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moderated Re: Google Dox

Ann Byrne
 

One of the features in the latest release of JAWS--about two weeks ago?--was that insert+spacebar then g would allow a person to use regular web access keys with Google docs. Press insert+spacebar then question mark to see the keys.

At 06:29 PM 8/1/2021, you wrote:
Hi,
What version of jaws are you running? I used to think that Google docs was not accessible either, but now, it’s definitely taking a turn for the better!

On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@samobile.net> wrote:

Hi is ther a class we can take that will
teach us how to use google dox with jaws and if so where can we find such a class?

I know Fredom Scientific has done some
tutorials on how t use it with jaws but we cannot see the cdoc ument and we cannot get it to work hardly at all!






moderated Re: Google Dox

Ann Byrne
 

There is a JAWS webinar on the subject.

At 06:26 PM 8/1/2021, you wrote:
Hi is ther a class we can take that will teach us how to use google dox with jaws and if so where can we find such a class?

I know Fredom Scientific has done some tutorials on how t use it with jaws but we cannot see the cdoc ument and we cannot get it to work hardly at all!




moderated Re: Google Dox

Loreal Lavigna
 

I'm using JAWS 2021 and am interested in this topic as well. The school district in my home town makes use of Google Docs, and while they are making every effort to make all documents attached to their website (agendas for board of education meetings, presentations, etc.) more accessible in every way possible, I'd like to see if there is a better way of working with Google Docs on my end.

Sincerely,
Loreal Lavigna
General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
Phone: (518)330-5188
E-Mail: LorealLavigna@gmail.com
Website: Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Dox

Hi,
What version of jaws are you running? I used to think that Google docs was not accessible either, but now, it’s definitely taking a turn for the better!

On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@samobile.net> wrote:

Hi is ther a class we can take that will teach us how to use google dox with jaws and if so where can we find such a class?

I know Fredom Scientific has done some tutorials on how t use it with jaws but we cannot see the cdoc ument and we cannot get it to work hardly at all!





moderated Re: Google Dox

Jasmine Kotsay
 

Hi,
What version of jaws are you running? I used to think that Google docs was not accessible either, but now, it’s definitely taking a turn for the better!

On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Tony Sohl <tonysohl@samobile.net> wrote:

Hi is ther a class we can take that will teach us how to use google dox with jaws and if so where can we find such a class?

I know Fredom Scientific has done some tutorials on how t use it with jaws but we cannot see the cdoc ument and we cannot get it to work hardly at all!





moderated Google Dox

Tony Sohl
 

Hi is ther a class we can take that will teach us how to use google dox with jaws and if so where can we find such a class?

I know Fredom Scientific has done some tutorials on how t use it with jaws but we cannot see the cdoc ument and we cannot get it to work hardly at all!


moderated JAWS and Windows 11

Loreal Lavigna
 

Has anyone on the list upgraded to the beta preview of Windows 11?  What are your thoughts?  My laptop suddenly upgraded two days ago to Windows 11.  I didn’t even think I was a windows insider, but apparently I was and wasn’t even aware of it.  I don’t see too many issues or deal breakers for me with regard to JAWS and Windows 11 so far.  There are a few things I’m looking up workarounds for and have managed to find most of what I’ve been searching out online, but I’m wondering what anyone else on the list thinks of the new Windows.

 

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  LorealLavigna@...

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal

 


moderated Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

Mario
 

Jonathan, if you don't mind, I'll email you off list as this thread might be considered as cluttering the list and triggering members to complain.


the only occurrance of ksZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker is in the statement of that script.
find the keyboard manager listed there. There is a list of applications, make sure you are in the Zoom application, and then review the lists of scripts available for assigning keys to. There is a way to filter out the default scripts to limit the list. I believe the keyboard manager is driven by the ".jsd" files so if there is an error in the JAWS builtin documentation then it is possible to still get this error, but would be a big priority and fairly simple for Freedom Scientific to correct.

Otherwise, you could purchase or perhaps sample Brian Hartgen excellent and often updated scripts. I have heard very good things about these scripts, but have not tried them since I primarily use Zoom on Apple products.
Brian's web site is:

http://www.hartgen.org/zoompro
Another thing you can check is to see if you have a zoom.jkm file or something closely similar to that in your JAWS private settings files. TO To get to this, from the start menu search for Utilities JAWS , this will bring up a directory listing of several shortcuts. Select the Explore My Settings shortcut and then look for files that start with Zoom. These are customizations to zoom that were added to you that are not part of the JAWS installation and would override anything in the JAWS directories that gets checked when you repair JAWS.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan

On Jul 31, 2021, at 13:04, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

using JAWS 2020 when attending a Zoom meeting, until now, pressing JAWS+shift+t announces unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker. I've downloaded and ran the installer from Freedom Scientific's download page to repair my installation (which completed successfully), but the problem persists. pressing JAWS+numrow 3 and then control+numrow 2 does announce who is speaking, which lead me to that there is a problem with the script.

talking to some aquaintances via Zoom who are computer literate and somewhat tech savvy, it was suggested that I uninstall and reinstall the Zoom client.

will doing so help to fix the problem, or am I just wasting time?
any suggestions as what to do besides calling FS Monday?











