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moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 01:17 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Yes, I have tried my instructions!
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Mike B,

I assumed you had.  My question was posed to Mike M, but I was unclear about that, and for that I apologize.

But I have never seen a link between whether anything was displayed in Quick Access, and note the settings you noted say "Show," which suggests, when not activated, a "hide" situation is occurring, but not that the data isn't present.

Recent Files has been around since dirt, long before Quick Access, and if files aren't showing up there I suspect some other setting in File Explorer Options is at play here, and one that has been set away from the default that ships with Windows (regardless of version), but that's purely speculative on my part.  That, or some sort of privacy focused software has tweaked something to prevent Windows from populating Recent Files.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike B.
 


I forgot to add that the following needed to be turned on in:
Settings / Personalization / Start
 
Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the taskbar and in File Explorer Quick Access Button
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

Hi Brian,
 
Yes, I have tried my instructions!  LOL  But, I don't get anything in Recent Files when I save something anywhere I save it, and I believe this is why.
When I open File Explorer it's set to open to, ThisPC, and not Quick Access, and in Folder Options on the General tab I have these options unchecked / disabled.   
 
not checked Privacy Show recently used files in Quick access check box
not checked Privacy Show frequently used folders in Quick access check box
 
I've set File Explorer to open to Quick Access and turned the above options on, and I'll see if I can populate the Recent Files folder now.  Thanks much.

 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike,

Have you tried the instructions given by Mike B in this message:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/91029?

If you have nothing in the Recent Items folder I would almost have to say something is wrong with your Windows installation.  This folder gets populated automatically, by Windows, on a constant and ongoing basis.

And I just tested out what I suggested previously.  I saved a file from Notepad on my desktop.  I opened the Recent Files folder (and if you sort it by Date Modified as opposed to File Name the ordering is more logical for what a Recent Files folder is all about) and located the item for that file, which is a shortcut (AKA symbolic link).  I deleted the item in Recent Files and it has no impact whatsoever on the actual file itself where it was saved, which is precisely what I had expected.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike B.
 


Hi Brian,
 
Yes, I have tried my instructions!  LOL  But, I don't get anything in Recent Files when I save something anywhere I save it, and I believe this is why.
When I open File Explorer it's set to open to, ThisPC, and not Quick Access, and in Folder Options on the General tab I have these options unchecked / disabled.   
 
not checked Privacy Show recently used files in Quick access check box
not checked Privacy Show frequently used folders in Quick access check box
 
I've set File Explorer to open to Quick Access and turned the above options on, and I'll see if I can populate the Recent Files folder now.  Thanks much.

 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike,

Have you tried the instructions given by Mike B in this message:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/91029?

If you have nothing in the Recent Items folder I would almost have to say something is wrong with your Windows installation.  This folder gets populated automatically, by Windows, on a constant and ongoing basis.

And I just tested out what I suggested previously.  I saved a file from Notepad on my desktop.  I opened the Recent Files folder (and if you sort it by Date Modified as opposed to File Name the ordering is more logical for what a Recent Files folder is all about) and located the item for that file, which is a shortcut (AKA symbolic link).  I deleted the item in Recent Files and it has no impact whatsoever on the actual file itself where it was saved, which is precisely what I had expected.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Mike,

Have you tried the instructions given by Mike B in this message:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/91029?

If you have nothing in the Recent Items folder I would almost have to say something is wrong with your Windows installation.  This folder gets populated automatically, by Windows, on a constant and ongoing basis.

And I just tested out what I suggested previously.  I saved a file from Notepad on my desktop.  I opened the Recent Files folder (and if you sort it by Date Modified as opposed to File Name the ordering is more logical for what a Recent Files folder is all about) and located the item for that file, which is a shortcut (AKA symbolic link).  I deleted the item in Recent Files and it has no impact whatsoever on the actual file itself where it was saved, which is precisely what I had expected.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Mike,

I can't answer that, at least not precisely, as I do not know of any way to disable Quick Access other than to toggle the display of same on or off.

If you don't have a recent files list showing up in things like Word, Excel, Paint, etc., I can't explain that.  If I even so much as bring up the context menu for any start menu item, I get a recents list associated with it.  But I have never disabled the display of Quick Access, either.

But the recents lists predate Quick Access by quite a long time.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike B.
 


