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moderated introduction, and question

lali <l2belteki@...>
 

Dear all!


    I am Lajos, am from Hungary, and hungarians could not answer me.

I have 2 jobs, and the second job has soo much things, that jaws better offers, than NVDA.

    But for my first job, am wondering, if there would be a possibility, that jfw reads the time in vlc. I need for example know, where is an error in a file, for example 34 min, 25 sec..

Is there a possibility, that jfw announces it?

Many thanks!

Lali


moderated Re: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 

Hi,

They are not the same thing. The story is a bit more complicated than that (I thought I wrote an explanation similar to the below one on a different list a while ago, but looks like I may need to revisit that one in the future):

The goal of Windows 10 series was to unify all sorts of device classes under the same operating system concept. This is why, over the last few years, different kinds of devices such as PC’s, smartphones, Xbox, Surface Hub, HoloLens, servers, IoT (Internet of Things) and many others were advertised as running on Windows 10. Apart from smartphones (Windows 10 Mobile is a flop), other device categories were more successful.

In 2019, Microsoft announced Windows 10 X, a version of Windows 10 designed for foldable devices. Since these devices were mainly targeted at schools, it was supposed to be more secure than other Windows 10 flavors. But things didn’t work out that way: difficulty with justifying the concept (foldables versus laptops), along with the COVID-19 pandemic and changed expectations of enterprises (remote workplace and security) led to evaporation of Windows 10 X in 2021. But not all was lost: several components that were supposed to become Windows 10 X such as the new user interface was recycled into Windows 11. At least this should explain why folks were skeptical of Windows 11 when it launched, especially because of updated system requirements and the revamped user interface.

As for Windows 10 Version 21H2, it is based on Version 2004 (last year) with backports from older Windows 11 code, or rather, from what is considered old Windows 10 Insider Preview builds. For almost two years, Windows Insiders on the dev channel were testing builds that were not tied to stable releases. This was done to prepare now scrapped Windows 10 X and to look for features that can be backported to older releases. In fact, Windows 10 Version 20H2 includes features that were tested by Insiders throughout early 2020 such as switching between Edge tabs by pressing Alt+Tab. Version 21H1 includes internal changes designed for enterprises, while 21H2 includes Linux GPU Compute support in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) which was a change introduced months ago in Insider Preview builds. All these features are built on top of Windows 10 Version 2004 (build 19041) with flags indicating which features should be active on a given “feature update” – in a way, everyone running Version 2004/20H2/21H1 with September 1, 2021 optional cumulative update is running what could be described as Version 21H2 (build 19044) although new features are locked until an enablement package is released in a few weeks.

As much as Windows 10/11 Version 21H2 are different, they are distant cousins. Both report themselves as Windows NT 10.0 (for programmers), started out their lives as Windows 10, and will run programs (including screen readers) happily (including 32-bit programs on 64-bit Windows) although updates are required from programs to improve support for Windows 11.

Hope this clarifies a lot.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:41 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

 



While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Clarification win10 21h2 and wn11.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

While we are excited for the next generation of Windows with Windows 11, we are     also focused on supporting the more than 1.3 billion monthly active devices on Windows 10. Today, we are introducing the next feature update to Windows 10: Windows 10, version 21H2. Windows continues to play an important role in people’s lives as they continue to work, learn and have fun in hybrid and remote environments. Our goal is to provide new features and functionality via a fast and reliable update experience to help keep people and organizations protected and productive. Version 21H2 will continue the recent feature update trend of being delivered in an optimized way using servicing technology. Today I will share details on scope, how we plan to service the release and next steps.

