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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Literally. The only thing the desktop is useful for for a blind person is
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creating hotkeys.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: August 3, 2021 03:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws. The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Check to see if there is a desktop shortcut. This is what allows you to create a hotkey. You can do this yourself by going into the properties of the shortcut (press alt-enter or use the context menu).
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 03:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Great. I am able to use 3 out of the 4 that Richard mentioned. Just not control+alt+j to turn jaws on. Rahul On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote: Screenreader-key plus f4 for jaws. Screenreader key + q for nvda. By -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Rahul Bajaj
Great. I am able to use 3 out of the 4 that Richard mentioned. Just
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not control+alt+j to turn jaws on. Rahul
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Screenreader-key plus f4 for jaws. Screenreader key + q for nvda. By default --
-- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Also you may be aware of this already, but your message seems to suggest you might not be -- if you have both programmes on your desktop you can assign hotkeys to load them. NVDA does this by default; the keystroke is usually ctrl-alt-n. A lot of people like JAWS to have one too and they usually use ctrl-alt-j. JAWS too may set one up by default. I know there used to be a lot of fuss around hotkeys and how a new JAWS instalation would remove the old hotkey. I think this may have been tweaked by FS due to peoples' discontent but I haven't gotten a new JAWS version in a few years so, I'm not sure.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 03:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Sorry. What are their shutdown and loading hotkeys? I am not aware of these. Rahul On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote: Hi. -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Madison Martin
Jaws:
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Jaws key plus f4 Control alt j NVDA: NVDA key plus q Hope this helps!! Control alt n
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 2:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Sorry. What are their shutdown and loading hotkeys? I am not aware of these. Rahul On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote: Hi. -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
Screenreader-key plus f4 for jaws. Screenreader key + q for nvda. By default you have to press enter in both programmes after executing the keystroke to confirm that you want to quit the screen-reader. I know you can change this in NVDA; not sure about JAWS (someone above seemed to suggest you could, though)
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 03:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Sorry. What are their shutdown and loading hotkeys? I am not aware of these. Rahul On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote: Hi. -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise, there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws.
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The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close without confirmation. Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is customizable. NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable. You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want. . Richard Software means never having to say you're finished Web site: www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Rahul Bajaj
Sorry. What are their shutdown and loading hotkeys? I am not aware of these.
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Rahul
On 04/08/2021, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
JM Casey
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As these programmes are not designed to work together, there's no toggle or anything, if that’s' what you're after. But why are you going to the desktop? That does seem like an unnecessary step. Both programmes have a keystroke that is meant to unload them. I suppose if you really wanted you could make some kind of script to unload one and load the other. Then maybe you could put it on the desktop and set up a hotkey for it. But it seems like more trouble than it's worth when all you have to do is hit a couple of keystrokes.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: August 3, 2021 03:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi, I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Glenn / Lenny
Both have the option to shut down without confirmation, so the respective shutdown hotkeys and loading hotkeys would be quite seamless.
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From: "Rahul Bajaj" <rahul.bajaj1038@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 2:29 PM Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly Hi,
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Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly
Rahul Bajaj
Hi,
I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws, turning on nvda and then going back to where I was. Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on and off? Warmly, Rahul -- -- Rahul Bajaj Senior Resident Fellow, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting
Mario
yes. the fix for me was to add the ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker script to the script source, and compile it. before doing so, and I don't know if this was really necessary, I removed the entry of the script that was already in the script documentation file.