Hi Brian,
 
To add to what you've said and please tell me if this is correct or not, I need to have Quick Access enabled / employed for the, " symbolic links", to be stored in the Recent Files folder along with being told how many in Word.  I've never used Quick Access so I believe this is why I don't have anything stored there.  Thanks much.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 08:46 AM, Mike B. wrote:
I don't know how to make copies of files to auto save to Recent Files
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Mike,

That's because you don't.  The recent files list is a Windows feature and Recent Files gets populated based on exactly which files you've been working with most recently.  As Sharon's message indicates, there can be quite a few because you can set the length of the "recent files list" available in programs such as MS-Word, etc.  

But you don't directly manage Recent Files, Windows does, and I'll bet my bottom dollar that no actual file ever gets stored there, just symbolic links to files.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 08:46 AM, Mike B. wrote:
I don't know how to make copies of files to auto save to Recent Files
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Mike,

That's because you don't.  The recent files list is a Windows feature and Recent Files gets populated based on exactly which files you've been working with most recently.  As Sharon's message indicates, there can be quite a few because you can set the length of the "recent files list" available in programs such as MS-Word, etc.  

But you don't directly manage Recent Files, Windows does, and I'll bet my bottom dollar that no actual file ever gets stored there, just symbolic links to files.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 07:57 AM, Sharon S wrote:
One question though. Am I able to delete files out of this folder without effecting the original file? I ask because I have 149 items in that folder.
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If memory serves, what is in the Recent Files folder is not the actual file itself (as that is resident in whatever folder you happened to create it in) but a collection of symbolic links, which are entries that "point to" the file itself to put it most simply.

It's easy to test out whether this is the case, and whether deleting the symbolic link has any effect whatsoever on the actual file itself.  Create a new file using Notepad, or the program of your choice, that just contains a couple of bits of junk, like abc.  Save it to any location of your choosing.  Immediately afterward, open the Recent Files folder and an entry for that file should be present there; delete it.  Navigate back to where you saved the actual file and see if it's still present (and I believe it will be).  If it is, then you can safely delete whatever entries you wish from the Recent Files folder.

Since many cleanup utilities nuke Recent Files I have to presume you will be able to do so yourself should you so choose.  But the above lets you test out the actual consequence of doing so.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Sorry, not sure how to fix that then.

 

Russell

I did that and both of those are checked and I still got what I said

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...



On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:



Hi Mike,

 

Try to go to the status bar by pressing F6, and once there press either the applications key or Shift F10, and from the menu that pops up, make sure “Items in view” and “Unread items in view” are checked.

 

HTH,

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

Hi guys:

 

I tried to follow the instructions from the links mr. brian provided;

Below is what jaws says to me when I press insert numpad 3;

 

Connectivity to your server. Connected
Zoom 10%

 

I even restarted outlook;

And still same message;

Also maximized the window and still same;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 04:42 PM, Bill White wrote:

Richard. Afik wasn't asking for the addresses to post to and subscribe to the JAWS for Windows list. He was asking Brian for the post and subscription addresses for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

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Indeed.  But what Richard offered was the direct link to the home page of the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group on Groups.io.  Every group's home page has a section, Group Email Addresses, where the subscription, unsubscription, posting, group owner, and help message addresses are listed.  Every Groups.io member should be able to go to one of these pages, when offered, and snag the email address or addresses for that group that they need or want at the moment.

I keep hoping that Groups.io members who do interact primarily or exclusively by e-mail will still use the resources that Groups.io gives them via its own webpages when it comes to things like this.  They have a search facility for all their public groups as well, and that can come in really handy at times, provided you don't get overly specific with the search criteria.  It's one of the few places where I start with the minimum number of search terms, and then add if needed to narrow things down, rather than using several at the outset.

I'll also mention again that Groups.io gives email users all sorts of options as far as what shows up in their inboxes that are not available on other mailing list services.  Have a read through, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx), if you're interested in knowing about them.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

Mike B.
 


Hi Sharon,
 
I can't answer your question because I don't know how to make copies of files to auto save to Recent Files, but would like to find out.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon S
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

Hi Mike, thanks for this way because I couldn’t find the folder the other way.

 

One question though. Am I able to delete files out of this folder without effecting the original file? I ask because I have 149 items in that folder.

