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moderated Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 04:50 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote:
That is quite true of any new dialog box.
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Joseph Lee once used the term information blackout to describe the idea that any screen reader user cannot ever experience any window, dialog, etc., as a gestalt like one does when seeing it.  And it's true, since a screen reader can only focus on an element at a time during the most typical forms of navigation.  You can't take it all in at once.

But, and it's a critical but, screen reader users who don't know about this need to, and need to know about the necessity of actually reviewing new windows, dialogs, whatever, in their entirety if they wish to know everything that it contains.  Mind you, I'm not insane enough to say this must happen each and every time you happen to "be passing through" on something that's neither of great import nor that you expect to use again.  But the PDF dialog, given the context of the original question and the information being sought, is a perfect example where reviewing it, in its entirety, using the method(s) your screen reader gives you, is necessary to know everything it says, at least for a given screen reader.

There is a difference in what NVDA and JAWS announce by default based on the layout of that particular dialog.  And in this case, it takes a bit more cajoling to get all the information that NVDA gives by default, which is complete, from JAWS.  There are plenty of instances I can recall where the reverse is true, so this is not an insult aimed toward JAWS.

And in any instance, when someone using another screen reader than you routinely do reports that they're getting more information than you are in a specific context, that clearly indicates that your chosen screen reader is, for this context, "missing something" unless you force it to reveal it, if you can force it to reveal it, and you generally can.
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moderated Re: number of pages in a PDF

Van Lant, Robin
 

Bill,

That is quite true of any new dialog box.  I find the same if exploring the File Properties dialog   If it’s a new box to me, I’d most likely think it appropriate to insert insert B or to virtualize the window to get a sense of all that is there.

 

 

number. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

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Hi, Richard. The problem isn't that the information isn't available. The problem is that, if one is unfamiliar with this particular dialog box, and one doesn't know that this information is there, it is easily missed, since one can't arrow out of the edit box to see that there is more information there than just the edit box.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

After control+shift+n I just press insert+b to read the dialog and get the information about page x of x plus the OK, cancel etc. But quite simple.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

 



On Aug 5, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Control + Shift + N actually does tell you how many pages, but you have to route Jaws to PC and do a say line.

If you use the PC cursor it's in the edit field and tabbing just takes you from the edit field to OK and Cancel and back into the edit field, but if you do a say line with the Jaws cursor you hear this (I used a 2-page PDF for this):

 

I  press Control + Shift + N:

Go To Page dialog‑
Page: Edit 1

I now press tab:

OK Button

Tab again:

Cancel Button

And tab one more time to go back to the edit field:

Page: Edit 1

I now route JAWS to PC and do a Say Line (Jaws Key + NumPad 8):

Page: 1 of 2

 

You can also switch to the touch cursor when you are in the edit field and right arrow once, Jaws in this case will say "of 2" because in the edit field is the "1" and then the "of 2" is spoken.

 

But as others pointed out, if you route Jaws to PC, then go to the top of the page and arrow down you should also hear 1 / 2 or whatever the number of pages is, if you have 10 pages and are on page 6 it would say 6 of 10

 

Whether one or the other is easier and quicker every body has to decide, I guess Pressing Control + Shift + N and then route Jaws to PC and Say Line is a fairly quick and easy combination and it's maybe a bit more reliable in an accessible PDF.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Hi, Brian. The CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command does not tell you how many pages are in the document. Besides that, if the document is not text, and requires OCR scanning through JAWS, the CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command will not be available.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Mario,

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but I thought that dialog told you the total number of pages, if you wait for it, as well.
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moderated Correction On JAWS Not Speaking Zoom Joins and Leaves

Steve Matzura
 

Turns out, my reported problem the other day of not hearing JAWS speak Zoom meeting joins and leaves was incomplete. I also don't hear host and cohost messages, like people entering and leaving the Waiting Room. However, if I am not focused in the Zoom Meeting window, I do hear all of these things. This only happens in JAWS 2021. I am using the Vispero-provided script, and it used to work up until I think the last JAWS update, 2021-0712. If I could troubleshoot or debug this any further for someone to help me solve it, I'd glad to do that, just tell me what to check. Alerts are turned on with Alt+Windows Key+S, and when the events occur which are supposed to trigger those messages, pressing Alt+A reads them correctly as having been displayed. In Help > Accessibility, everything is turned on (checked), and I'm on the latest version of Zoom, 5.7.4804.