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moderated Jaws2021 Facebook Live

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All

I have jaws2021 and desktop and laptop  computer  windows10 . Does anyone  know how to do facebook live  by yourself  only  ? I want to do facebook live  with myself  to posted live for all of my friends and family  on facebook. Since facebook has updated the website  if I’m not mistaken  I have to tab til  I hear its say what on your mind   edit  to type  then press tab to it said more  button  press enter 

Addison


moderated Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

David Griffith
 

Just to say that somebody else I know with Jaws      2020 has exactly the same problem whilst I do not with Jaws 2021 so it does begin to  look like it is  a problem with how the scripts are packaged in Jaws 2020.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
Sent: 01 August 2021 21:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

 

hello Mario!

Looking at JAWS 2020, the script that this key is supposed to be  bound to is "ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker" ( note the "zoom" at  the begining.  I a

that the December reliase of JAWS 2020 has this as the key binding. If there is a zoomsoftware.jkm in your "explore my settings" area of JAWS, I would recommend removing that file or saving it someplace where you can restore it if you still find something not working.

Of course you could also just go back into keyboard manager and add a keystroke for "zoomnotifyCurrentSpeaker.."

 

SSSent   from my iPhone

 

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jonathan.c.cohn@...> wrote:

>

> If the script "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" is tagged with the control-shift-T  key stroke than that is the script that is currently being run when you press the keystroke. If  you are getting a message that that script can't be found than that is the wrong script and you need to find the correct script.

> I looked at the JAWS 2021 Zoom Software script a little today, and the only thing the "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" script does its press a key that JAWS has bound to read the second oldest notification (is that alt-F2)?  Then Zoom sends a UIA notification that the to the JAWS screen reader.

>

> I'll try to look more closely today, but have some family things to do.

>

>

>> On Jul 31, 2021, at 15:05, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

>>

>> Jonathan, when you say to "rebind the keystroke", how is this done? I found the script that is executed with the control+shift+t keystroke which is named NotifyCurrentSpeaker, but I don't want to mess it up by trying to do something that I haven't done before.

>>

>> -------- Original Message --------

>> From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn@...]

>> Subject: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

>> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

>> To: main@jfw.groups.io

>> Hello,

>> Zoom itself has nothing to do with the JAWS scripts and key bindings.

>> I suggest you go into the keyboard manager and see if you can find the script listed there that you are trying to execute, and then rebind the keystroke if you do. To open the keyboard manager, press insert-F2 and find the keyboard manager listed there. There is a list of applications, make sure you are in the Zoom application, and then review the lists of scripts available for assigning keys to. There is a way to filter out the default scripts to limit the list. I believe the keyboard manager is driven by the ".jsd" files so if there is an error in the JAWS builtin documentation then it is possible to still get this error, but would be a big priority and fairly simple for Freedom Scientific to correct.

>>

>> Otherwise, you could purchase or perhaps sample Brian Hartgen excellent and often updated scripts. I have heard very good things about these scripts, but have not tried them since I primarily use Zoom on Apple products.

>> Brian's web site is:

>>

>> http://www.hartgen.org/zoompro

>> Another thing  you can check is to see if you have a zoom.jkm file or something closely similar to that in your JAWS private settings files. TO To get to this, from the start menu search for Utilities JAWS , this will bring up a directory listing of several shortcuts. Select the Explore My Settings shortcut and then look for files that start with Zoom. These are customizations to zoom that were added to you that are not part of the JAWS installation and would override anything in the JAWS directories that gets checked when you repair JAWS.

>>

>> Best Wishes,

>> Jonathan

>>

>>

>> On Jul 31, 2021, at 13:04, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

>>

>> using JAWS 2020 when attending a Zoom meeting, until now, pressing JAWS+shift+t announces unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker. I've downloaded and ran the installer from Freedom Scientific's download page to repair my installation (which completed successfully), but the problem persists. pressing JAWS+numrow 3 and then control+numrow 2 does announce who is speaking, which lead me to that there is a problem with the script.

