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moderated Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Brian,
The difference is that the Jaws command works in a given message where all the replies are in that one now very large message.
This is not using threading or Conversations as Outlook calls it.
You do not include the prior message in your replies; so your messages do not need this feature. Only messages where everyone is including the quoted message at the bottom will this Jaws feature be a huge blessing.
HTH,



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:



Hi Brian,

 

I’m not robin, but I just tried Control + > and Control + Less in a relatively long thread I have with my accountant regarding the 2020 year end for my company and first of all while this may not be an issue visually, there is a lot of extra babbling going on with Jaws when using Control + > whereas when I just press N it goes to the beginning of the next message and starts reading it.

I also noticed that Control + Greater often skips many messages in the thread whereas the Jaws quick nav key does not. Maybe Control + Greater does this, but it seems that the way Vispero has implemented this does it more nicely for a Jaws user.

You could say the same thing for Windows Key + B and Jaws Key + F11, both let you access the system tray, the first is a Windows shortcut and the second is a Jaws shortcut. I typically use Jaws Key + F11 because I can then use first letter navigation and I simply find it a more convenient way to do this.

 

Sent: July 30, 2021 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

 

Robin,

What follows is not meant to be critical in any way, but just to clarify things for me.

Can you tell me how this new command differs from the Outlook built-in keyboard shortcuts, when you're reading a message in its own window that's part of a conversation (AKA thread), where CTRL + < shoots you to the previous item in the thread, and CTRL + > shoots you to the next item in a thread, in the same reading window?
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Brian,

 

I’m not robin, but I just tried Control + > and Control + Less in a relatively long thread I have with my accountant regarding the 2020 year end for my company and first of all while this may not be an issue visually, there is a lot of extra babbling going on with Jaws when using Control + > whereas when I just press N it goes to the beginning of the next message and starts reading it.

I also noticed that Control + Greater often skips many messages in the thread whereas the Jaws quick nav key does not. Maybe Control + Greater does this, but it seems that the way Vispero has implemented this does it more nicely for a Jaws user.

You could say the same thing for Windows Key + B and Jaws Key + F11, both let you access the system tray, the first is a Windows shortcut and the second is a Jaws shortcut. I typically use Jaws Key + F11 because I can then use first letter navigation and I simply find it a more convenient way to do this.

 

Sent: July 30, 2021 9:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

 

Robin,

What follows is not meant to be critical in any way, but just to clarify things for me.

Can you tell me how this new command differs from the Outlook built-in keyboard shortcuts, when you're reading a message in its own window that's part of a conversation (AKA thread), where CTRL + < shoots you to the previous item in the thread, and CTRL + > shoots you to the next item in a thread, in the same reading window?
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

Afik Souffir
 

Hi

N lets you jump right to the next message in the conversation, without having to move links, signatures etc….

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 7:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

 

Robin,

What follows is not meant to be critical in any way, but just to clarify things for me.

Can you tell me how this new command differs from the Outlook built-in keyboard shortcuts, when you're reading a message in its own window that's part of a conversation (AKA thread), where CTRL + < shoots you to the previous item in the thread, and CTRL + > shoots you to the next item in a thread, in the same reading window?
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

Afik Souffir
 

Wow yes! Its so nice feature! Especially at work.

Thanks eric and all at FS for this.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 7:41 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

 

I finally got the July release installed on my work PC today (jumping from the Feb release).  I’d also just learned about the N quick navigation keystroke within messages.  This is so amazing!  If you haven’t heard about it, pressing “N” while in an open message that has a back and forth with others allows you to jump to the top of each previous message in the thread.  I am so excited about how helpful this will be here at work, where conversation threadss get long, especially when people have long signature files or many others were copied on the message. 

 

Just wanted to be sure others saw this feature. 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 



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moderated Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

 

Robin,

What follows is not meant to be critical in any way, but just to clarify things for me.

Can you tell me how this new command differs from the Outlook built-in keyboard shortcuts, when you're reading a message in its own window that's part of a conversation (AKA thread), where CTRL + < shoots you to the previous item in the thread, and CTRL + > shoots you to the next item in a thread, in the same reading window?
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing

Van Lant, Robin
 

I finally got the July release installed on my work PC today (jumping from the Feb release).  I’d also just learned about the N quick navigation keystroke within messages.  This is so amazing!  If you haven’t heard about it, pressing “N” while in an open message that has a back and forth with others allows you to jump to the top of each previous message in the thread.  I am so excited about how helpful this will be here at work, where conversation threadss get long, especially when people have long signature files or many others were copied on the message. 