 

Thanks for your help.

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, 20 July 2021 3:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Hi David,

 

The Recents folder wasn't showing so I had to unhide it to access it, but below is another way of getting the shortcut on the desktop.  One more question, where is the setting for saving copies of files to the Recent folder?

 

1. From the desktop make sure nothing is selected and open the context menu with your applications key or Shift + F10.


2. From the Context Menu, navigate to, New, and press enter.


3. Select Shortcut and press enter.

 

4. In the edit field, type or copy / paste the location of the item below,

 

%AppData%\Microsoft\Windows\Recent\


5. Tab to, Next, and press the spacebar.


6. Name the shortcut Recent Items or a different name if desired.  Recent Items is there by default if you want to leave it this way.


7. Tab to, Finish, and press the spacebar.  You should now have a desktop icon called, Recent Items, or whatever you named it.

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:28 AM

Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Many ways to skin a cat.

One of the immediate customisations I make to any Windows machine I install is to put  a shortcut to the Recent folder on my Desktop.

The folder path for the Recent Folder  on Windows 10 is.

C:\Users/your user name \Recent

You need to look for your own user name in the Users directory.

Bring up the context  menu on the recent folder and press n for send to and finally from the send to sub menu select Desktop create shortcut.

The Recent folder shortcut will open a folder containing shortcuts to all the documents you have opened/saved so makes finding lost documents easy.

The other thing I do is sort this by date modified so that the most recent documents are at the top of the list which makes finding them easy as well.

To do this open  the Recent folder.

Make sure your screenreader announces not selected. If it says selected control space to make sure it says not selected.

Now press application key or shift F10 to bring up the context menu again and now find sort and tin the sub menu select date modified.

It takes about 2 or 3 minutes to setup   this folder but this simple customisation has helped me countless times over the years finding lost files saved in strange places.

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 19 July 2021 16:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to locate a missing file

 

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file. So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened since the latest update of Microsoft.

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: How to locate a missing file

Sharon S
 

Hi Mike, thanks for this way because I couldn’t find the folder the other way.

 

One question though. Am I able to delete files out of this folder without effecting the original file? I ask because I have 149 items in that folder.

 

Thanks for your help.

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, 20 July 2021 3:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Hi David,

 

The Recents folder wasn't showing so I had to unhide it to access it, but below is another way of getting the shortcut on the desktop.  One more question, where is the setting for saving copies of files to the Recent folder?

 

1. From the desktop make sure nothing is selected and open the context menu with your applications key or Shift + F10.


2. From the Context Menu, navigate to, New, and press enter.


3. Select Shortcut and press enter.

 

4. In the edit field, type or copy / paste the location of the item below,

 

%AppData%\Microsoft\Windows\Recent\


5. Tab to, Next, and press the spacebar.


6. Name the shortcut Recent Items or a different name if desired.  Recent Items is there by default if you want to leave it this way.


7. Tab to, Finish, and press the spacebar.  You should now have a desktop icon called, Recent Items, or whatever you named it.

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 9:28 AM

Subject: Re: How to locate a missing file

 

Many ways to skin a cat.

One of the immediate customisations I make to any Windows machine I install is to put  a shortcut to the Recent folder on my Desktop.

The folder path for the Recent Folder  on Windows 10 is.

C:\Users/your user name \Recent

You need to look for your own user name in the Users directory.

Bring up the context  menu on the recent folder and press n for send to and finally from the send to sub menu select Desktop create shortcut.

The Recent folder shortcut will open a folder containing shortcuts to all the documents you have opened/saved so makes finding lost documents easy.

The other thing I do is sort this by date modified so that the most recent documents are at the top of the list which makes finding them easy as well.

To do this open  the Recent folder.

Make sure your screenreader announces not selected. If it says selected control space to make sure it says not selected.

Now press application key or shift F10 to bring up the context menu again and now find sort and tin the sub menu select date modified.

It takes about 2 or 3 minutes to setup   this folder but this simple customisation has helped me countless times over the years finding lost files saved in strange places.

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: 19 July 2021 16:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How to locate a missing file

 

I wrote something in WORD PAD, and when I went to open it again it was not there. I wrote the information in a new WORD PAD file and when I tried to save it, I received the message that I already had that file. So, how do I find it? It’s not in “file explorer.” This has all happened since the latest update of Microsoft.

