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moderated Re: Focus 40 and Braille

Bill Tessore
 

Here’s what I found in the Focus 40 Blue Display User’s Guide:

Typing with Contracted Braille

With BrailleIn, as you type in contracted braille using the Perkins-style keyboard, your input is immediately translated back as normal text in the current e-mail, document, or form. If an application or specific edit box does not support contracted braille, JAWS announces “Computer Braille” when tutor messages are enabled.

Contracted braille input is off by default. To turn it on, do the following:

  1. Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
  2. In the Search edit box, type "Contracted Braille Translation" without the quotes.
  3. Press DOWN ARROW to move to Contracted Braille Translation in the filtered search results in the tree view.
  4. Next, press SPACEBAR to cycle through the different settings in the Contracted Braille Translation combo box.
    Available settings are Off, Output Only, and Input and Output. When set to Off, you cannot read or type in contracted braille using your braille display. When set to Output Only, you can read contracted braille on your braille display, but you can only type in computer braille using the Perkins-style keyboard on your braille display. When set to Input and Output, you can both read and type in contracted braille using your braille display. The default setting is Off.

Note: Contracted Braille Translation can also be turned on or off using the Translation Options (INSERT+V) in those applications where it is available.


This can be found at: https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Manuals/Focus/Focus40Blue/Focus-40-Blue-Online-Users-Guide.htm






Fhalom,

Bill Tessore
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On Aug 31, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:

My student wants to know how to input grade II Braille with his focus 40.  Searching the documentation, it looks like you can't.  Failing input, how do you output Grade II Braille?

thanks much,

Ann







moderated Re: Focus 40 and Braille

Jason White
 

I'm typing this in Grade II braille with a Focus 40. I normally use the QWERTY keyboard for text entry, but for this message, I'm using Grade II braille input.

In Settings Center, under Translation, there are separate options for input and output translation. Mine are both set to U.S. English Grade II. You can of course set them to UEB or whatever else you choose.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 19:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Focus 40 and Braille

My student wants to know how to input grade II Braille with his focus 40. Searching the documentation, it looks like you can't. Failing input, how do you output Grade II Braille?

thanks much,

Ann


moderated Focus 40 and Braille

Ann Byrne
 

My student wants to know how to input grade II Braille with his focus 40. Searching the documentation, it looks like you can't. Failing input, how do you output Grade II Braille?

thanks much,

Ann


moderated JAWS 2022

Bill White
 

Just a heads up for those who will be purchasing JAWS 2022. There will no longer be a Settings Migration tool. Instead, JAWS 22 will automatically adopt whatever settings you had chosen for your last version of JAWS. I am personally unhappy about this, because I never migrate settings from one JAWS version to another. Here's what the latest FS podcast says about avoiding that problem.

 

If you had a previous version, and it adopted those settings, and you’d rather

start clean, or you’d rather import some other settings that you’ve saved someplace else, you go to the Options menu.  You choose Restore Factory Defaults. 

It’ll ask you are you sure you want to do this?  You accept it.  And your settings will be wiped out.  I think JAWS will actually restart, and you’ll get

the Startup Wizard just like you had just done a clean install with no adoption of settings.  So at that point you can do whatever you like.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


moderated Re: windows 11

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Minor correction, it is secure boot, not boost, I believe.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 30 August 2021 16:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 11

 

This is a 7th Gen I3 CPU, but as it's an I3 meaning a low-end Intel CPU it may not be compatible.

In addition to the processor requirement you also have to check if your BIOS has SecureBoost and whether it is enabled and whether your system has a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) and that it is Version 2.0.

The Secure Boost setting you can find in System Information and the TPM module information you can check either by typing tpm.msc into the Run dialogue or, a bit easier, by going to Device Manager and them look for "Security Devices", expand it and see what it says, it should say "Trusted Platform Module 2.0".

Apart from that either run the new PC Health Check tool if available yet or just wait and see whether Windows 11 is offered to you in October or November.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: August 29, 2021 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows 11

 

h. here’s the info from belark advisor.

Pasting below.

 

 

Ps: has 4 cores or 4 threads.2.30 gigahertz Intel Core i3-7020U

 


moderated Accessing place markers in PDFs

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hi,

My understanding is that the best way to make notes in a PDF documents
as you read is by inserting well-chosen placemarkers. However, the
problem that I am facing is that I am not able to get to previously
inserted place markers easily. When I press control+shift+k, a list of
place markers opens up. But there is no way to actually go to the text
on which a given place marker has been positioned from that list, as
far as I can tell.

K and shift+k also do nothing for me. I use JAWS 2021.

