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moderated Re: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

Joseph could you way in on people being forced to upgrade to 11. I. E. Not having a choice. I posted a link and an article that made it clear that it is a seeker based upgrade no one would be automatically upgraded. have you found the same thing?

Randy Barnett

On Sep 6, 2021, at 4:57 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

They are not the same thing. The story is a bit more complicated than that (I thought I wrote an explanation similar to the below one on a different list a while ago, but looks like I may need to revisit that one in the future):

The goal of Windows 10 series was to unify all sorts of device classes under the same operating system concept. This is why, over the last few years, different kinds of devices such as PC’s, smartphones, Xbox, Surface Hub, HoloLens, servers, IoT (Internet of Things) and many others were advertised as running on Windows 10. Apart from smartphones (Windows 10 Mobile is a flop), other device categories were more successful.

In 2019, Microsoft announced Windows 10 X, a version of Windows 10 designed for foldable devices. Since these devices were mainly targeted at schools, it was supposed to be more secure than other Windows 10 flavors. But things didn’t work out that way: difficulty with justifying the concept (foldables versus laptops), along with the COVID-19 pandemic and changed expectations of enterprises (remote workplace and security) led to evaporation of Windows 10 X in 2021. But not all was lost: several components that were supposed to become Windows 10 X such as the new user interface was recycled into Windows 11. At least this should explain why folks were skeptical of Windows 11 when it launched, especially because of updated system requirements and the revamped user interface.

As for Windows 10 Version 21H2, it is based on Version 2004 (last year) with backports from older Windows 11 code, or rather, from what is considered old Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. For almost two years, Windows Insiders on the dev channel were testing builds that were not tied to stable releases. This was done to prepare now scrapped Windows 10 X and to look for features that can be backported to older releases. In fact, Windows 10 Version 20H2 includes features that were tested by Insiders throughout early 2020 such as switching between Edge tabs by pressing Alt+Tab. Version 21H1 includes internal changes designed for enterprises, while 21H2 includes Linux GPU Compute support in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) which was a change introduced months ago in Insider Preview builds. All these features are built on top of Windows 10 Version 2004 (build 19041) with flags indicating which features should be active on a given “feature update” – in a way, everyone running Version 2004/20H2/21H1 with September 1, 2021 optional cumulative update is running what could be described as Version 21H2 (build 19044) although new features are locked until an enablement package is released in a few weeks.

As much as Windows 10/11 Version 21H2 are different, they are distant cousins. Both report themselves as Windows NT 10.0 (for programmers), started out their lives as Windows 10, and will run programs (including screen readers) happily (including 32-bit programs on 64-bit Windows) although updates are required from programs to improve support for Windows 11.

Hope this clarifies a lot.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:41 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 



While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Re: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

well Brian keeps telling everybody windows 11 it's just windows 10  21H2. So I thought I'd give everyone the correct information from Microsoft. And thanks for the additional clarification.

Randy Barnett

On Sep 6, 2021, at 4:57 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:



Hi,

They are not the same thing. The story is a bit more complicated than that (I thought I wrote an explanation similar to the below one on a different list a while ago, but looks like I may need to revisit that one in the future):

The goal of Windows 10 series was to unify all sorts of device classes under the same operating system concept. This is why, over the last few years, different kinds of devices such as PC’s, smartphones, Xbox, Surface Hub, HoloLens, servers, IoT (Internet of Things) and many others were advertised as running on Windows 10. Apart from smartphones (Windows 10 Mobile is a flop), other device categories were more successful.

In 2019, Microsoft announced Windows 10 X, a version of Windows 10 designed for foldable devices. Since these devices were mainly targeted at schools, it was supposed to be more secure than other Windows 10 flavors. But things didn’t work out that way: difficulty with justifying the concept (foldables versus laptops), along with the COVID-19 pandemic and changed expectations of enterprises (remote workplace and security) led to evaporation of Windows 10 X in 2021. But not all was lost: several components that were supposed to become Windows 10 X such as the new user interface was recycled into Windows 11. At least this should explain why folks were skeptical of Windows 11 when it launched, especially because of updated system requirements and the revamped user interface.

As for Windows 10 Version 21H2, it is based on Version 2004 (last year) with backports from older Windows 11 code, or rather, from what is considered old Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. For almost two years, Windows Insiders on the dev channel were testing builds that were not tied to stable releases. This was done to prepare now scrapped Windows 10 X and to look for features that can be backported to older releases. In fact, Windows 10 Version 20H2 includes features that were tested by Insiders throughout early 2020 such as switching between Edge tabs by pressing Alt+Tab. Version 21H1 includes internal changes designed for enterprises, while 21H2 includes Linux GPU Compute support in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) which was a change introduced months ago in Insider Preview builds. All these features are built on top of Windows 10 Version 2004 (build 19041) with flags indicating which features should be active on a given “feature update” – in a way, everyone running Version 2004/20H2/21H1 with September 1, 2021 optional cumulative update is running what could be described as Version 21H2 (build 19044) although new features are locked until an enablement package is released in a few weeks.