>>

>> talking to some aquaintances via Zoom who are computer literate and somewhat tech savvy, it was suggested that I uninstall and reinstall the Zoom client.

>>

>> will doing so help to fix the problem, or am I just wasting time?

>> any suggestions as what to do besides calling FS Monday?

>>

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moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Dave Durber
 


Ceigard:
 
That is all fine and dandy for individuals like yourself but, I find it an intolerable intrusion and a distraction, which is why I would like to be able to turn this google function off. I do not like having JAWS echo characters as I type for the same reason.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter.

In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed.

Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL.

Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Bill:

 

I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button.

Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Mark,

What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list.  If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read.  If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow.

Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage."  These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons.  You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later.

 

 


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Is Code::Block Accessible?

Life in Six Dots
 

Hi all,

 

Can anyone tell me if Code::Blocks is accessible with JAWS? Preferably with a braille display.

 

Many thanks, Paul


moderated Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

Cohn, Jonathan
 

hello Mario!
Looking at JAWS 2020, the script that this key is supposed to be bound to is "ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker" ( note the "zoom" at the begining. I a
that the December reliase of JAWS 2020 has this as the key binding. If there is a zoomsoftware.jkm in your "explore my settings" area of JAWS, I would recommend removing that file or saving it someplace where you can restore it if you still find something not working.
Of course you could also just go back into keyboard manager and add a keystroke for "zoomnotifyCurrentSpeaker.."

SSSent from my iPhone

On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jonathan.c.cohn@icloud.com> wrote:

If the script "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" is tagged with the control-shift-T key stroke than that is the script that is currently being run when you press the keystroke. If you are getting a message that that script can't be found than that is the wrong script and you need to find the correct script.
I looked at the JAWS 2021 Zoom Software script a little today, and the only thing the "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" script does its press a key that JAWS has bound to read the second oldest notification (is that alt-F2)? Then Zoom sends a UIA notification that the to the JAWS screen reader.

I'll try to look more closely today, but have some family things to do.


On Jul 31, 2021, at 15:05, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jonathan, when you say to "rebind the keystroke", how is this done? I found the script that is executed with the control+shift+t keystroke which is named NotifyCurrentSpeaker, but I don't want to mess it up by trying to do something that I haven't done before.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io]
Subject: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2021, 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hello,
Zoom itself has nothing to do with the JAWS scripts and key bindings.
I suggest you go into the keyboard manager and see if you can find the script listed there that you are trying to execute, and then rebind the keystroke if you do. To open the keyboard manager, press insert-F2 and find the keyboard manager listed there. There is a list of applications, make sure you are in the Zoom application, and then review the lists of scripts available for assigning keys to. There is a way to filter out the default scripts to limit the list. I believe the keyboard manager is driven by the ".jsd" files so if there is an error in the JAWS builtin documentation then it is possible to still get this error, but would be a big priority and fairly simple for Freedom Scientific to correct.

Otherwise, you could purchase or perhaps sample Brian Hartgen excellent and often updated scripts. I have heard very good things about these scripts, but have not tried them since I primarily use Zoom on Apple products.
Brian's web site is:

http://www.hartgen.org/zoompro
Another thing you can check is to see if you have a zoom.jkm file or something closely similar to that in your JAWS private settings files. TO To get to this, from the start menu search for Utilities JAWS , this will bring up a directory listing of several shortcuts. Select the Explore My Settings shortcut and then look for files that start with Zoom. These are customizations to zoom that were added to you that are not part of the JAWS installation and would override anything in the JAWS directories that gets checked when you repair JAWS.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan


On Jul 31, 2021, at 13:04, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

using JAWS 2020 when attending a Zoom meeting, until now, pressing JAWS+shift+t announces unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker. I've downloaded and ran the installer from Freedom Scientific's download page to repair my installation (which completed successfully), but the problem persists. pressing JAWS+numrow 3 and then control+numrow 2 does announce who is speaking, which lead me to that there is a problem with the script.

talking to some aquaintances via Zoom who are computer literate and somewhat tech savvy, it was suggested that I uninstall and reinstall the Zoom client.

will doing so help to fix the problem, or am I just wasting time?
any suggestions as what to do besides calling FS Monday?











.







moderated Re: cyber security software

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

Webroot has done a wonderful job for me and my wife.  The interface is not the easiest but is accessible with Jaws  using the JAWS scan key.  Windows Defender is great as well and it all depends on your own specific needs as the various providers do better in some areas than others and offer different levels. 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Arrabito
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: cyber security software

 

Hi all,

 

I hope all of you are keeping well.