 

Just wanted to be sure others saw this feature. 

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 



KeyCorp Public

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer, solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market price, indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association (“KeyBank N.A.”). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

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moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

For me Jaws Key + Control + B brings up the following when I’m on the Google.com main page:

 

Select a Button dialog‑
List1 List view‑
Google apps Button 1 of 7

Google Account: Sieghard Weitzel (sieghardw@...) Button 2 of 7

Doodle Champion Island Games! Button 3 of 7

Search by voice Button 4 of 7

Google Search Button 5 of 7

I’m Feeling Lucky Button 6 of 7

Settings Button 7 of 7

 

Having said this, once I activate the search edit field I can simply down arrow for a list of my recent searches and if there is one I want to repeat I just press enter on it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fisher
Sent: July 29, 2021 4:28 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

Hi everyone

 

Whilst on leave watching the Olympics, I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage. With mouse echo turned on, I can tell they are links to either sites I visit frequently. However, JAWS does not recognize them as links. They do come up if you use JAWS Key+Ctrl+B to display a list of buttons but the text for all options says “More Actions Button”.

 

You can tab to them but again, JAWS only reads “More Actions Button”. It is only by using Mouse Echo that JAWS will read what they are. This appears to be a quicker way to get to some favourite websites from the home screen rather than going into the menus.

 

Has anyone used these and if so, is labelling the buttons using the custom label feature the best option?

 

Cheers

 

Mark

 


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Principal - HR Systems
Water Corporation 


moderated Re: How do I make Adobe Acrobat stop automatically preparing a document for reading?

 

Unless you've explicitly chosen (and I don't even know if you can, when it comes to Adobe Reader's accessibility options) for the choices you've made at setup to apply to all users, they generally don't.

Almost any program that has options that can either apply just to an individual user, or to all users, will explicitly ask you which you wish to exercise when the install is occurring.

I would certainly believe that all the accessibility related settings of Adobe Reader are stored at the "per user" level.
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It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How do I make Adobe Acrobat stop automatically preparing a document for reading?

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Adobe only does this if Jaws is running so the simple answer would be to set up Jaws to load at the logon screen since I assume you would need to have it in order to log into your account, but then set it up so Jaws only loads for you when the desktop comes up and not for the other 2 users, problem solved.

Of course if Jaws does load for them and they unload it that will do the same thing. All my employees are sighted and of course don’t want Jaws running when they use any of the computers at the front counter and we get tons of PDF’s both accessible and image based with price lists, order forms, spec sheets for products, large product catalogues with a hundred or more pages and as long as Jaws is not running these PDF’s always open normally for my sighted staff.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: July 30, 2021 2:55 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I make Adobe Acrobat stop automatically preparing a document for reading?

 

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.  Whenever I open a PDF, Adobe automatically goes into a mode where it “prepares the document for reading.”  How do I stop this automatic action?  Below is a bit more important information about this?

 

Basically, I want to know if this is a user specific setting.  My PC has three user accounts.  While I *do* want this automatic action for my account since I am blind, I *do not* want it to automatically do this for the other two user accounts since those users are not blind.

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: printer

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Work with it in what way? I typically buy basic HP Laserjet printers which have just a couple of buttons and there really isn’t much you can or have to do on the printer itself. I guess it all depends on whether you want some sort of printer/scanner combo or just a printer, then do you want a colour printer or just a black and white? I personally hate Inkjet printers with a passion, but especially at home I may only print once every couple of month and even nowadays it seems that the ink drying up is still an issue and of course with a laser printer that is not a problem, they just work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: July 29, 2021 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: printer

 

What printers are accessible?

 

I am interesting in bying one and I'd like to be able to work with it using jaws?

 

Justin

 

 


moderated How do I make Adobe Acrobat stop automatically preparing a document for reading?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2020.  Whenever I open a PDF, Adobe automatically goes into a mode where it “prepares the document for reading.”  How do I stop this automatic action?  Below is a bit more important information about this?

 

Basically, I want to know if this is a user specific setting.  My PC has three user accounts.  While I *do* want this automatic action for my account since I am blind, I *do not* want it to automatically do this for the other two user accounts since those users are not blind.

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: printer

Feliciano G
 

I personally like the Epson workforce pro printers, their physical touch interface isn't accessible, but the epson utility for windows is great.

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On Jul 29, 2021, at 6:51 PM, Justin Williams <justin.williams2@...> wrote:



What printers are accessible?

