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Re: question on downloading from YouTube

Marty Hutchings

#91378

I use Pontes Media Downloader. It is free and it works.

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On 8/4/2021 8:35 PM, Jeff Lukacsena wrote:

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

Re: Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

#91377

I would try two things:

Close Narrator if it's running and/or Jaws 2020

Open Jaws 2021 either with a keyboard shortcut if you set one or type Windows Key + R and type Jaws2021 without spaces and press enter

Wait maybe 10 seconds and then press Jaws Key + Escape, this will unmute the sound card and set the volume to a medium level should any of this be an issue

If that does not help and you have Jaws 2021 set up to start at the login screen and also after logging in simply close everything and restart your computer.

If that also doesn't help could you maybe have set Jaws 2021 to use a different synthesizer? Do you have a USB or Bluetooth headset on your PC? If so maybe check to see if Jaws 2021 is speaking there.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:26 AM
To: Jaws users list <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

Something strange this going on this morning, Jaws 2021 isn’t speaking. Using Narrator it says it is running but no sound. Had to start Jaws 2020 which seems OK. How do I get 2021 backing to talking ? Tom

Jaws 2021 not talking this morning

T. Civitello

#91376

Something strange this going on this morning, Jaws 2021 isn’t speaking. Using Narrator it says it is running but no sound. Had to start Jaws 2020 which seems OK. How do I get 2021 backing to talking ? Tom

Re: number of pages in a PDF

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

#91375

Control + Shift + N actually does tell you how many pages, but you have to route Jaws to PC and do a say line.

If you use the PC cursor it's in the edit field and tabbing just takes you from the edit field to OK and Cancel and back into the edit field, but if you do a say line with the Jaws cursor you hear this (I used a 2-page PDF for this):

I press Control + Shift + N:

Go To Page dialog‑
Page: Edit 1

I now press tab:

OK Button

Tab again:

Cancel Button

And tab one more time to go back to the edit field:

Page: Edit 1

I now route JAWS to PC and do a Say Line (Jaws Key + NumPad 8):

Page: 1 of 2

You can also switch to the touch cursor when you are in the edit field and right arrow once, Jaws in this case will say "of 2" because in the edit field is the "1" and then the "of 2" is spoken.

But as others pointed out, if you route Jaws to PC, then go to the top of the page and arrow down you should also hear 1 / 2 or whatever the number of pages is, if you have 10 pages and are on page 6 it would say 6 of 10

Whether one or the other is easier and quicker every body has to decide, I guess Pressing Control + Shift + N and then route Jaws to PC and Say Line is a fairly quick and easy combination and it's maybe a bit more reliable in an accessible PDF.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 2:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

Hi, Brian. The CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command does not tell you how many pages are in the document. Besides that, if the document is not text, and requires OCR scanning through JAWS, the CONTROL plus SHIFT plus N command will not be available.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

Mario,

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but I thought that dialog told you the total number of pages, if you wait for it, as well.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

~ William Plomer

Re: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Glenn / Lenny

#91374

That is the trouble I have with Office 2000 and Jaws 2019.

So I keep an older copy of Jaws on the computer for working in Excel.

Or another option is to install Libra Office, which is free, and work with Excel documents with that.

Glenn

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----- Original Message -----

From: Marty Hutchings

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 11:09 AM

Subject: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Hello, I am running Office 16, Windows 10 and the latest JFW21 and after installing the last update of JAWS, I no longer can navigate through an Excel document using my arrow keys. Has any one else found this and what do I do to get it back?

Re: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Marty Hutchings

#91373

Sieghard, Wow, you got it on the first try. I have no idea how that happened. I don't even know which key is the Scroll lock. I had to turn on JAWS keyboard help to find it. My daughter was using my computer to register for girls high school golf. Maybe she used that feature.

Thanks so much.

Marty

The Gospel is freely accessible to all.

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On 8/5/2021 10:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Have you accidently turned on scroll lock?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Hello, I am running Office 16, Windows 10 and the latest JFW21 and after installing the last update of JAWS, I no longer can navigate through an Excel document using my arrow keys. Has any one else found this and what do I do to get it back?

Re: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

#91372

Have you accidently turned on scroll lock?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Silence when navigating an Excel document

Hello, I am running Office 16, Windows 10 and the latest JFW21 and after installing the last update of JAWS, I no longer can navigate through an Excel document using my arrow keys. Has any one else found this and what do I do to get it back?

Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

#91371

Depending on how many files you want to convert online converts are also a good option.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 9:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

I had not realized that Switch is free. Other NCH software I had tried was only free for a few uses.

IF audio conversion is all one needs, then it looks like a great choice.

GoldWave is more for advanced editing and can do conversion.