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheerfully,

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Web elements being read on one line

Dave Durber
 


Bill:
 
In addition, Making the change in the Default settings file is more than likely not such a good idea. This is because if there are settings files for a particular software package, the settings in those settings files, will take priority over the settings in the Default settings file. Therefore, it is probably better to turn off the Smart Navigation function in the settings file for each of the browsers you use, to see if the change solves the problem. Only if there is not a settings file for a particulare software package, will the setting in the Default Settings file be used.
 
HTH
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

Hi, Joe. Something you may or may not know: Turning off Smart Navigation in the Setup Wizard, or even in JAWS Settings may not turn off Smart Navigation in the particular browser you are using. For best results, Open the browser, then go to Settings Center in JAWS, and check that Smart Navigation is actually turned off in the configuration file for the browser you are using. Then Close JAWS Settings Center, and save the configuration file for your browser.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 6:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Ed,

 

I had already double checked both settings, and confirmed that it was off in both.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Joe,

Silly question probably, but have you checked it's turned off in JAWS 2020 as well as JAWS 2021?

You’ll need to change the setting independently in each version of JAWS, assuming of course that you don’t migrate your settings from one version to another.

Cheers,

Ed

On 19 July 2021 13:01:37 "Joe DiNero" <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Hi Ed,

 

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately it is already turned off. Also a clarification, I mentioned 2021, and it is not happening in that version, just 2020.   

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 6:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Joe,

You need to turn off smart navigation mode.

Go into Settings Center with JAWS key+6.

Press shift+control+d to load the default settings.

In the search box, type "smart" and press tab to get to the search results.

Locate smart navigation mode and turn it off by pressing space.

Ok your way out of the dialog.

Cheers,

Ed

On 19 July 2021 11:24:03 "Joe DiNero" <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have recently started to encounter multiple situations, where I have multiple web elements being read by JAWS on one line, when I am navigating a site. I know this can be an issue in NVDA if you do not uncheck the check box for “Use Screen Layout”, as NVDA will read the inline content on one line. Is there something I can change in JAWS or is this a site issue? I am running the latest Win 10 and this is happening with the most up to date versions of Firefox and Chrome with the most up to date version of JAWS 2021 and 2020.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: Web elements being read on one line

Bill White
 

Hi, Joe. Something you may or may not know: Turning off Smart Navigation in the Setup Wizard, or even in JAWS Settings may not turn off Smart Navigation in the particular browser you are using. For best results, Open the browser, then go to Settings Center in JAWS, and check that Smart Navigation is actually turned off in the configuration file for the browser you are using. Then Close JAWS Settings Center, and save the configuration file for your browser.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 6:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Ed,

 

I had already double checked both settings, and confirmed that it was off in both.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Joe,

Silly question probably, but have you checked it's turned off in JAWS 2020 as well as JAWS 2021?

You’ll need to change the setting independently in each version of JAWS, assuming of course that you don’t migrate your settings from one version to another.

Cheers,

Ed

On 19 July 2021 13:01:37 "Joe DiNero" <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Hi Ed,

 

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately it is already turned off. Also a clarification, I mentioned 2021, and it is not happening in that version, just 2020.   

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 6:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Joe,

You need to turn off smart navigation mode.

Go into Settings Center with JAWS key+6.

Press shift+control+d to load the default settings.

In the search box, type "smart" and press tab to get to the search results.

Locate smart navigation mode and turn it off by pressing space.

Ok your way out of the dialog.

Cheers,

Ed

On 19 July 2021 11:24:03 "Joe DiNero" <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have recently started to encounter multiple situations, where I have multiple web elements being read by JAWS on one line, when I am navigating a site. I know this can be an issue in NVDA if you do not uncheck the check box for “Use Screen Layout”, as NVDA will read the inline content on one line. Is there something I can change in JAWS or is this a site issue? I am running the latest Win 10 and this is happening with the most up to date versions of Firefox and Chrome with the most up to date version of JAWS 2021 and 2020.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

mike mcglashon
 

I did that and both of those are checked and I still got what I said

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:



Hi Mike,

 

Try to go to the status bar by pressing F6, and once there press either the applications key or Shift F10, and from the menu that pops up, make sure “Items in view” and “Unread items in view” are checked.