 

I am interesting in bying one and I'd like to be able to work with it using jaws?

 

Justin

 

 


moderated printer

Justin Williams
 

What printers are accessible?

 

I am interesting in bying one and I'd like to be able to work with it using jaws?

 

Justin

 

 


moderated Re: Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

 

As soon as I type a couple of characters, which acts as a search limiter for what appears under the search edit box, I can just down-arrow and start going through the returned results, and have each announced as I traverse the items.

If I enter nothing, and just start down arrowing when in the search box, the list of recent trending searches comes up and each item in it is announced.  It sounds like this is what you're looking for.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Google Home Page - Accessing Shortcuts Below The Search Edit Box

Mark Fisher
 

Hi everyone

 

Whilst on leave watching the Olympics, I’ve finally noticed a number of what looks like recent shortcuts below the search edit box on the Google homepage. With mouse echo turned on, I can tell they are links to either sites I visit frequently. However, JAWS does not recognize them as links. They do come up if you use JAWS Key+Ctrl+B to display a list of buttons but the text for all options says “More Actions Button”.

 

You can tab to them but again, JAWS only reads “More Actions Button”. It is only by using Mouse Echo that JAWS will read what they are. This appears to be a quicker way to get to some favourite websites from the home screen rather than going into the menus.

 

Has anyone used these and if so, is labelling the buttons using the custom label feature the best option?

 

Cheers

 

Mark

 


--
Mark Fisher
Principal - HR Systems
Water Corporation 


moderated Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 04:14 PM, Ken Chernack wrote:
I would prefer to correct the cause of the problem, rather than use a workaround at this time.
-
Well, no matter what way you go at this time, including using a different platform, it's a workaround.

And you are absolutely correct that the root cause needs to be corrected.  This really could be an "oops" on the part of someone that just involves the generation of this particular promotion message, but they need to figure out why it happened to begin with in order to prevent it happening again.  And let's face it, Starbucks is a company that's both motivated to make sure its advertising is as effective as possible, particularly the type that encourages a "purchase train" even if it's with a loss leader.  They're also well aware of the PR ramifications of intentionally making something inaccessible and leaving it that way, and don't want that, either.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Ken,

Absolutely you need to bring this to Starbucks’ attention and push for a real solution for their customers using Windows.

 

IN the mean time, you can use the iPhone when needed, but keep their toes to the fire on the Windows issue.

 

Well done.

 

Richard

Software means never having to say you're finished

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

For now, in conclusion…

Brian was kind to spend some time and review the Starbucks email.

 

He found the coding logic and design confusing.

He was unable to recommend a workable solution.

 

Thus, since he and the Jaws Help folks agreed that I was asking about a difficult problem, I am going back to Starbucks Support to elevate this issue since it affects all Windows screen reader customers.

One month ago, this was not an issue. They had a working process that was easy and did the job.

Why did they break something that was not broke?

 

Yes, I could read the email on my iPhone and use Voiceover or I could ask my sighted wife to click  on the Join button, but I would prefer to correct the cause of the problem, rather than use a workaround at this time.

 

Thanks again to Brian and others for your ideas and assistance.

I will keep you posted.

 

Onward,

Ken

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

Brian, Starbucks sends the user/customer an email that has the ‘join the promo’ link, which is being read by Outlook from Office365 (and BTW I am at the latest version of Jaws).

I never get to the Starbucks website to hear ‘congratulations you have joined the promo’ message.

 

I would be happy to share the email with you. My email address is

kenchernack@....

 

Thanks.

Ken

           

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 3:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

Is the web page something that can be shared here, or must one log in to get to it?

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

Ken Chernack
 

For now, in conclusion…

Brian was kind to spend some time and review the Starbucks email.

 

He found the coding logic and design confusing.

He was unable to recommend a workable solution.

 

Thus, since he and the Jaws Help folks agreed that I was asking about a difficult problem, I am going back to Starbucks Support to elevate this issue since it affects all Windows screen reader customers.

One month ago, this was not an issue. They had a working process that was easy and did the job.

Why did they break something that was not broke?

 

Yes, I could read the email on my iPhone and use Voiceover or I could ask my sighted wife to click  on the Join button, but I would prefer to correct the cause of the problem, rather than use a workaround at this time.

 

Thanks again to Brian and others for your ideas and assistance.

I will keep you posted.

 

Onward,

Ken

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Chernack via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

Brian, Starbucks sends the user/customer an email that has the ‘join the promo’ link, which is being read by Outlook from Office365 (and BTW I am at the latest version of Jaws).