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

On Aug 5, 2021, at 8:50 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:

Hi,

Both Gold Wave and Switch can convert, but Gold Wave costs $40 while Switch is free. You can get it at:

https://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

David

Silence when navigating an Excel document

Marty Hutchings

#91370

Hello, I am running Office 16, Windows 10 and the latest JFW21 and after installing the last update of JAWS, I no longer can navigate through an Excel document using my arrow keys. Has any one else found this and what do I do to get it back?

Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#91369

I had not realized that Switch is free. Other NCH software I had tried was only free for a few uses.

IF audio conversion is all one needs, then it looks like a great choice.

GoldWave is more for advanced editing and can do conversion.

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

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On Aug 5, 2021, at 8:50 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:

Hi,

Both Gold Wave and Switch can convert, but Gold Wave costs $40 while Switch is free. You can get it at:

https://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

David

Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

David Kingsbury

#91368

Hi,

Both Gold Wave and Switch can convert, but Gold Wave costs $40 while Switch is free. You can get it at:

https://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

David

Re: question on downloading from YouTube

Mario

#91367

PMD is also totally free, as in it's not a 30 day trial.

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-------- Original Message --------
From: Richard Turner [mailto:richardturner42@...]
Subject: question on downloading from YouTube
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2021, 12:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
I like Ponties Media Downloader.
The latest version will even download an entire playlist into its own
folder.
I found the below note from the developer on the blind tech site. You do
not need a subscription to YouTube.

Hi, everybody!
I've noticed some discussions here about Pontes Media Downloader and I
just want to let you all know that we've just released version 3 of the
program.
The major technical difference is that version 3 has a javafx interface
instead of the older dot net interface.
Also it includes ffmpeg 4 for converting and, of course the latest
version of youtube-dl for downloading.
It comes with oracle java 8 included and accessibility features enabled
(tested with nvda and narator on windows).

I've tried to keep the same keyboard shortcuts as in version 2.1 There
is also a window that lists all the shortcuts (control k opens it)
I've added a downloads table in which you can manage individual
downloads. It is possible to download more than one file at a time.
Default setting is 3 downloads simultaneously.
The program will automatically detect a playlist now and will open a
window where you can choose the elements from the playlist that you want
to download. By default all items are checked.  You can check/uncheck an
item from the list with space All the checked items will be added to the
downloads table
You can also view each download's log (control g) This is useful if for
some reason a file was not downloaded (usually the last line of the log
is the error)

The downside is that the installer is bigger (around 70 mb in windows)
and it takes more space on the hdd (around 250 mb mostly because of java
and ffmpeg)
The major advantage is that the program is now cross-platform (there are
also mac and linux versions available).
The official webpage of the program is here
http://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd <http://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd>

You can download the program from here:
Windows version (32 and 64 bit)
http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_install_v3.exe
<http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_install_v3.exe>
Mac OsX version (64 bit)
http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_v3_osx.zip
<http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_v3_osx.zip>
Linux (Debian based, 64 bit)
http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/pmd_3.0.2-190302_amd64.deb
<http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/pmd_3.0.2-190302_amd64.deb>

Version 2.1 will remain available (for those who just need a simpler
utility) at
http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pontes_media_downloader_install_2_1.exe 

<http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pontes_media_downloader_install_2_1.exe> 

Pontes Media Downloader is just a friendly interface for youtube-dl - a
wonderful command line utility that does all the complicated media
extraction.
Have fun using Pontes Media Downloader!

<https://groups.io/g/blindtech/topic/pontes_media_downloader/30195310?20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,30195310#>

https://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd
<https://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd>

Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas,average minds discuss events, small minds
discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

On Aug 4, 2021, at 7:51 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

﻿

Hi Jeff,

Applian Replay media capture. The free version(demo) downloads 100%
YouTube and 50% everybody else. HTH

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jeff
Lukacsena
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 4, 2021 10:36 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* question on downloading from YouTube

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download
stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set
of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but
if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

Re: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

Marty Hutchings

#91366

I use Switch.

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On 8/4/2021 5:07 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

i'm sure there are lots of audio conversion programs out there.
GoldWave has a nice batch mode that takes a little time to learn its various options; but is well worth it.

Or if it is just a few files, you can open them and do a save as and pick the format you want.

www.goldwave.com

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:22 PM, leonard morris <lmorris1953@...> wrote:

Have you tried gold wave

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Cliff Self <cliff@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 6:10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Converting WMA files to MP3 with JAWS

I used to use VLC for this, but now it is even less accessible than it was before. Any suggestions for a safe and easy way to convert files?