 

I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 and JFW 2021. I am considering installing cyber security software. I would welcome any recommendation of cyber security software that is accessible with JFW. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob


moderated Re: cyber security software

 

Windows Security.  You're not going to find any third-party option that's more accessible or that is "better" overall and over time.

Look at the most recent testing results from the following antivirus/security testing labs, along with the historical results from the past several years if you want to see how Windows Security/Defender has been performing.  Windows Security has been solidly in the top 10, often top 5, and frequently beats out several well-known competitors that one must pay for.

AV Test

AV Comparatives

SE Labs  (Reports Page)

MRG Effitas  (360 Protection Testing Category)


Notice how any given one of the "routinely in the top 10" products varies in position among testing labs, and among testing cycles for a given testing lab.  The differences between numbers one and ten in these lists is seldom of any real consequence.  If something is consistently in the top ten over time and over repeated tests, and you can check for other testing labs if you so choose, it's way more than "just adequate" in protecting you.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated cyber security software

Robert Arrabito
 

Hi all,

 

I hope all of you are keeping well.

 

I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 and JFW 2021. I am considering installing cyber security software. I would welcome any recommendation of cyber security software that is accessible with JFW. Thank you.

 

 

Regards,

Rob


moderated Re: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting

Cohn, Jonathan
 

If the script "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" is tagged with the control-shift-T key stroke than that is the script that is currently being run when you press the keystroke. If you are getting a message that that script can't be found than that is the wrong script and you need to find the correct script.
I looked at the JAWS 2021 Zoom Software script a little today, and the only thing the "NotifyCurrentSpeaker" script does its press a key that JAWS has bound to read the second oldest notification (is that alt-F2)? Then Zoom sends a UIA notification that the to the JAWS screen reader.

I'll try to look more closely today, but have some family things to do.

On Jul 31, 2021, at 15:05, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jonathan, when you say to "rebind the keystroke", how is this done? I found the script that is executed with the control+shift+t keystroke which is named NotifyCurrentSpeaker, but I don't want to mess it up by trying to do something that I haven't done before.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io]
Subject: can't identify speaker in Zoom meeting
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2021, 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Hello,
Zoom itself has nothing to do with the JAWS scripts and key bindings.
I suggest you go into the keyboard manager and see if you can find the script listed there that you are trying to execute, and then rebind the keystroke if you do. To open the keyboard manager, press insert-F2 and find the keyboard manager listed there. There is a list of applications, make sure you are in the Zoom application, and then review the lists of scripts available for assigning keys to. There is a way to filter out the default scripts to limit the list. I believe the keyboard manager is driven by the ".jsd" files so if there is an error in the JAWS builtin documentation then it is possible to still get this error, but would be a big priority and fairly simple for Freedom Scientific to correct.

Otherwise, you could purchase or perhaps sample Brian Hartgen excellent and often updated scripts. I have heard very good things about these scripts, but have not tried them since I primarily use Zoom on Apple products.
Brian's web site is:

http://www.hartgen.org/zoompro
Another thing you can check is to see if you have a zoom.jkm file or something closely similar to that in your JAWS private settings files. TO To get to this, from the start menu search for Utilities JAWS , this will bring up a directory listing of several shortcuts. Select the Explore My Settings shortcut and then look for files that start with Zoom. These are customizations to zoom that were added to you that are not part of the JAWS installation and would override anything in the JAWS directories that gets checked when you repair JAWS.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan


On Jul 31, 2021, at 13:04, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

using JAWS 2020 when attending a Zoom meeting, until now, pressing JAWS+shift+t announces unknown script call to: ZoomNotifyCurrentSpeaker. I've downloaded and ran the installer from Freedom Scientific's download page to repair my installation (which completed successfully), but the problem persists. pressing JAWS+numrow 3 and then control+numrow 2 does announce who is speaking, which lead me to that there is a problem with the script.

talking to some aquaintances via Zoom who are computer literate and somewhat tech savvy, it was suggested that I uninstall and reinstall the Zoom client.

will doing so help to fix the problem, or am I just wasting time?
any suggestions as what to do besides calling FS Monday?











.







moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Bob Kennedy
 

Hey Mike,

It sounds more like a Jaws issue than Google. I hate hearing the repeat myself, especially when I'm logging in and Jaws says star star star for my password.

You may have to go into settings for Jaws and save it especially for Google. Right now I can't tell you exactly how to do that because I don't do it that often and after the stroke, memory just isn't what it used to be. But you're a smart guy and I know you'll figure it out...