I never get to the Starbucks website to hear ‘congratulations you have joined the promo’ message.

 

I would be happy to share the email with you. My email address is

kenchernack@....

 

Thanks.

Ken

           

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 3:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Starbucks issue- promotions email

 

Is the web page something that can be shared here, or must one log in to get to it?

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Zachary Morris
 

Thank you for the information. I will look at that.

On Jul 29, 2021, at 09:23, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

If you don't want Jaws to start reading the page automatically you can turn that off.
To do so, press Jaws Key + 6 on the number row to load the Settings Centre, press Control + Shift + D to load default settings, then type "auto" in the search box and tab once to the results. You can also find this in Web / HTML / PDFs > Reading if you don't want to use the search feature, it's the fourth item in that list and it says the following:

Document and Web Pages Automatically Read When Loaded checked
Here is the description for this setting:
When selected, JAWS automatically begins reading web pages and PDF documents when loaded. Clear this check box if you do not want JAWS to automatically begin reading.
Disabling this option is especially useful if you are using JAWS in conjunction with screen magnification software as the focus is not unexpectedly moved back to the top while you are using the mouse to navigate through the document.
This checkbox is selected by default when only JAWS is running and is cleared by default when using ZoomText Fusion or FSReader.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: July 28, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Hi.

When you get to a problem site, is JAWS starting to read the page, and if so, are you immediately attempting to navigate without first hitting CTRL to stop reading it? It's the problem that I have, and what fixes it for me is to hit CTRL to silence JAWS, and then things work as expected.

Hope this works for you.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zachary Morris
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Hello all,

I am a new user to this email list. I've had Jaws since around 2018; I only initially used it as a secondary screen reader. I always heard that Jaws was a fantastic screen reader to use. However, in my discovery, I was configuring Jaws from scratch, and after I was done configuring, minus the speech/sound schemes, whenever I went onto different websites using Google Chrome, a good example is www.reddit.com or youtube.com, but when I either used the arrow keys, or the h key to cycle through headings, it would start jumping me to the top, or bottom of the page, or to a completely different part of the page, etc.. Would anybody be willing to help me troubleshoot the problem? I'm using the latest version of Jaws 2021. I can give the backup file if anyone wishes to help troubleshoot. Either that, or if any Freedom Scientific representatives are on this mailing list, are there any common settings that could cause this jumping?

Sincerely,

Zach
















moderated Re: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you don't want Jaws to start reading the page automatically you can turn that off.
To do so, press Jaws Key + 6 on the number row to load the Settings Centre, press Control + Shift + D to load default settings, then type "auto" in the search box and tab once to the results. You can also find this in Web / HTML / PDFs > Reading if you don't want to use the search feature, it's the fourth item in that list and it says the following:

Document and Web Pages Automatically Read When Loaded checked
Here is the description for this setting:
When selected, JAWS automatically begins reading web pages and PDF documents when loaded. Clear this check box if you do not want JAWS to automatically begin reading.
Disabling this option is especially useful if you are using JAWS in conjunction with screen magnification software as the focus is not unexpectedly moved back to the top while you are using the mouse to navigate through the document.
This checkbox is selected by default when only JAWS is running and is cleared by default when using ZoomText Fusion or FSReader.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: July 28, 2021 3:56 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Hi.

When you get to a problem site, is JAWS starting to read the page, and if so, are you immediately attempting to navigate without first hitting CTRL to stop reading it? It's the problem that I have, and what fixes it for me is to hit CTRL to silence JAWS, and then things work as expected.

Hope this works for you.

Kevin and Jilly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zachary Morris
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Question about Jaws 2021 jumping

Hello all,

I am a new user to this email list. I've had Jaws since around 2018; I only initially used it as a secondary screen reader. I always heard that Jaws was a fantastic screen reader to use. However, in my discovery, I was configuring Jaws from scratch, and after I was done configuring, minus the speech/sound schemes, whenever I went onto different websites using Google Chrome, a good example is www.reddit.com or youtube.com, but when I either used the arrow keys, or the h key to cycle through headings, it would start jumping me to the top, or bottom of the page, or to a completely different part of the page, etc.. Would anybody be willing to help me troubleshoot the problem? I'm using the latest version of Jaws 2021. I can give the backup file if anyone wishes to help troubleshoot. Either that, or if any Freedom Scientific representatives are on this mailing list, are there any common settings that could cause this jumping?

Sincerely,

Zach

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