As much as Windows 10/11 Version 21H2 are different, they are distant cousins. Both report themselves as Windows NT 10.0 (for programmers), started out their lives as Windows 10, and will run programs (including screen readers) happily (including 32-bit programs on 64-bit Windows) although updates are required from programs to improve support for Windows 11.

Hope this clarifies a lot.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:41 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 



While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Re: VLC

Orlando Enrique Fiol
 

At 12:30 PM 9/5/2021, lali wrote:
I have 2 jobs, and the second job has soo much things, that jaws
better offers, than NVDA.
But for my first job, am wondering, if there would be a
possibility, that jfw reads the time in vlc. I need for example know, where is an error in a file, for example 34 min, 25 sec..
Is there a possibility, that jfw announces it?

Yes sir! Simply invoke the JAWS touch cursor with insert+numberpaad-enter,, then arrow or tab around VLC's main window. This is not the most elegant solution, but it works. You can also read the status bar very well with Narrator, which is of course included with Windows.
Also, since NVDA is free, you should be able to install it on the same work computers where you use JAWS. However, I don't know which stipulations or regulations your employers impose regarding software installation. I do know, though, that JAWS can read all portions of VLC's windows with the touch cursor.

Orlando Enrique Fiol
Charlotte, North Carolina
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
Home: (980) 585-1516
Mobile: (267) 971-7090


moderated Re: introduction, and question

John Covici
 

If you buy the Leasey script from hartgen.org you will get this
functionality.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 12:30:11 -0400,
lali wrote:

Dear all!


    I am Lajos, am from Hungary, and hungarians could not answer me.

I have 2 jobs, and the second job has soo much things, that jaws
better offers, than NVDA.

    But for my first job, am wondering, if there would be a
possibility, that jfw reads the time in vlc. I need for example
know, where is an error in a file, for example 34 min, 25 sec..

Is there a possibility, that jfw announces it?

Many thanks!

Lali






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Jeff Lukacsena: e-mail to subscribe to the Apple list

Jeff Lukacsena
 

Hello List,

I just used the link in Richard e-mail regarding subscribing to the Apple the list.

The e-mail to subscribe to the Apple list is: BlindApples+subscribe@groups.io

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Laura Richardson
 

You're welcome! ...... It's a great list!

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Apple iPhone list

Hello Laura, thanks for the plug. I've already posted the subscription info.
And I will approve all subscriptions as they come in.
On Sep 5, 2021, at 9:58 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@groups.ios

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well.
Hope this helps.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone
mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom














moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Joseph Hudson
 

Hello Laura, thanks for the plug. I've already posted the subscription info. And I will approve all subscriptions as they come in.

On Sep 5, 2021, at 9:58 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@groups.ios

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well. Hope this helps.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom














moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Joseph Hudson
 

You could subscribe to the following email address by sending a blank message to

BlindApples+subscribe@groups.io

On Sep 5, 2021, at 8:39 PM, tom x <ballistic719@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom








moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Laura Richardson
 

Richard,

 

You are correct.  Thank you for catching my mistake and providing the correct information.

 

Laura

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 11:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Apple iPhone list

 

i think Laura meant BlindApples at groups.io

here is the web page for the group which has the subscribe address etc.

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

website:  www.turner42.com

 



On Sep 5, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@...

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well.  Hope this helps.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom














moderated Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

Ben Moxey
 

Hi Rosie

 

The JAWS key is either Insert or Caps Lock, depending on the keyboard layout you use. 😊

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2021 6:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

 

Ben where is the kiy of Press Jaws at?

 

thanks Rosie

 

From: Ben Moxey

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 7:02 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

 

Hi Addison

 

Press JAWS + Control+ V (for Victor) twice quickly from within Firefox. This will present the version information in the virtual viewer so you can copy it using standard text editing commands.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello there

I’m asking  how can I get what version of firefox I’m using to copy  clipboard  so I can tell you all what version of firefox I have ?  I hope you understand  what I’m asking

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello,

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Are you wanting a specific version of Firefox for your computer? Generally, Firefox will automatically upgrade about every 6 weeks.

There are ways to reduce this or prevent automatic updates, and there are also ways to download a specific version of Firefox though generally, I would recommend against doing that.

 

Jonathan C. Cohn 

On Sep 3, 2021, at 17:11, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

HiAl 

How cnI gtndcopy the erin ffirfxI h? Becae Jaw I tradigprorl on fif 

Addison

 


moderated introduction, and question

lali
 

Dear all!


    I am Lajos, am from Hungary, and hungarians could not answer me.

I have 2 jobs, and the second job has soo much things, that jaws better offers, than NVDA.

    But for my first job, am wondering, if there would be a possibility, that jfw reads the time in vlc. I need for example know, where is an error in a file, for example 34 min, 25 sec..