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From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com] Subject: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting Date: Sunday, August 1, 2021, 6:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> Just to say that somebody else I know with Jaws 2020 has exactly the same problem whilst I do not with Jaws 2021 so it does begin to look like it is a problem with how the scripts are packaged in Jaws 2020. David Griffith Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 *From: *Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> *Sent: *01 August 2021 21:11 *To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting hello Mario! Looking at JAWS 2020, the script that this key is supposed to be bound to is "ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker" ( note the "zoom" at the begining. I a that the December reliase of JAWS 2020 has this as the key binding. If there is a zoomsoftware.jkm in your "explore my settings" area of JAWS, I would recommend removing that file or saving it someplace where you can restore it if you still find something not working. Of course you could also just go back into keyboard manager and add a keystroke for "zoomnotifyCurrentSpeaker.." SSSent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jonathan.c.cohn@icloud.com> wrote: > > If the script "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" is tagged with the control-shift-T key stroke than that is the script that is currently being run when you press the keystroke. If you are getting a message that that script can't be found than that is the wrong script and you need to find the correct script. > I looked at the JAWS 2021 Zoom Software script a little today, and the only thing the "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" script does its press a key that JAWS has bound to read the second oldest notification (is that alt-F2)? Then Zoom sends a UIA notification that the to the JAWS screen reader. > > I'll try to look more closely today, but have some family things to do. > > >> On Jul 31, 2021, at 15:05, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Jonathan, when you say to "rebind the keystroke", how is this done? I found the script that is executed with the control+shift+t keystroke which is named NotifyCurrentSpeaker, but I don't want to mess it up by trying to do something that I haven't done before. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io] >> Subject: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting >> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2021, 1:54 PM >> To: main@jfw.groups.io >> Hello, >> Zoom itself has nothing to do with the JAWS scripts and key bindings. >> I suggest you go into the keyboard manager and see if you can find the script listed there that you are trying to execute, and then rebind the keystroke if you do. To open the keyboard manager, press insert-F2 and find the keyboard manager listed there. There is a list of applications, make sure you are in the Zoom application, and then review the lists of scripts available for assigning keys to. There is a way to filter out the default scripts to limit the list. I believe the keyboard manager is driven by the ".jsd" files so if there is an error in the JAWS builtin documentation then it is possible to still get this error, but would be a big priority and fairly simple for Freedom Scientific to correct. >> >> Otherwise, you could purchase or perhaps sample Brian Hartgen excellent and often updated scripts. I have heard very good things about these scripts, but have not tried them since I primarily use Zoom on Apple products. >> Brian's web site is: >> >> http://www.hartgen.org/zoompro >> Another thing you can check is to see if you have a zoom.jkm file or something closely similar to that in your JAWS private settings files. TO To get to this, from the start menu search for Utilities JAWS , this will bring up a directory listing of several shortcuts. Select the Explore My Settings shortcut and then look for files that start with Zoom. These are customizations to zoom that were added to you that are not part of the JAWS installation and would override anything in the JAWS directories that gets checked when you repair JAWS. >> >> Best Wishes, >> Jonathan >> >> >> On Jul 31, 2021, at 13:04, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> using JAWS 2020 when attending a Zoom meeting, until now, pressing JAWS+shift+t announces unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker. I've downloaded and ran the installer from Freedom Scientific's download page to repair my installation (which completed successfully), but the problem persists. pressing JAWS+numrow 3 and then control+numrow 2 does announce who is speaking, which lead me to that there is a problem with the script. >> >> talking to some aquaintances via Zoom who are computer literate and somewhat tech savvy, it was suggested that I uninstall and reinstall the Zoom client. >> >> will doing so help to fix the problem, or am I just wasting time? >> any suggestions as what to do besides calling FS Monday? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > .
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Re: Jaws2021 Facebook Live
O.Addison Gethers
Hello I assumed anybody doesn’t have answer for me. Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 6:59 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Jaws2021 Facebook Live
Hi All I have jaws2021 and desktop and laptop computer windows10 . Does anyone know how to do facebook live by yourself only ? I want to do facebook live with myself to posted live for all of my friends and family on facebook. Since facebook has updated the website if I’m not mistaken I have to tab til I hear its say what on your mind edit to type then press tab to it said more button press enter Addison
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Re: Test message
Jeff Christiansen
Probably just quiet
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Sent From My Mobile
On Aug 3, 2021, at 04:05, Lee Anne Atkinson <lee.atkinson@...> wrote:
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Re: check writing software?
Phillip Gross
This is something that I haven’t thought about in a long time. I used to have, probably still have somewhere, one of the check writing templates. My hand writing was never that great so I didn’t use it much. It mainly got used for agricultural purchases 20 years ago when there were still some places that didn’t take a card. At this point I write 1 check a year, and my wife writes it for me. I pay for everything else using either PayPal, my credit union’s billpay service, or on the payee’s website.
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Re: Test message
Lee Anne Atkinson
Hmmm. I received my own message so guess all is good and quiet with the list. That's great news. Take care all,
Lee Anne
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee Anne Atkinson
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 6:02 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Test message
Has the list gone quiet or am I not receiving messages?
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Lee Anne
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Test message
Lee Anne Atkinson
Has the list gone quiet or am I not receiving messages?
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Lee Anne
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Re: way to jump to particular slide while editing in PowerPoint?
Pramit
Hi Van, Have not used it for a long time but I believe while doing a slide show one can simply press the number of the slide he wants to open and press enter.
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 11:25 PM Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Google Dox
Ryan Bondroff <deafblindadvocate@...>
Does this come with a text transcript?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:10 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Google Dox
Here is a video that APH did a while ago on how to use Google Docs with Jaws. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avAFBR1ckv8 You can also visit this website called Your Tech Vision to learn more tech skills on how to use a specific program on your PC with a screen reader. thanks Best regards Michael H. Munn Member: Georgia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Georgia Member: National association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind
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Re: JAWS and Windows 11
Phillip Gross
I’ve thought about doing it with my backup computer, but, as of yet, I haven’t had the time. What have you had to find work arounds for?
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