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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
I think that's what Glen and I were trying to tell *you* lol
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:50 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly The desktop icon is just a shortcut. It will not uninstall the older version of JAWS. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't have a desktop icon or shortcut just because it's there. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly But keeping an older version of JAWS is sometimes handy. Such as a discontinued feature or your current version goes screwy. I don't call that making things complicated? Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut first and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Life in Six Dots
Hi Maria, not me. I find loading and unloading a screen reader is easier using shortcuts. Paul
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: 03 August 2021 21:41 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Life in Six Dots
The desktop icon is just a shortcut. It will not uninstall the older version
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of JAWS.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:38 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't have a desktop icon or shortcut just because it's there. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly But keeping an older version of JAWS is sometimes handy. Such as a discontinued feature or your current version goes screwy. I don't call that making things complicated? Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut first and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Kevin Minor
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I think a problem with having a hot key automatically installed for JAWS is the different versions on a PC could be confused. I can picture someone invoking a version of JAWS, doing a lot of modifications for it to work with programs. Then they reboot, and JAWS starts. They try to use the modifications they made, and they don't work. After much frustration and messages to lists, it is discovered a different version of JAWS was used. Also, for those who recommend the INSERT key be used for JAWS commands, not all keyboards have that key on them. It's why the laptop layout is there. Just some thoughts. Kevin and Jilly
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 4:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
I also often do this, especially if I need to see if something is working better under a different JAWS version.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 4:48 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Me. This why I know exactly what version I am running, don't have to bother with different hotkeys or yet more unnecessary desktop icons (and you sometimes don't know where those are or how many times to hit j to get the one you want). It takes less than a second for me to type "jaws2020" or whatever. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: August 3, 2021 04:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Me. This why I know exactly what version I am running, don't have to bother with different hotkeys or yet more unnecessary desktop icons (and you sometimes don't know where those are or how many times to hit j to get the one you want). It takes less than a second for me to type "jaws2020" or whatever.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: August 3, 2021 04:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote: Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Maria Campbell
Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop?
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Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke
On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
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have a desktop icon or shortcut just because it's there.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly But keeping an older version of JAWS is sometimes handy. Such as a discontinued feature or your current version goes screwy. I don't call that making things complicated? Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut first and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Glenn / Lenny
Removing the icon from the desktop is not removing the program.
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It's just a shortcut. Glenn
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Life in Six Dots
But keeping an older version of JAWS is sometimes handy. Such as a
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discontinued feature or your current version goes screwy. I don't call that making things complicated? Paul
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: 03 August 2021 21:28 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut first and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
I've been using JAWS for windows for quite some time and not once do I
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remember instalation automaticallys etting up a hotkey; I had to do it myself. I currently don't even bother with a jaws hotkey, I just run whatever version from the run dialogue box.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: August 3, 2021 04:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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JM Casey
Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install
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j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut first and see what happens.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Life in Six Dots
They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say
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CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut CTRL+ALT+J would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by default recently though. Paul
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42 .com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f 640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e yJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000& ;sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
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Hi all,
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It is easy to load and unload both screen readers once you have them setup correctly. By default both JAWS and NVDA have a keyboard shortcut to shut them down: JAWS: Insert + F4 NVDA: Insert + Q You need to go into the settings to stop them asking if you would like to quit the screen reader. The fast way to do that in JAWS is to run the Start Up Wizard and uncheck "Prompt to confirm when exiting JAWS". With NVDA it can be found in the General section of Settings. To start each screen reader you will need to setup a keyboard shortcut in Properties. For JAWS set is as: CTRL+ALT+J. For NVDA set is as CTRL+ALT+N. Once that is done it is very easy to load and unload each screen reader. Paul
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 August 2021 21:06 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Boy, you had me worried there, I have already been wrong twice this year and it's only just August! Had I been wrong with this there would have been no more room if I wanted to end this year with no more than 3 times 😊 Â
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly  You are right. They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such.  I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed.  Thanks,   Richard Software means never having to say you're finished  Web site: www.turner42.com  -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly  Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J.  -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly  Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws.  The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation.  Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable.  You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. .     Richard Software means never having to say you're finished   -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly  Hi,  I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was.  Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off?   Warmly, Rahul  -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford                   Â
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
You are right.
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They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and such. I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate control+alt+j when needed. Thanks, Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C2a17969765274551884208d956ba1213%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637636179431704163%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cGMqAO068gdu2%2FBD1kIctv2HuaN2GKGY%2FB9inB9FyWY%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt + Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Don Mauck
I believe that the original hotkey for NvDA is alt+control+N.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: [External] : Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Literally. The only thing the desktop is useful for for a blind person is creating hotkeys. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: August 3, 2021 03:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.turner42.com__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!ekNuajRrbJHAy9cJEjeKucgDMkL6v8B1iD2GD2pIIP7nejb97KGudTnXDMxNAEI$ -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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JM Casey
Literally. The only thing the desktop is useful for for a blind person is
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creating hotkeys.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: August 3, 2021 03:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Check to see if there is a desktop shortcut. This is what allows you to create a hotkey. You can do this yourself by going into the properties of the shortcut (press alt-enter or use the context menu).
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 03:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Great. I am able to use 3 out of the 4 that Richard mentioned. Just not control+alt+j to turn jaws on. Rahul On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote: Screenreader-key plus f4 for jaws. Screenreader key + q for nvda. By -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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