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Re: JAWS 2022
James Homuth
It’s about time we get this feature. Just saved me a step. And pretty much every other program does this…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: August 31, 2021 7:31 PM To: JFW Mailing List <jfw@groups.io> Subject: JAWS 2022
Just a heads up for those who will be purchasing JAWS 2022. There will no longer be a Settings Migration tool. Instead, JAWS 22 will automatically adopt whatever settings you had chosen for your last version of JAWS. I am personally unhappy about this, because I never migrate settings from one JAWS version to another. Here's what the latest FS podcast says about avoiding that problem.
If you had a previous version, and it adopted those settings, and you’d rather start clean, or you’d rather import some other settings that you’ve saved someplace else, you go to the Options menu. You choose Restore Factory Defaults. It’ll ask you are you sure you want to do this? You accept it. And your settings will be wiped out. I think JAWS will actually restart, and you’ll get the Startup Wizard just like you had just done a clean install with no adoption of settings. So at that point you can do whatever you like.
Bill White
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Re: JAWS 2022
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
If there is corruption you have to reset to default anyways and you can still do this. I think this is probably a really good feature for a large group of Jaws users. This was pointed out by Jonathan Mosen on another list and I agree, if you set up a new iPhone all your Settings also transfer over and people love it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: September 1, 2021 1:27 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2022
Because sometimes there is corruption in the old settings, and a newer version of JAWS gets screwed up because of it.
All the best
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On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Hi Bill,
Why wouldn’t you want your settings to migrate to the newer version?
Mike
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Re: JAWS 2022
Steve Nutt
Because sometimes there is corruption in the old settings, and a newer version of JAWS gets screwed up because of it.
All the best
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: 01 September 2021 02:23 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2022
Hi Bill,
Why wouldn’t you want your settings to migrate to the newer version?
Mike
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Re: JAWS 2022
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
It all depends on how complicated your settings are, do you have a braille display, do you have custom scripts or do you yourself modify or write scripts and so on.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: August 31, 2021 7:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2022
I’ve never had that happen.
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Re: windows 11
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
You only have it if you have a Trusted Platform Module, it says "Security Devices", if you don't have that your computer is older and does not have a TPM.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: August 31, 2021 7:01 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 11 Marvin, I opened Device Manager but don't have a security item. how did you end up with a security item in your Device Manager? -------- Original Message -------- From: Marvin Hunkin [mailto:startrektech@techie.com] Subject: windows 11 Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 8:23 AM To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Hi. Have got tpm 2.0. went to control panel, device manager, and security. And then with the health app. Says my processor, but when I use the win y 11 tool. Tells me everything is fine. Thanks.
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Re: windows 11
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
I don't know what the "Win Y 11 Tool" is, I can't find such a thing, the only way to check for Windows 11 compatibility as far as I know is with the PC Health Check app and to my knowledge Microsoft has pulled it and it will be rereleased at some point to give better information as to why your computer is or is not compatible. If you go to the Windows 11 page directly on Microsoft.com and look for PC Health Check, it says the following:
Use the PC Health Check app to see if your current PC meets the requirements to run Windows 11. If so, you can get a free upgrade when it rolls out. COMING SOON
Anyways, that's the last comment I have, it's not really that big of a deal anyways, it's not like Microsoft hasn't said already that Windows 10 will be fully supported with feature and security updates until at least 2025. Lots of time to get a new computer in those 4 years if your current one doesn't cut it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: August 31, 2021 5:23 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: windows 11
Hi. Have got tpm 2.0. went to control panel, device manager, and security. And then with the health app. Says my processor, but when I use the win y 11 tool. Tells me everything is fine. Thanks.
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JAWS not responsivein Zoom meetings
turab chimthanawala
Hi all,
I am facing the following challenges lately: 1. JAWS does not speak when a person enters/ exits the meeting. 2. Jaws does not effectively read the participants' list. Sometimes, it just doesn't speak at all. At times, before announcing each name, it says, 'press up or down arrow...'. I use JAWS 2021 on Windows 10. Thanks -- Regards, Turab Chimthanawala (ACS, LLM) +91-8087813609 turabhvc@gmail.com
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Now: List Rules - 09/01/2021
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List Rules When: Description: http://groups.io/g/jfw/wiki/List-Policies
**List Policies** 1: Keep it clean. We're a family list, and there are people here who probably don't want to hear everything *exactly* that's running through your head. If you wouldn't see it on TV, it doesn't belong in a post to the list. If you're not sure, email the administration before you post it to the list. Otherwise, you stand to see your posts moderated. 2: Stay on topic. We're a JFW-oriented list. That said, anything related to JFW, its functionality with programs etc is acceptable. If it doesn't have to do with JFW, it doesn't belong on the list. This includes, but isn't limited to, talk of other screen readers such as Window Eyes. 3: Listen to, and respect, the wishes of the admins/moderators. If you're asked by an admin or moderator to drop a subject, or take something to private emails (in the instance of two people carrying on a thread list-wide), please do so. If the subject is changed on a thread by an admin or moderator, it will be explained why in the email sent out with it. Please don't continue replying to the old subject. 4: Don't ask over the list for a position on the list administration. If you'd like to help out, it's of course welcome, but address the request to do so to the admin team, otherwise it'll be ignored. Requests are always welcome, whether help is being looked for or not. When help is needed, a post will be made to the list. The requests already received will be kept in mind. 5: Keep flaming to a minimum. This is not limited to flaming of each other, but goes beyond that, to flaming of products, opinions, ideas, suggestions, etc. Constructive criticism never hurts. Flame wars, especially public ones, both drive people from this list and are unwelcome here. either take the problem to private emails, or report the problem to list administration. 6. Respect the opinions and views of others. This is *very* important in any environment, most especially an online environment where the only gage one has on a person is what that person puts to writing. If you come off as hostile in your posting, whether you intended to or not, people will take it as such. Online, "face value" means just that. People make mistakes, people don't always have access to the same information you do. For that matter, people don't always have the same experience you do. If you know how someone can solve their problem, great. Suggest it to them and/or the list. Do *not* proceed to tell someone, on or off list, that they have no business posting. Repeat offenders of this particular rule will be banned for a week to 30 days, depending on the severity. Serious problems will be banned permanently. As always, if there are problems or questions with regards these policies, don't hesitate to send them off-list to jfw+owner@groups.io James,
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Re: Focus 40 and Braille
Ann Byrne
Got it! My focus is older and the keys are different. I did find the spacebar on my student's display.