 

HTH,

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

Hi guys:

 

I tried to follow the instructions from the links mr. brian provided;

Below is what jaws says to me when I press insert numpad 3;

 

Connectivity to your server. Connected
Zoom 10%

 

I even restarted outlook;

And still same message;

Also maximized the window and still same;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 04:42 PM, Bill White wrote:

Richard. Afik wasn't asking for the addresses to post to and subscribe to the JAWS for Windows list. He was asking Brian for the post and subscription addresses for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

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Indeed.  But what Richard offered was the direct link to the home page of the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group on Groups.io.  Every group's home page has a section, Group Email Addresses, where the subscription, unsubscription, posting, group owner, and help message addresses are listed.  Every Groups.io member should be able to go to one of these pages, when offered, and snag the email address or addresses for that group that they need or want at the moment.

I keep hoping that Groups.io members who do interact primarily or exclusively by e-mail will still use the resources that Groups.io gives them via its own webpages when it comes to things like this.  They have a search facility for all their public groups as well, and that can come in really handy at times, provided you don't get overly specific with the search criteria.  It's one of the few places where I start with the minimum number of search terms, and then add if needed to narrow things down, rather than using several at the outset.

I'll also mention again that Groups.io gives email users all sorts of options as far as what shows up in their inboxes that are not available on other mailing list services.  Have a read through, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx), if you're interested in knowing about them.
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It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Web elements being read on one line

Joe DiNero
 

Because I was testing the accessibility of the site, so I use multiple passes with a couple of versions of JAWS to cover 4.1 of WCAG.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Sorry for asking this as you may have some good reason, but why still use Jaws 2020 especially if the issue is not present in Jaws 2021?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 5:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Ed,

 

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately it is already turned off. Also a clarification, I mentioned 2021, and it is not happening in that version, just 2020.   

 

Joe

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 6:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Web elements being read on one line

 

Hi Joe,

You need to turn off smart navigation mode.

Go into Settings Center with JAWS key+6.

Press shift+control+d to load the default settings.

In the search box, type "smart" and press tab to get to the search results.

Locate smart navigation mode and turn it off by pressing space.

Ok your way out of the dialog.

Cheers,

Ed

On 19 July 2021 11:24:03 "Joe DiNero" <joedinero68@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I have recently started to encounter multiple situations, where I have multiple web elements being read by JAWS on one line, when I am navigating a site. I know this can be an issue in NVDA if you do not uncheck the check box for “Use Screen Layout”, as NVDA will read the inline content on one line. Is there something I can change in JAWS or is this a site issue? I am running the latest Win 10 and this is happening with the most up to date versions of Firefox and Chrome with the most up to date version of JAWS 2021 and 2020.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe


moderated polaris

meow meow
 

hi
does anyone dnow or use polaris to scan color to tell me what color?
that I got email from  HISS braille  sence saying En Vision would work
did anyone try it?
thanks
Rosie
 
 
 


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Mike,

 

Try to go to the status bar by pressing F6, and once there press either the applications key or Shift F10, and from the menu that pops up, make sure “Items in view” and “Unread items in view” are checked.

 

HTH,

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

Hi guys:

 

I tried to follow the instructions from the links mr. brian provided;

Below is what jaws says to me when I press insert numpad 3;

 

Connectivity to your server. Connected
Zoom 10%

 

I even restarted outlook;

And still same message;

Also maximized the window and still same;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 04:42 PM, Bill White wrote:

Richard. Afik wasn't asking for the addresses to post to and subscribe to the JAWS for Windows list. He was asking Brian for the post and subscription addresses for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

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Indeed.  But what Richard offered was the direct link to the home page of the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group on Groups.io.  Every group's home page has a section, Group Email Addresses, where the subscription, unsubscription, posting, group owner, and help message addresses are listed.  Every Groups.io member should be able to go to one of these pages, when offered, and snag the email address or addresses for that group that they need or want at the moment.

I keep hoping that Groups.io members who do interact primarily or exclusively by e-mail will still use the resources that Groups.io gives them via its own webpages when it comes to things like this.  They have a search facility for all their public groups as well, and that can come in really handy at times, provided you don't get overly specific with the search criteria.  It's one of the few places where I start with the minimum number of search terms, and then add if needed to narrow things down, rather than using several at the outset.