Rahul

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Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India
Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018)
University of Oxford


moderated Re: windows 11

Chris
 

Unless its actually a donkey, I wouldn’t put a bet on it

 

 

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 31 August 2021 15:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows 11

 

From the proverbial horse's mouth:  Windows 11 available on October 5
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer

 


moderated Re: need help with a groups.io account

 

As far as setting a password, see these two tutorials: 

Establishing a Groups.io Website Account Password If You’ve Been an E-Mail Only User (docx)

Changing the Email Address for Your Groups.io Account (docx)

You also need to have a look through the Groups.io Owner's Manual. That covers almost every aspect of moderation you could imagine.  To answer your specific question, under the Admin section the Group Owners/Moderators see when browsing their groups with the web interface, there is a section entitled "Spam Control." if you activate the control for that section, under it is an checkbox, New Members Moderated, which is checked by default immediately followed by a dropdown box for, Unmoderate after, which allows you to chose Not Enabled as well as any number of messages between 1 and 4.  The default selection is 1 Message.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: windows 11

 

From the proverbial horse's mouth:  Windows 11 available on October 5
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: windows 11

 

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:01 AM, Mario wrote:
I opened Device Manager but don't have a security item.
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If you don't have a TPM, you will not have this category.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: windows 11

Mario
 

Marvin, I opened Device Manager but don't have a security item. how did you end up with a security item in your Device Manager?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Marvin Hunkin [mailto:startrektech@techie.com]
Subject: windows 11
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 8:23 AM
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Hi. Have got tpm 2.0. went to control panel, device manager, and security.

And then with the health app. Says my processor, but when I use the win
y 11 tool. Tells me everything is fine.

Thanks.


moderated windows 11

Marvin Hunkin
 

Hi. Have got tpm 2.0. went to control panel, device manager, and security.

And then with the health app. Says my processor, but when I use the win y 11 tool. Tells me everything is fine.

Thanks.


moderated need help with a groups.io account

Terry
 

Hello. I’ve set up an account with groups.io and I have some questions.

It lists me as the owner. I need to change the email associated with that account, but have no idea what the password is or how to change it.

I need to add a moderator to the account.

Lastly, can I change the fact that after new members are added they have to send 2 messages before they are taken off of moderated status.

Sorry for all of the questions, but I’m new to all of this. I’ve checked the help section, but I can’t find anything to help me out. Thanks in advance for all of your help.

 


moderated Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

David Griffith
 

OK – You have prompted me to report it as a problem to support again as it is obviously not a problem local to my machines.

I suspected that it was not a local problem as it appears on three different machines here.

It is annoying that it gets fixed for one update but then immediately broken again though in the next.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 31 August 2021 02:25
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

Yes, that’s the most part. I’ve had a few other things happen, but you listed the worst. And I agree, it was fixed a few months ago but suddenly started misbehaving again.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

 

You don’t specify the problem but if you mean that Windows Mail crashes unexpectedly  and sporadically whilst Jaws is running I  have had this problem for months on one Desktop and 2 laptop machines.

I reported this to VFO and they fixed it for one Jaws release but apparently they broke it again in the next Jaws update as the problem has now re-appeared and has existed for several months  again here.

Specifically Mail closes without any error message, often after you have deleted a message from the inbox. This is annoying as if you are working through mail and pressing the delete key I often ended up deleting other items, such as documents in an open file explorer Window or even a desktop shortcut by mistake as I would not be aware that Mail has crashed.

This problem got so bad that I changed delete behaviour on my machines to ensure I had to confirm deletion so that I became more aware of when Mail crashes with Jaws.

Nowadays though, unless I forget I simply use NVDA or Narrator with Mail and the program is rock solid with those screenreaders and never crashes.

 

Increasingly I find I have to use multiple screenreaders. NVDA is very sluggish with Outlook, Jaws is a bit better, but Narrator is lightning fast so that is often my screenreader of choice with Outlook now.

David Griffith

 

.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 29 August 2021 17:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

My topic line says it all. I’ve had other problems with windows and/or JAWS since the update. I am just curious to know if others have had more trouble as well. At first I didn’t notice any trouble—but then it began.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 

 


moderated downloading jfw books fs-reader 3.05

Michelle's Home Emails
 

hi list,

Michelle Stevens here,

I am having problems downloading daisy books book on fs-reader 3.05.

I am clicking extra resources From the table of contents in reader
I am going to jaws training main page selecting the jaws training book I want downloading it.

It does not show up in the fs table of contents.
i have even gone to control o to open books gone to my downloads folder but us still does not download the book to be read.

Looking at the file extention it says exe does it need a mcc or sonething else to work in fs-reader?