TIA


moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I don't recommend that at all because first of all there is a good chance it may reinstall the next time there is a major Windows update and secondly it uses such an inconsequential amount of space that you might as well leave it. This way if you decide at some point you want to use it it's right there and you can simply log in. Anybody who has a Microsoft 365 subscription might as well use it since you get 1 Tb of free storage with the subscription.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

If you don't use it at all just uninstall it from add/remove programs.
On 8/5/2021 12:57 AM, Tom Cramer wrote:
Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom





moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Instead of all the initial steps you can just press the Windows key and start typing "startup", chances are that by the time you type "start" you hear Jaws saying "Startup Apps, System settings, Press right to switch preview", press enter at that point and then tab until you get to OneDrive, in the process you may come across something else you may find you don't need to load at startup and you can turn it off by pressing the spacebar.
When you are done just press Alt + F4 to exit the Settings, there is no OK button or anything like that and the next time you reboot (no need to reboot right away) it won't come up.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Hi, Tom. Here's the easiest way I found to deactivate OneDrive.

1. From the desktop, press the Windows Key plus X.
2. Arrow down to Apps and Features, and press ENTER.
3. Press SHIFT plus TAB once to get to the list of categories.
4. Arrow down to Startup, and press ENTER.
5. Now, tab through the list of programs that run when the computer starts, and turn off OneDrive.
6. Close the Startup dialog, and reboot your computer.

Now OneDrive shouldn't come up when your computer starts.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Cramer
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom


moderated Re: [External] Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

Cook, Steve
 

I use Format Factory and it is free

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cliff Self via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 6:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [External] Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

 

I used to use VLC for this, but now it is even less accessible than it was before.  Any suggestions for a safe and easy way to convert files?

 

Thanks,

 

Cliff


moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Dave Durber
 

Tom:

My previous response jumped the gun so to speak.

I meant to ask you if you just wanted to stop one drive from starting when Windows starts; whether you want to uninstall one drive or; whether you want to disable one drive, which will also uninstall one drive.

Bill's and Randy's suggestions will help you with the first 2 questions in the paragraph above, whereas, if you want to disable one drive, let me know, and I will send you the instructions off-list.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:57 AM
Subject: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?


Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom




moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Dave Durber
 

Bill:

I just emailed tom to say I will contact him with instructions. Those instructions are to completely disable one drive. However, if all he wants to do is stop one drive from starting when Windows starts, then, your suggestion will work for him.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@att.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?


Hi, Tom. Here's the easiest way I found to deactivate OneDrive.

1. From the desktop, press the Windows Key plus X.
2. Arrow down to Apps and Features, and press ENTER.
3. Press SHIFT plus TAB once to get to the list of categories.
4. Arrow down to Startup, and press ENTER.
5. Now, tab through the list of programs that run when the computer starts, and turn off OneDrive.
6. Close the Startup dialog, and reboot your computer.

Now OneDrive shouldn't come up when your computer starts.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Cramer
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom


moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Dave Durber
 

Hello Tom:

I will contact you personally off-list with instructions. I will also need to send you a .reg file, which cannot be attached to an email message on this list, as far as I know.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Cramer" <tom.cramer1@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:57 AM
Subject: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?


Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom




moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

If you don't use it at all just uninstall it from add/remove programs.

On 8/5/2021 12:57 AM, Tom Cramer wrote:
Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom




moderated Re: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Bill White
 

Hi, Tom. Here's the easiest way I found to deactivate OneDrive.

1. From the desktop, press the Windows Key plus X.
2. Arrow down to Apps and Features, and press ENTER.
3. Press SHIFT plus TAB once to get to the list of categories.
4. Arrow down to Startup, and press ENTER.
5. Now, tab through the list of programs that run when the computer starts, and turn off OneDrive.
6. Close the Startup dialog, and reboot your computer.