Updated features delivered in a fast, familiar way

Windows 10, version 21H2 will have a scoped set of features focused on productivity and security, prioritized to meet our customers’ needs based on feedback. New features focused on productivity, management and security include:

  • Adding WPA3 H2E standards support for enhanced Wi-Fi security
  • Windows Hello for Business introduces a new deployment method called cloud trust to support simplified passwordless deployments and achieve a deploy-to-run state within a few minutes
  • GPU compute support in the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and Azure IoT Edge for Linux on Windows (EFLOW) deployments for machine learning and other compute intensive workflows

Given the continuation of increased PC engagement for remote and hybrid play, learning and work, we will deliver Windows 10, version 21H2 using servicing technology (like that used for the monthly update process). For consumer or commercial users with devices running version 2004 or later, the Windows 10, version 21H2 update will have a fast installation experience. As this Windows 10 release is targeted for the second half of 2021, Home and Pro editions of version 21H2 will receive 18 months of servicing, and Enterprise and Education editions will have 30 months of servicing. In addition, we will also launch the next version of the Windows 10 Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) based on version 21H2 at the same time, and it will have five years of servicing as announced in February. More information can be found in my recent Windows lifecycle and servicing update, and we’ll have more news on future updates at a later date.

Next steps

Our launch approach for version 21H2 continues to fully leverage the Windows Insider Program to obtain user feedback and data insights on quality. Today we will begin releasing 21H2 builds to Windows Insiders who were moved to the Release Preview channel from the Beta channel because their specific devices did not meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. This enables them to instead experience the latest innovations and enhancements in Windows 10 (note Insiders will not see new features noted in this blog right away, but in future Insider builds as they are ready). Broad availability of Windows 10, version 21H2 will begin later in the second half of this calendar year. We will provide more information on this release and the next Windows 10 LTSC release (including the next IoT Enterprise LTSC release) in the near term. You can always find the latest Windows servicing and update information on the Windows release health hub, now available in 10 languages.


moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

i think Laura meant BlindApples at groups.io
here is the web page for the group which has the subscribe address etc.
https://groups.io/g/BlindApples



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner 
  




website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 5, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Laura Richardson <laurakr65@...> wrote:

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@...

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well.  Hope this helps.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom















moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

Laura Richardson
 

Hello, Tom,

blindapples@...

This email list has been extremely helpful to me and many others as well. Hope this helps.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated Trouble with edit fields JFW & Brave

ann
 

Hi folks,

Does anyone use the Brave browser? I'm using latest Brave with the latest JFW2021 and latest windows10. And I'm having much trouble with edit fields on web pages, especially multi-line edit fields. Jaws will give the appropriate sound and say "Forms Mode Activated", But I cannot read in them and many times I cannot write or erase what I've written in them. And often when I use the arrow keys to try and review text, the focus will jump outside of the text field altogether to the nearest links.

I haven't seen browser behavior like this in literally years.

This only happens in the Brave browser and no other, not Chrome, Edge or Firefox. It does not always happen and not always even on the same sites. It also happens whether I use JFW, NVDA or even Narrator, so it looks more like a brave issue.

Is there something I need to turn off or on in Brave to help fix this issue? I have tried to uninstall and re-install Brave, but no luck. Brave is supposed to be chromium based, but I never had this issue with Chrome.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
~Ann


moderated Re: Apple iPhone list

clarence carter
 

I have found this list to be very helpful.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/viphone/topics

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Apple iPhone list

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated Apple iPhone list

tom x <ballistic719@...>
 

Hi,


Could someone inform me of the subscription details for a good iPhone mailing list for blind users?



Thanks


Tom


moderated anyone have portable virtual recorder 64 bit

Mario
 

I had a copy, but can't find it on my hard drive.


moderated Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

meow meow
 

Ben where is the kiy of Press Jaws at?
 
thanks Rosie

From: Ben Moxey
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of Firefox ?

Hi Addison

 

Press JAWS + Control+ V (for Victor) twice quickly from within Firefox. This will present the version information in the virtual viewer so you can copy it using standard text editing commands.

 

All the best.

 

Ben

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 10:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello there

I’m asking  how can I get what version of firefox I’m using to copy  clipboard  so I can tell you all what version of firefox I have ?  I hope you understand  what I’m asking

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2021 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws2021 How can I copy the version of firefox ?

 

Hello,

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Are you wanting a specific version of Firefox for your computer? Generally, Firefox will automatically upgrade about every 6 weeks.

There are ways to reduce this or prevent automatic updates, and there are also ways to download a specific version of Firefox though generally, I would recommend against doing that.