I am running jaws latest version
64 bit latest windows 10

Many thanks
Michelle


moderated Re: automatic delete of emails in delete folder

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

There is a place in Options where you can turn off the prompt. I never turned on the setting to automatically delete when exiting, but in my view it doesn't really make sense that if you turn this on you should also be prompted if you want to do this. Of course if you had it turned on before and it worked that way then maybe the prompt to ask for confirmation got turned off. You can check it by going into Options > Advanced and since it's towards the end of the many items it's easier if you press Shift + Tab, the first time you end up on Cancel, the second time on OK, after that press Shift + Tab 7 more times and you hear "Prompt for confirmation before permanently deleting items check box not checked"

Of course this is what it says for me since I don't want to be asked if I want to delete something from Deleted Items, if yours says "Checked" then obviously this doesn't apply to the automatic emptying of the deleted items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: August 30, 2021 6:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: automatic delete of emails in delete folder

 

Hello,

I had Outlook 2016 setup to automatically delete emails when exiting Outlook2016. Some how it got turned off. I turned it back on. The emails do get deleted, yet I don’t get the message asking if I really want to delete the emails. Do I need to turn on something else to get the message?

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 


moderated automatic delete of emails in delete folder

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I had Outlook 2016 setup to automatically delete emails when exiting Outlook2016. Some how it got turned off. I turned it back on. The emails do get deleted, yet I don’t get the message asking if I really want to delete the emails. Do I need to turn on something else to get the message?

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 


moderated Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

Shirley Tracy
 

Yes, that’s the most part. I’ve had a few other things happen, but you listed the worst. And I agree, it was fixed a few months ago but suddenly started misbehaving again.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: David Griffith
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 12:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

 

You don’t specify the problem but if you mean that Windows Mail crashes unexpectedly  and sporadically whilst Jaws is running I  have had this problem for months on one Desktop and 2 laptop machines.

I reported this to VFO and they fixed it for one Jaws release but apparently they broke it again in the next Jaws update as the problem has now re-appeared and has existed for several months  again here.

Specifically Mail closes without any error message, often after you have deleted a message from the inbox. This is annoying as if you are working through mail and pressing the delete key I often ended up deleting other items, such as documents in an open file explorer Window or even a desktop shortcut by mistake as I would not be aware that Mail has crashed.

This problem got so bad that I changed delete behaviour on my machines to ensure I had to confirm deletion so that I became more aware of when Mail crashes with Jaws.

Nowadays though, unless I forget I simply use NVDA or Narrator with Mail and the program is rock solid with those screenreaders and never crashes.

 

Increasingly I find I have to use multiple screenreaders. NVDA is very sluggish with Outlook, Jaws is a bit better, but Narrator is lightning fast so that is often my screenreader of choice with Outlook now.

David Griffith

 

.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 29 August 2021 17:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

My topic line says it all. I’ve had other problems with windows and/or JAWS since the update. I am just curious to know if others have had more trouble as well. At first I didn’t notice any trouble—but then it began.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 

 


moderated Re: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

David Griffith
 

 

You don’t specify the problem but if you mean that Windows Mail crashes unexpectedly  and sporadically whilst Jaws is running I  have had this problem for months on one Desktop and 2 laptop machines.

I reported this to VFO and they fixed it for one Jaws release but apparently they broke it again in the next Jaws update as the problem has now re-appeared and has existed for several months  again here.

Specifically Mail closes without any error message, often after you have deleted a message from the inbox. This is annoying as if you are working through mail and pressing the delete key I often ended up deleting other items, such as documents in an open file explorer Window or even a desktop shortcut by mistake as I would not be aware that Mail has crashed.

This problem got so bad that I changed delete behaviour on my machines to ensure I had to confirm deletion so that I became more aware of when Mail crashes with Jaws.

Nowadays though, unless I forget I simply use NVDA or Narrator with Mail and the program is rock solid with those screenreaders and never crashes.

 

Increasingly I find I have to use multiple screenreaders. NVDA is very sluggish with Outlook, Jaws is a bit better, but Narrator is lightning fast so that is often my screenreader of choice with Outlook now.

David Griffith

 

.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 29 August 2021 17:17
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Have any of you noticed problems with windows mail since the latest update from Microsoft?

 

My topic line says it all. I’ve had other problems with windows and/or JAWS since the update. I am just curious to know if others have had more trouble as well. At first I didn’t notice any trouble—but then it began.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

 


moderated Re: windows 11

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

This is a 7th Gen I3 CPU, but as it's an I3 meaning a low-end Intel CPU it may not be compatible.

In addition to the processor requirement you also have to check if your BIOS has SecureBoost and whether it is enabled and whether your system has a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) and that it is Version 2.0.

The Secure Boost setting you can find in System Information and the TPM module information you can check either by typing tpm.msc into the Run dialogue or, a bit easier, by going to Device Manager and them look for "Security Devices", expand it and see what it says, it should say "Trusted Platform Module 2.0".

Apart from that either run the new PC Health Check tool if available yet or just wait and see whether Windows 11 is offered to you in October or November.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: August 29, 2021 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: windows 11

 

h. here’s the info from belark advisor.

Pasting below.

 

 

Ps: has 4 cores or 4 threads.2.30 gigahertz Intel Core i3-7020U

 

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