Now OneDrive shouldn't come up when your computer starts.

Bill White

billwhite92701@att.net

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Cramer
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom


moderated Re: question on downloading from YouTube

Mich Verrier
 

Ponce media download is the best. From Mich.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: August 4, 2021 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on downloading from YouTube

 

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.ponce media download is the best. From Mich.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Deactivating OneDrive using JAWS?

Tom Cramer
 

Hello,
Recently, I had some work done on my computer, and I guess it was
reset. Now, every time I start it up, it wants me to enter a password
for OneDrive. I guess it wants me to log in, but I don't want to do
that. Is there a way of turning this feature off so it doesn't come
up every time I start my computer?
How do I do this with JAWS? I have no idea.
Tom


moderated Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

JM Casey
 

Switch has both free and paid options. I did downlaod some free switch converter at some point and while it kind of did what I wanted it installed a lot of ..not exactly ads, but basically start menu items pointing to their various other bits of software that I did not have. I seem to remember there were some limitations to the audio converter as well? Still, if it does what you need to do, go for it – you can always get rid of it after the job is done if you maybe it doesn’t do those weird things anymore and/or you can control the installer a little more than I did..this must have been at least ten years ago if not more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: August 5, 2021 11:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

 

Hi,

Both Gold Wave and Switch can convert, but Gold Wave costs $40 while Switch is free. You can get it at:

https://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

David


moderated Re: number of pages in a PDF

Bill White
 

Hi, Richard. The problem isn't that the information isn't available. The problem is that, if one is unfamiliar with this particular dialog box, and one doesn't know that this information is there, it is easily missed, since one can't arrow out of the edit box to see that there is more information there than just the edit box.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

After control+shift+n I just press insert+b to read the dialog and get the information about page x of x plus the OK, cancel etc. But quite simple.

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 



On Aug 5, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Control + Shift + N actually does tell you how many pages, but you have to route Jaws to PC and do a say line.

If you use the PC cursor it's in the edit field and tabbing just takes you from the edit field to OK and Cancel and back into the edit field, but if you do a say line with the Jaws cursor you hear this (I used a 2-page PDF for this):

 

I  press Control + Shift + N:

Go To Page dialog‑
Page: Edit 1

I now press tab:

OK Button

Tab again:

Cancel Button

And tab one more time to go back to the edit field:

Page: Edit 1

I now route JAWS to PC and do a Say Line (Jaws Key + NumPad 8):

Page: 1 of 2

 

You can also switch to the touch cursor when you are in the edit field and right arrow once, Jaws in this case will say "of 2" because in the edit field is the "1" and then the "of 2" is spoken.

 

But as others pointed out, if you route Jaws to PC, then go to the top of the page and arrow down you should also hear 1 / 2 or whatever the number of pages is, if you have 10 pages and are on page 6 it would say 6 of 10

 

Whether one or the other is easier and quicker every body has to decide, I guess Pressing Control + Shift + N and then route Jaws to PC and Say Line is a fairly quick and easy combination and it's maybe a bit more reliable in an accessible PDF.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Hi, Brian. The CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command does not tell you how many pages are in the document. Besides that, if the document is not text, and requires OCR scanning through JAWS, the CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command will not be available.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Mario,

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but I thought that dialog told you the total number of pages, if you wait for it, as well.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: number of pages in a PDF

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

After control+shift+n I just press insert+b to read the dialog and get the information about page x of x plus the OK, cancel etc. But quite simple.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Aug 5, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Control + Shift + N actually does tell you how many pages, but you have to route Jaws to PC and do a say line.

If you use the PC cursor it's in the edit field and tabbing just takes you from the edit field to OK and Cancel and back into the edit field, but if you do a say line with the Jaws cursor you hear this (I used a 2-page PDF for this):

 

I  press Control + Shift + N:

Go To Page dialog‑
Page: Edit 1

I now press tab:

OK Button

Tab again:

Cancel Button

And tab one more time to go back to the edit field:

Page: Edit 1

I now route JAWS to PC and do a Say Line (Jaws Key + NumPad 8):

Page: 1 of 2

 

You can also switch to the touch cursor when you are in the edit field and right arrow once, Jaws in this case will say "of 2" because in the edit field is the "1" and then the "of 2" is spoken.