On Sunday, August 1, 2021, 12:10:04 PM EDT, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


Hi again Dave,
 
Okay, if I use Google as my search engine and any other homepage other than, www.google.com/, I don't have Jaws repeating what I type when I type into the search field.  I find Jaws repeating what I type very irritating and using the Google .com homepage is the only homepage that'll do this.  I'm not getting any sort of predictive searches populating and being spoken, only what I'm typing into the search field of the Google homepage.  I've signed into my Google account and turned off all necessary settings that I can find to stop this, saved the settings and pressed enter on the Okay button, but Jaws repeating what I type continues in the search field.
 
I've also turned off settings in Waterfox for saving history, predictive searches, suggested websites, search as I type but still as long as I use Google as the homepage the Jaws repeating what I type continues.  Others may not find this irritating, but I do, so I'm just going to use a blank page or something like Startpage as a homepage.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter.

In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed.

Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL.

Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Bill:

 

I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button.

Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Mark,

What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list.  If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read.  If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow.

Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage."  These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons.  You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later.

 

 


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Mike B.
 


Hi again Dave,
 
Okay, if I use Google as my search engine and any other homepage other than, www.google.com/, I don't have Jaws repeating what I type when I type into the search field.  I find Jaws repeating what I type very irritating and using the Google .com homepage is the only homepage that'll do this.  I'm not getting any sort of predictive searches populating and being spoken, only what I'm typing into the search field of the Google homepage.  I've signed into my Google account and turned off all necessary settings that I can find to stop this, saved the settings and pressed enter on the Okay button, but Jaws repeating what I type continues in the search field.
 
I've also turned off settings in Waterfox for saving history, predictive searches, suggested websites, search as I type but still as long as I use Google as the homepage the Jaws repeating what I type continues.  Others may not find this irritating, but I do, so I'm just going to use a blank page or something like Startpage as a homepage.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter.

In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed.

Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL.

Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Bill:

 

I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button.

Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Mark,

What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list.  If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read.  If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow.

Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage."  These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons.  You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later.

 

 


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I don't find this a bother at all in Google, I just type what I want to type, if something pops up which is what I want then good and if not then I just finish typing my search term and press enter.

In any case, you have to actually arrow down to get these search suggestions as you type, maybe they are showing up visually for a sighted person, but Jaws never speaks anything other than what I just typed.

Of course I am actually going to www.Google.com and type into the search edit combo box, I never use the address bar unless I want to enter an actual URL.

Having said that, turning auto complete or whatever you want to call it is easy for the address bar, I quite like it because when I go to websites I visit regularly I just have to type the first couple of letters and press enter when I hear the correct one. For example, if I want to go to Amazon.ca I typically get the suggestion after typing just the A

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Bill:

 

I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button.

Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Mark,

What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list.  If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read.  If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow.

Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage."  These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons.  You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later.

 

 


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Bill White
 

Hi, Dave. If you have a Google account, you can sign in, and, under the Settings menu that appears at the bottom of the Google Search Page, you can click Search Settings. Under that category, you can turn off Popular Searches. Once this is turned off, you won't get search suggestions in Google.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Bill:

 

I use Waterfox as my browser. I use duckduckgo.com, as my default search engine. When I need to use google.com and enter the search edit fieled, as soon as I start typing, google.com starts performing its delimited word function, however, I do not have this problem, when I perform searches using duckduckgo.com. When I log into my google.com account, I do not seem to be able to find where to turn this annoying function off? Can you or anyone help me?

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi, Sieghard. I don't get a more options button either, but I also have predictability turned off in all my browsers, because I want to type in exactly what I am searching for, without my browser giving me phrases to search for which I didn't want.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

I agree with Brian and I am not sure what all these More Options buttons are because I certainly don't get them. When I just brought up a list of buttons on the Google home page I only had 6, then when I maximized the Window I had 8, but only because when the Window was maximized "Google Search" and "I'm Feeling Lucky" showed up twice. I don't even get a single "More Options" button.

Not sure if Mark said which browser he is using when he posted his original message, but that would be good to know.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 30, 2021 4:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Mark,

What I cannot figure out is why you're using any form of buttons list.  If you want the list of recently trending searches, then get in the search edit box and down arrow, they will be read.  If you want some subset of searches you've done before, enter a couple of characters in the search edit box and down arrow.

Your original request states, " I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage."  These are not buttons, have never been buttons, and are not accessed as buttons.  You just down arrow through them and, in the case of trending searches, these constantly change and may be different if you jump out of the list or edit search box and come right back to it just a moment later.

 

 


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer

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