Apparently the Braille input is dictated by the output, so there is only one input choice, depending on the output. To get to the settingsI needed, I had to go to the advanced Braille settings and work my way back up. Strange. thanks for all the help.
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Re: JAWS 2022
Michael Walker
I’ve never had that happen.
On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: JAWS 2022
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Unless a miracle has happened and they solved the migration issue.
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One can always hope...
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner
website: www.turner42.com
On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: JAWS 2022
Bill White
Hi, Mike. Several times, due to changes in the newer version of JAWS, migrating the settings to the new version caused anomalies that made it necessary to completely reinstall the newer version. Nobody knows when this might happen, so many of us simply change the settings manually in the new version, so the migration tool doesn't mess up the new version of JAWS. Now that the new version of JAWS won't have a migration tool, the new version of JAWS will get messed up automatically.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Walker
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 6:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS 2022
Hi Bill,
Why wouldn’t you want your settings to migrate to the newer version?
Mike On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: JAWS 2022
Michael Walker
Hi Bill, Why wouldn’t you want your settings to migrate to the newer version? Mike
On Aug 31, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: Focus 40 and Braille
Ann Byrne
Oh, for crying out loud! where is the stinkin' spacebar?
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Nope. I don't use this beast for writing. thanks for the help.
At 07:17 PM 8/31/2021, you wrote:
Here’s what I found in the Focus 40 Blue Display User’s Guide:
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Re: Focus 40 and Braille
Ann Byrne
I have only 'computer braille' for input under translation, although I have grade II etc. for output.
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At 07:05 PM 8/31/2021, you wrote:
I'm typing this in Grade II braille with a Focus 40. I normally use the QWERTY keyboard for text entry, but for this message, I'm using Grade II braille input.
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Re: Focus 40 and Braille
Bill Tessore
Here’s what I found in the Focus 40 Blue Display User’s Guide:
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Typing with Contracted BrailleWith BrailleIn, as you type in contracted braille using the Perkins-style keyboard, your input is immediately translated back as normal text in the current e-mail, document, or form. If an application or specific edit box does not support contracted braille, JAWS announces “Computer Braille” when tutor messages are enabled. Contracted braille input is off by default. To turn it on, do the following:
Note: Contracted Braille Translation can also be turned on or off using the Translation Options (INSERT+V) in those applications where it is available. This can be found at: https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Manuals/Focus/Focus40Blue/Focus-40-Blue-Online-Users-Guide.htm Fhalom, Bill Tessore billtessore@...
On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
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Re: Focus 40 and Braille
Jason White
I'm typing this in Grade II braille with a Focus 40. I normally use the QWERTY keyboard for text entry, but for this message, I'm using Grade II braille input.
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In Settings Center, under Translation, there are separate options for input and output translation. Mine are both set to U.S. English Grade II. You can of course set them to UEB or whatever else you choose.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:47 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Focus 40 and Braille My student wants to know how to input grade II Braille with his focus 40. Searching the documentation, it looks like you can't. Failing input, how do you output Grade II Braille? thanks much, Ann
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Focus 40 and Braille
Ann Byrne
My student wants to know how to input grade II Braille with his focus 40. Searching the documentation, it looks like you can't. Failing input, how do you output Grade II Braille?
thanks much, Ann
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JAWS 2022
Bill White
Just a heads up for those who will be purchasing JAWS 2022. There will no longer be a Settings Migration tool. Instead, JAWS 22 will automatically adopt whatever settings you had chosen for your last version of JAWS. I am personally unhappy about this, because I never migrate settings from one JAWS version to another. Here's what the latest FS podcast says about avoiding that problem.
If you had a previous version, and it adopted those settings, and you’d rather start clean, or you’d rather import some other settings that you’ve saved someplace else, you go to the Options menu. You choose Restore Factory Defaults. It’ll ask you are you sure you want to do this? You accept it. And your settings will be wiped out. I think JAWS will actually restart, and you’ll get the Startup Wizard just like you had just done a clean install with no adoption of settings. So at that point you can do whatever you like.
Bill White
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Re: windows 11
Steve Nutt
Hi,
Minor correction, it is secure boot, not boost, I believe.
All the best
Steve
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 30 August 2021 16:43 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: windows 11
This is a 7th Gen I3 CPU, but as it's an I3 meaning a low-end Intel CPU it may not be compatible. In addition to the processor requirement you also have to check if your BIOS has SecureBoost and whether it is enabled and whether your system has a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) and that it is Version 2.0. The Secure Boost setting you can find in System Information and the TPM module information you can check either by typing tpm.msc into the Run dialogue or, a bit easier, by going to Device Manager and them look for "Security Devices", expand it and see what it says, it should say "Trusted Platform Module 2.0". Apart from that either run the new PC Health Check tool if available yet or just wait and see whether Windows 11 is offered to you in October or November.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
h. here’s the info from belark advisor. Pasting below.
Ps: has 4 cores or 4 threads.2.30 gigahertz Intel Core i3-7020U
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