 

But as others pointed out, if you route Jaws to PC, then go to the top of the page and arrow down you should also hear 1 / 2 or whatever the number of pages is, if you have 10 pages and are on page 6 it would say 6 of 10

 

Whether one or the other is easier and quicker every body has to decide, I guess Pressing Control + Shift + N and then route Jaws to PC and Say Line is a fairly quick and easy combination and it's maybe a bit more reliable in an accessible PDF.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Hi, Brian. The CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command does not tell you how many pages are in the document. Besides that, if the document is not text, and requires OCR scanning through JAWS, the CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command will not be available.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Mario,

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but I thought that dialog told you the total number of pages, if you wait for it, as well.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: number of pages in a PDF

Bill White
 

Hi, Sieghard. I went about this in a slightly different way. Once I pressed the GoTo Page command, I virtualized the screen With ALT plus JAWS key plus W. Once I did that, I could arrow through the entire dialog, and see the

edit box, along with how many pages are in the pdf document.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Control + Shift + N actually does tell you how many pages, but you have to route Jaws to PC and do a say line.

If you use the PC cursor it's in the edit field and tabbing just takes you from the edit field to OK and Cancel and back into the edit field, but if you do a say line with the Jaws cursor you hear this (I used a 2-page PDF for this):

 

I  press Control + Shift + N:

Go To Page dialog‑
Page: Edit 1

I now press tab:

OK Button

Tab again:

Cancel Button

And tab one more time to go back to the edit field:

Page: Edit 1

I now route JAWS to PC and do a Say Line (Jaws Key + NumPad 8):

Page: 1 of 2

 

You can also switch to the touch cursor when you are in the edit field and right arrow once, Jaws in this case will say "of 2" because in the edit field is the "1" and then the "of 2" is spoken.

 

But as others pointed out, if you route Jaws to PC, then go to the top of the page and arrow down you should also hear 1 / 2 or whatever the number of pages is, if you have 10 pages and are on page 6 it would say 6 of 10

 

Whether one or the other is easier and quicker every body has to decide, I guess Pressing Control + Shift + N and then route Jaws to PC and Say Line is a fairly quick and easy combination and it's maybe a bit more reliable in an accessible PDF.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Hi, Brian. The CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command does not tell you how many pages are in the document. Besides that, if the document is not text, and requires OCR scanning through JAWS, the CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command will not be available.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

 

Mario,

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but I thought that dialog told you the total number of pages, if you wait for it, as well.
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It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

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moderated Re: question on downloading from YouTube

Marty Hutchings
 

I use Pontes Media Downloader.  It is free and it works.

On 8/4/2021 8:35 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

 


moderated Re: Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I would try two things:

 

Close Narrator if it's running and/or Jaws 2020

Open Jaws 2021 either with a keyboard shortcut if you set one or type Windows Key + R and type Jaws2021 without spaces and press enter

Wait maybe 10 seconds and then press Jaws Key + Escape, this will unmute the sound card and set the volume to a medium level should any of this be an issue

 

If that does not help and you have Jaws 2021 set up to start at the login screen and also after logging in simply close everything and restart your computer.

If that also doesn't help could you maybe have set Jaws 2021 to use a different synthesizer? Do you have a USB or Bluetooth headset on your PC? If so maybe check to see if Jaws 2021 is speaking there.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:26 AM
To: Jaws users list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

 

Something strange this going on this morning, Jaws 2021 isn’t speaking. Using Narrator it says it is running but no sound. Had to start Jaws 2020 which seems OK. How do I get 2021 backing to talking ?  Tom


moderated Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

T. Civitello
 

Something strange this going on this morning, Jaws 2021 isn’t speaking. Using Narrator it says it is running but no sound. Had to start Jaws 2020 which seems OK. How do I get 2021 backing to talking ?  Tom

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