of Excel but that shouldn't matter.
I never uncheck the allow editing in cells, otherwise you have a mess in my
experience.

I use Tom Enhanced from Vocalizer, but will be surprised if it is a
synthesizer issue.

It could be this is a monster huge excel file and the computer is slowing
down, who knows....

This is one that if it continues, asking on the office list might get a good
answer, but having Microsoft accessibility log into the machine and see
exactly what is happening might be the next best thing. 800-936-5900

Later,



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
- Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: editing inside excel cell

Morey,

I've read through the posts on this thread but haven't been following it
closely. I'll first say that I'm using Fusion 2020 and Excel 2019 and the
latest version of Windows 10 Home. And I've not disabled in-cell editing
which others have suggested. I'll also suggest that you subscribe to the
Office-accessibility@groups.io list by sending a blank email to
office-accessibility+subscribe@groups.io. I think you might get better
assistance from that list.

I expect that Chris might be right that this could be a JAWS version issue.

I had no problems editing a cell containing email addresses whether they
were in one cell separated by spaces and whether they were hyperlinks or
regular text. After pressing F2, I was able to press the home key and cycle
through character by character with Fusion feedback. And I used your
worthington@wi.rr.com email address three times in one cell for this test.

Just out of curiosity, do you get a different result when you place one
email address in a cell by itself? I'm not a fan of loading up a single cell
with a lot of content of any type but I'm not here to debate procedural
issues. I'm just curious whether you get a different result with only one
email address in a cell and what JAWS says when you put focus in that cell
and if editing it is any different.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: editing inside excel cell

Hi Ben and all, I am back.

Doing as you recommended, after doing that, went back into cell by using
F2 key, and in there I still cannot get jaws to tell me where I am in the
cell. I cannot get it to recognize anything. let alone get it to delete,
etc.

Here is what is in cell..Email addresses each followed by a space, then
another one, etc.

Example...(worthington@wi.rr.com, ) then followed by another and so on.

If I have to change a letter in it or even a number, no can do. . Any other
thoughts, or as others have recommended, just copy it, do the editing a
editor of choice then re-insert it?

I am lost...

Thanks


--
Morey Worthington


moderated Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

Vaughan Dodd
 

Great: thank you Jaffar.

 

Hope to make progress during today using your instructions.

 

 

Vaughan.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2021 5:04 pm
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and Java Access Bridge

 

Hi.  You first need to install the Java runtime environment which you can get from the oracle website.  A search on google will yield you the needed result.  Choose the one for your windows environment, 32 or 64bit.  Install it as you would a normal application or program.  Once installed, go to your command line.

Type the following to see if you got the JRE correctly installed:

java -version

This will tell you if you got the correct version installed.

If it is, then type the following:

jabswitch.exe -enable

You should here the message telling you that the java access bridge has been enabled.  You should then be good to go.  Write me privately if you have any more concerns.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2021 6:26 am, Vaughan Dodd wrote:

Hello everyone.

 

I am not sure how to solve my problem, but hopefully someone with more expertise than I can point me in the right direction.

 

I am currently evaluating a music library grooming application called Songkong. It comes recommended by a specialist retailer of premium audio equipment.

 

When I load, it refers to problems because Access Bridge is not installed. The error reports this, so Windows is telling SongKong that there is a screen reader.

 

Is Access Bridge a tool for software developers, a utility for end-users or something else. If I download it, what happens to Jaws? Anything else that I should be aware of?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Vaughan.

 

 


moderated Re: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV

Kelly Pierce
 

Don’t mess with this piece of obsolete hardware. If you want a cheap
accessible cell phone that is 4G compatible, go for a used iPhone 7.
You will get iOS 15 and likely the next iOS after that, if the 6s is
any indication. Accessibility is outstanding with enormous
functionality.

Kelly

On 9/11/21, T. Civitello <tcivi31@comcast.net> wrote:
After perusing the manual I don’t think it is the right manual or it
doesn’t have full readout. Tom

From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 8:42 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: OT - Accessibility of AT&T Cingular Flip IV

Hi!



I was sent the “AT&T Cingular Flip IV” cellphone recently because my old
cellphone is soon to be incompatible with AT&T’s network. Apparently, this
phone’s OS is “KiaOS” and it has an accessibility feature called “Readout.”
Does anyone know about this cellphone’s accessibility? Does anyone know
where I can find information about “Readout?” Does anyone know if there is
a listing somewhere of key commands (a.k.a., shortcuts) that can be used for
various functions (e.g., time, status, etc.)?



Thanks,

Richard






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