 

Jonathan C. Cohn 

On Sep 3, 2021, at 17:11, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:

 

HiAl 

How cnI gtndcopy the erin ffirfxI h? Becae Jaw I tradigprorl on fif 

Addison

 


moderated Re: Accessing the text of comments in Google Docs

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

In the latest JAWS update, I suppose you know that you can use the JAWS quick keys within a Google document to move to and speak comments. But I see that you can't actually explore the text of the comment word by word or letter by letter. If this is new to you, press the layered command INSERT+SPACE then G. To hear your choices for commands, press question mark.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing the text of comments in Google Docs

Hi,

When I am reading a Google Doc, JAWS says comment start, followed by
the text on which a comment has been made and then comment end. Is
there a keystroke to get to the text of the comment when the cursor is
on the text to which the comment relates?

Essentially a keystroke similar to alt+r followed by n that does this
job in Word. Being able to view comments by and by in this way while
reading a document would be very helpful.

I know of the alt+control+shift+a keystroke to open the full list of
comments, but that is quite an inconvenient way to interact with
comments.

Warmly,
Rahul


--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford


moderated Re: Accessing the text of comments in Google Docs

Jeff Christiansen
 

I found this

Enter current comment
Ctrl+Alt+E or Ctrl+Alt+C
Move to next comment
Ctrl+Alt+N Ctrl+Alt+C
Move to previous comment
Ctrl+Alt+P Ctrl+Alt+C

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Accessing the text of comments in Google Docs

Hi,

When I am reading a Google Doc, JAWS says comment start, followed by the text on which a comment has been made and then comment end. Is there a keystroke to get to the text of the comment when the cursor is on the text to which the comment relates?

Essentially a keystroke similar to alt+r followed by n that does this job in Word. Being able to view comments by and by in this way while reading a document would be very helpful.

I know of the alt+control+shift+a keystroke to open the full list of comments, but that is quite an inconvenient way to interact with comments.

Warmly,
Rahul


--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford


moderated Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

O.Addison Gethers
 

I will called FS tedhnidql support tomorrow morning so they can do jaws tandem to see what’s going on !!

Addison

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2021 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Okay I have a question is their a major difference between google krome and say brave or Microsoft edge,  I was under the empression that they are all krome based browsers.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 10:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Hi All

I have firefox version  of 91.2  ,I’m having some problem with jaws  not read some of the website right  when I press f5 key to refresh the page  it took about 2 minute for the page to opens up  so jaws is kind of slow

Addison


moderated Accessing the text of comments in Google Docs

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

When I am reading a Google Doc, JAWS says comment start, followed by
the text on which a comment has been made and then comment end. Is
there a keystroke to get to the text of the comment when the cursor is
on the text to which the comment relates?

Essentially a keystroke similar to alt+r followed by n that does this
job in Word. Being able to view comments by and by in this way while
reading a document would be very helpful.

I know of the alt+control+shift+a keystroke to open the full list of
comments, but that is quite an inconvenient way to interact with
comments.

Warmly,
Rahul


--
--
Rahul Bajaj
Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford


moderated Re: Edge blocking downloads.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

The media tool was for win 10 and the win 11 install was an iso from MS. It did all the updates before starting the install. Whitch is standard practice now.

On 9/5/2021 11:02 AM, Randy Barnett via groups.io wrote:
hi, I did the same thing when I did a clean install of a Windows 11 version 22XXX. I don't know why it's doing it it's never done this before but it did it on the last two complete clean installs and they were current versions in my media tool says media creation tool21H1.EXE

Randy Barnett

On Sep 5, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I recently reinstalled Windows 10 as well and that was certainly not my experience because once Edge Chromium is installed it updates itself internally. It would have been interesting to know which version of Edge you had, but it almost sounds like you had the old version of Edge prior to the Chromium based Edge. How did you reinstall Windows? Did you use the Media Creation Tool or did you use an image which maybe was already older and which still had the old Edge on it? It is my understanding that if you create an installation drive using the current version of the Media Creation Tool for Windows 10 Version 21H1 that you definitely get the chromium based Edge and probably whatever version was out around April or May.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: September 4, 2021 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge blocking downloads.