Thanks,

Cliff

Re: number of pages in a PDF

Bill White

#91365

Hi, Brian. With which other screen readers have you experimented with Adobe Acrobat DC reader besides NVDA? When I tried Narrator, it wouldn't read even a simple pdf which was completely text. In a previous message you wrote:

I'd bring this up with Freedom Scientific/Vispero support. They are not reading information that is part and parcel of that dialog, and that is clearly exposed such that other screen readers can see it.

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: number of pages in a PDF

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 07:19 PM, Bill White wrote:

there is no way to arrow down to a total page announcement, or to tab to any other announceme

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I just want to emphasize that there should be no need to arrow down or up. The way this dialog is presented, visually, is such that you see, "Page 3 of 70," on a single line with the words, "Page," and "of 70," being fixed parts of the dialog text when the dialog comes up, and the edit box for 3 (or the respective page number) being placed between those two fixed parts. I have no idea why it would stop reading after Page, Edit 1, type in text. I would have expected, Page, edit 1, type in text, of {total number in that document}.

Jaws is omitting the latter part of the dialog content.

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

~ William Plomer

Re: question on downloading from YouTube

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>

#91364

I like Ponties Media Downloader.

The latest version will even download an entire playlist into its own folder.

I found the below note from the developer on the blind tech site. You do not need a subscription to YouTube.

Hi, everybody! I've noticed some discussions here about Pontes Media Downloader and I just want to let you all know that we've just released version 3 of the program. The major technical difference is that version 3 has a javafx interface instead of the older dot net interface. Also it includes ffmpeg 4 for converting and, of course the latest version of youtube-dl for downloading. It comes with oracle java 8 included and accessibility features enabled (tested with nvda and narator on windows). I've tried to keep the same keyboard shortcuts as in version 2.1 There is also a window that lists all the shortcuts (control k opens it) I've added a downloads table in which you can manage individual downloads. It is possible to download more than one file at a time. Default setting is 3 downloads simultaneously. The program will automatically detect a playlist now and will open a window where you can choose the elements from the playlist that you want to download. By default all items are checked. You can check/uncheck an item from the list with space All the checked items will be added to the downloads table You can also view each download's log (control g) This is useful if for some reason a file was not downloaded (usually the last line of the log is the error) The downside is that the installer is bigger (around 70 mb in windows) and it takes more space on the hdd (around 250 mb mostly because of java and ffmpeg) The major advantage is that the program is now cross-platform (there are also mac and linux versions available). The official webpage of the program is here http://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd You can download the program from here: Windows version (32 and 64 bit) http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_install_v3.exe Mac OsX version (64 bit) http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/Pmd_v3_osx.zip Linux (Debian based, 64 bit) http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pmd/pmd_3.0.2-190302_amd64.deb Version 2.1 will remain available (for those who just need a simpler utility) at http://pontes.ro/ro/utile/instrumente/pontes_media_downloader_install_2_1.exe Pontes Media Downloader is just a friendly interface for youtube-dl - a wonderful command line utility that does all the complicated media extraction. Have fun using Pontes Media Downloader!

https://www.pontes.ro/en/scripts/#pmd

Richard

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com

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On Aug 4, 2021, at 7:51 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

Hi Jeff,

Applian Replay media capture. The free version(demo) downloads 100% YouTube and 50% everybody else. HTH

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on downloading from YouTube

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

Re: question on downloading from YouTube

HH. Smith Jr.

#91363

Hi Jeff,

Applian Replay media capture. The free version(demo) downloads 100% YouTube and 50% everybody else. HTH

Show quoted text

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Lukacsena
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on downloading from YouTube

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

question on downloading from YouTube

Jeff Lukacsena

#91362

Hello List,

I remember that there was several programs to allow you to download stuff from YouTube. Can anyone recommend the best program, app, or set of instructions to download music from YouTube.

Also, what is the best program to split large music files.

I would think you would need a subscription to Youtube to do this, but if that not the case, please also let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff Lukacsena

Re: Group still active?

Morey Worthington

#91361

Hi Brian and all.

Thanks for info, aand did not know where the access group came from.

Now I know.

Appreciate the input.

-- 
Morey Worthington

Re: Group still active?

Brian Vogel

#91360

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 07:33 PM, James English wrote:

It's there but it's very quiet.

-
I'm confused. This group, JFW, hasn't been particularly quiet over the last several days. Maybe not at maximum activity, but still

And Windows Access for Screen Reader Users, formerly Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users, is very active indeed.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

~ William Plomer

Re: Group still active?

James English

#91359

Hi,

It's there but it's very quiet.

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On 8/5/21, Morey Worthington <worthington@...> wrote:
     Hi all.

Is this group still active?

I am asking because all the messages I get from all the groups is from:
winaccess.

Please set me straight.

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Morey Worthington