Is there a possibility, that jfw announces it?

Many thanks!

Lali


moderated Re: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 

Hi,

They are not the same thing. The story is a bit more complicated than that (I thought I wrote an explanation similar to the below one on a different list a while ago, but looks like I may need to revisit that one in the future):

The goal of Windows 10 series was to unify all sorts of device classes under the same operating system concept. This is why, over the last few years, different kinds of devices such as PC’s, smartphones, Xbox, Surface Hub, HoloLens, servers, IoT (Internet of Things) and many others were advertised as running on Windows 10. Apart from smartphones (Windows 10 Mobile is a flop), other device categories were more successful.

In 2019, Microsoft announced Windows 10 X, a version of Windows 10 designed for foldable devices. Since these devices were mainly targeted at schools, it was supposed to be more secure than other Windows 10 flavors. But things didn’t work out that way: difficulty with justifying the concept (foldables versus laptops), along with the COVID-19 pandemic and changed expectations of enterprises (remote workplace and security) led to evaporation of Windows 10 X in 2021. But not all was lost: several components that were supposed to become Windows 10 X such as the new user interface was recycled into Windows 11. At least this should explain why folks were skeptical of Windows 11 when it launched, especially because of updated system requirements and the revamped user interface.

As for Windows 10 Version 21H2, it is based on Version 2004 (last year) with backports from older Windows 11 code, or rather, from what is considered old Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. For almost two years, Windows Insiders on the dev channel were testing builds that were not tied to stable releases. This was done to prepare now scrapped Windows 10 X and to look for features that can be backported to older releases. In fact, Windows 10 Version 20H2 includes features that were tested by Insiders throughout early 2020 such as switching between Edge tabs by pressing Alt+Tab. Version 21H1 includes internal changes designed for enterprises, while 21H2 includes Linux GPU Compute support in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) which was a change introduced months ago in Insider Preview builds. All these features are built on top of Windows 10 Version 2004 (build 19041) with flags indicating which features should be active on a given “feature update” – in a way, everyone running Version 2004/20H2/21H1 with September 1, 2021 optional cumulative update is running what could be described as Version 21H2 (build 19044) although new features are locked until an enablement package is released in a few weeks.

As much as Windows 10/11 Version 21H2 are different, they are distant cousins. Both report themselves as Windows NT 10.0 (for programmers), started out their lives as Windows 10, and will run programs (including screen readers) happily (including 32-bit programs on 64-bit Windows) although updates are required from programs to improve support for Windows 11.

Hope this clarifies a lot.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:41 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 



While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

i think Laura meant BlindApples at groups.io
here is the web page for the group which has the subscribe address etc.
https://groups.io/g/BlindApples



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
  




website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 5, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@...

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well.  Hope this helps.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom















moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Laura Richardson
 

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@groups.ios

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well. Hope this helps.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated Trouble with edit fields JFW & Brave

ann
 

Hi folks,

Does anyone use the Brave browser? I'm using latest Brave with the latest JFW2021 and latest windows10. And I'm having much trouble with edit fields on web pages, especially multi-line edit fields. Jaws will give the appropriate sound and say "Forms Mode Activated", But I cannot read in them and many times I cannot write or erase what I've written in them. And often when I use the arrow keys to try and review text, the focus will jump outside of the text field altogether to the nearest links.

I haven't seen browser behavior like this in literally years.

This only happens in the Brave browser and no other, not Chrome, Edge or Firefox. It does not always happen and not always even on the same sites. It also happens whether I use JFW, NVDA or even Narrator, so it looks more like a brave issue.

Is there something I need to turn off or on in Brave to help fix this issue? I have tried to uninstall and re-install Brave, but no luck. Brave is supposed to be chromium based, but I never had this issue with Chrome.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Ann


moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

clarence carter
 

I have found this list to be very helpful.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated Apple iPhone list

tom x
 

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated anyone have portable virtual recorder 64 bit

Mario
 

I had a copy, but can't find it on my hard drive.


moderated Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

meow meow
 

Ben where is the kiy of Press Jaws at?
 
thanks Rosie

From: Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

Hi Addison

 

Press JAWS + Control+ V (for Victor) twice quickly from within Firefox. This will present the version information in the virtual viewer so you can copy it using standard text editing commands.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello there

I’m asking  how can I get what version of firefox I’m using to copy  clipboard  so I can tell you all what version of firefox I have ?  I hope you understand  what I’m asking

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello,

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Are you wanting a specific version of Firefox for your computer? Generally, Firefox will automatically upgrade about every 6 weeks.

There are ways to reduce this or prevent automatic updates, and there are also ways to download a specific version of Firefox though generally, I would recommend against doing that.

 

Jonathan C. Cohn 

On Sep 3, 2021, at 17:11, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

HiAl 

How cnI gtndcopy the erin ffirfxI h? Becae Jaw I tradigprorl on fif 

Addison

 

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