 

The first time i opened edge after the clean install of windows it tromped me to update to the latest version. This took me to the Microsoft page for edge. When I clicked on the link to download the latest version of Edge, Edge blocked its own installer from the official Microsoft website.Beleave it or ont... On 9/3/2021 11:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There is no need to install Edge if you use the 21H1 media creation tool, it already installs Edge and at best Edge would update after everything is done.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: September 3, 2021 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge blocking downloads.

 

I give up on edge. After a clean install of windows and all the updates, Edge prompted me to download the latest version of Edge. Guess what... It blocked its own installer.

On 9/3/2021 2:17 PM, Randy Barnett via groups.io wrote:

Well It seems downgrading

from an insider build a while back corrupted my system. Now I have the same Windows security settings you described. And things are back to what I am used to. But Edge blocked a download from my One drive account... Hopefully that is not a sign of what is to come.

 

On 9/3/2021 12:00 PM, Randy Barnett via groups.io wrote:

It would take longer to get a hold of them than it will to do this. I have got it down to a 30 minute procedure. I much prefer a clean install when windows starts having unexplained random glitches.

On 9/3/2021 11:53 AM, Edward Green wrote:

Hi,

Before you go to the bother of reinstalling Windows, you should definitely call the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk and have them try and fix it.

Cheers,

Ed

On 3 September 2021 19:51:03 "Mario" <mrb620@...> wrote:

I'm wondering if performing a reset of Windows 10 would also work, maybe?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Subject: Edge blocking downloads.
Date: Friday, September 3, 2021, 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 02:23 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

thanks I think it's my system somethings corrupted so I'm gonna
reinstall it.

-
If that's something you're willing and able to do, it's the very best
way to get a known clean baseline of Windows 10 to start from.

If you have too much time invested in having added programs and have
lots of data, you could consider this before a nuke & pave: */Doing a
Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO
file/*
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>

Using the ISO file method gets you as close to a completely clean
install as you can get without taking "the thermonuclear option" first.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer



 


moderated Re: Edge blocking downloads.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

hi, I did the same thing when I did a clean install of a Windows 11 version 22XXX. I don't know why it's doing it it's never done this before but it did it on the last two complete clean installs and they were current versions in my media tool says media creation tool21H1.EXE

Randy Barnett

On Sep 5, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



I recently reinstalled Windows 10 as well and that was certainly not my experience because once Edge Chromium is installed it updates itself internally. It would have been interesting to know which version of Edge you had, but it almost sounds like you had the old version of Edge prior to the Chromium based Edge. How did you reinstall Windows? Did you use the Media Creation Tool or did you use an image which maybe was already older and which still had the old Edge on it? It is my understanding that if you create an installation drive using the current version of the Media Creation Tool for Windows 10 Version 21H1 that you definitely get the chromium based Edge and probably whatever version was out around April or May.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: September 4, 2021 2:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge blocking downloads.

 

The first time i opened edge after the clean install of windows it tromped me to update to the latest version. This took me to the Microsoft page for edge. When I clicked on the link to download the latest version of Edge, Edge blocked its own installer from the official Microsoft website.Beleave it or ont... On 9/3/2021 11:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

There is no need to install Edge if you use the 21H1 media creation tool, it already installs Edge and at best Edge would update after everything is done.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: September 3, 2021 4:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge blocking downloads.

 

I give up on edge. After a clean install of windows and all the updates, Edge prompted me to download the latest version of Edge. Guess what... It blocked its own installer.

On 9/3/2021 2:17 PM, Randy Barnett via groups.io wrote:

Well It seems downgrading

from an insider build a while back corrupted my system. Now I have the same Windows security settings you described. And things are back to what I am used to. But Edge blocked a download from my One drive account... Hopefully that is not a sign of what is to come.

 

On 9/3/2021 12:00 PM, Randy Barnett via groups.io wrote:

It would take longer to get a hold of them than it will to do this. I have got it down to a 30 minute procedure. I much prefer a clean install when windows starts having unexplained random glitches.