I'll also mention again that Groups.io gives email users all sorts of options as far as what shows up in their inboxes that are not available on other mailing list services.  Have a read through, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io (docx), if you're interested in knowing about them.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

mike mcglashon
 

Hi guys:

 

I tried to follow the instructions from the links mr. brian provided;

Below is what jaws says to me when I press insert numpad 3;

 

Connectivity to your server. Connected
Zoom 10%

 

I even restarted outlook;

And still same message;

Also maximized the window and still same;

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 04:42 PM, Bill White wrote:

Richard. Afik wasn't asking for the addresses to post to and subscribe to the JAWS for Windows list. He was asking Brian for the post and subscription addresses for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

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Indeed.  But what Richard offered was the direct link to the home page of the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group on Groups.io.  Every group's home page has a section, Group Email Addresses, where the subscription, unsubscription, posting, group owner, and help message addresses are listed.  Every Groups.io member should be able to go to one of these pages, when offered, and snag the email address or addresses for that group that they need or want at the moment.

I keep hoping that Groups.io members who do interact primarily or exclusively by e-mail will still use the resources that Groups.io gives them via its own webpages when it comes to things like this.  They have a search facility for all their public groups as well, and that can come in really handy at times, provided you don't get overly specific with the search criteria.  It's one of the few places where I start with the minimum number of search terms, and then add if needed to narrow things down, rather than using several at the outset.

I'll also mention again that Groups.io gives email users all sorts of options as far as what shows up in their inboxes that are not available on other mailing list services.  Have a read through, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
(docx), if you're interested in knowing about them.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Brian,

 

Yes, I’ve read many of your posts to the JAWS list over the years, and find them thoughtful and very helpful.

 

That is eerily strange that this topic would appear on multiple groups, but I’m sure glad it did! I may just subscribe to that Office group you mentioned, so thanks for that info as well.

 

Take care,

 

Russell

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

Russell,

You're quite welcome.  I'm the odd sighted person who haunts a number of blind technology groups due to the fact that one of the things I've been doing for years is private tutoring of those new to using screen readers as a freelancer for the Virginia Department for the Blind and Visually Impaired Technology Tutor Network.  It is amazing how often precisely the same questions happen to get asked at almost precisely the same time on lists where the questioners are not mutually both subscribed to both lists.  It's almost eerie, at times.

I also often post the information regarding groups I am making reference to, but sometimes omit them, and did in this case.  So, here it is now:

Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

Archive:  https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/topics

Subscribe: office-accessibility+subscribe@groups.io

Post: office-accessibility@groups.io

Unsubscribe: office-accessibility+unsubscribe@groups.io

Group Owner: office-accessibility+owner@groups.io

Help: office-accessibility+help@groups.io

 

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer


moderated Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

Bill White
 

Hi, Brian and Richard. You are right. I referred to the wrong message. It was Moti Azrad who gave the information for posting and subscribing to the JFW list rather than the information for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group. My error.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Outlook 2019 how to get number of messages

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 04:42 PM, Bill White wrote:

Richard. Afik wasn't asking for the addresses to post to and subscribe to the JAWS for Windows list. He was asking Brian for the post and subscription addresses for the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

-
Indeed.  But what Richard offered was the direct link to the home page of the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group on Groups.io.  Every group's home page has a section, Group Email Addresses, where the subscription, unsubscription, posting, group owner, and help message addresses are listed.  Every Groups.io member should be able to go to one of these pages, when offered, and snag the email address or addresses for that group that they need or want at the moment.

I keep hoping that Groups.io members who do interact primarily or exclusively by e-mail will still use the resources that Groups.io gives them via its own webpages when it comes to things like this.  They have a search facility for all their public groups as well, and that can come in really handy at times, provided you don't get overly specific with the search criteria.  It's one of the few places where I start with the minimum number of search terms, and then add if needed to narrow things down, rather than using several at the outset.

I'll also mention again that Groups.io gives email users all sorts of options as far as what shows up in their inboxes that are not available on other mailing list services.  Have a read through, Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
(docx), if you're interested in knowing about them.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

It is the function of creative men to perceive the relations between thoughts, or things, or forms of expression that may seem utterly different, and to be able to combine them into some new forms--the power to connect the seemingly unconnected.

    ~ William Plomer

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