On 9/3/2021 11:53 AM, Edward Green wrote:

Hi,

Before you go to the bother of reinstalling Windows, you should definitely call the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk and have them try and fix it.

Cheers,

Ed

On 3 September 2021 19:51:03 "Mario" <mrb620@...> wrote:

I'm wondering if performing a reset of Windows 10 would also work, maybe?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Subject: Edge blocking downloads.
Date: Friday, September 3, 2021, 2:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 02:23 PM, Randy Barnett wrote:

thanks I think it's my system somethings corrupted so I'm gonna
reinstall it.

-
If that's something you're willing and able to do, it's the very best
way to get a known clean baseline of Windows 10 to start from.

If you have too much time invested in having added programs and have
lots of data, you could consider this before a nuke & pave: */Doing a
Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO
file/*
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>

Using the ISO file method gets you as close to a completely clean
install as you can get without taking "the thermonuclear option" first.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*/It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between
thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly
different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power
to connect the seemingly unconnected./*

    ~ William Plomer



 


moderated Re: Success with win 11 and Jaws 2021

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

yes that's correct. But at this point in time most people don't have any use for legacy mode. And I did have to enable secure boot and tPM. But what's weird is after I turned off legacy mode and turned on the Otother two options. my computer boots in about 10 seconds. It is way faster. before I made those three changes it was taking almost a minute to boot and I was really disappointed with the boot speeds after they replace the motherboard that was defective. but now it's awesome! I'm not sure why this is. Other than Legacy mode is just slow.

Randy Barnett

On Sep 5, 2021, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

And both SecureBoot and TPM are listed as requirements for Windows 11 so it would seem obvious that both should be enabled and this is exactly the reason why for the first time Microsoft has set out such relatively strict requirements when Windows 11 is released to the public, if you don't have SecureBoost enabled or if you don't have TPM or if your BIOS runs in legacy mode instead of UEFI or if your chip is not new enough Windows 11 will not install.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: September 4, 2021 5:14 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io; main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Success with win 11 and Jaws 2021

Hi, I was having a lot of issues with my win 10 and needed to reinstall.
But I decided to turn off legacy mode in the Bios and enable secure boot and TPM. Did a clean install of windows 11 insider preview and so far all is good! Settings are way different but in some ways better. After some time I think it will be better than win 10. i

will update if I have any major issues.


moderated Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

Curtis Chong
 

Greetings:

 

Not all browsers behave identically. It is certainly more than a simple question of branding. I myself often toggle between Microsoft Edge (Chromium) or Google Chrome with occasional forays into Mozilla Firefox. On my system, Firefox seems to have a problem if, for example, I bring up a list of 600 books in BARD with all of the books displayed on a single page. Google Chrome loads a bit more quickly. Microsoft Edge often generates these verbal alerts telling me that the page is still downloading. Google Chrome does not do this nor does Firefox.

 

In the end, it all comes down to which performance characteristics you, the user, find helpful and which ones you don’t. Since I do a lot with Google Workspace and Google Meets, Chrome is my “go to” for most (but not all) things.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2021 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Okay I have a question is their a major difference between google krome and say brave or Microsoft edge,  I was under the empression that they are all krome based browsers.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 10:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Hi All

I have firefox version  of 91.2  ,I’m having some problem with jaws  not read some of the website right  when I press f5 key to refresh the page  it took about 2 minute for the page to opens up  so jaws is kind of slow

Addison


moderated Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Hi,

All three are Chromium-based browsers, Google Chrome included. The differences lies in branding, purpose, and features they add on top of base Chromium code – Chrome and Edge are optimized for services from Google and Microsoft, respectively.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Okay I have a question is their a major difference between google krome and say brave or Microsoft edge,  I was under the empression that they are all krome based browsers.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2021 10:14 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Firefox version 91.2 Jaws2021

 

Hi All

I have firefox version  of 91.2  ,I’m having some problem with jaws  not read some of the website right  when I press f5 key to refresh the page  it took about 2 minute for the page to opens up  so jaws is kind of slow

Addison


moderated Re: Edge blocking downloads.

 

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